I also put a front traction on my small wave board Never had it before, but wanted to try it out as I got tired of melted wax bukkake tears on it when i pull the board out of the back of the ute. Really quite enjoying it tbh
Waxfoot hahaha! It’s ok, but just make sure you’re wearing a wettie or shirt when surfing. It’ll do things to your bare chest that you never thought were possible... 😂
The Surfboard Guide yea, at 40 years old, my chest hair still hasn’t kicked in yet... maybe when i grow up... so there’s little padding between my chest and the pad. Learned the hard way
Hi Thanks for the review :) I have the HS2 generation fins in size medium as this fits my weight (165lbs) and am surfing them as a thruster set up. I would like to try my board as a quad, and would like to use the HS generation 4.20 quad rear fins to do so, but they only come in large. Would the large quad rears work with my two medium HS2 fins?
Hi Craig. I have been longboarding a 9’1” for a long time. I am looking for a transition into a small board. I am 1.70 meters tall and weight 82 kgs and I am about to get a 6’6” 43 L volume Loot for a smooth transition (kind of cruiser mode). I heva seen the board and has interesting specs for smooth transition. What do you think?
Hi Craig, keen to get your thoughts on what you think is the best board for Sydney beachies for an intermediate surfer? I was thinking of getting an Ultra Joe until I saw this review. I’ve got a Sampler, which is great for waves with a bit of push. Cheers
Aussie Snowboarder hey! So I’m guessing you’re after something that’ll sit below the Sampler and for small/average waves? This Loot here is good, super versatile and lots of fun to surf. Also the Psycho Nitro from JS is another good board for those waves. Probably look at things that offer a quad setup, or are good with a twin + stabiliser.
Aussie Snowboarder if you want something similar to the Sampler, try the Hot Knife by Chilli. Similar outline and surfs very similarly, but a different rocker that probably works across more of a variety of conditions.
Hey mate. Would be cool if you did a review using the new jordy futures fin. Versus the Am2 and maybe the john john ? I've always felt like honeycomb construction is too soft for my style , I love the am2 techflex. Its my go to fin or maybe the am2 side fins with a john john medium tech at the back. I haven't tried the am2 honeycomb. Maybe its a bit stiffer than other honeycombs I've tried. 🤔. Not sure of the complete construction of the new jordy because its painted out. Anyway, great vids ! Cheers Mark
Thanks mate - we actually check out the Jordy and the other fins you mention in the Modom Mod Mini review we did a few weeks back. Putting the Jordy against the AM2 their isn't much difference, but not sure about the construction. I love the honeycomb AM2 construction, and love them as they get older and softer - I actually rode a new set today and feel like they need to bend a few times to break in...
I have a 5'6 Hypto and love it. My favorite board and I love future flex. Only when the waves are really soft does the round tail on the hypto start to feel a little narrow and lack push. I was looking at the LOOT for a step down. But the Chumlee by Dan Mann also looks really fun. Could you compare the Loot to the Chumlee?? In terms of drive and maneuverability. Do you like the longer rail line of the Loot compared to the Chumlee? Sometimes I worry that these super short hyper-grovelers just don't have enough rail line to give you drive through turns. I would expect that the LOOT is a bit easier to ride, with more drive but the chumlee is more maneuverable? Which board was more fun for you?
Matt Clem hey! The Chumlee was like the super groveler, where the Loot sat above that as a tad more performance. From the review you’ll see I’m surfing the Loot in some ok 3-4ft waves, I wouldn’t surf the Chumlee in that, it’s super flat rocker and bulky profile would struggle. But where the Chumlee would feel amazing in knee high waves, the Loot wants a tad more push... So, if you want a super groveler for waves ankle to chest high - Chumlee. If you want a groveler for waves waist high to overhead - The Loot! I hope that helps!
@@TheSurfboardGuide it seems like the boards match the conditions of the local surf where the shaper lives. Waves in Australia seem to have more punch even when they are smaller. Southern California small, is really small and with less punch, conditions where a chumlee would be a better option. I've yet to make it to Australia but it seems like California small and ozzie small is a bit different. Thanks for the feedback.
@@mattclem382 I agree to a point, but on the East Coast of Australia where I live and surf waves are quite similar to Southern California - we have fairly average beach breaks, and a few more exciting spots like Trestles etc. I think we would have a bit more consistency, and a few more exciting reefs/points/slabs, but similar swell periods etc...
Hey Mate, following on from Bach Shak below how would you compare/what did you prefer between The Loot and the Hippy Fling. Looking to get a full groveller/ fun board that I can still turn when I get the odd section and just to keep me in the water
Hey! Really similar boards and you'd be good with any of them. I really liked the outline and rail profile of the Loot was quite unique and allowed the board to do some really good turns when you got a section!
