Sony a7C II: Who Is This For?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Today we take a look at Sony's newest camera the A7C Mark II and see where it fits in the large market of full-frame mirrorless cameras.
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the first minute of this video was so good that I was looking for the skip button 😂
You are not alone
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Thought it was an ad 😅
This was a really comprehensive and helpful review but I just want to take a second and say that your talent as a videographer and photographer is out of this world!
The intro looks so amazing. I would like to see a video about the lighting for something like that and for the color grading.
I film college sports. I do photo media 2 days a week and game video 3 days a week. So it’s been perfect for me, aside from the lack of 4k 120.
Wow, what an unbelievable video, how do you keep putting out such amazing content its genuinely unbelievable
Great review! It's so refreshing to watch something that's clean and straight to the point. Thanks!
Those first minutes look amazing!
If possible I would like to see videos of
The Sony A74 is the one for me alongside the Sony A7C2
Sony really just wanted to keep making money in the halfway point between the a7 iv and an a7v. Wish they figured out how to remove the 60fps 1.5 crop. I do wish i could swap my fx30 for this as my b camera though.
The transition at 6:06 yaks'!!!
Hi Brandon! What camera has your favorite look then? Interested in your take on Sony feeling 'too perfect'
Great review Brandon!
3:08 - OMG the face stretching and compressing due to the terrible sensor scan rate
Do u think the efcs is a huge problem?
Much camera, such wow.
kinda sounds like the audio for this whole video has some weird compression in it, or is that just me?
@12:07 Why would someone want to be a bit more conspicuous when shooting in public. It is often the opposite right?
Was just about to comment this exact thing, I guess he doesn't know it should be inconspicuous.
Few things separate this from straight outta Nike... And I do not have the film knowledge to pretend I know what those things may be...
How does the EFS affect the bokeh?
how do u shoot in that low light condition with no noise in your footage..i shoot at night using zve1 using auto S.. but the iso bump make my footage so rubbish..
Instead of keypad for AF adjustment, Sony wants you to use the touch screen?😅
A7Cii is pretty much A7iv with the EVF chopped off. So it's obviously for those people who are willing to trade a usable EVF for a slightly less weight.
No
@@jishnoo yes, it is 😁
at the end of your video y0ou said "profesional looking" what is even better looking for video? i just bought the a7iv but have it in the box coz im consdiering swappping for the a7c ii (if video specs are litterally the same + i get the touch controlls and stuf)
This or your fujifilm?
The a7cII is an entry level body with 2 year old specs and with a premium price tag.
😂😂 funniest thing I've read today..thanks that clueless bit of drivel 🤣
@@therealdeal4492 tell me you fell for the sony marketing without telling me you fell for the sony marketing lol
Too expensive to justify why not grab a R8 with small prime instead.
Over priced, no CF express, only one SD card slot and a minis HDMI port what a joke
You still make videos? I thought you just edit for TH-camrs who gave you more money than Linus now
Hey , loving the video so far, if you ever need help with animations and Channel graphics i'd love to colaborate :)
At this point camera manufactures should just ditch that micro hdmi, and offer a second usb 3.1 for video.
Atleast we know usbc aint gonna break that easy.
I love my A7C when it came out and I use it more than my A7R IV then and more than my A7R V now. The small size is perfect for my small hand, fits my small camera bag and travel light in my small carry on. So, this camera is for me. The only thing I’m disappointed is no screen like A7R V.
I have had one for a few months now-first time getting into full frame Sony, since what brought me over (from FX Nikon bodies for years) was the APS-C lineup, and how Sony seems to be the only one of the big three who's kept it moving forward.
But I still can't view the RAW photos from it in my Apple Photos library! I use PS/Lightroom for some things, but like to keep my entire archive in Photos (which I have backed up on two local storage devices, plus the iCloud Photos backup). It is painful because the stills this camera puts out (and the quality of the AF) is on another level compared to the a6600s I've been using.
I had gotten close to moving over to a Nikon Zf for fun shooting... but the 7C II is nearly as good at nailing the colors and 'feel' I got with my last Nikon body, plus the dynamic range going back to FF is huge for me.
It made me appreciate stills again, though I still whip out my ancient D700 when I really want to get into stills.
The price is too high. A6700 seems like a way better value.
They have to make it higher than the a6700 because that’s crop sensor, who would buy the a6700 if you could buy FF for the same money.
I don't understand why you talk so much about camera size and footprint when the lens you show is much much bigger than the camera itself.
