I was just about to say it. Bone walls just makes my ping go crazy. Triple blasters in first phase can kill 1 player at the start of the round if u focus on only 1 player. Spinning bone in the first phase lasts for a pretty long time and even if people gonna try to rush they'll take a lot of almost unavoidable damage. Final attack is basically guarented -1 life because of the trash hitboxes. Second phase is nothing special
Honestly, I wish revenge also got a rework he’s pretty much trash now and I used to main him to it’s very sad, ulc and ujd must have something against revenge to both nerf him
WAIT YOU CAN CAMP ALL THAT WITH WATERFALL?? I only camp the bone spears and use the Green SOUL thingy or Counter when people get too close.. Never knew like 90% of his kit was campable?? WHAT AM I DOING WRONG HERE???? 😭😭 EDIT: I have now mained waterfall, and he is quite OP. I feel like he's more like "I make rushers snap back to reality with my bonespears, and then i camp my memory blaster. If i see you are approaching; get fucked, i have a counter move that buffs me and 2 aiming attacks."
So basically, with the spear counter rework, you just camp in just about anything you have except spear. They have ranged? Use spear counter and instead of losing 30+ you regain 10+.
The HM sans one, lol I used to main him, it is really good if well played, but it's easily countered even by players with a mid experience in the game, but the fact that they heavily nerfed him... Now he's trash LOL Nerfing final attack would be enough but they made phase 2 ( that was already worse than phase 1 ) so useless, it's like LB phase 2 but people will only deal ranged damage on you cuz u can't heal stamina and phase 1 got slightly balanced but imo it got slightly nerfed too, at least he is getting a rework at 2025
@@Thatonefriendlycat Yeah honestly, when I first got him I was almost unstoppable using him because of the amount of shit that TS!Swap Paps can summon, though it’s been a long time since I first got him and especially the long break I had from ULC until the Genocide Updates so that memory may have become distorted.
you dont even know how unbalanced tdtspapyrus because he wasnt touched in eons the attacks are spammable as hell, and on top of that you get a phantom sans at half hp while charas cant do shit cuz of cruel bones and spin bone six bones and bone throw have such low cooldown that they're not just camping material, you can go agressive as well (one more thing, since he's a dust character he gets hp and stamina for kills, which is SO unfair to use him since the main goal is to spam the living crap out of your moved til someone dies. And thats why i use him :] )
@@Jigokunogoka I'm sure he was only mentioning his default skin. And while I get that skins can make the character a lot more powerful than their default skin. The dust version really shouldn't just be able to be better than it's counterpart. While it's a 'better' character overall, as in dealing with damage. Now while ts underswap dust version is a lot more better than his default, his music is straight up ear bleeding to hear, which is why I always prefer to use the default one.
I fucking resonated with the Negative Negatale so fucking much As someone who got Nega maxed out TWICE because of the data wipe incident his only strength is the bones, the blasters are ass
Man the data wipe incident just killed my mood on playing ulc again ngl exp system is such ass and from what I hear Chara team is too op to even get exp for sans team
@@glitch7031 i bet you that with op characters it is indeed easy but the fact exp is tied to kills and gives such a low amount and upgrades costing 5k+ to complete means you have to kill 200+ players while sweating and camping as lower tier characters
@@Marc19573 like I said before getting exp becomes easy. Perfect examples are Classic Sans, OT sans, UF Sans and technically ULB because it's low win requirements. This update made all of them way better and once you get one upgrade you suddenly have the second then the third and suddenly you're on your way to max
I cannot wait to see the Event/Gamepasses version of this once he covers all the others. I wanna know what he says about Ut3dBB Sans and Bonewalker so badly lol.
I feel like a very interesting how to play as would be someone like pacifist upgrade 2 or joking aside,since a lot of players struggle to get neutral and its understandable why,especially joking aside since he has a pretty decent moveset, just my opinion tho. Also,as someone who mains hardmode,you are absolutely right.
