It’s a problem I see with some commentators. They were just talking about the current meta and other players and all that. They didn’t talk about the match for the first TWO STOCKS. There was hype stuff going on at least acknowledge it
Yes, in last hit situations zss can struggle a lot. Beyond certain percents her setups don’t work (like sheik) and you need to get kinda creative for the kill. Last hit situations are shield heavy and you’re generally safe in shield against zss until very late percents with good di
@@jackswain742 ZSS might have the best kill options out of all the high mobility characters. She literally has a kill throw (15) for high percents, a fast strong and safe aerial that can kill with b-air. Down-B is always a threat, especially at the ledge. Downsmash is safe on shield (-15) and confirms into down-b or boost kick. Boost kick is frame 6 OoS so falling directly on her shield isn't possible. Even side-b can work in a last hit situation, simply the fact you have to look out for it is threatening. Tldr; ZSS is no Sheik in last hit kill situations, Sheik would kill for a move like B-air and 6frame OoS option that kills at high percent
@@hope7237 I hate when people say she can’t kill lol. You have kill confirms off of needles, d-tilt, drag down upair, f-tilt, soft nair, down air, jab even… plus she’s one of the best edge guarders in the game, and her smash attacks aren’t half bad either so it’s pretty easy to whiff punish with them… She has so many tools to kill that if you’re not killing it’s entirely your fault
Up-tilt bouncing fish is somewhat uncommon but known combo. The full hop to extend it is quite smart but you do give up advantage state if they airdodge and bouncing fish is reactable, especially from a jump
@@Bladieblah it is a true and reliable combo at lower percents, above 60ish it stops connecting. The one Zackray did wouldn't be true even if the jump was not needed, yet the madlad went for it anyways and it worked.
God, these commentators are bad. They barely talked about the gameplay for two games, and then they say up tilt bouncing fish is innovative? That's been around since smash 4? It was just a good cleanup after two failed raindrops on Zackrays end
Everyone puts so much character viability into sheik's drag-down combos for some reason. Like its good but its not what makes her good. A drag-down combo killing at 112 is not an early ko.
@@TopOfAllWorlds Ness' Pk Thunder recovery is generally predictable, that's why it's important to mix up how you recover as Ness, vs recovering the same way every time.
@@EJJTheMiner i am talking about the fact that people are saying he is doing amazing combos but his combos are fake so idk why people hype him up for that. ofc hes a good player
@@mingi461 i am talking about his combos not his sheik in general. comments and commentators were going wild but his combos were fake. and where u from? if ur eu im down to play if u are that good
If you watch some of the other matches in the tournament i think it becomes VERY clear why Sheik does very well against others in japanese tournaments, they play verrrrry slow and methodical, but with sheik's speed it completely throws them off their game, and then ontop of that the person piloting the character is Zakray, so the competition is completely overwhelmed before they can even react it seems like a very great assesment on Zakray's part to exploit the sort of meta japan has atm, I can't wait to see if it shakes up other player's play styles as well to counteract it
Look how fast Zachary moves for these up smashes at 9:09 and 9:47
That’s absurd
The commentators really gonna just not comment on that first dominant 0 to death. That was sexy
It’s a problem I see with some commentators. They were just talking about the current meta and other players and all that. They didn’t talk about the match for the first TWO STOCKS. There was hype stuff going on at least acknowledge it
@@danielsmith5032 they are really just missing some tea and they are ready to talk about everything but the match :D
we got a calm “oo” out of em lol
I love how Zackray's a player that can put out a somewhat hot take on Twitter or w.e. and just immediately back it up with results
Zackray used Void very effectively in this match!
I wonder how Sheik would react to this set?
Yup he learned from when sheik beat him at frostbite
His sheik has the sauce
おすしっくすさん、篝火含めロゴデザイン等ありがとうございます！
今回のデザインも超カッコよかった！まさか配信で観れるとは。
8:10 that was nice
That VoiD power up working wonders I see 👌
Never seen so many raw up smash work
I can't wait for Tweek Talks to cover this...
SS tier Sheik?
