I found this video today & I can sadly say that in 2022, none of this has changed. I worked as a teacher for 1.5 years & had to quit mid-semester after suffering a heart attack in front of a group of students who were behaving terribly (I'm 29 btw). My boss & even their parents said that I was the only one at fault for their behavior because I was "too strict" (asking them to participate in class, do work, not insult each other, the basics) but then also complained that I "wasn't giving class" (honestly, I tried but many times, I had to halt entire lessons just to stop students from physically assaulting each other). This was on top of comments about my race/ethnicity, my marital status, medical problems...It felt like I was going insane with no support & that things just kept getting worse. All I felt was frustration, sadness & regret by that point. Looking back at it now, I like teaching despite all of this. I like helping students grow and learn more about the world around them. I just wish that I could have the chance to do this in an environment where there was support from both the administration & the community towards teachers. It's scary to think that these kids are our future; being raised in such a way that they lack accountability, responsibility & even empathy towards others. They act entitled & manipulative towards those around them which makes me wonder: what will happen the day that they don't get their way?
@@proudatheist2042 It's horrible but at least I got out. I was hoping that my replacement would have an easier time but it seems that they're just escalating with the behavior now.
Children want boundaries but at the same time if there are none set they want to see how far till someone or something pushes back. We raising monsters and in the future life is going to push back hard on those now adults and it will not be pretty! I already see it in kids just out of University and they have no clue.
I remember when I first started school and my mom kept it real with me. She said that if I was being treated unfairly then she would be in my corner but she also made it clear that if I am disrespectful to any adult or if I disrupt class in any way, I would be in big trouble. Parents need to make that known to their kids.
Thing is..a lot of these kids aren't being raised. They're just being had. Like they're accessories or something. These parents don't care what these kids turn into, and just let them into the world as is
This is too true. My mom works at a charter school and the amount of parents she deals with that just do not care about their children is gut wrenching. And as a Zillennial, a lot of my peers are following this same trajectory but at an even more accelerated rate. Children being born in Gen Alpha are nothing but sources of internet clout for their Zoomer parents and they don't get the actual love and attention they need. It's so sad.
I worked at Sephora back in 2006-2011 and we used to get the most godawful parents and kids in there that would wreck entire displays, thousands of dollars of merchandise, and the parents would just walk away without a peep. I would say the same thing to my fellow cast members, that these parents are having kids as a thing to do, like it’s obligatory or “fun” and then not following through on being actual parents. Same thing when I saw some people my age having kids, then doing elaborate photo shoots with them, getting designer clothes for the kids, but then when you saw them in person they would literally just ignore them even if they were throwing a fit or wanting affection. The parents couldn’t care less, just handed them iPads and went on back to doing whatever. They couldn’t be bothered. Welp, now those very same IG accessory kids are now the middle schoolers and high schoolers I was teaching the last 5 years. They have turned out exactly like I thought they would, and the parents are just as insufferable now as they were back when I worked in retail. I’m so glad I never wanted kids because I could never willingly interact with parents like that on a regular, personal basis. And I’m even more glad that I got let go in May after teaching for those 5 years. Not sure what I’ll do next, but it sure as hell won’t be teaching.
As a student I’m honestly quite appalled by my peers. Back in Junior high a student in my Spanish class drove the substitute to tears and when she threatened to send him to the principal he refused, cussed at her, and told her that she wasn’t allowed in the classroom anymore. I feel horrible for teachers in this age.
Funny you should mention that. In my spanish class back in high school our substitute teacher was also driven to tears because the boys would always tease her in a sexually indicative way, which made the teacher incredibly uncomfortable. I went to an international school in the 2000s in the Philippines, and it was pretty chill from my perspective as a student. I wonder how it is now though.
My kids go to a Catholic school and we have new students this year who act like this. Administration is taking everyone who applies, even kids who were expelled from their other schools.
@@snowps1 Yeah, that happened one year when more than half of the 6th Graders at my former parochial school arrived at the school midway through the school year. I was like, something's really wrong here. It's one thing to get a wave of all new students at the beginning of a school year. But in the middle of the year?! Needless to say, every one of those students was disruptive and defiant. And the Principal did absolutely nothing about it. She even said to all of us middle school teachers, "We'll just have to suffer with them until they graduate." Wow. Such incompetence!
Here's something crazy for y'all: when I was 7 years old (almost 30 years ago) the teacher would enter the classroom before the lesson, and all the children stood up (no questions asked), greeted the teacher and waited for her to let us sit down. Everybody did it. Can you imagine.
Well something's going to have to go on because I can't even get myself to barely go back to substitute teaching and no one wants to do any of it so we're going to have a big problem with all this
Students still greet teachers today in south east asian schools. Seems like a poor culture of raising children in the United States. Never seen a student ever openly badmouth a teacher to their face, let alone get in physical fights.
@@yujiakweh it’s not just the US. I just read another comment on this video about a teacher from Spain who also had to deal with problem students. He brought up the fact that the students don’t respect authority and was fired the next day.
@@Hyper_Drud I'm from the Czech Republic, and the kids are still doing this here. Sure, we have a few cases of teacher bullying (but that's talked about in nationwide television news, so imagine how rare it is) but no one can afford to attack teachers, without consequences. Of course, this is just an overall simplification. But even so, what's happening in the US seems crazy to me!
As a teacher of 28 years I can say that you are 100% correct. Year after year I tried so many behavior strategies. I never had support from administration. Whenever a child misbehaved it was always my fault. After 25 years a student made up a complete lie about me and had all of his friends back him up. He and his friends had terrible behavior records. A few students in the class who were really good kids told the administration that the other kids were lying. It didn’t matter. A substitute teacher overheard the bad kids say that they had planned the whole thing. The substitute was quickly fired. The administration forced me to resign. I moved to a charter school where children are expected to be polite and work hard for their grades. I now have 98% parent support. It has made all of the difference in the world. I wish I knew schools like this existed sooner.
Glad you found something that works better. That prioradmin should be replaced. Go to school board meetings, make this lack of support known. Over and over if necessary.
Also, schools won't discipline or have consequences for students at all. They do "restorative circles" so no one's feelings are hurt. Then they return to class knowing they just manipulated the shit out of everyone. That's what they're learning.
Lmao my schools policy is also literally called "restorative circles" and the funny thing is the counselors never come to facilitate them when they know incidents have happened
I agree and i realized we’re going to have a generation of people who are going to be master manipulators. Because they aren’t learning to be better people they are learning how to manipulate the system. Its really society fault because for some reason we lack accountability more soo than usual
We’ve had students threaten to shoot up the school. Students doing sexual things in bathroom. One female student has been going around grabbing genitals. They did NOT have consequences. The administration acts like they are afraid of parents or just don’t care.
They're worst before and they're even much, much worst now. I graduated Education with a degree and a license but when a pandemic hit I stop pursuing it since I don't feel the spark of teaching with rude students, snake teachers and unreasonable admin.
BAD is an understatement. Our society will fail because we are not willing to even NAME what is wrong. Thank you for your courage to do so despite the hate that arises from it...
Liberalism is killing society and making us more degenerate. Funny thing is, most of these teachers nowadays are also liberals kind of nudging their student’s towards that direction
I’m an older gen z and I noticed this behavior in my peers when I graduated high school 6 years ago. My mom wouldn’t tolerate any of the behavior I see kids doing now 💀
Same here. My mom would regularly let me know that if she ever found out that I was acting the way some of these other kids were, my “ass was grass” 😂😂😂 it worked. You’ve got to teach your kids discipline
Definitely also an older gen z. I had close friends saying the nastiest stuff about teachers and then smile in class. My mother raised me to respect authorities because hey, you have lived here and probably know more about life than me, I am going to give elders and authorities the benefit of the doubt, and that benefit is called "respect". But my peers just didn't respect anyone. And when I met their parents I could understand where their behavior came from.
@@lauren6509 I graduated in 2016. I remember my senior year in my ceramics class one of the underclassmen threw clay at my teacher. I know she does not get paid enough to deal with that shit. IDK how these kids are going to become functioning members of society some day, they never face consequences for their actions, and expect it to stay that way when they get into the real world
I'm not an older gen z, I graduated 2020 and honestly same... my peers have been nothing but disrespectful to teachers, and if it was a substitute it was worse. One student put hand sanitizer in one of our math teachers coffee and he got real sick. This makes me nervous thinking about how some of us are going to continue on in the future.
You guys got really screwed. I was raised to be tough and self-reliant, respectful and kind, but also honest and fair - like everyone in my family was. I'm more grateful for that everyday that goes by. Not having been raised that way, a lot of you will never be able to do those things, and those of you who do will have to work a lot harder and it'll hurt a lot more.
I overcame all the teacher problems by leaving the profession. It just isn't worth destroying your mental health for any pay check. No amount is worth it to work with and for abusive people.
Totally agree! I did a career change into teaching, and less than 1 year after getting my credential I'm ready to go back into the line of work I had prior to earning my credential.
It all comes down to PARENTING. Kids will behave how their parents allow them to. Parents are supposed to provide guidance and discipline (which is hard) along with love and affection (the easy part).
It may be untreated mental health issues too. A lot of the kids that frustrated me in school with this behavior turned out to be neurodivergent. Or maybe their parents are so strict the only place they feel they can be themselves is school.
@@HopeGardner3amed This! I was abused at home with extremely religious strict parents. Another thing I struggled with is undiagnosed bipolar disorder so I was extremely fidgety at times and if a teach was rude to me I wasn't going to let it go for the rest of the year. I'd had about enough at that point in my life with most authority figures mistreating me, that being in school was difficult. I had some good teachers who encouraged me and were kind, and I'll always remember that.
And some of those mental issues start at home too. Not popular to say but I find so many kids are not nurtured enough in infancy because parents are either over worked or absent due to their own issues. These kids act out to get the attention they didn't get at home. They need to have solid relationships with a loving parent in order to have basic social skills for school.
Jordon Petersen make a really good point when he said, 'don't let your children do anything that causes you to dislike them.' As a parent you're preparing your children to go out into the world. If they have not been trained, disciplined, sooner or later they'll get themselves into trouble in society they must engage with. If you're the parent, and you don't like your child due to their behavior, just think how the rest of the world will be seeing them.
My kids became more disrespectful and rude once starting school and my son thinks that he must get rewarded for good behavior at home because a lot of his teachers in the schools where I live give prizes for good behavior. I’m constantly telling my son that being a good person and following rules doesn’t always get you rewards. I believe a lot of this genZ behavior is learned from each other more then the home in most cases not saying parents are completely blameless. I don’t allow my kids on social media because it’s just a breeding ground of disrespect, pushing of stupid and sometimes dangerous trends,bullying, and hate. And so many parents look at me weirdly because I don’t let my kids on social media or let them watch certain movies or tv or play certain video games.
Good job with the social media, you sound like a good parent. I don’t know about Snapchat and Instagram and stuff like that, but everything I hear about Twitter is that it’s a cesspool. I don’t even really know what the point of them are. To me, talking at school was enough. To others who are more social, maybe throw in group chats and texting.
While I commend you on your efforts to raise a decent person (your child, or children), I hate to be the bearer of bad news insomuch that in many areas of the USA, social engineering constructs have been in place for awhile now. This affects all of us either directly or indirectly. I suspect the "giving prizes for good behavior" is mere social conditioning of the masses when the social credit system is implemented... "snitching" on others will be deemed good behavior and rewarded accordingly for example.
Kudos for actually playing a role in your kids upbringing and the media they consume, you'd be surprised how many parents are just letting their kids do anything they want without any supervision, letting media raise their children.
I’m older Gen Z, and I have seen a ton of the behaviors you mentioned during my lifeguarding jobs. Especially the disregard to authority, debating the rules, and parents arguing their kid can be the exception to the rules that are meant to keep everyone safe. I was lucky because my managers were really good and didn’t let difficult patrons walk all over us, so I can’t imagine how difficult it is to have a job where management will side against you or not believe you.
I remember a few years ago I got a call from one of my kids teachers. A kid was bothering mine during a lecture and finally my kid snapped at him(the other kid) and cussed him out in front of the class. Both kids got removed. The instigator got punished mine just got fussed at. So the teacher calls me to explain the situation. I listen quietly while the teacher is hemming and hawing and sounds soooo uncomfortable. After the explanation I thanked him for letting me know and I would talk to my kid about dropping f bombs in class. I will never forget the huge sigh of relief this guy made. It sounded like a load of weight just lifted off his shoulders and I thought he was going to start crying. I truly believe he thought I was going to scream at him or something. I can't fathom what teachers go through and they have my respect.
I worked with babies and toddlers before and just calling parents to say the kid had a fever and had to go home was risking getting yelled at and having a parent dislike you for weeks
It just seems to be reflecting society in general these days. Entitled parents raise entitled kids. Entitlement leads to things like a lack of work ethic, defiance, being opinionated, etc. People expect to be coddled and validated instead of working through adversity, especially when they're in the wrong.
This is what I’m thinking when all of these people say “it’s the parents”, true, but who raised the parents. American society is vile. The internet has bled into real life. I see 40 and 50 year olds working retail who are awful people, genuinely.
@jasminewilliams1673 Yes!! "Children are a map of their parents." And looking at today's parents, I'd say their parents failed them miserably. Not to point fingers, but I'm looking at you, Gen X and Boomers. A lot of you are raising your grandchildren because you failed to raise your own children properly. Learn from your mistakes and raise those grandchildren correctly or you'll be raising your great-grandchildren, too.
I was a first year teacher last year and saw most of the things you brought up. One of the big things for me was that a lot of students were not just disinterested in what I was teaching but were fully apathetic or even just hated it. It's something that went beyond the standard "When will we ever use this?" and verntured into almost straight up anti-intellectualism. In my mind that's one of the worst things. To work on a lesson and go up there and teach it with all the passion you got and look up to a bunch of blank stares. I guess I saw the writing on the wall because I am not a teacher this year.
My generation definitely has a lot of misguided nihilism. I mean you're dealing with climate change, covid, our capitol being invaded by angry adults, happening all around you and being able to see that whenever you want on you're phone. While also being a kid and not understanding how to process it. Where I'm from a lot of kids have to deal with the threat of absolute poverty, racism, sexism and homophobia both in the real world and virtually. And the usual teenage woes of abusive parents, anxiety, undiagnosed mental problems, low self esteem and stupid decision (drug use, sex, violence) because your still a stupid kid. While at the same time being told were to sensitive and we have it easy. That we should forget about all of that and focus on school. We should be grateful for even being alive. That's not an excuse, just a possible explanation for why learning is taking a backseat in some of these kids minds.
@@johnindigo5477 I don't know if that's the whole story. Look at what the Baby Boom generation in the US had to deal with in the 60s: The Cold War and the threat of nuclear annihilation Being drafted to fight in the Vietnam War Jim Crow Assassinations of politicians, civil rights leaders, and revolutionaries For the first time, you could see all of this instantaneously by just turning on the TV Homosexuality classified as a mental disorder And yet in spite of all these social problems, students respected teachers more and put in more effort. I have a sincere question for you, one that I don't know how to answer. Why do social problems cause school problems now, but not then?
Honestly, my class starts to cause problems mainly when the teacher is bored with his own subject (the teacher looks out the window for an hour or looks at the phone when we rewrite what we already have in the textbook) or when he can't explain. On the contrary, teachers who are passionate about their subject will receive a completely different attention (of course, if someone does not like math, the best teacher will not help.) Then there are cases where the teacher is enthusiastic about his subject, but can not pass it properly. That's the worst. For both teachers and students. But it was interesting to watch it in my class now. The old teacher went on vacation. His lessons were very monotonous and lifeless, because he basically just gave us a presentation on the board and had us write it down. His lessons were in the middle of the day, and the class was quite inattentive and at times disturbing. The new teacher used his presentation out of respect, but she gave us a lesson in a completely different way. She involved the class in discussions, described differences in monuments, added explanations of terms. And the lessons moved to zero (they were an hour earlier than school normally started). Despite the bad timing of the lesson (we don't normally pay much attention in the morning), the whole class was exemplary and enthusiastic. We honestly don't want our old teacher back. Some people just can't learn. Of course, this may not be your case, but it is something to keep in mind. Not everyone is a good teacher, it's not enough to just love your subject.