I just made a comment about my horror main life routine info and it got deleted 💀 if u're not afraid to imagine what was there said, you actually better be 💀💀💀
Geno, the character that was hell to max pre upd, and now he probably even worse to max, hardmode, I took 3 days to get golden with him but now classic is even better, waterfall after camping the whole round seeing they hace 175 stamina:
I main Geno and i'm almost getting the SwapAfter Final upgrade, kinda easy to play with him lol, i like his defensive strat for when you save up determination for when your low stamina and you kinda enter a "phase 2"
@@Brick_Nick Isn't like I already know how to play him, you are lucky because now geno is easy to rush real knife is a direct counter to him and swapafter is a skin than is better but probably will die more quick than the normal geno
1:35 no? The final attack of the finale is extremely easy if you can avoid that little bone-tunnel. If you have hp max there is no problem. but hardmode only.. impossible to avoid.
@@Wanckahh-UT Every time I try I die with a single attack. I always lose. If you try to hit the normal bone, you can hit it max 2 times. You take a lot of damage, how can it be better? The real classic is extremely easy. In the past, classi stayed in Sanses' attack 298393 times (in the original UT), my muscle memory still hasn't forgotten it, but it is impossible to gain even muscle memory in this attack. If you do not have 2 life full, otherwise you have almost 500 stamina, it is impossible to keep it.
Nah hardmode sans is good if you don't spam the $hit of the attacks plus you can camp in his attacks i win a lot when I use hard mode sans more than waterfall dust sans
Nah hardmode sans is good if you don't spam the $hit of the attacks plus you can camp in his attacks i win a lot when I use hard mode sans more than waterfall dust sans
Yo wankahh, just suggesting and not forcing you but could you make a dust for dummies? It could be any version, or just do all of them. Whatever you'd like, choose it. As i said before, not forcing you.
@@Wanckahh-UT in the last update yeah but revenge's block dont even work on the reworked weapons 😭literally the only thing hes got is camping and the new weapons made that almost impossible great video though it was funny
@@hedgedogtaken Revenge's damage is really good, you can easily caught people with bomb attack (immense damage with FL), also his spin bone can make people scared from rushing you. He without the FL upgrade It is actually not That good, but when you finally get It, you become basically invencible If well playing
*Horror mains rules:* Rule 1. Run Run Run and get Hunger bar full Rule 2. Spam Spam Spam until Hunger bar will drop to 0% Rule 3. repeat rule 1 and 2 over and over again
@@skell6134 and this is super fun lol. Now it makes sense. but this is not bad. You can even make it completely random. I wish there was a random button, it would be so much fun.
I take back what I said about hardmode. He’s one of the best characters in the game
I was just about to say it.
Bone walls just makes my ping go crazy. Triple blasters in first phase can kill 1 player at the start of the round if u focus on only 1 player. Spinning bone in the first phase lasts for a pretty long time and even if people gonna try to rush they'll take a lot of almost unavoidable damage. Final attack is basically guarented -1 life because of the trash hitboxes. Second phase is nothing special
He is the only character in the entire game to turn my game into a slide show presentation i hate him so much
FELLSWAP EMERALD SWEEP WHERE MY FSE MAINS AT 💪💪🔥🔥🗣🗣‼
Here🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯
YES SIR! 🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥💥
fse is MID
@@theguyfr Boys. GET THIS NON BELIEVER OUTTA HERE 🗣🗣
@@theguyfr the k y and s keys on my keyboard:
Why did bro want to throw hands with Eis so bad 😔
He said my content was mid 😔
@@Wanckahh-UTCongeats for 900 subs🎉
as someone who plays literally everything this can't effect me.
As a waterfall user, I can confirm that no one gets past my “campingalloveryoubitch”
For some reason i still can't get used to playing as or playing against the reworked reworked horror.
Honestly, I wish revenge also got a rework he’s pretty much trash now and I used to main him to it’s very sad, ulc and ujd must have something against revenge to both nerf him
Nerfvenge
@@Annoyance. Revenge the unseen nerfing
As a negatale main.