Awesome video Brandon! I completely agree with who this camera is for. Love the beginning shots! 😊
Freakin awesome cinematography my dude 🤌
although I could see why, Sony being the giant that it is, the A7IV would be considered to be the best hybrid on the market, I think that there is a very firece competition in that price/size bracket and that this statement is not really true in 2023 (might have been when it was released, but it's been a while...). There is other cameras that can do better (imho)
First, the R6 mk II, which is the natural competitor to the A7IV. It's quite simple, every spec in that camera (save for resolution) is better in the Canon than it is in the Sony... for the same price of 2.5k USD.
Second is the Lumix S5II which, if it doesn't have the same super fast 24MP sensor as the Canon (it relies on an older 24MP sensor that is just as slow as the A7IV's sensor), it achieves to be significantly better for video work, having good autofocus, active cooling (without making the camera larger which is nice) and better video modes like 6K open gate video, better video assist tools and interface... and a significantly lower price of 2k USD, without compromising the stills either (lossless compressed RAW is 7fps on both cameras, you have to go to lossy compressed or JPEG to do 10 fps on the A7IV while if the S5II can't get a faster mechanical shutter, it can shoot 30fps electronic shutter. A wash in my opinion)
And if you could argue that the Sony had better lens selection than the Canon (though the argument of EF glass exists), the Lumix has access to a plethora of video optimized Panasonic glass as well as photography optimized Sigma and Leica glass. Again, this is a wash to me.
Honestly, being lighter and smaller, the A7CII makes a more compelling product compared to the A7IV, considering the competition it's facing the moment the camera body starts to get bigger.
And that's not even comparing with APS-C/MFT cameras on the market that sit in a similar price range like the X-H2S, X-H2, GH6 or OM-1
I'd really love if camera reviewers stopped comparing cameras to other cameras from the same brands, as ultimately that just serves one brand and that does not help one understand the camera market further, only one side of it.
Thoughtful comment. But as a Lumix shooter, I still think we lag behind when it comes to lens selection
Say the one joke : Canon have best lens choice in the world 🙃
Your argument, which is good, will be rendered moot if and when Sony comes out with the A75. If the A74 is that popular, the next vastly improved model will blow people away. All the goodies of the A74 with the spirit, and chips, of the A7R5 will elevate this camera into the galaxy center, way beyond the stratosphere. Sony did it with the a6700, flying past the already excellent a6600.
@@bondgabebond4907 I don't know where you're going with that A6700 nonsense.
The A6700 is a good camera, but I would argue that the Canon R7 is a more pro-ready package with overall better specs (save for 4K120), and the Fujifilm X-S20 is basically the same thing, just cheaper with very few differences. The A6600 on the other hand, was probably the worst value for a crop sensor camera. Expensive (almost as expensive as a Fuji X-T4), with IBIS that does not work as well as the competitors, and a much slower sensor, burst rate, ergonomic compromises (tiny viewfinder and no front dial), limited to 1x UHS 1 card slot when the competition was already pushing dual UHS 2 cards in a similar price bracket, not mentionning the limitation to 10fps shooting when other cameras were pushing 30. The A6600 was decent. Nowhere near "excellent". Only thing that was, was the autofocus, which most brands have caught up to now.
Sony has been playing a game of catch-up ever since the R6 was released. A7IV was released to compete with that, only for the R6II to drop the following year, being better in every way.
I think you might have a case of Sony fanboyism and lack of objectiveness.
@@DGCNYO nah they don't. Only an fanboy would get past the super anti-consumer practise of banning 3rd party glass on the RF mount.
That being said, EF glass can work well, until Canon decides to reduce the amount of moronic decisions in the coming year.
Best and most unbiased review on this camera. Thanks man.
This was an excellent video Brandon, I’m not a camera guy but this had me hooked to the end. The opening scene had me convinced it was an ad 😂. This was MKBHD levels of quality. Keep it up 👊🏼
This may be the best done review of this camera I’ve seen. And I have watched quite a few. I like that you spent a good portion of it on stills. I currently use an A7SII (for its lowlight capability) and an A7C. I am attracted to this new version because of the improved autofocus. I shoot bands in badly lit bars, and find the face-detection on the A7C struggles in weird lighting. Thanks again for this excellent video.
For people with money.
Sony’s line up did become confusing.
I shoot as a hobby for 4 years with my a6300 and wanted to upgrade so i can earn some buck on the side (and i struggled with Low light every now and then). But now there is this camera and a7 iv. This camera seems to be the same and then some compared to A7iv. The only true difference is the size wich is a plus, and dual cards, which I never had. All videos are telling me this is the reason not to use it as a pro camera.. but only because of the cards??
what did you decide? i basically have the same conclusion and bought the now two years old a7iv, (alos joystick)
Oh man, TH-cam defaulting to 720p is brutal. The background in the opening seconds looks like 256 color, lol. 4k is much nicer but you can still see the grey banding.