@@johnindigo5477 yeah you nailed it. Gen z has a general distrust of the future because they grew up with access to recordings of the futility of activism trying to get genuine good change to happen
I had some brutally messed up students. Their parents were negligent or abusive, and putting those kids in my class was like setting off a bomb. No one was able to function. This was 15 years ago. I left, took my young kids out, and we joined a classical homeschooling community until my kids left for college. I taught privately for 8 years in that community to AMAZING kids raised by loving parents. They were so respectful to me (except two out of about 80 kids). My kids were surrounded by great kids and it really shaped them. They are now in college or graduated and married. GET OUT IF YOU CAN!! My kids thrived and so did I. Best teaching experience. I miss it.
That sounds amazing! Out of curiosity, how big were the groups you would teach I this community? Or did the children have their lessons individually? I'm not too familiar with homeschooling practices
@@drakirolopez7859 Yes, ignorance and anti intellectualism is so good for society /s Parents complain but I don't see them doing a better job of teaching their children or instilling in them how important education and just knowledge in general is.
After Covid, I've seen a huge decline in the social skills of my students. Teaching is already a stressful job. So many teachers quit. I think what most people don't understand is that teachers don't get to clock out. They constantly think about their lessons, admin, etc....when out of school. It is actually a very demanding job
Yes, teaching is a much harder job than many people think. The unfortunate thing is that teaching LOOKS easy to those on the outside looking in. But it's NOT easy. Outsiders don't see everything we do, or how long it takes, or how much work it actually is.
I am a young teacher and I cannot believe how much has changed since I left my K-12 education. Students say things to me on a daily basis that nobody would have dreamed of saying to a teacher "back in my day." And where. are. the. PARENTS!
Omg I know, I'm a TA for prek-1st, they all have smart watches and call their moms for everything and have AD(H)D attention spans because they're used to being on ipads for hours on end
Both the parents are too busy working. Hard to have a single income household in this economy, especially with kids. I feel like that's what's going unsaid in this video. That attention seeking rebellious behavior is a result of parents not paying proper attention to their kids. I had a friend growing up who was an absolute nightmare to have in class and it was all because her parents neglected her.
@@drakirolopez7859 lolol that’s another think that has changed. And your comment goes to show how out of touch non teachers are in regard to what goes on in the classroom.
There was a school district I worked at - the principal's office was a revolving door. Nothing seemed to change about the students who went in there and came out again. I was called to some of the student-principal meetings, and the principal asked the student every time, "What can (my name) do better to help you?" She said it every time without fail, and it seemed that she was targeting me and failing to target the student's behavior. In the assigned book for new teachers at that district, the book explained that every time a student misbehaves, it is partially the teacher's fault - this is complete bunk, as there is a growing maliciousness in students' refusal to comply. Also at that school - there was a student who was taller than I was, and he used his height to intimidate me each time I called him out for his behavior. Then he had the gall to say I was unfairly targeting him when I asked him to stop talking. Another school - a student kept talking through the Zoom meeting we were using for class during COVID. He refused to stop, even when asked several times. I eventually had to block him from talking by removing him from the Zoom meet and adding him back whenever he was more compliant. His mother sat right next to him, and could have prevented him from talking out of turn - instead, she chose to threaten the school district (and me) with a lawsuit (on Facebook) because I showed a video for children about Halloween superstitions - this was a seasonal add-on for a unit we had finished on fairy tales. Later, she started (loudly) participating during a social studies class (on Zoom) where I quizzed students on famous landmarks. It was her way of letting me know she was there, watching me and the class - well, watch me walk away. At another district, a student refuses to comply with the simplest instructions, and trashes the room when he doesn't get what he wants. He broke something that was on my desk that cost $100 (I was using it as part of an afterschool program, and I bought it with my own money). I haven't heard a word from his parents or from the administration about replacing it. This is my last year - my initial license expires at the end of the current school year. I am going to grad school in the fall - not for a Master's in education, but for a science discipline so I can become a researcher, museum worker, or an industry consultant. My personality is not suited to teaching, let alone battling a four-pronged assault by students, parents, administrators, and other teachers. It struck me today - there was only one set of parents who ever asked me the question, "What can we do at home to help support our child?" Five years of teaching, and only one set of parents cared to ask that question.
YES! Why is this they way things are. Students don't seem to feel any shame for their disrespect. They just complain that teachers are awful and mean, and need to change. And then principals side with the students - WHAT HAS HAPPENED?! I really don't get it.
@Big Dog I have worked at an elementary school now for 7 years...I have been an aide in 2nd - 4th grade classrooms, so I have had the pleasure of working alongside some great teachers. Unless you are a teacher or a classroom aide you have no idea what teachers have to put up with. They want to teach...they want the kids that they do teach to be successful in life. They understand that different kids learn in different ways. But when you have a kid that will sit and totally not pick up a pencil, or do their classwork, or act out and cause a disruption while the teacher is trying to teach it can be difficult. If the kids go through their school years being disrespectful, not wanting to do their classwork or homework, what do you think is going to happen to them when they get out into the real world? I went to elementary school in the late 60's. I can tell you that we would have never have dreamed of acting out in class the way these kids are doing. These kids are given many chances to make good choices before they even make it to the principals office. When I went to school the students knew that if they misbehaved in class the teacher would send them to the principals office...we were not given all of these chances to disrupt the learning of other students. Don't get me wrong...there are a lot of wonderful kids and parents out there. I enjoyed being with the students...watching them learn...and just talking with them. But I knew I would burn out if I tried to become a teacher. Believe me trying to teach and keep 25 kids engaged, when you also have to try and manage kids not behaving is a very hard job....so please don't judge teachers unless you have been one yourself or worked in a classroom.
My mother has been a high school teacher for over 25 years now and she says student anxiety has also gone through the roof. Due to covid, her school has had no exams for 3 years and some teachers are arguing there should be none at all. At the first mention of a test, many students panic. "You mean I can't use a phone? I can't do it with my friend? I have to study? I don't know how to do that!" They have no confidence in their own ability to do work because they've never had to do any. On the other hand, they see the exams as this looming 'If you fail this exam or this class you are doomed for life and will never go to university or amount to anything!' But high school is the perfect time to fail an exam or a class before there are bigger real life consequences. It's nearly impossible to fail a class anyways. The students are scared and feel helpless to help themselves acheive. Adults have done this to them and it's sad.
I almost failed out of high school but graduated Summa Cum Laude from university. You couldn't have PAID me to lift a finger in high school. When I began university I discovered that learning could be interesting when a professor was. (And I didn't have to bother with nuisance courses such as math and science, which I could simply take Pass/Fail.) The mediocrities who teach high school--and have, since high school was invented--are the real reason students don't learn.
I can’t imagine why other teachers would argue for no exams at all. What’s going to happen to these kids when they get to college then? They won’t be prepared at all and it’s very possible to fail a college course.
@@frankiec3659 Yes, you'd think the problem of "what about college?" would be obvious to a group of people who themselves had to go to university. However this doesn't seem to be the case. Some argue that exams don't accurately prove a student knows anything anyways, just that they're good at taking tests. Test taking 'doesn't suit the learning style of all children' after all so "let's do projects and essays to measure knowledge instead." Which can work well for a subject like English, not so well for a subject like math. No one wants to accept the reality that some kids just don't have much aptitude for certain subjects (like math) and hope that evaluations with more subjective grading can help everyone get that A. Others argue that at 18, they'll finally be 'old enough' to handle the stresses and requirements of exam prep. But the whole reason you have kids write exams in middle and high school is so that they develop exam skills and confidence before their GPA and tuition fees are on the line. I guess a decade from now teachers in university can be the ones to sit down and talk about how exams are useless and too scary for 'the kids'. Maybe we should put them off until 30, because they'll be ready to handle it then? I don't know.
@@fangirl7914 k-12 isn't a massive college prep though. We as a society have been fooled into thinking that a 4-year college education is essential to have in the workforce even though A. most people don't even use their degree after university and B. most developed nations operate just fine without the majority of their population is college-educated.
In my experience, the core problem isn't the bad students, but parents who aren't adequately parenting and admin that is not adequately administrating. Combined, that stuff encourages bad behavior, and encourages it to spread. It leads directly to lack of respect for legitimate authority.
@Cassandra Tafoya Yes, it is developmentally normal for kids to test boundaries, but it is important for parents and administrators to also limit how far they push by creating certain boundaries, and setting expectations, with positive reinforcements and related consequences. YES teachers absolutely need to be allowed to set healthy boundaries and create reasonable expectations of behavior that lead to growth! But without parents and administrators backing them up, they are 98% hamstrung and will likely just burn out. It is awful. So, can your students complain to you that this is too much homework? Yes. But not endlessly. It would be more fruitful for them be involved in brainstorming ways to make *some* work done outside the class more effective or interesting, with teacher having the final say, of course. And if a student still refuses to do a reasonable amount of homework, even after the teacher engages and tries to find out the problem, the natural consequence is a proportionally lower grade. If a parent comes to the teacher and says, I had no idea he was throwing out his homework, is there an online portal where I can see the assignments? That's constructive! If a parent says, I will try to enforce homework from now on, but is there any way at all she could do makeup work to improve her grade before the quarter ends? That is constructive! When a parent comes in and bullies a teacher about the low grade, or simply doesn't show up at all because they just don't care (or are working poor or in crisis and don't have the bandwidth to even address the problem) all of that is corrosive and makes the teacher's job nearly impossible. If a teacher is bullied by parents for the low grade and administration does not back the teacher up, that is TOXIC. If students constantly disrupt class and aren't removed, or they threaten or put their hands on or repeatedly insult the teacher or other students, or leave the room without permission, And they are not redirected and corrected in effective and meaningful ways by parents or admin, that is TOXIC. If that happens too much, that teacher will eventually just burn out!
Not sure why this video was recommended to me, considering the fact that I'm of gen z(2002), but I honestly agree with you. I'm in my first year of college now, but I noticed soooo much of what you pointed out in my middle and high school years, that it's funny. I especially agree in regards to respecting authority, rudeness, and a lack of work ethic. Students argued with teachers all the time over the smallest of small things. They would be rude and get sent out of class happily like they were proud of what they did, as well as pull out the ol' "go ahead, call my mama, I don't care!" Lastly, that work ethic is just non existent for a lot of people my age, whether it be in school or even at work. I often find myself relating more to millennials I've met through work than most my own age. Anyway, It's not all of us and I hope things get better. Live strong!
Holy crap she’s 1000% right. And this past Saturday morning, I texted 68 families homes to inform them that their students are missing so much work and that they have till Sunday night at midnight to get it all done so I can grade one last time before progress reports. It took nearly two hours just to send all of the texts. Especially once a few parents began to text back. By Sat night at 7 I had 57 assignments submitted. Things that should have been submitted over the previous month and where I’d given 5 days of make up time over the five weeks previous. It’s disgusting how few assignments were turned in. I’m thinking to text for the next few weekends if the students don’t do their work during class time. I’m so sick of student apathy and complacency. I really almost want them to fire me over my other status due to Biden’s mandate. I’ll sell my house and go live off grid without owing anyone anything. Only 4 student’s parents responded which is surprising. One argued what type of assignments they are. Which is still amazing. Right now, besides last year, these are the easiest years for students in my 25 yrs of teaching. Their work is far less than years past-and they don’t want to do that. It’s ridiculous! Sad cause man, how I love teaching literature and writing.
I can relate so much! I did find that texting parents helped a lot although it was a lot of work on the front end & parents often didn't reply back, but then assignments started rolling in. I used Google Voice to text so that I had a record of the conversations, and I could easily copy & paste responses. It also protected my true cell phone number. :) I know how hard it is to love your subject and have kids totally ignore it; I think that is especially true for English and Literature subjects these days. I think you are doing a great job, and Kuddos to you for staying in for 25 years that is incredible!
Oh yeah! I tell my students, "When I was your age, I had new homework assignments every night that were due the next day. No extensions. No excuses. And we EARNED our good grades. No freebies."
I am a new teacher and am feeling everything you said. I also find it important that this video was before Covid hit. Everyone in the field wants to blame covid for the behavior but it MUST be more than that. There is so much laziness. Headphones in all the time, entitlement, and ignoring teachers. It is crazy how disrespectful students are these days.
It is crazy that kids can sit in class with headphones on, listening to/watching something on their phones, and all teachers can do is ASK them to stop and pay attention, with no consequences for not complying. Teachers are supposed to be glad the kids are not disrupting or harming other students. Students are begging for limits and admin/school board says no.
Yes. Schools have spent all this money on 'technology' so their kids can have the 'best' education. The technology is part of the problem. Kids use it to be lazy, cheat, and share inappropriate things. They aren't learning to research with it. Phones and technology in the classroom are used poorly. It's toxic to give a child an iPhone.
What I remember in high school was that whenever the phone issue got bad in any of my classes, teachers would have every student's phone taken at the beginning of class and then returned in the end of class for the rest of the school year. It worked pretty well (I graduated in 2018, so maybe this isn't relevant if you're doing Zoom classes, if the school district you work at still has them). I think it's fair because kids shouldn't really be using their phones during lectures or while doing assignments anyway, and as long as the kids got their phones back at the end of class, hardly anyone complained. I sure didn't care, and I actually noticed that more kids were getting their work done. Honestly, I feel like it was the only method that worked (or at least the only one I've seen teachers use that has worked). I respect you for having the patience to deal with them. Those kind of kids need to be humbled. I also wish that schools made it a rule where all kids were required to leave their phones with each teacher until the end of class. I honestly think that's the number one biggest thing that's stopping students from focusing on their work or their teacher's lectures. I'm not saying that the students will be perfect, but it would reduce a lot of issues. Plus I'd imagine that it will encourage more kids to be social as well.
Why do they have to automatically respect you? Because you're an "authority figure"? F that! What have you done to try to connect with them and earn their respect? Sounds like your the one that needs to grow up...
@@shadowdemon2272 Uh, because they're the people who are trying to prepare you for adulthood? Good luck getting anywhere in life with that kind of attitude. See how long you last at a job. You're the one who needs to grow up.
god, as a grade school kid with a shitty chaotic home life, i needed structure at school so badly. i grew up having the same classmates every year from first grade to high school with teachers who gave a shit and were teaching in a real world classroom. i still had issues, but being in a stable environment with rules and other well-behaved kids was absolutely crucial for me and i'd have been lost without them. i'm sure a lot of kids today didn't choose the sort of behaviour you've experienced, it's just what they've picked up to get along. not an excuse, just saying this is what some of these kids have done to fend for themselves at home, in their social lives and, now at school.
I wonder how much of what is going on is overcompensation: Blind obedience is bad, so NEVER obey. Getting no compensation for work is bad, so ALWAYS expect reward. "Noone will look out for you, so look out for yourself!". Somewhere in there, the actual lesson the kids should have is sadly lost: Question authoriuty when needed, but accept it when valid. Don't just work "for the experience" for the big corporation while you can barely pay for food, but grab what learning opportunities you get. This balance is HARD... and the current state is maximum pushback against the teachers. I feel for you! But let's give this generation a chance: they may just find their way in the end, like all of us did!
I commend the majority of what you said. However, I disagree on with your "find their way in the end, like all of us did!" Because there are people our ages and older that have always placed themselves in dire situations. Not everyone "gets on their feet" well.
I NEVER yelled at a teacher nor spit, throw stuff etc. Its called basic respect for all humans. Manners are important at every age, WHY IS IT OK FOR KIDS TO MISBEHAVE AND DO WHATEVER TF THEY WANT WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. That is NOT good, having that attitude with result in so much chaos in the future.
The kids’ behavior can be controlled if the school admin supports teachers by establishing a culture that doesn’t tolerate disrespect…. But if the school is scared of the district or parents things can get bad.
I worked in a reform school for 6 yrs and a big part of the problem is that when a kid does something wrong and the school disciplines them ..the parent will come to the school and threaten the school for trying to the right thing by the kid
@@nomadprofessor4314 Yup. They did. And I stated that if the parent -- who controls the TV, the internet, the clothes, and the food -- can't get their kids to do any work, what hope does the teacher have?
No you don't. It'll be a massively negative impact on society as a whole. Edit: full disclosure, I don't think any parent should be inherently trusted to raise a child, they should have to prove that they can do as the job as well as the average qualified childcare provider.