*Did you know the bonethrow comes back?*
i love when im first person + flipped screen + when i move my screen shakes rapidly because of a move
Well pardner my main is Underswap Papyrus, but now it became Fellswap Emerald because we are crossing deadline with this one!🗣️👽
man ur channel is SUPER UNDERRATED, i hope u get more subscribers, cuz ur videos is very good, ty
I hope so too
So true. Altho everyone knows him in the OFFICIAL ULC server lol
@@Brick_Nick I’m the hardtale guy
@@Wanckahh-UT I know dude, i have you added on discord
Do you know his bone throw comes back??
no I didn’t. Wait also funfact the bonethrow comes back
Wow i didn't know his bone throw comes back!
Do you know why his bone throw come backs? Fun fact his bone throw come backs
determination overload killer is kinda underrated ngl, also make a weapon mains series after this
8magibe having only 4 moves as REVENGE, but 2 are always blocked becsyse there are DustTale chara users.
WAIT YOU CAN CAMP ALL THAT WITH WATERFALL?? I only camp the bone spears and use the Green SOUL thingy or Counter when people get too close.. Never knew like 90% of his kit was campable?? WHAT AM I DOING WRONG HERE???? 😭😭
EDIT: I have now mained waterfall, and he is quite OP. I feel like he's more like "I make rushers snap back to reality with my bonespears, and then i camp my memory blaster. If i see you are approaching; get fucked, i have a counter move that buffs me and 2 aiming attacks."
Lol
So basically, with the spear counter rework, you just camp in just about anything you have except spear. They have ranged? Use spear counter and instead of losing 30+ you regain 10+.
@@Error-ff5rg I'll try that, thanks.
The HM sans one, lol I used to main him, it is really good if well played, but it's easily countered even by players with a mid experience in the game, but the fact that they heavily nerfed him... Now he's trash LOL
Nerfing final attack would be enough but they made phase 2 ( that was already worse than phase 1 ) so useless, it's like LB phase 2 but people will only deal ranged damage on you cuz u can't heal stamina and phase 1 got slightly balanced but imo it got slightly nerfed too, at least he is getting a rework at 2025
TS!Underswap papyrus was done real dirty since he was added, he was feared in the past and now no one remembers him now.
Was he though? I have him maxed out but I really doubt people were scared of ts underswap users.
@@Thatonefriendlycat Yeah honestly, when I first got him I was almost unstoppable using him because of the amount of shit that TS!Swap Paps can summon, though it’s been a long time since I first got him and especially the long break I had from ULC until the Genocide Updates so that memory may have become distorted.
you dont even know how unbalanced tdtspapyrus because he wasnt touched in eons
the attacks are spammable as hell, and on top of that you get a phantom sans at half hp while charas cant do shit cuz of cruel bones and spin bone
six bones and bone throw have such low cooldown that they're not just camping material, you can go agressive as well
(one more thing, since he's a dust character he gets hp and stamina for kills, which is SO unfair to use him since the main goal is to spam the living crap out of your moved til someone dies. And thats why i use him :] )
@@Jigokunogoka I'm sure he was only mentioning his default skin. And while I get that skins can make the character a lot more powerful than their default skin. The dust version really shouldn't just be able to be better than it's counterpart. While it's a 'better' character overall, as in dealing with damage. Now while ts underswap dust version is a lot more better than his default, his music is straight up ear bleeding to hear, which is why I always prefer to use the default one.
Ts sucks, so does tsds
Neutral main: finally i got neutral and its so good
Did you know science sans has a bone throw
As someone who doesnt have a main i see this as an absolute win
Same.
Fr
Bad thing
Bro, Wankahh hitting us GOOD today.
Thanks for these two vids, dude.
Take a break if you need it! ( I'll wait for your return if you take a break! )
Thank you.
the worst part is that this is way too fucking accurate 😭
I fucking resonated with the Negative Negatale so fucking much
As someone who got Nega maxed out TWICE because of the data wipe incident his only strength is the bones, the blasters are ass
Man the data wipe incident just killed my mood on playing ulc again ngl exp system is such ass and from what I hear Chara team is too op to even get exp for sans team
@@Marc19573 well for some characters getting the exp is tough but for others it's very easy, like boringly easy
@@glitch7031 i bet you that with op characters it is indeed easy but the fact exp is tied to kills and gives such a low amount and upgrades costing 5k+ to complete means you have to kill 200+ players while sweating and camping as lower tier characters
@@Marc19573 like I said before getting exp becomes easy. Perfect examples are Classic Sans, OT sans, UF Sans and technically ULB because it's low win requirements. This update made all of them way better and once you get one upgrade you suddenly have the second then the third and suddenly you're on your way to max
Insantiy sans users crying in the corner after being raided by DT wielded Kris, Real knife and Killer knife users.