This is for recording chicks who can barely do pushups
Regarding moving the focus point, I have my A7C set up to allow me to use the screen as a touchpad when I'm using the EVF. I put the A7C up to my face, and with my thumb sliding around the screen I can use it like a joystick. Works pretty well, but I find myself doing the old "focus and recompose" more often than not.
Thank you for the review!
Came to the comment to ask this. Is it no longer a feature in this one?
As far as I know, you can use the touchscreen all recent Sony camera to set the focus point when it's up to your face.
I use either this method for selecting AF or more often as my screen is flipped inwards I use the central point only and focus tracking to recompose. Most other reviews have mentioned this recompose option. You don't miss the shot you want if you're anticipating the action in front of you either.
Great information. Thanks.
my biggest purchase intent is the S&Q feature:
Will the finished slow motion file be saved in 4k?
In short, do I have the finished slow motion file 4k60p on my memory card?
without having to slow down in post-processing
One of the best gym videos I have seen so far 🎉
Great video! Word?
A7cii does not support type A memory cards. But the All-i bit rate 600mb.. V90 card only 300 mbps. which card is best for A7cii ? I am little bit confused about a7iv or a7cii. Basically, I am a wedding photographer. I need both photography and cinematography. And want to shoot slog 3 600mbps bit rate.
can you view the entire evf with glasses on??
Your mileage may vary but I didn't have any issues with my glasses.
Please make a video on sony fx30 and lens choice with it 📷 love from 🇮🇳
It's my aim to became a film maker so i learning and researching and doing practical with my old nikon d3500 with prime lens of 50mm 1.8g prime len. If you could make videos on cinematography and film making please do it will help a lot of people like me.❣️🌎📷
If I get A7RV as my first camera with 70-200mm F4 macro G ii and just use standard Yellow iPhone 15 to shoot closer things with its 13mm, 26mm and 52mm, is it good setup if I'm just hobbyist with good understanding of photography and compositions who want to enjoy shooting and use for personal products shots too? I choose Sony over other brands because they have the lens with unique feature I want like super tele with macro ability that I mentioned, power zoom lens and standard zoom that start from ultra wide 20mm and I love Sony as a brand too. I choose this over A7CII/R because of its good EVF and 4 ways tilt screen and smaller body don't give benefit with big lens other than weight saving and people still notice you have a camera, A7RV is like just as small but with a big EVF attached, the silver top of A7C is nice looking tho. Should I get another lens right away, I have the 16-35mm F4 PZ G in mind, or I should get something faster and prime that still light weight on gimbal? I don't really care for bokeh, that tele will able to do it too if I want to, I like my photos and videos to have story and creativity and not blur out the contexts.
Also, have you wonder why put so many effort just to take photos and videos and not just use phone camera to record here and there if it's not your primary work and also your content not all will get pass down and value later?
And what camera setup you bring in everyday life and travel, some people use less bulky and performance camera for their own life but use fancy gears for clients and travel, why, isn't everyday life is most parts of our life and important too?
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Sony have so many a7 cameras now... and a7CR on top of everything. It's confusing
Color grading on point
So basically the camera is for no one. A professional can’t use it without 2 SD card slots. An entry level buyer isn’t going to spend $2200-$3000 for a camera body that r the competition sells for $1500.
Everyone says the same things about this camera but also misses the same things .Do they all use the same script. I do enjoy the criticism of the micro HDMI over and over again.
Do you like the a7c2 or a6700/zve1 for 1 hour podcast videos as well as being used for travel/sports?
I’m sold, thank you 🙏🏽
I'm an amateur, but shoot with two A7R5 cameras. Frankly the A7CR is enough camera for me. But, I do like having a larger grip and a better evf. I shot for years with just one card slot and to me it's not an issue. Although I do like having one card slot for jpgs and the other slot for raw files. But, I plan to use the A7CR as a travel camera for now.
Great review! Was neat to see the cinematic footage.
For the focus point issue you had, that is resolved by using real time af tracking with the point focus. This allows you to always keep the focusing square in the center. You half press on your subject and reframe, the real time af will follow your subject to where you want them to be in the frame.
Switched to the A7C after trying the X100V. My walk around setup is with the APSC pancake 20MM, and I love that I can fit it in a tiny belt bag.
Being able to use the bigger FF glass is nice, but I've actually liked my daily setup so much that I rarely swap it out. I even sold off my previous main camera the X-T4 and haven't looked back.
I’ve been doing that with my sigma fp and a Leica tl2 with the 18mm tl pancake lens! L mount alliance stops me from selling either 😂
i had X100F and now an A7C but i really miss fuji, with fuji i went everywhere with the camera but with sony not so much I am afraid that I will break it, I only use it for some professional shootings.
Great workout video !!!