Student misbehavior had grown exponentially worse since around 2000. I’ve tried everything that’s legal. My only solution is to run away. The education system has moved from education to indoctrination. We are screwed
This is interesting as I just commented how I recently watched the Woodstock 99 doc on hbo, and thought to myself well if these are the people who now have gen z kids, it makes sense. The theme of the entire doc was essentially 350k crowd giving a big ol fuck you to any authority.
People seem so hostile to the concept of generational differences - I can't count how many times I've seen people bring up the quote from Plato about the youth of his day being unruly (over 2000 years ago). Guess what, Plato's children didn't have social media and 24/7 access to the internet. Generational differences have to be an open topic when society and social interaction itself is changing so rapidly and unpredictably for the past 30 years.
But the elephant in the room isn’t that generational differences exist, it’s the blatant disrespect and unwillingness to accept authority or directives from those that have authority over you (adults/teachers). 2000 years ago and 2000 years from now, students will still need to take and heed directions from authorities.
This is a huge part of why I homeschool my kids. I really do not want my children growing up around all of these kids with zero manners. If my kids were in school, I would never in a million years side with THEM over the teacher in circumstances like you mention. That's so, so insane to me.
Yes! I worry that all of my hard work teaching manners and respect would be wiped out so quickly if I let my children in public school. I honestly believe that homeschooling is the only option at this point.
As a Gen Z kid who is now studying to be a teacher, I think people misunderstand my generation a lot. I myself have experienced a stark difference at home and school, but perhaps not in the way older folks expect. My parents had rules and they had punishments, but above all I knew I could talk to them and my opinion would be respected. If I felt something was unfair, I could ask why I needed to do it and my parents would actually explain the purpose of the thing, as opposed to just telling me to do it. They gave me reasons to find motivation to complete a task, rather than force me to complete a task regardless. I have never met a teacher that took kindly to me asking why. Especially as a neurodivergent kid, having a teacher who would just tell me that I had to do something because I had to without actually explaining the reasoning behind it made me incredibly frustrated. Certain teachers believed they were owed total obedience and respect without demonstrating that they deserved it. I respect my parents because they treat me like a person, not because “they’re my parents and they’re going to kill me if I don’t”. I get that can sound like entitlement from the outside, but it’s a matter of being treated like I have value. Children are not soldiers, they are learning to be adults, and if they’re taught that their opinion doesn’t matter, they’re never going to find the intrinsic motivation to work on schoolwork, let alone the motivation to work in the "real world". As a kid with dyslexia, my sister had a much harder time than me, and she would constantly ask why she had to care about school. No one could give her a good reason why, since we knew dyslexic people who worked in construction and they led fairly successful lives. She knew that she could manage without college if she really tried, so she didn’t invest her energy in school. The only reason she cares about schoolwork now is because she goes to a specialized art school, where her reading load has been cut down and assignments are more creative. Because the core (English, math, etc.) teachers know the students are here for art first and foremost, they make it a point to teach kids things that apply to their interests and make a case for the usefulness of their classes. Geometry is necessary for sculpting, English is a great tool for analysis and another form of art, history can be inspiration and a lesson, and so on and so forth. I don’t mean to disrespect any teachers who have struggled because of badly-behaved kids, I know it can be incredibly difficult to hold kids accountable. I’ve also learned from my own experience that bad kids are never held accountable, whether from a teacher’s side or a student’s side. When my elementary and middle schools noticed I was being bullied constantly, I was sent to school “counseling," where I was told that if I ignored the hurtful comments and walked away when someone started a fight, my bullies would stop. When I asked teachers for help, they usually declined. Whether it was because they knew that admin wouldn’t help or they just didn’t see it as a problem, I learned that adults do not uphold their end of the authority bargain to keep kids safe. When I was isolated and ignored by a former best friend and 40 of our 66 classmates, no one noticed or cared until I did something to retaliate that was more visible. All I did was write “I hate you” in our shared locker on a whiteboard I had brought, a sentiment I had expressed to her in person before without consequence, but that was enough to make teachers take action against me and isolate me further as a “problem child”. My own life aside, I understand why teaching kids from my generation can be so frustrating, but please don’t call us “lazy”, or “entitled”. It’s hard to respect adults who can’t help us in times of need, whether they want to or not, and it’s made all the more difficult by early experiences with bad teachers. edit: I wrote this late at night, so I tried to fix spelling errors and clarify a few things.
Older generations tended to belittle children like they have no capability of understanding so you get the, "do as I say, don't ask questions or else." We (genx and millennials) were raised to be people pleasers and yes-men under the threat of physical punishment. Luckily it looks like we're generally doing the opposite style of parenting compared to how we were raised. The way you describe your parents is exactly how I raise my kids.
I am older than Gen Z and have taught High Schoolers and I agree. Older generations need to realize that kids are people as well and so on. I also think a lot of this is teachers not being properly supported both financially and politically! There is so much pressure on teachers to both teach, raise, and etc. but yet they are constantly ridiculed by conservative media and a lack of infrastructure in general. I think this sometimes gets taken out on students when it shouldn't. It all boils down to what feels like generational growing pains (gen x and mill'ls parenting with patience and compassion) and just teachers not given the support they need to also teach with patience and compassion.
I’m mid-late millennial, graduated high school in 2010, also neuro-divergent. The media has been bashing my generation as a national pastime for two decades and counting. And I’ve never cared for my generation much, and some may have to do with being neuro-divergent and feeling like a strange person. It’s interesting to see an attack piece on Gen Z like this as there aren’t as many in the mainstream media, but rather “how to understand Gen Z”. But this isn’t the only piece that criticizes Gen Z. At that, it stinks to be part of a group that gets vilified, even when the “not all” line occurs. Guess we’re in a similar position being neuro-divergent and on the receiving ends of having our generations criticized (even if all generations have been), and guess you were raised better than most.
I can't say how often I have wanted to ask, "Do you realize you are raising the person who will push your wheel chair, pick your home, food, and clothes a few years down the road? "
But the thing is that these kinds of kids won’t do anything like that for their parents. It’s heinous the way these kids are being raised. It’s detrimental not only to themselves as parents but society as a whole.
@@klinert7693 Perhaps your parents didn’t raise you but parents and teachers who try aren’t successful because the reinforcement by your friends on social media to defy authority. That’s fine if it’s a good cause but the problems she is discussing eventually fall on your generation. Being constantly confrontational and disrespectful to adults is something that will completely handicap you as adults. The education system is way too lenient on this. It’s why I didn’t pursue teaching. I grew up differently. Teachers were highly respected and they mentored me. That’s completely different now. There is no success in life without respecting authority and basic manners. No adult will help you up in the world - promote you, etc., without them. Being rebellious is normal but being cruel and impossible is different. If you don’t respect teachers or anyone else, you won’t respect a boss or a college professor and life will quickly knock you out of the game. You will always serve someone in some capacity. You cannot blame everyone else either. Adults are expected to take responsibility for their behavior. The system in education and parenting is enabling this bad behavior too. Children should not run the show because they can’t. That’s nature - not social choice. Allowing that to happen becomes “Lord of the Flies.” Adults need to guide children but today, social media overrides adult power and gives power to children, whose brains aren’t developed enough to run the show. It’s upside down and out of balance and it’s adults fault but it’s also the responsibility of children to show some level of respect and acknowledgment of rules and social norms. I find this trend very disturbing for your generation-because it will never lead to professional or personal respect and success. Unless you are satisfied with being a retail clerk at Walmart forever-but even there, there are responsibilities and authority. There is no island where only you are in control.
@@edl6398 thats what im trying to say my generation doesn't know what or why there fighting i completely agree with you. i think my gen doesn't know how to avoid conflict because they want some from of attention. I agree phones are certainly a problem if there given before a person is fully developed. i find most people my age just want their own freedom even if its not really freedom, they don't recognize the freedoms they do have within rules. we all know the saying "treat other how you want to be treated" i think my gen focuses on treat others how they treat you even if its disrespectful and that is wrong. we think that we have the right to have the freedom of speech and the freedom of expression and we don't realize we cant have to freedoms till were 18. "The Supreme Court ruled in 1969 that students do not "shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate."" "You have the right to speak out, hand out flyers and petitions, and wear expressive clothing in school - as long as you don’t disrupt the functioning of the school or violate school policies that don’t hinge on the message expressed. What counts as “disruptive” will vary by context, but a school disagreeing with your position or thinking your speech is controversial or in “bad taste” is not enough to qualify." "Schools can have rules that have nothing to do with the message expressed, like dress codes. So, for example, a school can prohibit you from wearing hats - because that rule is not based on what the hats say" -www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/students-rights/ Most of us don't mean to be disrespectful. If anything were most likely standing up for ourselves, for example if we aren't allowed to wear leggings or tank tops i would get in trouble for it but the person next to me wont, so of course i'm going to say something, i suppose disrespectful can mean different things for different people. some one might say being disrespectful is "talking back" or someone else might say its wasting someones time. but it still doesn't give my gen the right to "argue" or debate or trying to understand the thought process behind a certain rule. so on behalf of my delinquent Generation I formally apologize.
SY 2021 here... This is my 10th year of teaching and since the lessons I've learned from my first 2 years of teaching, my classroom management has always been my strength... until this school year. You are absolutely 100% right about everything you discussed in this video. Kids know that there are no serious consequences for anything. It's been a hard year.
Consequences at school are even "impossible" when the parent also works at the school and literally rewards the kid for poor behavior. (I am seeing that this may be the "curse" of private schools. )
@@BobbiGail Oh yeah, private schools are extreme when it comes to student discipline--for better and for worse. Some are really good with it and some flat out SUCK! Private schools play favoritism among their students, teachers, and parents like it's nobody's business. If a family is wealthy they will literally buy their children off and pay the private school extra $$ to give their child special treatment and excuse them from every single rule of academic and social etiquette every single day. And the airhead admin. bow down to it/them! In reality: private schools and public schools are opposite sides of the same coin. They each have their own individual strengths and weaknesses. But in the end, neither institution is truly better or worse than the other. I attended both types of schools growing up and have worked in both types of schools as a teacher.
Thank you for continuing to share your experiences and videos they are far more relatable than you will ever know. As an educator I can certainly agree there has been a weird shift in the overall attitude towards education. Growing up in the late 90s and 2000s, even my peers who weren't "thrilled about learning" at least felt some compulsion to learn. Not the case anymore. Teaching/engaging/entertaining has turned into convincing kids that they should learn.
Thanks for your kind words! I totally agree with everything you said! I had actually turned my channel to private for over a year & I am just coming back today! 😁 I actually left the classroom for good this April and I hope to make a new video on the reasons I finally quit. Thanks for your support and have a great day!! 😄
Can we blame Gen Z for being as they r????? Boomers Failed to care to learn about Global Warming And we r literally watching our world heat up /burn right now. And our politicians ain’t caring enuff to change anything…. If I were Gen Z I’d b jaded. And what about Gen Z watching their parents work harder, b higher educated And they r earning less (in comparison to ‘70’s). While at Same time Billionaires And Huge companies r paying Zero in taxes… I personally can not blame Gen Z for being jaded.
@Julie Lourdes this is the only one i use anyway. I had tiktok but i started to not be able to sit through anything, not even a longer tiktok video so i stopped. I like youtube for a lot of video essays and stuff like that. My only problem is sometimes i am creative and i want people to see it but there really seems to be no way to get it out there. And my problem mostly isnt getting school stuff done its getting literally anything that isnt school done
How are teachers able to actually teach material in an atmosphere like this?!?! This is so disheartening to hear as a parent of a baby. I don’t want her school experience to be like this. Poor teachers.
Thank you for your sympathy, I wish all parents would see a video like this. Believe me, as a teacher (my kids are older 3s), we don't want children to experience school like this either. It's cruel to the well-behaved kids, that their days are constantly disrupted by those who are acting up, and it's cruel to the troubled kids, that they're constantly getting in trouble and are ill-prepared for the real world, because of the adults in their lives--the very people who should be guiding them firmly but lovingly are instead either coddling them or outright ignoring them. 💔 I know it's counterintuitive considering my position as a teacher lol, but I think ideally everyone should be homeschooled. The thing is, obviously this doesn't work in reality. Often, parents can't afford for even one to stay home (assuming it's even a two-parent home in the first place), or, heartbreakingly, "home" just isn't safe for the kids. Since most kids do go to school outside the home, parents and teachers all need to work together to turn society around so that schools are an enriching environment for both the kids and the teachers. If only it were simple enough for a few people to be able to do! Thanks again for your sympathy, it's parents like you that truly make a positive difference in their children's lives, and by extension in their childrens' teachers' days. I hope you're able to homeschool, but if not that's understandable, and I pray that you're able to find a good, nourishing school for your little one! If able to, arrange multiple visits at varying times of day/days of the week, to whichever school(s) you're considering, so you can observe the environment during many situations. Good luck and God bless!
I agree as a student I can see all this happening and it is a shame. As a gen z I think the other part that isn't the internet and social media is our disillusionment with the school. It is so outdated. It was made to make better factory workers in America (when it got required), then with the Cold War it was made to create more scientists to go against the Soviets. Then the sports being everything and if you weren't in sports, your club doesn't matter as much. The school system needs to be updated to help Americans live on their own and find their career in my opinion. That does not mean that teachers should get the brunt of our feelings of fear, stress, entitlement and general feelings of growing up. I am sorry you have to deal with that.
I appreciate your comment. I graduated high school in 2007 and I remember watching this crap bubbling to the surface then. The standardized testing culture is soul killing. I almost didn't make it because the standardized testing processes throughout the year were so damn stressful. It was obvious that many of the teachers didn't want to force us to take those exams but their hands were tied. My mother took a tough love approach and I am glad. I often lost motivation and felt depressed most of the time in the school environment. I wish school didn't become so mechanized. I feel we miss out on the community aspect of school when its so often infiltrated by the government. Of course checks and balances are important but where is the balance?
There’s valid points, but the rest of the world uses this model. While it may not be optimal, it works. Europeans and Asians actually learn under this system and completely crush the United States in international tests like PISA. Kids in the US don’t want to learn-only a very small minority is interested in learning.
@@asimian8500 That is a good point. I hear though that European schools tend to have less school hours and more breaks. Maybe that is the reason kids are doing better.
@@Dudebrointhesky I don’t agree with standardized tests being used solely to see who “is the best student” but I think the tests are useful to see the progress in a general sense of the students, to see that everyone knows the basics. Which is important I think. Yes it is stressful, but nowadays there are so many tools to learn how to deal with stress, we cannot avoid things just because it’s stressful but learn how to deal with the stress.
When you can get accused of almost anything as a teacher, it's time to leave or never go in it. Students can make up anything about you if they don't like you...or worst come to worst they can threaten to have you killed or get somebody to do it.
I had a student try to start a rumor that I was a pedophile. It was nixed quickly, but then the same student started a rumor that a teacher had an Only Fans account. Thankfully admin believed us, but the kid’s still there after a 10-day suspension. I was already speaking with my attorney about recourses for the student’s actions. Kids need to realize that teachers have attorneys too, and we document the crap out of stuff. Nothing will speak volumes like receiving several letters from attorneys asking for your business when mommy and daddy gets sued.
I couldn’t imagine having to teach todays kids. They are very entitled and have no regards for rules and are unfamiliar with consequences. They have these smart phones put in their hands before their brains are even mature enough to process the information they might see on it, and they build their faulty understanding of life based on that. The parents typically don’t monitor what they’re doing and being exposed to.
As a 14 almost 15 year old i can say that our parents want almost nothing to do with us most the time our parents want us to run the household. i think the problem my generation has with rules is that we don't know what rules really are or how they should be applied for example have unspoken random ever-changing rules at home our parents don't tell us about then having a mile long list of unfair and unevenly applied rules at school. most of my friends wish we grew up before people had colored TVs. But I must say school now a days is horrible lesson wise were learning the same thing over and over again year after year, i think our brains just got tired of repeating the same "work" again and again we just gave up on learning. and 90% the time homework is given its something completely different from what we were "learning". And one reason some kids dont do homework is because their so busy with running the household, keeping friendships, caring for younger siblings, going to after school activities, and attempting to do homework we were never taught we are left burnt out. I don't want to make excuses for us but we are just lost.