😭 also another wanq W tbh...
I cannot wait to see the Event/Gamepasses version of this once he covers all the others. I wanna know what he says about Ut3dBB Sans and Bonewalker so badly lol.
Maybe he like…doesn’t own the gamepass characters
As a hardmode main, you're fully correct. And the mastery skin is ass
I feel like a very interesting how to play as would be someone like pacifist upgrade 2 or joking aside,since a lot of players struggle to get neutral and its understandable why,especially joking aside since he has a pretty decent moveset, just my opinion tho. Also,as someone who mains hardmode,you are absolutely right.
Even something like killer or insa for dummies would be interesting
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I just made a comment about my horror main life routine info and it got deleted 💀 if u're not afraid to imagine what was there said, you actually better be 💀💀💀
Geno, the character that was hell to max pre upd, and now he probably even worse to max, hardmode, I took 3 days to get golden with him but now classic is even better, waterfall after camping the whole round seeing they hace 175 stamina:
I main Geno and i'm almost getting the SwapAfter Final upgrade, kinda easy to play with him lol, i like his defensive strat for when you save up determination for when your low stamina and you kinda enter a "phase 2"
@@Brick_Nick Isn't like I already know how to play him, you are lucky because now geno is easy to rush real knife is a direct counter to him and swapafter is a skin than is better but probably will die more quick than the normal geno
i wasnt expecting the eis reference from the ulc disco server, neat detail
i can agree on the hardmode one , but something's off about it
if hes a downgrade... how come do i win every round with him
Special atack...
@@Xenoig-xe4ek pretty much
Being a downgrade doesn’t mean you’ll necessary lose if you use him.
This was 100% accurate 🥲🥲🥲
Wait guys how hard did they nerf hardmode? Did they change his final?
Idk how but all I know is that his special attack is slower now I think
His phase 2 sucks now. His phase 1 is really good. And his special attacks sucks. That’s basically it.
@@Wanckahh-UT I don’t understand why they would nerf hardmode when it’s supposed to be hard, it’s in the name
@@Wanckahh-UT yeah i tested it yesterday and i could barley defeat a killer knife 💀
Dam your growing so fast! After a few hours your almost at 900 subs!
Dam you upload quick and good content
0:48 for some reason i liked the way he said it
@@EnzoDeSouzaGranzotto-et1jv k
I really agree with the hardmode sans bro can't save himself even with his special attack
Classic Waterfall Dust W.
Respect for tsunderswap mains and fse mains ❤
Meanwhile Killer and his double blaster strat:
poor hardmode
Hey dude what happened to top 10 best/worst skins in ULC?
1:48 as a waterfall dust main we do that
somebody forgor killer has a void move
Eis really need to take a shower fr
Me, a pro at Classic with 7k+ exp hearing that Hardmode is a downgrade: *”UM, EXCUSE ME, WHAT THE ACTUAL F_CK!?”*
He is much more problematic to play than Classic,even tho he kinda IS better
Having skill as him let me kill 5k players and get 10k exp
Stopping people from saying "first".
I was the REAL First no offenses
wankahh another amazing vid should make more tbh
sorry im dumb, what upgrade makes geno worse?
Kr
@@Wanckahh-UT Why would It make him worse tho?
@@Brick_Nick it nerfs his damage and ruins his one shot
@@Wanckahh-UT Hm idk, i main him and i like to save up determination for when i'm low stamina, maybe i Just got used to his kr Nerf or something...
1:39 🦴🦴🦴🦴🦴🦴
You forgot about neutral so here it is the description in my view: I am fucking unbeatable, thats it.
