How to Make DIY IEMs That Sound Better Than Expensive IEMs in the market
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ค. 2023
- I started this project as an experimental project, but the results exceeded my expectations. I liked it so much that I decided to make it open source for anyone who is interested in making their own. If you want to hear every detail from 20 Hz to 20 kHz and experience the huge soundstage, then you might want to try this project.
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download the shell here
shell: skfb.ly/oJzVF
cap: skfb.ly/oJzVK
so question how do you decide what damper to use for your builds ? cause i am going to make myself some costum ones with UV resin and all the stuff.
@@n3ptuchan848 decision of which damper should be used is during the tuning process. Using different dampers might need slightly different tuning
love this (not that I'm remotely close of doing it)
glad you like it
yeah we like it and all but how does this help the average diy that want to build one for himself! a lot is not explained!
If I had this skill and equipment I would have a ton more IEM's than I already have. 🤣Nice job man, nothing like making things with your own hands. 😊
😆 thanks
Awesome project! Really cool how you open sourced it
Thank you. glad you like it
I see you have constructed a new iem. Your skills are complete. Indeed you are powerful, as the Emperor has foreseen.
I'm still learning.
I got the reference.
this is what real audiophile would do, appreciate it mate
Thank you 🙏
Wow thank you!! i'm new to the hobby and trying to make my own iem
this is insane great job!
thank you
@@kozh4013 Would you ever make these for people?
dope af well done
Thank you
Love this!
Thank you 👍
Beautiful!!
Thank you! 😊
Cool video, i really like how the larger resistors and capacitors look. How would you compare the E50DT with the sonion EST drivers for treble extension?
The E50DT can cover from 3k-20k and has excellent detail while the est only 7k up and gives much less detail, some people don't like est.
The E50DT raw frequency response only covers up to 18kHz but with good tuning, it can go beyond 20k
E50DT is a good choice for 2ways IEMs. In my project I used Knowles RDI to cover 1k and below and Sonion E50DT for 1k+.
what do you recommend for bass players ?
My friend, your video is impressive, thank you very much. What is the function of trancistors in your inears?
Glad you like it. I only used resistors and capacitors
Hi, thanks for the vid. I'm inspired.
I'd like to use Shure IEM housing but can't find the 3d model
Do you have any link or reference where I should look for them?
It would help me alot
(probably those who are interested in that type of IEM housing too)
thanks
I can't find any too. I'll try to make one when I have free time
@@kozh4013 This insignificant peasant will worship thee as a Diety 🙇🏽♂️🙌🏽🙇🏽♂️🙌🏽🙇🏽♂️🙌🏽
Ok man, I'm gonna give this is a shot. Thanks for sharing. What 3D printer did you use? I've been thinking about grabbing a resin one for a while. I'm brand new to IEMs. Just ordered a Hexa and a Simgot SM4. This looks like a fun little project. What kind of quality would you say you achieved with these?
Used one of the cheapest 3d printer. This project is not perfect; however, if you want to follow, I recommend using lower value damper and increase the low pass to lower the frequency at 200-1k. That will make it less muddy and improve details
I dont think i have the patience or fine motor skills to accomplish this. Great work though.
Thank you.
hey, i saw a couple of videos of yours, and you made few iem models, between them which one do you think sounds the best?
I use a 6BAs. It has flat frequency response, filter/damper less tuning for extremely micro detail but needs EQ to adjust the target curve.
Hello. why don't you use smd components? And can you tell me what each resistor and capacitor does for sound?
It's a fun project so I used those big components to make it cooler. Circuit and components value in the video
where i can buy the audio drivers ( the ones small components ) what are they called?
I bought mine from the Chinese website Taobao. You can also buy them from other sources depending on where you live. Those BAs drivers are expensive and need a bit of skill and knowledge to deal with them. If you're a beginner I recommend starting with dynamic drivers first
Literally diy hearing aids lol
Fuckin dope!
Wish you can use better 10uF capacitor. Space are quite limited though.
Yea. SMDs are better
Doesn't the cap and the sanding on the nozzle affect the tuning? Wouldn't it be better to sand the nozzle first, enclose it temporarily and then do the tuning? Maybe im overestimating the effect that has on the outcome. How much was the tuning rig?
That's interesting. For the tuning rig, it's just a cheap $100 set
@@kozh4013 that's kind of steep, with all the other parts you can get some pretty amazing pairs of headphones for that price. I wonder if building one out of a cheap mic and some 3d printed parts could work.
@@TheHabadababa This is a personal project made for the sake of making it, making it open-source itself was an after thought, it was never meant to be competitive on the market lmao
Can you tell me which uv glue you are using?plz.
I use ergo8500. It's quite strong
Where can i find those armature balance drivers? Exclenete video dude
I bought mine from stores on the Chinese website Taobao. Some websites such as digikey.com also sell them
hello sir. any chances on making it commercially (taking order)? i don't think i have all that skills and tools. may i know what it sound like compared to commercial products? sorry for noob question and not from audiophile perspective.