As a teacher in Spain, I have felt so relieved when I saw your video... You just cant imagine how it has helped me. I understand now it is happening all around the Western world. I've been working in a chattered Catholic school in Spain, the sort of school people greet you when you tell them you've just been hired. I also though I had been incredibly lucky. I attended that high school when I was 17-18 before starting my degree studies. Unfortunately nowadays I can't even recognise it. Students behaviour is appalling, awful, rude, and they lack of sense of respect for their teachers, their peers and the school's maintenance staff. Moreover, they don't understand what the world authority means. I have been working here for 3 months, but I was fired last Friday. I dared to say in the Term Marking meeting (all educators of a certain year course meet to talk about the way students are performing), that our students of a certain year group (11 years) don't know what authority and respect mean. The head of Secondary started shouting at me, and the day after I was fired. Our students beat each other, they have broken 200 toilets seats and 80 tables plus 120 chairs last year, they broke the class wall last month and made a hole bigger than I am. Last month, during a visit to a park nearby, they broke a zip-wire, a swing, a huge sledge, and they threw stones at the ducks of the lake. They killed 6 ducks, and broke the toilet glass window. They do not obey, they do not even listen in most occasions. and the most you can get out of a 50 minutes class is 15 minutes. But I should have not dared to say they don't know what respect means. Allegedly, I've been fired because 2 parents complained about me, so at the end, the boy who is challenging you, knows he actually can fire you.
Your situation sounds terrible; I'm so sorry that you had to endure that awful treatment 😢 Hopefully being released from that school will be a blessing in disguise. I had no idea that there was behavior like that in Spain. In the United States, many of us imagine other countries to be a dream, but you are right, it's definitely a western world problem because I've heard similar stories from many different countries. I hope you are able to find a wonderful job that gives you peace and longevity. ❤
asunagullo honestly it sound like it was a blessing for you to get fired and get out of that horrible situation. I didn't realize it was that bad in Spain as well. I don't have discipline problems, but some of my students are very bold. I really don't like what I do. But honestly, I don't know what else to do at this point.
Oh boy, how accurate you are. I have to be an FBI info gathering agent with evidence to show parents who their kids 'really' are, but I 🤔 they already know. I've worked in 3-FL districts since 1997. A shift is putting it lightly. Pre covid, I had to teach my 37-students per period (6th, 7th, & 8th) in my content area classes & tk the math & 🎨 teacher's classes because both quit within the 1st 4 weeks of school. I had over 50-students in my tiny portable, regularly. The last straw was having to take the ELA teacher's students after she quit 😭. The 8th graders filled condoms with handsanitizer & bombed the cute petite little young sub while she wrote her name on the board. She apparently believed the condoms were filled with bodily fluids & she fled the classroom in hysterics. Admin stated she overreacted to being bombed with fluid filled condoms & we wont have her bk. Teacher's were put on notice to hush it up or you'll be sorry when your iObservation comes out. The students knew what we teachers didnt: admin & parents will err in their favor, there is power in numbers, we rule the school because we control admin thru our parents, if we act in unison they can't stop us, we have a mob mentality, they can't suspend us all because our parents won't have that & our parents don't want to miss work & they want to get away fm us. No consequences what so ever because the admin didn't want to suspended 20+ student perpetrators. Their parents 🏷 their behavior funny, cute, creative, hysterical, & kids being kids. In my MS years I didn't even know what a condom was let alone were to buy one nor afford one. When did it become ok for 6th, 7th, & 8th graders to publicly display condoms & assault teachers & other adults & more importantly get away with it. The sub shd have photographed the incident, i.e., condoms, her clothing, & person, & sued the school board. 💰 is all the admin & board cares about & I bet next time there'd be consequences. Teacher act & don't take violence of any kind. This was an assault & not a school issue. Call 911 & sue.
EVERYTHING that you have mentioned I have unfortunately experienced. I talk with my best friend about these challenges in teaching children today. The entitlement, lazy approach to school work, rudeness, the way students and parents and sometimes administrators work as a team against you...It is a sad situation. Then students and parents complain that there is a lot of turn over with the teaching staff...when they are a BIG part of the problem. I am 100% ready to quit. I grew up old school. The lack of respect and refusal to take responsibility for your actions or lack there of...I don't know what that mean. A retired teacher told me that he has seen the nature of students change in his 40+ years in education. He was glad that he hit retirement when he did. He was honest to goodness sad for me...I live in the Caribbean at a private school. This foolishness is a legit global crisis.
Wow! I have been in the education system now for Solid 10 years however I have been an education altogether for about 30 years coming up. It is definitely gotten worse. I substitute teach and I've been a full-time substitute teacher many a times and then I had a health issue in between and during and after this pandemic and it's hard for me to even want to go back here and there right now I'm like so over it. Then come to find out that I didn't get a raise on my pay which is not the only reason I'm doing it but it is highly important being everything's went up but everyone that just got out of high school is getting the same. After 10 years this is what I get then they write and ask where I'm at email me because people were wondering why I wasn't coming back and I explained my health situation in the pay situation and nothing was ever said about any of it
I was shocked to read that you are from the Caribbean. I thought the rude student behavior was an American problem. I taught in bottom ranked inner city schools for 4 years. Two of my former colleagues at the time who had been teaching for 10-30 years total at the time told me that "student behavior was much worse than it was before." They weren't referring exclusively to students with special needs, either.
Ok long post: I can definitely relate. At my old school, I would have students & parents complain because I had high expectations. And these “high expectations” were things that used to just be standard when we were in school (following rules, coming to class on time/prepared, completing/submitting work on time, etc). Anyway, I had a parent come up to the school & demand to meet with my vice principal because her daughter got a C- on an essay. She disagreed with the grade & demanded that I change it. I refused. The vice principal entertained the meeting. When he reviewed the essay, he told the parent that I was very generous in giving her daughter a C-. The vice principal used to be an English teacher & said he would’ve scored it much lower. The mom flipped out, but he held his ground & supported me-for which I was obviously grateful & relieved. But I was beyond annoyed with the whole situation. Go figure that, as an English teacher, I’m going to grade the essay based on the work presented, including taking off for misspellings, poor grammar, and lack of punctuation. But the concept of doing that nowadays is becoming foreign. It’s now “mean” to actually give students the grade that they’ve earned, so kids get passed through the system & they lack the necessary skills needed to succeed-both academically and in terms of life skills. It’s not all students, but enough of them are entitled & don’t know how to persevere when the going gets tough. Their parents bail them out & they don’t know how to respect authority. I’m leaving the profession for a lot of the reasons that you list in your videos. I made it as an English teacher for eight years, and I know that I am great at my job. I’ve been rated as excellent/highly proficient literally every year that I have taught. I have also formed wonderful relationships with students that I will always cherish. But the overall toll that being a teacher in 2020 is having on my life and my mental health has just become too much. You have an awesome channel! Thank you for the videos and keep them coming. You are speaking nothing but the truth!🙌🏽
Hi Ms. L! Thanks for sharing your experiences! So many of us can 100% relate! It is sad that having high expectations for kids is viewed as adversarial instead of loving. Ultimately, I believe many students will look back on teachers that held the line with gratitude even though many kids and parents can't appreciate it now. Hang in there! You sound like a GREAT teacher! :)
Also I want to add that I totally understand your choice to leave the profession for your health and wellbeing! I am considering the same decision myself. I hope we can both find a good fit for our gifts and talents that will be healthy! :)
@@TeacherTherapy Absolutely! Some of my former students, who are now in college, have reached out to me to express their gratitude. They didn't understand it at the time, but now that they are in college, they realize that: 1) I wasn't lying to them, 2) I was one of the teachers that actually prepared them, and 3) that means that I actually cared for them and wanted them to succeed. This is the rewarding part of teaching that I will certainly miss. I, however, know that leaving the profession right now is what's best for me--physically, mentally, and spiritually. I will keep my teaching license active and in a few years, I can always go back to teaching if I really feel compelled (the teacher shortage works in our favor), but I'd be letting myself down if I didn't take steps to be happy and fulfilled. I don't want to dread Sunday nights anymore. I don't want to feel like my job consumes my entire life. So, taking a leap of faith and stepping outside of one's comfort zone is often necessary for growth. :) You and I seem to have a lot in common--same age, same standards, both women of color doing great things in the classroom, and probably the same teaching style. We should chat sometime! I really think we'd offer a lot of insight to each other.
@@MsLEducation We do have alot in common! :) Thanks so much for letting me know I am not alone! :) I am glad to know that kids have come back and validated you, that is awesome! I think the idea of giving teaching a break is a wise one, that way the door is still open. I am looking for education related jobs too, for the same reason! Keep me posted if you find anything! :) My email is teachbloglove@gmail.com !
This type of behavior has now trickled down to the youngest of children in preschool. It is no longer a "kids of a certain age" type thing. I have taught students all the way up the ladder and I see, hear, and receive such treatment from students of this kin in all different grade levels. It is terrifying that a three-year-old can literally sound and behave exactly the same as a 18-year-old--meaning that the younger kid actually sounds and even looks more like the older kid with an openly authoritatively defiant aura, and not in a healthy way at all! There is no "safety zone" or category of "easy kids" anymore in teaching. Every grade level has its troublemakers, lazy folk, hard workers, intellectually curious, etc. It is just scary that there is now a very narrow gap between the ages of children in terms of the above characteristics. Because GenZ is an intensely alert, fast-paced, questioning, living-on-the-edge generation, they will try to beat their authority figures to the punch on everything without ever stopping and thinking about what they are doing or saying. If only they realized that teachers are not out to get them, and that life is all about give and take. Everybody has to do their part. You cannot expect to be treated like royalty just because you think highly of yourself.
Yes, I have heard horror stories from early elementary teachers that are so shocking I'd blush typing them! I have seen the same issues in my 4th and 5th graders too, and it is really sad especially when parents are in denial and always thinking their kid is the one being negatively influenced when their kid is the influencer! Tough times indeed!
The kids in elementary school are Gen Alpha, or some other term for that generation, born after 2010. They’ve never known a world that isn’t turbulent, only a turbulent world where everything spreads on social media like a wildfire.
As far as preschool kids they are getting it from listening to older kids. This is why they need to play with kids their own age. Also take the iPad away from them they definitely don’t need to be on TH-cam or ticktok their too young I don’t let my seven year old on tiktok she doesn’t even know what the videos are. They learn things from there that aren’t always good.
@@lauren6509 Strong classroom management skills are definitely key to pretty much any means of success as a teacher of any type. But when students use a disliking they have towards a teacher they don't like as an excuse for rudeness, disobedience, and laziness, then they have crossed the line and need to be disciplined pronto. Because when they are not disciplined (often due to their parents and school administrators neglecting their own obligations in that department and reprimanding teachers for exercising disciplinary punishments unto students under their own discretion), then those same students will take action towards trying to get a teacher of sorts fired by falsely accusing them of committing crimes in terms of claiming that those teachers were being physically inappropriate with students, grading "unfairly" (as in giving students any grade lower than an 'A'), or saying something "offensive" during class--all in an effort to get that teacher axed simply because the students don't want to listen or lift a finger towards putting any necessary effort in towards fulfilling their daily learning requirements. It's ridiculous, and continues to spiral out of control as long as the people at the top permit it.
I work in a college and the students just get more and more crazy every year. I thought college and jobs would end up causing some of these kids to snap out of it.... But now the colleges and jobs just bend over backwards so a bunch of 18 year olds dont mob them on social media. I stopped a student's test because she got her phone out and CALLED SOMEONE in the middle of the test and I was told I was wrong and need to learn to be more understanding of students. Excuse me, this student is in a nursing program. They're going to be a *nurse* and the school would rather let them phone a friend while taking an exam for their nursing course than for me to stop the test because it will upset the student and make the student feel that testing is "unfair"
As a gen z’er my school was super full of this, I didn’t really know anything else. We’ve been taken on out of state field trips and some drama must always happen. One time my class broke something in a spy museum. Albeit, it’s a big picture, a network between the parents, the school system, staff, media, consumerism, etc etc. there are so many things that need addressed. I’m sorry you guys have to face this. Teachers are so important. I also believe gen z’s idea of authority has changed,a lot of us don’t believe that one person should topple another, but teachers can’t be friends. It’s a difficult subject
As a gen z kid (independent learning) I can say for a FACT most kids just don't care. Like full stop no one gives a shit because no one has hope for the future, we are coming to terms with the fact that no matter how hard and how much we work, most of us will never be able to afford a home. School used to be a promise that you would have a better job and life, now it's just a place kids are forced to go during the day. That's how most of my generation views it anyway, allot of us are just considering doing illegal, demoralizing things just to survive.
Btw NOT excuseing disrespect or disruption, that shit gives me such bad second hand embarrassment 😫. The shit kids did in class was like some prison cafeteria behavior, fucking animals.
Us millennials had no hope as kids too after 9/11, but we still were respectful and did what was needed for existing and being in a society. I work with the public of all generations and most of it is parenting but when will people take responsibility for their actions? Sure, it may feel like there's no hope but ACTUALLY giving up and letting it crumble will cause more harm. Governments have dealt with entire economy crashes and world wars and still got the country back to functioning again and those people got to have those comfy retirements. Why can't our generations rebuild like they did and get ours?
What's hilarious is that the choices that you all make each day WILL matter. There is a saying among older folks: don't cut off your nose to spite your face. It means: don't trash something fully because it does not meet your expectations or standards. There are and will always be levels of freedom and suffering. Beware! Set yourself up for suffering with poor choices, and that will be your lot. Plenty of people your age will start successful businesses and hire their former high school peers at minimum wage. Which camp do you want to be in? And yes, it is possible for a person from an impoverished background to obtain what is necessary to start their own business without engaging in illegal acts.
Nonsense. If you want a home, and you work for it, you will have it. It is true that the economy will set the terms of your work. If a young person despairs that he sees no way to own a home while doing only work that is personally satisfying, and only as many hours as he likes, and only in the location that he chooses, then it's true that the outcome is less assured. And this has always been the case, by the way--well, in the past 60 years, at least. The necessity of conforming yourself to the present needs of the economy is not some new catastrophe uniquely descended upon your generation. PS There are vast inequalities at play, especially for the least skilled workers, and a vast proportion of basic jobs don't pay a living wage. Therefore, prepare yourself for not doing this kind of work. Agitate for, and support, the reforms we need to make a basic good life possible for every worker.
Answer to arguing student, "I will gladly have this conversation with you at lunch". 99.9% of them will not want to give up their lunch; therefore, it's really not that important, is it?
I came from a gifted school. This would not work, they will debate you. They will use logic and well thought out arguments. They are looking for the opportunity to flex their debate skills
I was kicked out of school four times in the 90s. I deserved it everytime. My mind is blown by the stories I hear from my daughter (15). It's obscene how a teacher'a hands are so tied.
Wow! I am SHOCKED that you’ve had admin get students to give you critical feedback. That is ridiculous. I know they have no respect for authority but to have that thrown in your face by admin is horrible!
I did that once as a student. I still remember the anxiety it gave me ten years later. I know that I have talked about it multiple times in the comments I want to give you my perspective as a student. I was doing an experimental class was told I could switch at the end of the semester and when I asked to go through with this agreement they had one of these meanings. They told me they thought I belonged in this special ed class with people on a different level of autism than I (easiest way to explain it). It was so humiliating. The class was so ableist, the teachers were so ableist. It was offensive to be in the class in the first place. I was removed from the class and took photography instead.
Wow, I also thought this was a brand new video in 2022! I did 30 years in public schools. It’s the most rewarding AND frustrating thing I ever did. Covid hurt, parents hurt, technology and social media hurt, and administration got scared to back up teachers. 20 years ago, we took phones from kids and charged $15 to get them back-now it’s a God-given right to have your device. For those still in the fight, stay tough-we need you!
I'm from Gen z but I was taught with respect and that there's a reason why people have those authority over you. It's because of experience, skill, and leadership. But that's because I came from a broken home where I also taught myself that you need to follow the steps to be successful or you're going to have problems in life. Things simply as doing your homework, being polite, or just following the rules are now just seen as rules that must be broken in my generation or people want to be a baddie. There's a difference between having unfair standards and rules versus set ones that are supposed to help you and the classroom to be successful.