I'm late to the party but having seen different reviews the Loot and the Hypto seem really similar in size and dimensions.. Would you recommend one or the other as a 1 board quiver from 1 foot to overhead? I read below you said the Hypto was more performance whereas Hayden Shapes told me the opposite. They did say the Hypto can handle bigger surf? Just wondering because here in the states the Loot is cheaper and cheaper is better all things being equal.
I'd say why the Loot can still performance surf, it feels like it is built to cruise! Where the Hypto is more performance and has more of a shortboard feel!
Hey Craig, how does the Loot compare to the Plunder as a quad or thruster? Ive heard it works well with the futures centre thruster fin you can get with the long base to fit the long box on the Plunder. It looks like Hayden has tweaked the outline for the Loot but is the rocker and bottom shape similar to the Plunder? Cheers
Hi, I am eyeing the Loot, but also considering other options, for a board that will be easy to ride small waves with, up to 1.5 mt average. I have trouble paddling efficiently at take off because I have not surfed for 10 years (I used to compete and be real good) and I am not as strong, quick and reactive as I was then. Basically I need a board with more volume to aid my take off and avoid being late on the wave. Is this the right one for me? and if so, 5'6 or 5'8? I always ride 5'8 to 5'10 but way way thinner. Thank You in advance!
elb2018 I didn’t really delve into the PE-C construction too much as it didn’t feel a whole lot different to a normal stringered blank. Where you can feel the difference riding Futureflex etc, this felt very familiar and reliable similar to a PU stringered blank. 🤙
goodtimesmag.gr really much the same. Hayden has also used epoxy resins on all his boards, Futureflex & with a wooden stringer. So they’ve always been light and very lively, and this is much the same. You’d rarely pick up a Hayden under your arm and think it feels a bit heavy... 💪
Hi guys, Nice review ! In a small wave context did you feel that you got the most performance out of the Ultra Joe the Hippy Fling or the Loot ? Cheer's !
Beach Shak probably the Loot - the Ultra Joe really needed me to add extra litres to it to get it going. I think it was like 32L? The Loots flatness is great and really easy to surf. Also the Loot feels good as quad, so it’s really drivey, where the Ultra Joe only felt good as a thruster, so while it was really maneuverable, it didn’t have the same drive...
I hated the Loot. Worst thing was, while pumping for speed, it would occasionally just flip upsidedown...fins almost gutted me a couple of times. Also, nose rocker was way too low and I kept pearling on steep drops. Never had these issues before or since the Loot.
Mate! Sounds like you’re having a tough time. My Loot didn’t do that, but it is flat and I can see it might struggle in steeper/bigger surf if you aren’t used to it… ✌️
Hey mate, you seem like a decent size guy & you ride seemingly lower volume board’s, for your size. I’m 83.91 & I ride 28-30L depending on the type of board I’m riding. Looks like you get along just fine on that 30L volume. How close are we in weight???
Hey! I'm 92kg, and yeah I ride fairly low volume for weight, so i try and steer away from giving too much advice on volume, but where is do it is just the differentiation between this, and what i would normally ride. Volume is such a personal thing and is dependent on so many factors. Where i've ridden boards with much higher volume, i've had a horrible time... Thanks for your feedback!
I also put a front traction on my small wave board Never had it before, but wanted to try it out as I got tired of melted wax bukkake tears on it when i pull the board out of the back of the ute. Really quite enjoying it tbh
Waxfoot hahaha! It’s ok, but just make sure you’re wearing a wettie or shirt when surfing. It’ll do things to your bare chest that you never thought were possible... 😂
The Surfboard Guide yea, at 40 years old, my chest hair still hasn’t kicked in yet... maybe when i grow up... so there’s little padding between my chest and the pad.
Learned the hard way
@@xWaxxy Hahaha!
How would you compare the Loot vs the CI Rocket Wide or even the Pyzel Astro Pop? I am trying to get a new board but just can't make up my mind.
Hi
Thanks for the review :)
I have the HS2 generation fins in size medium as this fits my weight (165lbs) and am surfing them as a thruster set up.
I would like to try my board as a quad, and would like to use the HS generation 4.20 quad rear fins to do so, but they only come in large.
Would the large quad rears work with my two medium HS2 fins?
Hey! I feel like that would work well, and it'd be good to try it and see how it goes. My favourite quad setup is medium fronts, and large rears...
@@TheSurfboardGuide Okay that’s great, thanks so much!