1:35 no? The final attack of the finale is extremely easy if you can avoid that little bone-tunnel. If you have hp max there is no problem. but hardmode only.. impossible to avoid.
Skill issue
@@Wanckahh-UT ??? Skill doesnt exit. Also litreally cant sosgable orange bone and bpue bone hit same time.
@@Wanckahh-UT Every time I try I die with a single attack. I always lose. If you try to hit the normal bone, you can hit it max 2 times. You take a lot of damage, how can it be better? The real classic is extremely easy. In the past, classi stayed in Sanses' attack 298393 times (in the original UT), my muscle memory still hasn't forgotten it, but it is impossible to gain even muscle memory in this attack. If you do not have 2 life full, otherwise you have almost 500 stamina, it is impossible to keep it.
Sounds like a skill issue
@@CharaTR mans saying dodging attacks doesnt require skill 💀
Would better make it a whole video
Could you make one in Insanity Sans? He looks 'insane'ly bad to use idk
Mann
I play more sans then hardmode
Yes he is really bad now and so laggy
U can use btt without hard mode activated
True
Nah hardmode sans is good if you don't spam the $hit of the attacks plus you can camp in his attacks i win a lot when I use hard mode sans more than waterfall dust sans
Nah hardmode sans is good if you don't spam the $hit of the attacks plus you can camp in his attacks i win a lot when I use hard mode sans more than waterfall dust sans
I enjoy alot more using sans cause sans has more offensive attack then hm but ofc he can be good used good
0:22 as a fellswap emerald main i can confirm 💀
(i may or may not be like 2 weeks late to this video)
im fse and hardtale XD [i randomly switch, but i NEVER use anything else.]
As an TS underswap papyrus main, i can say that he is not trash, he is more viable than most characters
you have forgotten TSDS's existence.
Your not serious.
youre*@@Wanckahh-UT
Yo wankahh, just suggesting and not forcing you but could you make a dust for dummies? It could be any version, or just do all of them. Whatever you'd like, choose it. As i said before, not forcing you.
ts underswap being the worst character??? have you not played revenge in pubs since the update?
Revenge is way better then ts. It’s not even close
@@Wanckahh-UT in the last update yeah but revenge's block dont even work on the reworked weapons 😭literally the only thing hes got is camping and the new weapons made that almost impossible
great video though it was funny
@@Wanckahh-UTcounter point. phase 2.
@@hedgedogtaken Revenge's damage is really good, you can easily caught people with bomb attack (immense damage with FL), also his spin bone can make people scared from rushing you.
He without the FL upgrade It is actually not That good, but when you finally get It, you become basically invencible If well playing
Also he can Still beat people with new weapons
what happened to neutral run?
You should totally include busted admin Characters (jk)
Why is this so funny
Because they speak fax
@@-N0t_Important- makes sense
I HATE horror mains... No offenses to anyone here
I was the REAL First HAHAHAHAAAA
*Horror mains rules:*
Rule 1. Run Run Run and get Hunger bar full
Rule 2. Spam Spam Spam until Hunger bar will drop to 0%
Rule 3. repeat rule 1 and 2 over and over again
@@Leon_404rule 4: And use stupid spiky bone Shields WHENEVER Someone tries to get near you
@@Brick_Nick Rule 5. When you are in hunger mode use bear trap whenever someone tries to get near you
What's wrong with horror😿😿
oh and what does canon-dust say?
random bullshit go brrrr
@@UltimaD. why?
@@CharaTRBecause murder has selectable moveset so Chara team cant really be sure what he gonna be doing this round
@@skell6134 and this is super fun lol. Now it makes sense. but this is not bad. You can even make it completely random. I wish there was a random button, it would be so much fun.
@@skell6134 I have more than 12k expm with murder.
waterfall dust sans is the campiest sans i have ever seen as a majn myself i can confirm
Fow who hasax negatale sans you foeogt reverse and advantage it will more funny
cannot agree more my friend
ew, bot voice.
we got beef now my main little tale and you talk smak at the beginning??!?!