To further confirm your observations about GenZ being incredibly opinionated I'm going to offer my anecdotal experience. As a '98 baby who graduated high school in 2017 and followed up with technical training, many of the attitudes you're frustrated with resonated with me; In particular, the lack of respect for teachers and the constant need for rationalization. My suburban parents taught me to respect authority by giving me chores, establishing household rules, and taking the time to rationalize these things with me. Understanding the underlying reasons became intrinsically tied to my respect for anything - regardless of who the person of authority was. This worked well until middle school: i performed well, listened to my teachers (whether or not i liked them), and had a strong work ethic. However, hormones mixed with an increasingly rebellious environment, the Internet, and lax teachers weaponized my rationalized view of the world against educators. Starting around 2013, during middle school, my academic performance dropped. Classmates didn't care, teachers were more interested in being friends with students rather than educators, and Internet politicization was on the rise. I noticed a gradual trend of teachers becoming increasingly more personal with students, sometimes wasting entire lessons with derailing anecdotes (resulting in more homework with less review, which didn't matter anyway because there weren't any consequences for underperforming). Everyone's hormones were off the wall, and because engagement is dropping in classrooms their attention turns elsewhere: relationships, video games, etc. Teachers were subconsciously relaying to students that their material doesn't matter and kids were taking that and running. The Internet and its forums were just the icing on top. This pattern of behavior 180'd once I was studying my career, not because of some newfound respect for educators, but because i respected the material. Please do the same. I understand that administration, your coworkers, parents, students, and the Internet are sabatoging the education system; You don't have to contribute to that. Establish a strong respect for the material you're teaching and while you can be friendly to students - do not try to be their friends. Keep things professional and maintain your credibility. This doesn't mean kids will respect you, but it will greatly help those who are actually coming to learn.
@@michaelbee2165 Yes they would normally be excuses. I deeply regret my lack of maturity and wisdom; I fully acknowledge that my education is ultimately my own responsibility. I am just grateful that i came to this awareness, now having the agency to make positive changes.
Have you been in today’s classroom? You can show the utmost respect for your subject area, you can explain to your students why the information matters, you can even relate it to their current stage in life or something in culture, but none of that matters if the student isn’t there to learn but to be babysat and play around for 8 hours.
I retired after teaching students with learning disabilities for 31 years. You are correct about all of the points that you discussed. Teaching is really abusive for educators these days. They are punished from students, parents, and administrators! I thank God that I survived long enough to earn a pension!
I totally agreed with you. The students I am dealing with are exactly like the ones you’re talking about. Some of the parents are telling their kids that they don’t have to listen to me. They’re are rude and disrespectful. They cussed at me when they don’t want to do their works, I send them to the office and they came right back the next day. I threatened to send a kid up for not staying in his seat and walking around bothering other students, he laughed and said, “they not going to do anything to me.” Sadly every time I see a video clip of some young adults behaving badly in public, I thought about my students because that is exactly how they behave in school. I recently quit my job because dealing with the bad behavior and having 5 preps is not enough for admin, they wanted me to participate in a focus group to train other teachers too, that is basically another prep for me. On top of that they’re asking how come I’m not coaching something or doing something extra during my evaluation. I’m already staying late to tutor, I barely have 4 hours to sleep, I’m spending money to buy school supplies for the kids, and I don’t even have time to see my own biological kids. When I submitted my resignation, they didn’t have any one to cover all the subjects that I was teaching, so the principal switched to a nicer tone and asked, “What if you only have 2 preps? Would that be better?” I said probably, but I’d made up my mind because I’d seen how she treated the other teachers who doesn’t have the option to quit. I blame the admins for the lack of structure and support in schools. They’re just trying to come up with bells and whistles to look like they’re doing something, and they shift the work on to teachers. I blame the parents for the kids behavior. Too many parents trying to be their kids’ friends rather than being parents. Kids got plenty of friends and they can make friends any time, any where. What they really need is parents, and if their parents don’t want the job, then they got nobody.
What the parents don't realize is sooner or later their kids won't listen to them either. The parents don't know that little Billy won't stay under 18 forever and as soon as that magic number is hit mommy and daddy can't save them anymore and real consequences will hit them like a brick wall.
Everything you say is true. I was a teacher for over 25 years and this is not just a problem in the US. It is a problem everywhere --be it private or public schools. I not only taught in the US, I also taught in Latin America. I taught from pre-school to college level. The most challenging were k-12 systems. The kids are just not willing to support it. We have a system that was developed for the beginnings of the industrial age, and it has not changed since I was in high school --1972! It is worst now because teachers get no support from administration nor from the parents, and so children just become difficult to manage. I was glad to leave the system and started my own private programs and it was great! I would not get caught in the traditional classroom ever again. The way I see it, let the parents deal with their children. Many parents realized the frustration of having THEIR own kids around all day long during the covid shut down and many people would say, those poor parents, but for me, I was thinking, let them get a taste of what it's like to be a teacher. Since parents "know" everything about education, pedagogy and teaching, let them deal with their kids. I had a student throw a desk at me. That is when I left the traditional teaching field for good and have never regretted it. Also, when they (administration) tell you that they are using innovative methodologies, don't believe them because if they are not spending the money to improve the system by making classroom groups smaller and paying teachers more along with taking teachers seriously and respecting the profession, it's a big lie. I honestly believe that all of this craziness in our educational system will not change. The way that kids are learning today is no match for the transitional systems of teaching, and the teaching educational programs at our universities are not dealing with the problems in the system. This is why new young teachers that enter the profession have no idea how bad it is, and the public does not want to believe how bad it is either. It's a huge problem. I don't even think that paying teachers more will fix the problem. If I had children today, I would not send them to traditional schooling systems. Not at all!
Well said and well done. I had at least one field placement in a local school during my University years as a Special Education major, so I had different experiences with different students with different capabilities and different behaviors. It boggles my mind that other college/university programs for teachers just have one filed placement (senior year) if any at all, because while there is a massive amount of material that college students must learn in their college classrooms, going out and teaching students as real life experience is where many people learn the most.
As a person toward the older-half of Gen Z, I really truly think this is all true, and that it comes from a mass lack of motivation as a whole. Us Gen Z have grown up to messages of global warming, declining economy, watering-down of the value of degrees, increased debt, a horrible medical system, a completely misrepresentative government, etc. An *extremely* common (and shared!) sentiment between gen Z is a complete lack of faith in a future. Our memes literally have to do with existentialism and depression, our music is depressing, etc. In the US, this is our future: global warming will introduce anthrax outbreaks, worse crop yield, mass immigration, more wild weather, and sinkholes. The economy will continue to be moved toward large monopolies such as Disney, Comcast, General Mills, and companies who bribe our openly-corrupt government senators and house in order to avoid laws being corrected to account for the exploitation of loopholes and lack of foresight. Money continues to be distributed disproportionately to the wealthy few, our government representatives continue to be replaced with older and/or more out-of-touch people. Our justice system and police seem to only get more racist and militaristic/violent with time. Most importantly, we grew up with internet, so unlike every previous generation, we've been exposed to all of this and more every day since childhood. It's literally like: the punk and antiwar movements of the late 90's lost their battles, and now in the 2020s we've all collectively given up on the world. It's not going to get better, it's only going to get worse. So I really think, at least with the older students in gen Z who have phones or tablets, this is the root cause and it'll likely only get worse. As far as the really young ones, a big part of that might just be bad parenting. But keep in mind, that since those students' parents are late Gen x and early millenials, those students as a whole definitely grew up in more divided and worse-off households. It used to be that a single job can support a family with kids and a house and a car. And the kids of the 60s, 70s, 80s grew up in those households. Now, the kids grow up in households with parents absent and tired from working multiple jobs, or only one parent-because their mom and dad have already divorced. Basically what I'm saying is, to some extent, you can't blame the students for a systemic issue. But for individual students making nasty comments, you definitely can blame them.
Thanks for the essay on why Gen Z is in such turmoil. Now, what are you going to do about it, at least for yourself? We’ve all grown up with bullshit going on in our lives. Get the fuk over it, stop making excuses. Get out there and create your future. Or keep regurgitating excuses and do nothing, try to survive off a corrupt system, and be depressed. I call bullshit. Find GOD. That is the problem with this time, too many people walked away from God and the belief in our after-life and a higher power than them. No God. No Peace… KNOW GOD, KNOW PEACE.
@@OldJoeBlows ah yes. The invisible man in the sky who loves me but will send me to hell to suffer for eternity if I do something wrong will make the world better if I just beg
Yep, my sister let my nephew do whatever he wanted at a very young age. She didn’t care he had no respect for anyone. Suspended? No problem. At 21 he did a full year in the county jail. 2 years later he did over a year in prison. Has his attitude changed? Nope.
I'm coming into this as a student, not a teacher, so please keep this in mind. I am graduating from highschool this year, so I'm not sure HOW much of this would apply to my grade, though I'm sure much of it can and did/does apply (I have been quite sheltered in my friend groups and classes, and have comparatively few classes and teachers compared to my peers as I tend to try and stick to the same classes and teachers for comfort.) I grew up as one of those types of, ah.. unideal gifted student? I have parents who were born in the 50s, so they drilled respect into me (even when it is unnecessary or doesn't make logical sense, JUST for the sake of politeness), and I was a naturally very good reader. I am from Canada, but I would switch schools through the IB program to go to california in the winter, as we had a home down there. I had exceptionally good marks and going down south meant that I got to learn different sides of history and currency and measurements and such back and forth. But, despite me being a teacher's pet, and getting exceptional grades, I very likely have undiagnosed mixed presentation ADHD (to the point where it's kind of alarming no teacher ever talked to my parents about it, since most of my friends, when they met me, thought I was diagnosed. Once I am 18 I am going to work towards getting a diagnosis.) and would talk excessively when I didn't find the classwork stimulating enough. Most of my teachers were extremely accommodating towards this, and I found I was punished much less than kids (especially boys) who didn't have marks as good as mine. HOWEVER, this is all build up to Jr. High and highschool (I stopped going to cali after grade 4, so that no longer applies) wherein all hell has broken loose. I have, for the most part, had teachers I enjoyed, even if the class was difficult or rowdy. One teacher brought me to tears after it took me ages to make up the courage to ask for a hesitant extension on a project because I had been working on an essay for her and had two concerts that week, and then yelled at the class the day later. (She ended up taking a mental health break at the end of the semester. It was supposed to end last-ish week. it was extended, there were .. issues with her, idk if she's coming back.) Lately, I have found it hard to write critical pieces of texts even if they are easy. I could talk about it for hours, but writing it down is an issue. Formatting even moreso. I had to talk with my english teacher about a project that was late (She knew the reasons. There was in-class time to work, but without fail the classroom was too loud to even think, let alone write a fairly large paragraph analyzing a youtube video.) and she was exceptionally accommodating. But without fail, every single class has a group of students who basically refuse to hand in assignments, and luckily, the classes either have angels for teachers or are module based, so it doesn't matter, as long as it eventually gets handed in. (A lot of the times, people fail the easiest of classes. It's a convservative area, and so many of the students are just forced to attend class so they don't have a spare, or because they have to fill their schedule up with so many classes, and certain classes are just 'drop' classes they won't need. I do think this is a mixture of a problem between parents and the system in place at my school.) But oh my god, the student drama and horror stories I have heard. CW for some heavy stuff from this point on. Bro, you don't just get physical assaults that leads to kids getting suspended or expelled and that's that. You get people who lie about having brain cancer, who lie about being in a s*x trafficking ring, who lie about having epilepsy because they have a MOUTH FETISH? I could go on. this was ONE person They lost all their friends, but the teachers couldn't do much about it. One of the teachers who started the situation by looking at the cameras and trying to help them ended up quitting partway through the next year. I'm sad I never got a class with him, as he was one of my favorites from having him as a TA, but I fully understand why he left. (He also has a wife who's immunocompromised, and COVID just kinda made it so he had a reasonable out) I've seen students who were receiving consistent homophobic death threats, physical assaults, etc, and having SO few repercussions that it's genuinely insane. Especially so when you consider that most of the altercations happen between a male student and an already harassed queer student that the school doesn't seem to care about. I've had teachers complain about how articles that state facts are 'too controversial' for the school newspaper, and since I've been in grade 8, every year, someone I know and am friends with has either planned or attempted s*icide, which is heartbreaking, especially when you have to coach your friends as they too have parents who don't believe them. at this point i'm just praying that I can make it to university so I can just play band forever and leave the catholic(public) school system behind. god, it's been hell. I've met some amazing teachers who I plan on staying in touch with, but just going through highschool and seeing and hearing all this stuff is really deterring me from going into it as a profession, at least at the K-12 level.
as a gen z college student studying to be a teacher, i have a LOT of thoughts. for context, i graduated high school in 2018. idk what it's like to teach full time, but ive spent time in a 2nd grade class, a high school sped class, tutored 3rd and 4th graders, and teach part time at a preschool. in defense of gen z: my mental health was horrible from 7th to 12th grade. when i was 12, the sandy hook shooting happened 10 minutes away from my middle school. i think it affected me more than i realized bc this was the year i started to have panic attacks and indulge in self harm. adults didnt take it seriously bc they just saw me as a dramatic hormonal teen girl. my mental health continued to suffer in high school. my typical day consisted of waking up at 6, going to 8 straight classes, and spending 2-5 hours at sports or marching band. the first time i'd sit down at home was usually around 9 or 10 pm. i'd be exhausted but still have 3 hours of homework to do. i'd get 4 hours of sleep and then repeat. if i wasnt engaged in class, it was because i was exhausted and ready to kill myself. not because i didnt respect my teacher. also in terms of cellphones, it's a genuine addiction. i got my first one at 12. high schoolers today have been on ipads since preschool. we dont go on it to be disrespectful, we go on it bc we feel uneasy not checking it. doesnt make the behavior acceptable, but just giving perspective. overall, it's just not a good time to be coming of age. school shootings and a pandemic are already hard enough, but we also know that we can do everything right and get straight A's in college yet still end up with an underpaying job, not be able to afford housing or healthcare or families, and also may not live to see grandchildren because of climate change. there's a heavy sense of dread and hopelessness for my generation to deal with. BUT in defense of teachers: despite all of that, i never talked back to a teacher or didnt listen the first time they asked me to do something. my parents were highly respectful to all our teachers and always trusted they were doing what they thought was best. this is how it should be. also in my edu classes, they teach us so much about preventing negative behavior and focusing on positive behavior which is great. but they dont tell us what to do when these bad behaviors inevitably do happen. it seems like there's no consequence we're allowed to give anymore. i can also tell that teachers are micromanaged and have a million responsibilities beside just teaching. teachers deserve so much more support, respect, and pay. i think every classroom, no matter what grade, should have assistants and paras around to help with behavior so the teacher can just focus on teaching.
Your defense of teachers is admirable, but there are some issues defending generational behavior in the content of your post that are, to use a popular phrase found more and more in modern parlance: "Problematic." In recent years Americans have come to believe that they are all victims of one kind or another, and if they are not actual victims of something, will find some way to make themselves appear so in order to be a part of the group that gets all the attention and sympathy. This behavior is classified as Vulnerable Narcissism, and it's society wide. I've struggled with devastating bipolar my whole life, plus an autoimmune condition that has hospitalized me about once every 2 years. I am also NOT a victim, I just have challenges that life has dealt me, same as lots of other folks. My best friend was paralyzed in a random violent stranger attack at age 34, but he refuses to see himself as a victim for the same reason. Horrible things happen to people, and historically have happened to people, all through time. You and the current generation coming of age are not special. Regardless of the world seemingly spinning out of control, by many metrics you are living in one of the best times in history to be alive in the world, no matter it's problems. Especially if you live in modern affluent democracies like the US. For instance, plagues have happened before, if anyone was paying attention, and were usually much worse than Covid, and there was no or poor medicine. Wars have swept over and destroyed huge amounts of human life. If you lived your whole life in America, you have never experienced a war on your own landmass, a war that directly affected you. You might want to take a look at the history of what the Earth's Homo Sapiens went through before the modern age. The creator of the video talked about entitlement, and it is on display everywhere, especially among my young relatives. I could use my mental and physical illnesses as an excuse to not take responsibility for myself, but I became successful in spite of challenges. I refused to be a victim. The US has entered into a period of Cultural Decadence (in the Classical sense of the term), and it will only get worse unless Americans, no matter what the generation, get over themselves. My sister is one of the finest human beings to walk the planet, a kind, caring, compassionate, brilliant, empathetic, dedicated teacher, and after 30 years of teaching is leaving for the exact reasons the video author left her job. And my sister is unbelievably patient. But even she had a limit. I wish you the best of luck, and I'm sure you'll be a fine teacher, but please don't impart a victim mentality to your future students. It won't serve them well in life.