Currently I don't have the tools to make them commercial and also there's still things that need to be improved
@@kozh4013 it's ok sir. no harm done. just keep on perfecting it for greater good. i will keep on following your updates and hope it will hit the market near future. keep it coming and thank you for your quick reply sir. 👍👍👍
I have so many questions. How is the resolution on these, how is the soundstage, what is the tonality and technicality like? And how do these compare to any popular iems that you have used?
😂 you clearly know Crinacle
Judging by the frequency response graph, it's an average Chi-fi no deep technical tuning FR. But with high-end (assuming 100% performance) drivers, you can EQ this bad boy to galaxies and beyond and be happy with it.
@@rigel8755 Might as well buy a good planar if you ask me
You're right, the tuning needs to be improved, especially lower the mid-bass
@@kozh4013 Now, I don't know how raw-tuning an IEM works, without a software/equalizer. But I bet it must be expensive. Maybe you have an idea on this?
How do you order the drivers? Can you buy small scale?
I Bought them on Taobao, yes you can buy any quantity
May I know what tools you use, such as infrared soldering
I use regular cheap tools, usually the cheapest ones can be found on online retailers. I also use some DIY tools such as UV lamp and miscellaneous tools
@@kozh4013 name it sir, do you have link
Hey! Great videos!!!! How can I get in touch with you for designing shells for an IEM project I’m working on? Thanks
Glad you like it
i followed since i watched ur video making the Iems that are better than some 1000 dollars iems, is there any way to buy one of this from u and pay delivery as well? like paypal or something
These are hobby experimental projects. The tools and quality of materials I used are not as good commercially available products. I'd love to make them for other people than me. But I'm afraid can do that for now.
wow, do you think you can replicate current iems like the raptgo hook x?
If iems that use custom or in-house drivers. It's hard to copy.
Great project! Can you give me the link to where you bought those components.
I bought them on the Chinese website Taobao. If you want the store link DM me on discord: .kozh
@@kozh4013Hey, I am also making in ear monitors diy, but I'm opting for an open back design, where do you get the drivers?
@@jdoe8162 m.tb.cn/h.5l1Z0gk
That's the Taobao store that I bought mine
Is this project possible without being in the possession of a 3d printer? Thanks
Using shells that made from molds and sound tubes might work as well
What brand of 3 d printer did you use?
I use Voxelab 3d uv printer. The cheapest model
Where do i buy drivers, can you send some links?
I bought on this store
m.tb.cn/h.5MGvItvVKrw3xBH
Does Knowles make the best drivers?
Knowles and Sonion BAs are good and commonly found in online retailers
what's the total costs of the parts (without the equipment)?
It depends on where you buy those components. Cheapest would be around $60
Where do you buy these parts?
you can buy from Taobao, aliexpress, digikey or mouser.com
Muddy bass and sibilance for days of work with tool I neither own nor have the knowledge needed
I'd rather use whatever lays around
I dont care, you have to build me a pair of those. Dont care how much
I'm glad you're interested. I've already improved the tuning of this project to make them sound cleaner. but right now, I don't really have the tools or good enough materials to make them suitable for general use. I'm afraid I won't be able to make them for you at the moment
How much would you sell a pair for?
It would cost less than $100. Unfortunately, I don't have the tools to make good quality products for sale yet
Hey, im a newbie IEM user, i just wanna know what is the biggest different between cheap and expensive IEM's, just in case i want to upgrade my IEM
sorry for my bad English, its my 2nd lenguage
I'd compare them like this: Basic IEMs are like old 2MP phone cameras - they can get the job done, but you miss the details. Good IEMs are like high-res DSLRs. Listen with them, you hear every detail clearly, wide soundstage and other technical abilities
Yea these tools are in every house now.. good job though..
thanks
Can I buy a pair? I am not that talented.
I'm glad you're interested, but at the moment I still don't have the tools to make it viable for commercial use. I might do in the future when I have all the tools needed
@kozh4013 I think they look amazing and I would love to own a pair whenever you decide to, lmk please 🙏
@@FreshJ1v3 sure, I'll definitely let you know
I appreciate all your efforts and everything. However, those super loud songs you play are too much. Please keep that in mind for the future.
Thanks for your feedback
Hello here from Germany to you,
Could you please make one of those for me. Of course i will pay for it.
My Beste regards , Monic G.
Are you chinese and has already worked on a IEM factory by any chance lol?
I'm not. And my job is not audio related one.
@@kozh4013 wow very impressive then. Amazing job.
@@sertralina100mg thank you
"So I have to say that I really like your work, but... Why not go to an audiologist and have ear impressions taken? You don't need a 3D printer, and you can get real professional IEMs that usually cost hundreds of euros.
Agree with you but to learn skills was my purpose here. That's why I chose to learn 3D software and use a 3D printer because might I want to use these skills in other areas in the future.
I don’t believe shit iem TH-camrs say anymore I’ve tried the top 3 reviewed items for gaming and positioning/ footsteps were atrocious
I was one of the victims
My toxic personality is thinking I can easily do it, smh. Great work btw
check mate ChiFi wow great creation