No for real that tip about transient shaping the sides and compressing the mids and sending them to a bus is crazy, I needed that. I use Reason so I had to figure out a way to do it and it slaps.
If you need to use this kind of mastering techniques, you probably should go back to the mix. A simple (and good) master can be done with eq/comp/sat/limiter. Tricky stuff can bring the need of additional techniques like DS-ing, mb comp, MS processing (eq, saturation..), clipping... If your master are not good with all of this, fixing the mix is the easiest solution. Never saw anyone do a "mid-only heavy parrallel SSL-style compression" on a master, except for resolving mix issues.
@@bubbagump6037 that's what mix engineers can call "mixbus processing". Some mix engineers put advanced techniques like this on their master bus mainly for artistic purposes, but the song would still be sent to a mastering studio. If everything is absolutely perfect and these techniques bring something new on the table, the mastering engineer would only have to use few tools to make the song radio-ready. Some things you have to remember about mastering : - mastering is about having a second look on the track : a 1db eq bell and final limiting can be all the song needs, and a good mastering engineer know where not to do anything - mastering is also about making the song translate in different codecs : streaming, CD, vinyl, cassette... Which are technical steps that require particular knowledge, skills and gear. - if you produce your own songs (like 99% of people watching this video, myself included), mastering should be a very minimal step and everything should be done in the mix. Mastering should be about giving a last polish but not about resolving issues with techniques shown here. Sure, you can "mixbus process the track" to get the color you want and for artistic purposes (most of the time with eq, sat, comp), but the mastering should be really minimal. And if you're going for mid-only parrallel heavy SSL-style compression on your mixbus, you should probably just bring the drums 1db louder 😂
Sounds beautiful, thanks for sharing, your videos are always a pleasure! Great workflow and several great tools I totally forgot about here! (gSat+ 👍). Never heard of transient shaping the side signal, must try this! Easy to get swept up in the hype, TBH just this week i picked up ADPTR Sculpt, TOMO LISA, Purple MC 77, Soma, P.A. BetterMaker, AMEK 200 and a couple of little things... Yes, I may be an addict... 🤷🏽♂️🤣
Man that was amazing.. You did that with free stuff huh.. Impressive.. That trick with that plugin Crack is extremely outstanding.. I know I will use that.. You my friend, are one amazing engineer/producer/teacher/just fantastic.. Thank you again buddy.. I can't wait to see what I can learn from your videos..
I have to disagree about Frontier. It sounds nice, but it is definitely NOT a compressor. It's a soft-clipping limiter. Ppl in the comments: try the Kotelnikov bus compressor by TDR (the same company making Limiter6). It gets you better loudness without the same "sausage" effect that limiters can create, helping to preserve your dynamics a bit more.
@@sageaudio definitely, I was intended to also change some of the plug ins on the chain with similar ones, I just wasn't sure about how the mid side compression would affect the mix .. but yeah I will give it a try for sure !
Quick question, you compressed the mids early in the chain (third) and then again at the end, yes? Any specific reason why, just to keep it subtle? Thanks for the great tips, love the parallel mid compression idea.
Thanks for the video, but I really wish you would link to the plugins instead of making us hunt them down, trying to find Crack with a Google is basically impossible...
I understand that the intention is to create a free mastering chain that is not DAW specific, however I am a Logic user, and I’m wondering if you feel there are specific plugins in your chain here that are superior to stock logic plugins. Thanks
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I want to use this chance to thank you for all your informative videos. Keep up the great work!
No for real that tip about transient shaping the sides and compressing the mids and sending them to a bus is crazy, I needed that. I use Reason so I had to figure out a way to do it and it slaps.
Transient shaping the sides...I did not think about that. Good one👍
I've been watching your videos for a year and holy crap I love you you're amazing
Limiter6 is such a gem and been around for along time.. Thanks for reminding me of how great this plugin is again
Im going to get that now.. lol
GE is great as well
@@jon0830 I use the GE version now days. But there's something about the clipper in the old plug
Seems to handle more when pushed
I learnt mixing
BCz of you
I can hear compression and i know how to actually think and commitment
Best Channel On TH-cam Forever
factssssssssss!!
This tutorial is AWESOME! The trick using crack on the side image was straight fire!
i would have never thought of trying something like that
Damn dude, I'm glad that YT suggested this video in my feed. New subscriber now, and this was great info. Thanks for making it.
If you need to use this kind of mastering techniques, you probably should go back to the mix.
A simple (and good) master can be done with eq/comp/sat/limiter. Tricky stuff can bring the need of additional techniques like DS-ing, mb comp, MS processing (eq, saturation..), clipping... If your master are not good with all of this, fixing the mix is the easiest solution.
Never saw anyone do a "mid-only heavy parrallel SSL-style compression" on a master, except for resolving mix issues.
Lol are you serious? You send all your customers back for mix revisions? I bet you have a succesful business 😂
@@EdwinDekker71 I don't have any business but the goal to achieve better sounding songs for me and others, and this is not the proper way to do it
This comment is so underrated. Most of the time, the mix is the problem, not the master
Just out of curiosity. What about having a perfect tracking and mixing and THEN doing fancy stuff like that?