@@Zenbuck2 God, I'm so over the older generations and their "pull yourselves up by the bootstraps" mentality. You want to suffer in silence because you're not a victim? Great. Don't dismiss the struggles of an entire generation that while living in an era of "cultural decadence" as you call it is also the generation projected to have the worst purchasing power in history, deal with environmental issues at an unprecedented rate and will likely never be able to successfully achieve any of the ridiculous American Dream benchmarks people like you pretend exist. We don't have bootstraps you pull ourselves up by. We don't need physical war when we're are suffering from a political war ripping the country apart (or did you forget that people are ACTIVELY trying to topple democracy in this country as we know it). Every day, theres some random environmental catastophe to worry about or a school shooting or record inflation rates. And you all act like we should go on with our days as if it isn't anxiety-inducing. Rather than being upset with the children, be upset with the government and schoolboards that cut your funding, stretching you thin with shitty pay and badly micromanaging what you can and can't teach. Gen Z has a nihilist attitude because the future is bleak and instead of your generation helping us fix it, you're raging on TH-cam about bad parenting, but WE'RE the victims 😂. Disrespectfully, please quit. We're as tired of you as you are of us.
@@Zenbuck2 I agree that learned helplessness is rampant, and something we as a society have to figure out. It'd do well to remember that being right is not the goal (it never is), creating the solutions the work is the goal. That said, everyone alive right now is experiencing the very real, looming threat of climate change is an Armageddon level threat that has, for millions, made everything seem actually, truly hopeless. Think of what that does to the psyche.
@@AvgJane19 we are also, possibly, seeing family and friends die because of a virus discovered 3 years ago that has killed a million people worldwide. It definitely feels like the end of days because of that sometimes.
@@Zenbuck2 thank you for this thoughtful comment. i deal with mental illness and chronic illness as well, im sorry you deal with that too. it's inspiring to know you're able to succeed in spite of that. i hope i'll be able to do that too. however i wasnt trying to be a victim (although i can see how it looked that way). i was just trying to give perspective of what students are currently feeling. as im getting older, ive been learning to manage all these scary things better. but as a teen, things really felt hopeless and out of control. there's currently a mental health crisis among kids and teens, and there's many studies to prove it. i really think there's a link between my anxiety, stress, and sleep deprivation in high school with the chronic illnesses i developed in college. it's a serious issue. but that doesnt mean im planning on "imparting a victim mentality on my students." im planning on prioritizing their social emotional health, looking for the root cause of negative behaviors, and having empathy for them rather than just labeling them as "bad" lazy kids.
"let the child lead" When I taught this was a sentiment or ideology that a lot of parents and even my school system shared. Sure enough, those kids ran their household. When confronted about behavior, the parents reaction was the "not my child." Accountability is lacking among many kids. When the real world hits they easily see their circumstances as victimhood rather than consequences of their own choices.
If a parent said to me "not my child" my response would be "your child won't be under 18 forever" These parents and kids don't seem to understand that once that magical age hits the world takes off the gloves. It's going to be real punishments they can't walk away from and mommy and daddy can't save them anymore.
We are seeing it now with "Trans Kids." Jazz Jennings is one example. From what I have seen and what others have said, Jazz's mom persuaded and rewarded him for going along with "being trans." However, Jazz's mom has said "we were just following Jazz's lead."
While teaching art, I would spend about 45 minutes each day e-mailing various parents about behavior. More time was spent following up with behavior than planning. The school had this "three-strikes" system, which meant a kid could do whatever he wanted, as long has he did it only twice. On the third time, a process would start with parent teacher conferences, meetings, curriculum adjustments, behavior plans, follow-up ideas, and all this would come out of the teacher's time. The teacher would then have to keep track of who had one warning, who had two warnings, and who had a behavior plan with additional warnings, then spend more time scheduling detention time around parent work schedules, getting parent permission for detention, and ensuring the student has transportation home afterward. So when Little Billy destroys his third webcam, the teacher has to spend hours and hours going through this process before any serious consequences happen to Billy. I ended up spending an average of 65 hours a week physically in my classroom, and most of that time was spend dealing with student behavior
You are spot-on. I spent so much time - for nothing - doing all the things you listed when I should have been working on my art curriculum. Just madness. I regret all but my first year of teaching and that was 31 years ago. Retired recently and can't believe the difference in my sleep patterns, stress levels, and general well-being - this after teaching with chronic illnesses from the start. Every day I would park my car in front of the school(s) and wonder if this is the day the "gotcha!" would occur - as I had seen happen to so many other teachers before. That or some sort of violence on campus again (elementary level at that). When students who severely misbehave are "disciplined" with playing basketball with the principal or breakfast with the principal, etc. no wonder they feel invincible. Send them to the office for disrupting class and then they were sent back within 15 minutes as it is now law that they can not be excluded from class and disrupt/impact their learning. !! What about the other kids who do want to learn? So glad I am done with all this but feel badly for those remaining or who are just getting into education as a career. It nearly broke me.
As a retiring art teacher I feel your pain. I can't get to loading and unloading kiln because of prep time being used for paperwork and parent calling over bad behavior. Or I get home after a day of no prep from covering other classes or other crisis and realize I forgot to follow up. It was so much easier in the 80s when I could take the problem kid to the office and he or she would get a paddling.
@@TeacherTherapy True. My brother does hiring and he's told me how frustrating it is whenever he hires anybody under 30. It's the same thing; arguing with management, ignoring tasks that they don't feel like doing, thinking deadlines are optional; all the bad behavior mentioned in this video. It's gone on long enough that these students are graduating and are bringing these attitudes into the workforce.
Principles are useless these days. Completely useless. These administrators in some cases are toxic. Time for the great teacher resignation to gain steam. Then when you quit they send you nasty emails even after you resigned. Pathetic.
Such a culture of abuse... I just had the worse day. Disruptive behaviors in two classes gave me a splitting headache today before a faculty meeting at the end of the day followed by a sit down with the Principal because some of the kids in one of my disruptive classes decided to complain about me. They complained about all sorts of things, but the real complaint is that they don’t want a test this week or when we get back after break because they’re not ready. They don’t read are lazy as all hell but I’m the problem. I can relate to you so much. Please pray for me.
the only reason why i was lazy at school was because i was depressed and getting bullied and i didn't know i had autism until literally yesterday but luckily i am homeschooled
I'm not a teacher, however I understand the struggles teachers go through. As a gen Xer I have seen a massive shift in attitudes. I have two kids and I want to instill in them respect and appreciation. I just want to see school administrators having a backbone and not pandering to lazy parents and bad kids.
Oh my the defiance is just unbelievable! I spend ages planning lessons and kids just refuse to do anything! Also the lack of understanding between bad choice/ behaviour and consequence. They don’t get why they’re in trouble. Then the outbursts happen. It’s not worth giving a consequence because of their reaction and it doesn’t sink in anyway.
why not call the cops when kids start getting aggressive. Then have them sent to the behaviorial schools if necessary. If parents get mad have cameras set up in the classroom to show the bad behavior.
I think the American culture needs to start valuing hard work, respect and discipline again. I am lucky I attended an elementary and high school that had very high pressure for academic success. Now I'm in Uni to become a high school teacher. I enjoy listening to different teacher stories to help prepare myself, this was a great video.
As someone who is a part of Gen Z, I have never agreed more with a video than this, I notice all the things you've brought up with kids in my class, and I'm glad you brought those things to light. While there are still good kids in my class, half the classroom isn't the same. Teachers are human beings too, so treat them like they are
I’m in no way defending entitlement nor am I the “air freshener police”, but there are legit people who can get sick, nauseated, or even puke when it comes to air fresheners. It’s an allergy or some manifestation of asthma or something but it’s *very* real. I have spray air freshener at home and the only ones I can stand that don’t make me sick are Febreze. Not just any Febreze either. The scent must be lavender or some kind of food scent like vanilla, apple cinnamon, or just apple or just cinnamon, or pumpkin spice. No floral scents, no ocean breeze scents. And no Glade or any other brand even if it’s a food scent. I’m not trying to cause trouble, tell you what to do, or add anything else to your already overloaded teacher plate. I just want you to know that this one may not be one of those that someone is throwing out there for no good reason.
Thank you! A friend of mine has really severe asthma and air freshener could literally kill or severely injure him because of how hard is his asthma attacks are to control. Not to mention how for people with sensory issues something like air freshener could make it nearly impossible for them to learn in the classroom.
@Julie Lourdes I am happy for you if you have found something that works for you and your asthma but please be aware that essential oils are full of very powerful chemicals and are known to trigger asthma attacks. Something being natural doesn't make it safe unfortunately. That said I'm not saying you shouldn't use them at all just be cautious (especially if you have pets as many common essential oils are extremely deadly to them) and PLEASE be careful not to diffuse them around others who might have asthma or young children as a safe level of essential oil for an adult can make them sick.
@Julie Lourdes The essential oils themselves are made of chemicals. The chemicals that are naturally in essential oils are very powerful and often dangerous.
@Julie Lourdes I understand your confusion. The word chemical is often used to mean a chemical that is synthetic, hence why you see things labeled “chemical free”. However, in truth literally everything is made out of chemicals. For example, humans are mainly composed of oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus. These chemicals combine into many different molecules that make our bodies and allow it to function. That said some of the molecules our body produces can be harmful. For example, our stomachs produce hydrochloric acid or HCl (we also have chlorine in our bodies as well!), it helps us digest food and kills some pathogens keeping us from getting sick. However, the acid from our stomach, which our stomach can handle just fine thanks to specialized cells, will give us chemical burns if we got it on our skin. Plants exist in much the same way. They are made of chemicals and anything derived from plants, including essential oils, is made out of those chemicals. Plants are actually really fascinating in that they have evolved ways to create some really interesting molecules over the years, after all they can’t run or fight back against a predator so their main defense is chemical. When essential oils are created many of these chemicals that the plants naturally have are concentrated (that’s why you need a lot of plants to make a small about of essential oil). Essential oils are chemicals, quite concentrated ones in fact, which responsible for both their helpful and harmful properties. Any company or person that tells you they are chemical free is not a reliable source of information about essential oils and you should be cautious about buying from them. All that said I am happy that essential oils work for you, but you HAVE to remember that different people with asthma have different triggers, and essential oils are known to be a trigger for some people. No matter how severe your asthma is other people can be triggered by things that don’t trigger you and vice versa.
Teaching will only get harder in the coming years. I would never again choose this profession if I had to do it again. I lost 12 years of my life to this so called profession. I could write for hours on all the nonsense.
I've been doing it well I first started at a preschool teacher in the 90s. I thought I didn't like that because they were too little and I didn't have my kids at the time. So I went back to school and got my degree in other things but then when I had kids I got an education degree and was glad that I was able to be able to teach in their school and I substitute. I had long-term jobs and tutored for the past almost twelve years as well. I've even been an Adjunct professor and that's another story. even though I didn't even do it very long because it was so weird. I just can't believe how it all is it seems like it got worse before covid and now it's even far beyond worse and I bet you anything next year it's going to be real bad and only get worse like you said.
Yes I think it's going to get worse too. I think there's also a political party that wants to destroy public education. They want it privatized. .Look at now there states that were you can sue teachers for the information they provide in school. They don't even have to have students in the classroom, anybody can sue them because they don't agree with curriculum. Places where you have to teach creationism nit just evolution. This is crazy This is ridiculous. I think there's too much outside control
Everything in this video is 100% true. I'm currently in my first/last year teaching and already have my next career set up. I'm scratching and clawing to finish my contract and simply maintain my professional record. My administration has threatened me with a "poor reference" the same week I requested my termination for the end of my contract (keep in mind I could quit at any moment and not even finish my contract). The lack of discipline in schools, as well as our grading system is an abomination. Practices and student behavior expectations teachers take years to give up on took me weeks.
i have been teaching 27 years and would never advise any one to teach nowadays these kids have no home training or the home training they have is really bad
As a student in high school with two teachers as parents all I hear about at home is all these horror stories about this generation of kids. I admire anyone who teaches because I hear about this all the time. My parents have actively told me not to go and pursue teaching. I agree with them on that front. I feel for you guys keep fighting and keep up the good work! Likes and subscribed❤
Entitlement!!!! Oh, so MUCH entitlement!!! I had a young man this year who came to me at the end of the day and asked me for 2 pieces of candy: one for today and one for tomorrow since he was going to miss the next day!!! 😳😳😳
All of this is more the reason why we should look to celebrate positive student behaviors as much as possible. Can’t take a kid walking in your class calmly and just sitting down for granted.
@@tiredbunbun9009 my post is less about projecting where students will end up but it’s more so about helping teachers gain a perspective on how much kids are actually doing the right thing and trying. We lose sight of that when we focus on the negative behaviors.
AMEN!! OMG, you are our voice! YES TO EVERYTHING in your video. And you are so right, about administration giving students more power than their teachers! I fear for our future because of the issues you stated in your video. Again, it's not ALL students but those students who we are not talking about, come in fewer numbers each year. Very sad! Thank you again. **My head just kept nodding and nodding! 🙂
I'm raising six children and thank you for all of this, I homeschool but I am definitely seeing some things I do and how I can be molding my kids.in this same fashion. Thanks for sharing, I know you weren't intending what I took but really, thank you.
I know you do this but I have to say it to every parent, limit screen time and if they have phones or tablets put them in a lock box at night and do not trust youtube to monitor what your kid watches, the kid youtube still shows them innappropriate videos that haven't been flagged
I switched into teaching from another profession two years ago. I teach an older age group (grades 9-12), but I see a lot of the same stuff. The comments you made about the student being encouraged to give you recommendations on how to teach class hit home for me - while what you experienced there was more egregious than what I have seen personally, I have been shocked at how some students presume to tell me what tests should look like, how to make presentations more entertaining, etc. Thanks for the video!
You are 100% correct in your analysis. I say this as a parent. I believe it started close to twenty years ago with No Student Left Behind and Common Core. Teachers and administrators we're terrified, parents were confused and the students were lost as a result. I had such trouble getting my children to understand consequences for academic performance that I eventually pulled them out and homeschooled them. There was no accountability for the students, only the teachers and the parents. However, administrators kept changing the curriculum, or at least how things were expected to be done, and the parents would get the kids homework and just scratch their heads because it wasn't how they learned it so they did know how to help. Urban Schools became the testing grounds for every ridiculous policy change while suburban and private schools continued mostly unmolested with their tried and true teaching methods. Smh.
I've been a substitute teacher in the Central Valley of CA for the past 4 years. After what I've seen and experienced, I would tell any parent: if you love your children, homeschool them.
You are destroying your kids social life at this early stage, no matter how bad their classmades are, its a part of their growth as a person. Missing out on that most important stage in life will make them suffer later, even come to hate you with the deficit of life experience, which you‘ve caused them.
Homeschooling comes with its own set of issues. I had multiple classes in college with kids that were homeschooled, smart but really socially stunted (which was odd because they all knew each other from home school programs where they socialized). Not every parent is cut out to homeschool, and some straight up have no business doing so. There need to be A LOT of self awareness on the part of the parent in terms of where their flaws lie so they know when they might need outside help.
I am currently a gen-z student in school in the UK. I am generally pretty well-behaved, I've never got a detention. Having a 'healthy climate' isn't telling someone what to do and expecting them to not have any autonomy or ask why they have to do something because that's honestly unhelpful as it leaves you with unanswered questions. If a teacher told me to do something, and I didn't understand why, so I asked and I got called entitled, I would be personally offended. Imagine if the headteacher just told you what to do without any given explanation or reason over and over again, you would probably find them to be the entitled one. I understand your situation and what you're describing could be different to what I know, but from what I understand about my generation, we simply are trying to break away from the narrative we're just to be told what to do, and we are less important than those who have power over us. When you talk about certain situations like the wall plug scent, that is very specific and shouldn't be viewed on the same level as asking why they have to do something. To say gen-z are entitled is offensive and quite rude, to be honest I find people who speak down to me for the reason we defy unsubstantiated and unexplained rules to be far more entitled than we could ever be as students! I think the real systemic issue is the school system seen in the UK, seen in the US and many many other places where the curriculum and methods of teaching are made to produce a factory worker who doesn't think outside the box. Also following the kids you teach to elicit a reaction which gives you happiness is wildly inappropriate! It's not your students responsibility to make you feel good about yourself, this is so unethical due to the power dynamic between students and teachers and when you literally follow your students so they make you feel the way you want to feel, yet calling us entitled is honestly disrespectful towards us. We exist and deserve to be treated as those who can understand something's reasoning to the same level as you and trust me I can.