Hi Craig.
I have been longboarding a 9’1” for a long time. I am looking for a transition into a small board. I am 1.70 meters tall and weight 82 kgs and I am about to get a 6’6” 43 L volume Loot for a smooth transition (kind of cruiser mode). I heva seen the board and has interesting specs for smooth transition. What do you think?
Hi Craig, keen to get your thoughts on what you think is the best board for Sydney beachies for an intermediate surfer? I was thinking of getting an Ultra Joe until I saw this review. I’ve got a Sampler, which is great for waves with a bit of push. Cheers
Aussie Snowboarder hey! So I’m guessing you’re after something that’ll sit below the Sampler and for small/average waves?
This Loot here is good, super versatile and lots of fun to surf. Also the Psycho Nitro from JS is another good board for those waves.
Probably look at things that offer a quad setup, or are good with a twin + stabiliser.
Thanks for getting back to
me Craig. Any other options you can recommend if I was to replace the Sampler? Cheers
Aussie Snowboarder if you want something similar to the Sampler, try the Hot Knife by Chilli. Similar outline and surfs very similarly, but a different rocker that probably works across more of a variety of conditions.
Hey mate.
Would be cool if you did a review using the new jordy futures fin. Versus the Am2 and maybe the john john ? I've always felt like honeycomb construction is too soft for my style , I love the am2 techflex. Its my go to fin or maybe the am2 side fins with a john john medium tech at the back. I haven't tried the am2 honeycomb. Maybe its a bit stiffer than other honeycombs I've tried. 🤔. Not sure of the complete construction of the new jordy because its painted out. Anyway, great vids ! Cheers
Mark
Thanks mate - we actually check out the Jordy and the other fins you mention in the Modom Mod Mini review we did a few weeks back.
Putting the Jordy against the AM2 their isn't much difference, but not sure about the construction.
I love the honeycomb AM2 construction, and love them as they get older and softer - I actually rode a new set today and feel like they need to bend a few times to break in...
@@TheSurfboardGuide haha yeah right. Yeah I found that video just after I commented about the jordy. Ha. Cheers mate .
Would the Loot work well set up as a twin + trailer? Cheers!
Yeah it would, super fun board ✌️
I have a 5'6 Hypto and love it. My favorite board and I love future flex. Only when the waves are really soft does the round tail on the hypto start to feel a little narrow and lack push. I was looking at the LOOT for a step down. But the Chumlee by Dan Mann also looks really fun. Could you compare the Loot to the Chumlee?? In terms of drive and maneuverability. Do you like the longer rail line of the Loot compared to the Chumlee? Sometimes I worry that these super short hyper-grovelers just don't have enough rail line to give you drive through turns. I would expect that the LOOT is a bit easier to ride, with more drive but the chumlee is more maneuverable? Which board was more fun for you?
Matt Clem hey!
The Chumlee was like the super groveler, where the Loot sat above that as a tad more performance. From the review you’ll see I’m surfing the Loot in some ok 3-4ft waves, I wouldn’t surf the Chumlee in that, it’s super flat rocker and bulky profile would struggle. But where the Chumlee would feel amazing in knee high waves, the Loot wants a tad more push...
So, if you want a super groveler for waves ankle to chest high - Chumlee.
If you want a groveler for waves waist high to overhead - The Loot!
I hope that helps!
@@TheSurfboardGuide it seems like the boards match the conditions of the local surf where the shaper lives. Waves in Australia seem to have more punch even when they are smaller. Southern California small, is really small and with less punch, conditions where a chumlee would be a better option. I've yet to make it to Australia but it seems like California small and ozzie small is a bit different. Thanks for the feedback.
@@mattclem382 I agree to a point, but on the East Coast of Australia where I live and surf waves are quite similar to Southern California - we have fairly average beach breaks, and a few more exciting spots like Trestles etc.
I think we would have a bit more consistency, and a few more exciting reefs/points/slabs, but similar swell periods etc...
Hey Mate, following on from Bach Shak below how would you compare/what did you prefer between The Loot and the Hippy Fling. Looking to get a full groveller/ fun board that I can still turn when I get the odd section and just to keep me in the water
Hey! Really similar boards and you'd be good with any of them. I really liked the outline and rail profile of the Loot was quite unique and allowed the board to do some really good turns when you got a section!
I'm late to the party but having seen different reviews the Loot and the Hypto seem really similar in size and dimensions.. Would you recommend one or the other as a 1 board quiver from 1 foot to overhead? I read below you said the Hypto was more performance whereas Hayden Shapes told me the opposite. They did say the Hypto can handle bigger surf? Just wondering because here in the states the Loot is cheaper and cheaper is better all things being equal.