So funny I didn't know about the channel at all and I watch that first minute and was like hmm that style reminds me of brandon from ltt. Then your face shows up!
Thank you so much Barndon for the helpful and informative review! God bless and good luck!
Great video and very informative! Love this camera. Side note anyone ever tell you with your glasses on you look like Wong from SVU?
The 2 reasons to buy this over the full size bodies is size and price, this seems to be priced against the A7V rather than the IV which doesn’t bode well for the price of that when it’s released.
Hey Brandon. Can you maybe do a review on the Pentax K-3 monochrome? The concept sounds amazing, but I'd really love for your opinion on it. Love your content :)
I really love the shooting with the LCD screen. The viewfinder was and is still NEVER a defining factor for me when i look for a camera. Great review btw
Brandon you and Gerald Undone should do a video shoot off. both of you can record your own footage and set max time for editing like 6 hours minus export. Would be epic!!!
Really nice video! Would be interesting to have your opinion on the 28-60mm kit lens🤔 I know that such a camera highly profits from better lenses as the one you used, but then it somewhat misses the point of compact/light. Was thinking about a camera compact/light enough to take it with me on trailruns/bike rides/.. So would be great to hear your opinion on that and eventual lens suggestions :)
Greetings from Switzerland
I generally think kit lenses aren't worth it unless you really want the range, they also can be a good tool for learning what focal lengths you like. If I started over, I'd probably pick-up a 35mm or 50mm, and just see what I end up preferring. Then build out my kit or save up for a zoom that will last longer than a kit lens.
Which camera will serve me well for wedding photoshoot and video
intro could have been better if she was actually sweating.
Where was all the street food shot?! I need to try some of those places!!!
What do you think about the ZV-E1?
Bro what’s your settings in camera
Great work brutha!
if they make a a7cs like the s-deries than i think they are losing they mind
is A7CII has dual base iso?
Makes me feel that All cameras are the same😞
I'm not sure I understand the complaint about moving the focus point with the joystick, im new to the A7c2, but you can always touch the screen to focus, and you can even change what touching the screen does on the camera. It can auto expose, continuous track, focus point, ect... I do wish the resolution on the view finder was better, a bit more similar to the a7rV. Great review!
Yes...this Camera that I also have is for the new breed of photography... the one that take pics with a phone and know how to use a smart phone...that goes over many of these reviewers heads really but you brought up an important point ..we "touch the screen"... see the old guard used buttons and dials and wheels... this is for the next gen social media photographer /Video content creator..which is just as legit as taking "wedding Pics" btw...and they make some pretty good money doing it...
New Gen...new breed..and Sony knows it..and is right there to profit off it ..
Btw its a great little camera ..that did what??...replaced my crappy smart phone pics and video.. oh and I have thr S24Ultra ...
The pics and video are really second to none..sure you can get the ubber high 61mp CR... but then thats a whole nother trade off as well...
Sometimes its funny to see reviews that just dont quite get the "whole picture" 😉
More great content! Please keep bringing us more of this great content!
really amazing video Brandon
have a nice day !
Oh I know the answer to this one. It’s for me.
WOW well done for sure! New subscriber - I have the a7Siii and the A7C as my B camera so you are bang on about who this camera is for!!
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I just sold my A7C to upgrade to the Mk ii newer model. Very happy as it is my B camera to my venerable a7Siii. Finally both my cameras are 10 Bit 422 so I can use S-Cinetone PP 11 which I love!!
Why did you get the black version? That's a crime. Everyone has to get that camera in silver.
I much prefer black as well. More modern, less retro…just saying - subjective
Love how in-depth this is! Lots of valuable insights, great job putting this together 👏
Love your reviews Brandon!! Looking forward to more
Yes, a person I trust when it comes to cameras!!
Great Review! Love the in depth thoughts and thorough review :D
During the squirrel and bee test did you have the AF subject set to animal and insect?
Yes I did, still didn't hold
s5IIx
Me too.😀
Great review, thank you.
Great video
the a7c ii sensor can't be closed like a7iv? and is there a weather seal like a7iv?
and the memory can use cf express?
Sensor can be closed. It's weather sealed. Only one SD card slot without the smart express dual compatibility.
@@edshotsdotcodotuk sorry my language isn't good and I don't understand it... so it's weather resistant and the senor can be closed, and what I want to clarify is whether it can use memory cf type A or B or below or just the maximum, sorry I'm still new
@@refan2021 no type A or B. Only standard SD.
How the f does a small channel like yours get these cameras for review ?
Man, everything is rigged.
This is not the Brandon Lee you're looking for. And not the Brandon Li you're looking for, either. 😂
Thanks for your great video! You gave me such a great advice and I really enjoyed it.