"To say gen-z are entitled is offensive and quite rude..." So, you feel entitled to be only described in ways you find pleasing, otherwise the person who has a different opinion of you is, by definition, rude. I think too many people these days, including yourself, are quite easily offended and have the belief that it is the fault of the person who offended you (how dare they), and their moral duty to avoid a repeat, instead of seeing it as your own weakness.
@@dubiouslycrisp no I think to define a whole generation as 'rude' is pretty entitled. I have done nothing to this person, never even met them, yet they call me and 2.47 billion other people entitled?
@@thomashorton8302 Gen-z being labeled "entitled" is a generalization, meaning most of them, not meaning every single person. Come on, that's obvious. You are welcome to think of yourself as an exception.
@@dubiouslycrisp and I bet if you met every single one of them, you would find very little to actually be entitled, and I can say that knowing quite a lot of gen z ers
@@minoozolala no I'm saying if you're a teacher and your senior (in this case the headteacher) tells you to do something which you don't understand so you ask why and you get called rude and entitled for asking you might be a little offended
This is EVERYTHING!! Thank you for these videos, I just subscribed to your channel. I am a teacher and I have definitely questioned my career choice, unfortunately I went to school for this and am still in debt from student loans over my degrees for teaching. There are times I want to leave but the guilt of getting so far into debt for a career I wanted and then choosing to leave really messes with me. Keep posting these vids❤️ you are seriously an inspiration to me and I’m sure many other educators on here!
Hi Mrs. S! Thanks for your encouragement 🙏! I am in the same position you are in right now! I am interviewing for another job, but if it doesn't work I will have to stick with teaching indefinitely due to student loans and bills. But I have seriously thought about just working at Whole Foods or somewhere but the salary & holidays are hard to give up! Best wishes for you! We're all in this together ❤!
I'm 27. One thing I wish that was explained in school more was "if you work hard here, you will most likely make more money in the long term". I feel like if I had that ideal hammered in my brain in highschool I would've performed more optimally. My opinion of course
I disagree... way to instill a toxic money chasing mentality or huge financial anxiety. People perform best when they have *intrinsic* motivation and genuine interest for what they are doing. Time and time again we find that our dependence on external reward has limited success.
Not necessarily true. I excelled in high school, did well in college but spent a few years after that being unemployed, struggling to find decent work, or working the worst retail jobs because that's all that was hiring at the time. I'm doing better now but am nowhere near making 6 figures. Whoever is seriously equating high school work & high GPA to high salaries may be selling a false promise. No one cares about grades after u leave school. Maybe the only exception is if you're trying to be a doctor or lawyer.
okay but the thing is, that is completely wrong. hard work does NOT equal success. the world is a train wreck that values old money to make the world go round. and to give an example, because of the inflation of the bachelors degree, you have collage educated people who work measly, hard labor jobs who trained for artisan skill because employers view anyone old enough that DIDNT go to collage as "lazy and stupid," that don't pay well, aren't what they trained for, and cause them to waste there life away on a mega-cooperation monopoly who just gets richer and richer off inhumane treatment.
I switched to a Catholic school in the same neighborhood as the public one I was teaching in recently and find your comments spot on. There is a weird sense of entitlement in students considered “ underserved” who are actually given a lot they don’t appreciate and a lack of curiosity beyond social media and entertainment. The kids in the public school were actually much nicer-to me, anyway. I have been astonished at what 5 th through 8 th graders say to my face and their ability to always have the principal’s ear and inappropriate support from many teaching aides as well.
As an adult in my 40's, I've noticed the same with recent new grad hires - THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY SOCIAL SKILLS! They can barely carry on a conversation, or even say good morning.
Based upon the comments I'm going to say something that may he unpopular but here goes. Give the state of the world we live in I think we need to instill in kids a certain amount of questioning of authority figures. I can see how that is frustrating however for teachers. The question I would have then is...how do we instill a certain amount of the questioning authority without overload of it? As for the rest, I agree parents aren't parenting. Many want to be thier friend and not the parent, which I think stems from wanting thier child to tell them everything and they believe being a friend will achieve that better. I also believe to many kids are being raised by screens, whether it's Ipads, phones, video games, or TVs. The question is, how do you fix parents?
There can be no argument about following instructions in the classroom. There is no room for flexible authority when it comes to creating classroom activities and lesson plans. Teenagers have learned for millennia to question authority simply by virtue of the maturation process. These little morons, the ones being discussed in these comments, are painfully stupid creatures who will make excellent customers in the future.
I feel like this is what they say about every new generation. As a teacher, I think it's up to us to build the culture. It's always going to be challenging, but writing off gen z as disrespectful, entitled, lacking work ethic, etc is exactly how you end up burned out.
I’m a young adult and even my younger siblings agree that kids are very entitled nowadays. We will see the consequences of technology and the coddling of teenage minors in the upcoming years.
Agree! Tale as old as time. I’m Gen X and my boomer parents said the same negatives about my generation. My grandparents said the same about my parents. They’ve been saying the same about Millennials until recently I’ve noticed Millennials are now dumping on my kids’ generation. I think we all have selective memory and only remember the highlights. I teach my kids to respect their teachers and work hard at school. They are good kids and their teachers this year said they wished they’d loosen up a little and raise a little hell now and then! If they feel they are being mistreated by a teacher (which has happened twice for my 11 year old son during all his years in school) I believe them. I try to give the teacher the benefit of the doubt and talk it out first but I know my kids are great students and I will take action if it is hurting them emotionally and/or academically.
You must be a member of admin….also, it is inconceivable to be able to compare older generations ridicule of their younger counterparts when this generation never existed in a world without instant gratification technology. There is 1000% a difference in their behavior and 1000% influenced by the environment they’ve grown up in.
@@v.l.7656 Inconceivable because the technology has changed compared to last generation? Also, I'm not an admin. I enjoy teaching in the classroom and get sick of the people who whine about kids these days. We're the adults. We have to guide them
@@NKim-gj9vk so are we generalizing and putting words in others' mouths? It sounds like your issue is with social media, not kids themselves. Again, I believe it is up to us as adults to guide them.
I had an 8th grade student tell me this year (after 40 minutes of non-stop talking), “You can’t tell me to stop talking.. only my momma can tell me to stop talking!” I told her that her momma doesn’t work here.
I am leaving education. They wanted to see what it's like to have the older, more capable, stronger, cleverer, more educated, and more experienced people as their adversaries instead of allies? SIGN ME UP. I will be taking advantage of this generation as much as possible with a large, resplendent smile on my face.
7:35 YESSS, exactly!! I literally had to teach my 16-year-old students that it is rude to not respond to a greeting. They greeted me back for about two days after that and then went back to not caring. So dehumanizing.
That’s the thing that bothers me about Gen Z as a Millennial. But they constantly spout about “respect me, respect my mental health, respect my boundaries” ALL OF WHICH IS GREAT. But then when you’re an authority figure, their mother/father or teacher or whatever, they disregard doing all those things for YOU. Which shows those great ideas are just nonsense. That’s where it becomes entitlement too “give it to me, but do not expect it to you.” When talking about things like consent they say “no is a complete sentence” which is 100% true! But then when you say, “no” to their extra credit request after not doing a shred of homework it’s up to argue. Teaching in inner cities has always been this way. I was a student in inner city schools from the late 90s-early 2010s. They’ve never respected teachers there, either. I’ve seen teachers get attacked and items thrown at them for asking the class to be quiet. That’s why teachers only teach there to get those expensive loans paid off! It’s a sad state of affairs. Learning is a beautiful thing.
"I don't want to get too feisty." Thank God you did, and it would be great if more people did. Amazing that these kids are in elementary/middle school...based on your description I just assumed they were older. It makes me worry about the future.
I found this video today & I can sadly say that in 2022, none of this has changed. I worked as a teacher for 1.5 years & had to quit mid-semester after suffering a heart attack in front of a group of students who were behaving terribly (I'm 29 btw). My boss & even their parents said that I was the only one at fault for their behavior because I was "too strict" (asking them to participate in class, do work, not insult each other, the basics) but then also complained that I "wasn't giving class" (honestly, I tried but many times, I had to halt entire lessons just to stop students from physically assaulting each other). This was on top of comments about my race/ethnicity, my marital status, medical problems...It felt like I was going insane with no support & that things just kept getting worse. All I felt was frustration, sadness & regret by that point. Looking back at it now, I like teaching despite all of this. I like helping students grow and learn more about the world around them. I just wish that I could have the chance to do this in an environment where there was support from both the administration & the community towards teachers.
It's scary to think that these kids are our future; being raised in such a way that they lack accountability, responsibility & even empathy towards others. They act entitled & manipulative towards those around them which makes me wonder: what will happen the day that they don't get their way?
Holy shit. I am sorry that happened to you.
@@proudatheist2042 It's horrible but at least I got out. I was hoping that my replacement would have an easier time but it seems that they're just escalating with the behavior now.
Thanks for sharing your story, and I am sooo sorry you went through that awful experience!
@@JuniperJadePR I hope you find a better environment to work in, fulfillment, and radiant health.
Children want boundaries but at the same time if there are none set they want to see how far till someone or something pushes back. We raising monsters and in the future life is going to push back hard on those now adults and it will not be pretty! I already see it in kids just out of University and they have no clue.
I remember when I first started school and my mom kept it real with me. She said that if I was being treated unfairly then she would be in my corner but she also made it clear that if I am disrespectful to any adult or if I disrupt class in any way, I would be in big trouble. Parents need to make that known to their kids.
It sounds like our parents gave us the same speech.
As a parent I will tell you that is simply understood in my household
Thing is..a lot of these kids aren't being raised. They're just being had. Like they're accessories or something. These parents don't care what these kids turn into, and just let them into the world as is
This is too true. My mom works at a charter school and the amount of parents she deals with that just do not care about their children is gut wrenching. And as a Zillennial, a lot of my peers are following this same trajectory but at an even more accelerated rate. Children being born in Gen Alpha are nothing but sources of internet clout for their Zoomer parents and they don't get the actual love and attention they need. It's so sad.
Sad fact
I worked at Sephora back in 2006-2011 and we used to get the most godawful parents and kids in there that would wreck entire displays, thousands of dollars of merchandise, and the parents would just walk away without a peep. I would say the same thing to my fellow cast members, that these parents are having kids as a thing to do, like it’s obligatory or “fun” and then not following through on being actual parents.
Same thing when I saw some people my age having kids, then doing elaborate photo shoots with them, getting designer clothes for the kids, but then when you saw them in person they would literally just ignore them even if they were throwing a fit or wanting affection. The parents couldn’t care less, just handed them iPads and went on back to doing whatever. They couldn’t be bothered.
Welp, now those very same IG accessory kids are now the middle schoolers and high schoolers I was teaching the last 5 years. They have turned out exactly like I thought they would, and the parents are just as insufferable now as they were back when I worked in retail. I’m so glad I never wanted kids because I could never willingly interact with parents like that on a regular, personal basis.
And I’m even more glad that I got let go in May after teaching for those 5 years. Not sure what I’ll do next, but it sure as hell won’t be teaching.
Mexican parents do this a lot
@@SoltoWolf92 I think that other nationalities also do the same thing.
As a student I’m honestly quite appalled by my peers. Back in Junior high a student in my Spanish class drove the substitute to tears and when she threatened to send him to the principal he refused, cussed at her, and told her that she wasn’t allowed in the classroom anymore. I feel horrible for teachers in this age.
Funny you should mention that. In my spanish class back in high school our substitute teacher was also driven to tears because the boys would always tease her in a sexually indicative way, which made the teacher incredibly uncomfortable. I went to an international school in the 2000s in the Philippines, and it was pretty chill from my perspective as a student. I wonder how it is now though.
My kids go to a Catholic school and we have new students this year who act like this. Administration is taking everyone who applies, even kids who were expelled from their other schools.
Ranny This is the problem with "public schools", they are forced to tolerate the "public" instead of expelling anyone who does not desire to learn.
@@snowps1 Yeah, that happened one year when more than half of the 6th Graders at my former parochial school arrived at the school midway through the school year. I was like, something's really wrong here. It's one thing to get a wave of all new students at the beginning of a school year. But in the middle of the year?! Needless to say, every one of those students was disruptive and defiant. And the Principal did absolutely nothing about it. She even said to all of us middle school teachers, "We'll just have to suffer with them until they graduate." Wow. Such incompetence!
Why didn't you put him in his place
Here's something crazy for y'all: when I was 7 years old (almost 30 years ago) the teacher would enter the classroom before the lesson, and all the children stood up (no questions asked), greeted the teacher and waited for her to let us sit down. Everybody did it. Can you imagine.
Well something's going to have to go on because I can't even get myself to barely go back to substitute teaching and no one wants to do any of it so we're going to have a big problem with all this
Students still greet teachers today in south east asian schools. Seems like a poor culture of raising children in the United States.
Never seen a student ever openly badmouth a teacher to their face, let alone get in physical fights.
@@yujiakweh it’s not just the US. I just read another comment on this video about a teacher from Spain who also had to deal with problem students. He brought up the fact that the students don’t respect authority and was fired the next day.
Ma’am you’re making me feel old
@@Hyper_Drud
I'm from the Czech Republic, and the kids are still doing this here. Sure, we have a few cases of teacher bullying (but that's talked about in nationwide television news, so imagine how rare it is) but no one can afford to attack teachers, without consequences.
Of course, this is just an overall simplification. But even so, what's happening in the US seems crazy to me!
As a teacher of 28 years I can say that you are 100% correct. Year after year I tried so many behavior strategies. I never had support from administration. Whenever a child misbehaved it was always my fault. After 25 years a student made up a complete lie about me and had all of his friends back him up. He and his friends had terrible behavior records. A few students in the class who were really good kids told the administration that the other kids were lying. It didn’t matter. A substitute teacher overheard the bad kids say that they had planned the whole thing. The substitute was quickly fired. The administration forced me to resign. I moved to a charter school where children are expected to be polite and work hard for their grades. I now have 98% parent support. It has made all of the difference in the world. I wish I knew schools like this existed sooner.
Wow I'm so sorry you went through that, but I am so glad to hear that you are in a healthier environment ❤
I’m in a charter and…
@@kiaj.d.5855 And? I'm guessing it depends on the school district.
I am so sorry 😞 that happened to you.
Glad you found something that works better. That prioradmin should be replaced. Go to school board meetings, make this lack of support known. Over and over if necessary.
Also, schools won't discipline or have consequences for students at all. They do "restorative circles" so no one's feelings are hurt. Then they return to class knowing they just manipulated the shit out of everyone. That's what they're learning.
I totally agree, it is so frustrating :(
Oh gosh! Bingo! Restorative circles and a sucker!
Lmao my schools policy is also literally called "restorative circles" and the funny thing is the counselors never come to facilitate them when they know incidents have happened
I agree and i realized we’re going to have a generation of people who are going to be master manipulators. Because they aren’t learning to be better people they are learning how to manipulate the system. Its really society fault because for some reason we lack accountability more soo than usual
We’ve had students threaten to shoot up the school. Students doing sexual things in bathroom. One female student has been going around grabbing genitals. They did NOT have consequences. The administration acts like they are afraid of parents or just don’t care.
The fact that you made this video BEFORE the ridiculousness of COVID teaching is even more telling of how bad things have gotten...
Yeah, I thought she talked about her covid experience, then I saw the publication date.
Honestlyyyy!
They're worst before and they're even much, much worst now.
I graduated Education with a degree and a license but when a pandemic hit I stop pursuing it since I don't feel the spark of teaching with rude students, snake teachers and unreasonable admin.
true, cant blame it on covid as many do
BAD is an understatement. Our society will fail because we are not willing to even NAME what is wrong. Thank you for your courage to do so despite the hate that arises from it...
well when society can't even define what a woman is, what do you expect?