Hey mate - Hypto over the Loot everyday.
The Loot was good, but did not have the versatility of the Hypto.
What’s your take on the soft top model
Looks fun and full of volume!
We release our Hypto Krypto Softboard review this afternoon!
small wave board maybe the futureflex techno be better ??? less weigth ??
Yeah, I think the FF in this would be great - unfortunately we only got to ride the PE-C tech!
thanks for the reply. only custom in FF. PE-C only marketing ??
Another great review mate. What would be the biggest difference between the Loop and The Hypto?
I'd say why the Loot can still performance surf, it feels like it is built to cruise! Where the Hypto is more performance and has more of a shortboard feel!
The Surfboard Guide : Gotcha, thanks for your reply mate! I’m getting the Loot , love the board’s outline 🤙🏼
@@GabrielMirandaV0878 they also seemed to be priced pretty well too...
Hi Craig, how does the weight on the PE construction compare to a regular stock PU board (2 x 4oz deck etc)?
Hey - not enough different to tell, they both feel good with the HS construction etc.
Hey Craig, how does the Loot compare to the Plunder as a quad or thruster? Ive heard it works well with the futures centre thruster fin you can get with the long base to fit the long box on the Plunder. It looks like Hayden has tweaked the outline for the Loot but is the rocker and bottom shape similar to the Plunder? Cheers
I haven't ridden a Plunder except for a few waves as a quick board swap.
Hi, I am eyeing the Loot, but also considering other options, for a board that will be easy to ride small waves with, up to 1.5 mt average. I have trouble paddling efficiently at take off because I have not surfed for 10 years (I used to compete and be real good) and I am not as strong, quick and reactive as I was then. Basically I need a board with more volume to aid my take off and avoid being late on the wave. Is this the right one for me? and if so, 5'6 or 5'8?
I always ride 5'8 to 5'10 but way way thinner. Thank You in advance!
Hi! Have you looked at a Hypto Krypto? This might better fit what you're looking for!
Good review mate, how does that construction feel in comparison to PU or eps?
elb2018 I didn’t really delve into the PE-C construction too much as it didn’t feel a whole lot different to a normal stringered blank. Where you can feel the difference riding Futureflex etc, this felt very familiar and reliable similar to a PU stringered blank. 🤙
@@TheSurfboardGuide what about the weight of PE-C construction?great review!!
goodtimesmag.gr really much the same. Hayden has also used epoxy resins on all his boards, Futureflex & with a wooden stringer. So they’ve always been light and very lively, and this is much the same.
You’d rarely pick up a Hayden under your arm and think it feels a bit heavy... 💪
Hi guys, Nice review ! In a small wave context did you feel that you got the most performance out of the Ultra Joe the Hippy Fling or the Loot ? Cheer's !
Beach Shak probably the Loot - the Ultra Joe really needed me to add extra litres to it to get it going. I think it was like 32L?
The Loots flatness is great and really easy to surf. Also the Loot feels good as quad, so it’s really drivey, where the Ultra Joe only felt good as a thruster, so while it was really maneuverable, it didn’t have the same drive...
@@TheSurfboardGuide Cheer's mate Appreciate it !
I hated the Loot. Worst thing was, while pumping for speed, it would occasionally just flip upsidedown...fins almost gutted me a couple of times. Also, nose rocker was way too low and I kept pearling on steep drops. Never had these issues before or since the Loot.
Mate! Sounds like you’re having a tough time.
My Loot didn’t do that, but it is flat and I can see it might struggle in steeper/bigger surf if you aren’t used to it… ✌️
I’ve surfed loot on so many waves. Idk how you didn’t like it
Hey mate, you seem like a decent size guy & you ride seemingly lower volume board’s, for your size.
I’m 83.91 & I ride 28-30L depending on the type of board I’m riding. Looks like you get along just fine on that 30L volume. How close are we in weight???
Hey! I'm 92kg, and yeah I ride fairly low volume for weight, so i try and steer away from giving too much advice on volume, but where is do it is just the differentiation between this, and what i would normally ride. Volume is such a personal thing and is dependent on so many factors. Where i've ridden boards with much higher volume, i've had a horrible time... Thanks for your feedback!
I have one for sale 33L 5'10". Trade for RNF or any lost board 31-34L. I'm in Hawaii.
bog rail united! shoulda gone up to a 5'10
Sorry Jimmy Slade! Haha!
Un estilo horrible tiene el nota este
Fabian Monzi Sorry Kelly...