@@bubbagump6037 that's what mix engineers can call "mixbus processing". Some mix engineers put advanced techniques like this on their master bus mainly for artistic purposes, but the song would still be sent to a mastering studio. If everything is absolutely perfect and these techniques bring something new on the table, the mastering engineer would only have to use few tools to make the song radio-ready.
Some things you have to remember about mastering :
- mastering is about having a second look on the track : a 1db eq bell and final limiting can be all the song needs, and a good mastering engineer know where not to do anything
- mastering is also about making the song translate in different codecs : streaming, CD, vinyl, cassette... Which are technical steps that require particular knowledge, skills and gear.
- if you produce your own songs (like 99% of people watching this video, myself included), mastering should be a very minimal step and everything should be done in the mix. Mastering should be about giving a last polish but not about resolving issues with techniques shown here. Sure, you can "mixbus process the track" to get the color you want and for artistic purposes (most of the time with eq, sat, comp), but the mastering should be really minimal.
And if you're going for mid-only parrallel heavy SSL-style compression on your mixbus, you should probably just bring the drums 1db louder 😂
I never miss one of your videos. One of these days I'll finish the recording and mixing of my LP. You'll be the guy I go to for Mastering.
Sounds beautiful, thanks for sharing, your videos are always a pleasure! Great workflow and several great tools I totally forgot about here! (gSat+ 👍). Never heard of transient shaping the side signal, must try this!
Easy to get swept up in the hype, TBH just this week i picked up ADPTR Sculpt, TOMO LISA, Purple MC 77, Soma, P.A. BetterMaker, AMEK 200 and a couple of little things... Yes, I may be an addict... 🤷🏽♂️🤣
Nice!! Seemed like a long chain wit a lot of processors but end result was still butter. Master wit 2 sends was a great tip too. Thx fr sharing
crazy value here
Excellent explanation
Wow, this is amazing. Thank you so much. really didnt expect every pluginto be free.
Man that was amazing.. You did that with free stuff huh.. Impressive.. That trick with that plugin Crack is extremely outstanding.. I know I will use that.. You my friend, are one amazing engineer/producer/teacher/just fantastic.. Thank you again buddy.. I can't wait to see what I can learn from your videos..
Kiive Warmy EQ V2 is out now and even better than the original (yes, still free)
Msed & crack is awesome technic thanks❤
You should do one also where as you calculate the lufs to see how it would sound on all plats etc
Song is Blue Mind by Torii Wolf
Alternative Free Mastering Chain:
Subtractive EQ - Ikjb Qrange
Saturation - Voxengo TubeAmp
Compression - Fircomp
Side Image - MSED & Transpire
Mid Image - MSED & TDR Molotok
Additive EQ - TDR VOS Slick EQ
Air EQ - Bertom Air Shelf
Collective Compression - TDR Kotelnikov
Clipping - Free Clip
Limiting - LVC Audio Limited Z
May I know what song is that? I absolutely love it!
Thank you
Very informative
can u make video: how to mix chorus
Would I need to do both mid/side compression and the msed + crack plugin or are you just showing multiple ways to skin a cat
Just showing multiple ways! Thanks for watching!
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you gotta tune the instrunt, by right clicking on it in the channel rack
I have to disagree about Frontier. It sounds nice, but it is definitely NOT a compressor. It's a soft-clipping limiter. Ppl in the comments: try the Kotelnikov bus compressor by TDR (the same company making Limiter6). It gets you better loudness without the same "sausage" effect that limiters can create, helping to preserve your dynamics a bit more.
Limiter No. 6 is the magic touch
can i download it? or do i have to do it myself?
This is gold
Would you recommend this chain also for heavy rock music ?
I'd say try it, but make adjustments as needed. Some additional saturation would help as well
@@sageaudio definitely, I was intended to also change some of the plug ins on the chain with similar ones, I just wasn't sure about how the mid side compression would affect the mix .. but yeah I will give it a try for sure !
Bests ❤️
where can i find the crack plugin like i just find websites for cracked plugins and not the "crack" plugin itself
Please upload tutorials on Mixing and Mastering for Film Score
At what value of Lufs do you finish your masters?
Which daw is being used
Is there a full version of that song out there
Blue Mind by Torii Wolf
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Quick question, you compressed the mids early in the chain (third) and then again at the end, yes? Any specific reason why, just to keep it subtle? Thanks for the great tips, love the parallel mid compression idea.
Let’s remember Michael Vaughan as well
Amazing!
Thanks for the video, but I really wish you would link to the plugins instead of making us hunt them down, trying to find Crack with a Google is basically impossible...
Grozav! 👌
I understand that the intention is to create a free mastering chain that is not DAW specific, however I am a Logic user, and I’m wondering if you feel there are specific plugins in your chain here that are superior to stock logic plugins. Thanks
what's the name of the song? i really like it
Blue Mind by Torii Wolf
@@BonoboBerry thx
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umm, please help me, i need that demo track forever in my life 00:44
Blue Mind by Torii Wolf
know what they tNice tutorialnk, and hopefully give so pointers. Thank you!