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ザクレイ強すぎ
さすが日本一です！！
Did... did that commentator say ZSS has trouble killing?
its true sometimes
Yes, in last hit situations zss can struggle a lot. Beyond certain percents her setups don’t work (like sheik) and you need to get kinda creative for the kill. Last hit situations are shield heavy and you’re generally safe in shield against zss until very late percents with good di
@@jackswain742 ZSS might have the best kill options out of all the high mobility characters. She literally has a kill throw (15) for high percents, a fast strong and safe aerial that can kill with b-air. Down-B is always a threat, especially at the ledge. Downsmash is safe on shield (-15) and confirms into down-b or boost kick. Boost kick is frame 6 OoS so falling directly on her shield isn't possible. Even side-b can work in a last hit situation, simply the fact you have to look out for it is threatening.
Tldr; ZSS is no Sheik in last hit kill situations, Sheik would kill for a move like B-air and 6frame OoS option that kills at high percent
something about the video was really bothering me.
then I turned the volume to zero.
lovely!
"Sheik can't kill" They said "Sheik doesn't do damage" they said
no , only the first one
@@hope7237 naw sheik can kill if you know what your doing.
@@hope7237 I hate when people say she can’t kill lol. You have kill confirms off of needles, d-tilt, drag down upair, f-tilt, soft nair, down air, jab even… plus she’s one of the best edge guarders in the game, and her smash attacks aren’t half bad either so it’s pretty easy to whiff punish with them… She has so many tools to kill that if you’re not killing it’s entirely your fault
@@Liam-mv9zi lots of sheik sets have matches where their opponent is +150 % and she can't kill
Up tilt to fulljump bouncing fish? I don't think that is even true but who thinks of that?
It's true or 1-2 frames off, either way you could do that since smash 4 and it would combo better in that game because of the launch physics
Up-tilt bouncing fish is somewhat uncommon but known combo. The full hop to extend it is quite smart but you do give up advantage state if they airdodge and bouncing fish is reactable, especially from a jump
@@Bladieblah it is a true and reliable combo at lower percents, above 60ish it stops connecting. The one Zackray did wouldn't be true even if the jump was not needed, yet the madlad went for it anyways and it worked.
@@tomasbedoya2901 true on what percent and what weight?
@@Bladieblah midweight is true in between 30-65ish, then it bemcomes DI dependent and above 90 it does not connect
God, these commentators are bad. They barely talked about the gameplay for two games, and then they say up tilt bouncing fish is innovative? That's been around since smash 4? It was just a good cleanup after two failed raindrops on Zackrays end
おすしっくすさんって大会出るんだ！
I think I see what pro are saying about sheik now
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Zackray is a Demon in a Angel's body
“What do you mean by that?”
super up smash bros
Everyone puts so much character viability into sheik's drag-down combos for some reason. Like its good but its not what makes her good. A drag-down combo killing at 112 is not an early ko.
Despite the fact that it's Zackary, I feel like this match up is actually very hard for Ness
Nah it's not, at least for me it isn't. It's mainly because Zackray has a bunch of match up knowledge.
@@Sness400 Needles vs ness recovery seems awful for ness tbh
@@TopOfAllWorlds Ness' Pk Thunder recovery is generally predictable, that's why it's important to mix up how you recover as Ness, vs recovering the same way every time.
Zackray may of won but osusix looking dripped up
Great gameplay, awful commentators :(
People drooling over a speedy character as usual
wtf
Segundo.
1st
zackray was doing combos that arent true, ness just didnt press anything and everybody is going wild byeee. those are elite smash combos💀
LMAO found the masher
noticing how your opponent reacts to getting hit and using strings to punish those habits are a part of high level play sir
this matchup didnt even seem fair to be honest lol
@@EJJTheMiner i am talking about the fact that people are saying he is doing amazing combos but his combos are fake so idk why people hype him up for that. ofc hes a good player
@@mingi461 i am talking about his combos not his sheik in general. comments and commentators were going wild but his combos were fake. and where u from? if ur eu im down to play if u are that good
damn. so many upsmash readss
If you watch some of the other matches in the tournament i think it becomes VERY clear why Sheik does very well against others in japanese tournaments, they play verrrrry slow and methodical, but with sheik's speed it completely throws them off their game, and then ontop of that the person piloting the character is Zakray, so the competition is completely overwhelmed before they can even react
it seems like a very great assesment on Zakray's part to exploit the sort of meta japan has atm, I can't wait to see if it shakes up other player's play styles as well to counteract it