@@BIGBIRDSMEAL that won't always work and can sometimes yield the opposite intended effect
Liberalism is killing society and making us more degenerate. Funny thing is, most of these teachers nowadays are also liberals kind of nudging their student’s towards that direction
agree, speaking the truth about abusive behavior offends people today... all crazy
I’m an older gen z and I noticed this behavior in my peers when I graduated high school 6 years ago. My mom wouldn’t tolerate any of the behavior I see kids doing now 💀
Same here. My mom would regularly let me know that if she ever found out that I was acting the way some of these other kids were, my “ass was grass” 😂😂😂 it worked. You’ve got to teach your kids discipline
Definitely also an older gen z. I had close friends saying the nastiest stuff about teachers and then smile in class. My mother raised me to respect authorities because hey, you have lived here and probably know more about life than me, I am going to give elders and authorities the benefit of the doubt, and that benefit is called "respect". But my peers just didn't respect anyone. And when I met their parents I could understand where their behavior came from.
@@lauren6509 I graduated in 2016. I remember my senior year in my ceramics class one of the underclassmen threw clay at my teacher. I know she does not get paid enough to deal with that shit. IDK how these kids are going to become functioning members of society some day, they never face consequences for their actions, and expect it to stay that way when they get into the real world
I'm not an older gen z, I graduated 2020 and honestly same... my peers have been nothing but disrespectful to teachers, and if it was a substitute it was worse. One student put hand sanitizer in one of our math teachers coffee and he got real sick. This makes me nervous thinking about how some of us are going to continue on in the future.
You guys got really screwed. I was raised to be tough and self-reliant, respectful and kind, but also honest and fair - like everyone in my family was. I'm more grateful for that everyday that goes by. Not having been raised that way, a lot of you will never be able to do those things, and those of you who do will have to work a lot harder and it'll hurt a lot more.
I overcame all the teacher problems by leaving the profession. It just isn't worth destroying your mental health for any pay check. No amount is worth it to work with and for abusive people.
I agree 1000% 👍 💯
@@TeacherTherapy 10000000000000% agree!
Totally agree! I did a career change into teaching, and less than 1 year after getting my credential I'm ready to go back into the line of work I had prior to earning my credential.
So, if you don’t mind me asking, what line of work did you change to?
I left too after 15 years.
It all comes down to PARENTING. Kids will behave how their parents allow them to. Parents are supposed to provide guidance and discipline (which is hard) along with love and affection (the easy part).
It may be untreated mental health issues too. A lot of the kids that frustrated me in school with this behavior turned out to be neurodivergent. Or maybe their parents are so strict the only place they feel they can be themselves is school.
@@HopeGardner3amed This! I was abused at home with extremely religious strict parents. Another thing I struggled with is undiagnosed bipolar disorder so I was extremely fidgety at times and if a teach was rude to me I wasn't going to let it go for the rest of the year. I'd had about enough at that point in my life with most authority figures mistreating me, that being in school was difficult. I had some good teachers who encouraged me and were kind, and I'll always remember that.
And some of those mental issues start at home too. Not popular to say but I find so many kids are not nurtured enough in infancy because parents are either over worked or absent due to their own issues. These kids act out to get the attention they didn't get at home. They need to have solid relationships with a loving parent in order to have basic social skills for school.
Ultimately kids will behave as their parents behaved most bad behavior is not acquired by the child it is taught by the parents
Jordon Petersen make a really good point when he said, 'don't let your children do anything that causes you to dislike them.' As a parent you're preparing your children to go out into the world. If they have not been trained, disciplined, sooner or later they'll get themselves into trouble in society they must engage with. If you're the parent, and you don't like your child due to their behavior, just think how the rest of the world will be seeing them.
My kids became more disrespectful and rude once starting school and my son thinks that he must get rewarded for good behavior at home because a lot of his teachers in the schools where I live give prizes for good behavior. I’m constantly telling my son that being a good person and following rules doesn’t always get you rewards. I believe a lot of this genZ behavior is learned from each other more then the home in most cases not saying parents are completely blameless. I don’t allow my kids on social media because it’s just a breeding ground of disrespect, pushing of stupid and sometimes dangerous trends,bullying, and hate. And so many parents look at me weirdly because I don’t let my kids on social media or let them watch certain movies or tv or play certain video games.
im 15 and having social media since i was so young has messed me up im glad there are parents like you who are stopping their kids from this
Good job with the social media, you sound like a good parent. I don’t know about Snapchat and Instagram and stuff like that, but everything I hear about Twitter is that it’s a cesspool. I don’t even really know what the point of them are. To me, talking at school was enough. To others who are more social, maybe throw in group chats and texting.
While I commend you on your efforts to raise a decent person (your child, or children), I hate to be the bearer of bad news insomuch that in many areas of the USA, social engineering constructs have been in place for awhile now. This affects all of us either directly or indirectly.
I suspect the "giving prizes for good behavior" is mere social conditioning of the masses when the social credit system is implemented... "snitching" on others will be deemed good behavior and rewarded accordingly for example.
Kudos for actually playing a role in your kids upbringing and the media they consume, you'd be surprised how many parents are just letting their kids do anything they want without any supervision, letting media raise their children.
They are bad teachers too.
I’m older Gen Z, and I have seen a ton of the behaviors you mentioned during my lifeguarding jobs. Especially the disregard to authority, debating the rules, and parents arguing their kid can be the exception to the rules that are meant to keep everyone safe.
I was lucky because my managers were really good and didn’t let difficult patrons walk all over us, so I can’t imagine how difficult it is to have a job where management will side against you or not believe you.
Among school administrators, if something goes wrong, it's the teacher's fault. That the default response.
I remember a few years ago I got a call from one of my kids teachers. A kid was bothering mine during a lecture and finally my kid snapped at him(the other kid) and cussed him out in front of the class. Both kids got removed. The instigator got punished mine just got fussed at. So the teacher calls me to explain the situation. I listen quietly while the teacher is hemming and hawing and sounds soooo uncomfortable. After the explanation I thanked him for letting me know and I would talk to my kid about dropping f bombs in class. I will never forget the huge sigh of relief this guy made. It sounded like a load of weight just lifted off his shoulders and I thought he was going to start crying. I truly believe he thought I was going to scream at him or something. I can't fathom what teachers go through and they have my respect.
Thank you! :)
I worked with babies and toddlers before and just calling parents to say the kid had a fever and had to go home was risking getting yelled at and having a parent dislike you for weeks
It just seems to be reflecting society in general these days. Entitled parents raise entitled kids. Entitlement leads to things like a lack of work ethic, defiance, being opinionated, etc. People expect to be coddled and validated instead of working through adversity, especially when they're in the wrong.
This is what I’m thinking when all of these people say “it’s the parents”, true, but who raised the parents. American society is vile. The internet has bled into real life. I see 40 and 50 year olds working retail who are awful people, genuinely.
@jasminewilliams1673 Yes!! "Children are a map of their parents." And looking at today's parents, I'd say their parents failed them miserably. Not to point fingers, but I'm looking at you, Gen X and Boomers. A lot of you are raising your grandchildren because you failed to raise your own children properly. Learn from your mistakes and raise those grandchildren correctly or you'll be raising your great-grandchildren, too.
I was a first year teacher last year and saw most of the things you brought up. One of the big things for me was that a lot of students were not just disinterested in what I was teaching but were fully apathetic or even just hated it. It's something that went beyond the standard "When will we ever use this?" and verntured into almost straight up anti-intellectualism. In my mind that's one of the worst things. To work on a lesson and go up there and teach it with all the passion you got and look up to a bunch of blank stares. I guess I saw the writing on the wall because I am not a teacher this year.
My generation definitely has a lot of misguided nihilism. I mean you're dealing with climate change, covid, our capitol being invaded by angry adults, happening all around you and being able to see that whenever you want on you're phone. While also being a kid and not understanding how to process it. Where I'm from a lot of kids have to deal with the threat of absolute poverty, racism, sexism and homophobia both in the real world and virtually. And the usual teenage woes of abusive parents, anxiety, undiagnosed mental problems, low self esteem and stupid decision (drug use, sex, violence) because your still a stupid kid. While at the same time being told were to sensitive and we have it easy. That we should forget about all of that and focus on school. We should be grateful for even being alive. That's not an excuse, just a possible explanation for why learning is taking a backseat in some of these kids minds.
I hated school and doing school work. I was not the least bit interested in anything I was being taught, but I still did it anyways.
@@johnindigo5477 I don't know if that's the whole story. Look at what the Baby Boom generation in the US had to deal with in the 60s:
The Cold War and the threat of nuclear annihilation
Being drafted to fight in the Vietnam War
Jim Crow
Assassinations of politicians, civil rights leaders, and revolutionaries
For the first time, you could see all of this instantaneously by just turning on the TV
Homosexuality classified as a mental disorder
And yet in spite of all these social problems, students respected teachers more and put in more effort. I have a sincere question for you, one that I don't know how to answer. Why do social problems cause school problems now, but not then?
Honestly, my class starts to cause problems mainly when the teacher is bored with his own subject (the teacher looks out the window for an hour or looks at the phone when we rewrite what we already have in the textbook) or when he can't explain.
On the contrary, teachers who are passionate about their subject will receive a completely different attention (of course, if someone does not like math, the best teacher will not help.) Then there are cases where the teacher is enthusiastic about his subject, but can not pass it properly. That's the worst. For both teachers and students.
But it was interesting to watch it in my class now. The old teacher went on vacation. His lessons were very monotonous and lifeless, because he basically just gave us a presentation on the board and had us write it down. His lessons were in the middle of the day, and the class was quite inattentive and at times disturbing.
The new teacher used his presentation out of respect, but she gave us a lesson in a completely different way. She involved the class in discussions, described differences in monuments, added explanations of terms. And the lessons moved to zero (they were an hour earlier than school normally started). Despite the bad timing of the lesson (we don't normally pay much attention in the morning), the whole class was exemplary and enthusiastic. We honestly don't want our old teacher back.
Some people just can't learn. Of course, this may not be your case, but it is something to keep in mind. Not everyone is a good teacher, it's not enough to just love your subject.
@@johnindigo5477 yeah you nailed it. Gen z has a general distrust of the future because they grew up with access to recordings of the futility of activism trying to get genuine good change to happen
I had some brutally messed up students. Their parents were negligent or abusive, and putting those kids in my class was like setting off a bomb. No one was able to function. This was 15 years ago. I left, took my young kids out, and we joined a classical homeschooling community until my kids left for college. I taught privately for 8 years in that community to AMAZING kids raised by loving parents. They were so respectful to me (except two out of about 80 kids). My kids were surrounded by great kids and it really shaped them. They are now in college or graduated and married. GET OUT IF YOU CAN!! My kids thrived and so did I. Best teaching experience. I miss it.
Homeschooling is the future
That sounds amazing! Out of curiosity, how big were the groups you would teach I this community? Or did the children have their lessons individually? I'm not too familiar with homeschooling practices
@@tyd8077 pretty bleak future if that is the "solution." Homeschooling comes with a whole list of substantial issues in its own right.
@@bengallup9321 you sound like someone who has never been in a modern classroom before. That's what's "bleak".
@@bengallup9321 you are ignorant. Many parents homeschool Ava their children turn out fantastic
Pretty soon, we’re not going to have any more teachers if they keep being treated so badly. I’m so sorry this is happening.
Society would benefit from that.
It's already an issue
@@drakirolopez7859 How would a dearth of teachers be good for society? Bad parenting is bad parenting.
@@drakirolopez7859 Yes, ignorance and anti intellectualism is so good for society /s Parents complain but I don't see them doing a better job of teaching their children or instilling in them how important education and just knowledge in general is.
Then the military will teach them. Or the just the state itself and it will be worse. Anything run by the state is worse.
After Covid, I've seen a huge decline in the social skills of my students. Teaching is already a stressful job. So many teachers quit. I think what most people don't understand is that teachers don't get to clock out. They constantly think about their lessons, admin, etc....when out of school. It is actually a very demanding job
Yes, teaching is a much harder job than many people think. The unfortunate thing is that teaching LOOKS easy to those on the outside looking in. But it's NOT easy. Outsiders don't see everything we do, or how long it takes, or how much work it actually is.
I am a young teacher and I cannot believe how much has changed since I left my K-12 education. Students say things to me on a daily basis that nobody would have dreamed of saying to a teacher "back in my day." And where. are. the. PARENTS!
Omg I know, I'm a TA for prek-1st, they all have smart watches and call their moms for everything and have AD(H)D attention spans because they're used to being on ipads for hours on end
Just get them expelled and stop whining?
@@drakirolopez7859 That’s…not a thing.
Both the parents are too busy working. Hard to have a single income household in this economy, especially with kids. I feel like that's what's going unsaid in this video. That attention seeking rebellious behavior is a result of parents not paying proper attention to their kids. I had a friend growing up who was an absolute nightmare to have in class and it was all because her parents neglected her.
@@drakirolopez7859 lolol that’s another think that has changed. And your comment goes to show how out of touch non teachers are in regard to what goes on in the classroom.
There was a school district I worked at - the principal's office was a revolving door. Nothing seemed to change about the students who went in there and came out again. I was called to some of the student-principal meetings, and the principal asked the student every time, "What can (my name) do better to help you?" She said it every time without fail, and it seemed that she was targeting me and failing to target the student's behavior. In the assigned book for new teachers at that district, the book explained that every time a student misbehaves, it is partially the teacher's fault - this is complete bunk, as there is a growing maliciousness in students' refusal to comply. Also at that school - there was a student who was taller than I was, and he used his height to intimidate me each time I called him out for his behavior. Then he had the gall to say I was unfairly targeting him when I asked him to stop talking.
Another school - a student kept talking through the Zoom meeting we were using for class during COVID. He refused to stop, even when asked several times. I eventually had to block him from talking by removing him from the Zoom meet and adding him back whenever he was more compliant. His mother sat right next to him, and could have prevented him from talking out of turn - instead, she chose to threaten the school district (and me) with a lawsuit (on Facebook) because I showed a video for children about Halloween superstitions - this was a seasonal add-on for a unit we had finished on fairy tales. Later, she started (loudly) participating during a social studies class (on Zoom) where I quizzed students on famous landmarks. It was her way of letting me know she was there, watching me and the class - well, watch me walk away.
At another district, a student refuses to comply with the simplest instructions, and trashes the room when he doesn't get what he wants. He broke something that was on my desk that cost $100 (I was using it as part of an afterschool program, and I bought it with my own money). I haven't heard a word from his parents or from the administration about replacing it.
This is my last year - my initial license expires at the end of the current school year. I am going to grad school in the fall - not for a Master's in education, but for a science discipline so I can become a researcher, museum worker, or an industry consultant. My personality is not suited to teaching, let alone battling a four-pronged assault by students, parents, administrators, and other teachers.
It struck me today - there was only one set of parents who ever asked me the question, "What can we do at home to help support our child?" Five years of teaching, and only one set of parents cared to ask that question.
I just applied to a Master of Science program. I’m done with teaching.
YES! Why is this they way things are. Students don't seem to feel any shame for their disrespect. They just complain that teachers are awful and mean, and need to change. And then principals side with the students - WHAT HAS HAPPENED?! I really don't get it.
People are forgetting we're all people, and only see others as antagonists. It's sad....
@Big Dog I have worked at an elementary school now for 7 years...I have been an aide in 2nd - 4th grade classrooms, so I have had the pleasure of working alongside some great teachers. Unless you are a teacher or a classroom aide you have no idea what teachers have to put up with. They want to teach...they want the kids that they do teach to be successful in life. They understand that different kids learn in different ways. But when you have a kid that will sit and totally not pick up a pencil, or do their classwork, or act out and cause a disruption while the teacher is trying to teach it can be difficult. If the kids go through their school years being disrespectful, not wanting to do their classwork or homework, what do you think is going to happen to them when they get out into the real world? I went to elementary school in the late 60's. I can tell you that we would have never have dreamed of acting out in class the way these kids are doing. These kids are given many chances to make good choices before they even make it to the principals office. When I went to school the students knew that if they misbehaved in class the teacher would send them to the principals office...we were not given all of these chances to disrupt the learning of other students. Don't get me wrong...there are a lot of wonderful kids and parents out there. I enjoyed being with the students...watching them learn...and just talking with them. But I knew I would burn out if I tried to become a teacher. Believe me trying to teach and keep 25 kids engaged, when you also have to try and manage kids not behaving is a very hard job....so please don't judge teachers unless you have been one yourself or worked in a classroom.
@Big Dog Go do your homework
My mother has been a high school teacher for over 25 years now and she says student anxiety has also gone through the roof. Due to covid, her school has had no exams for 3 years and some teachers are arguing there should be none at all. At the first mention of a test, many students panic. "You mean I can't use a phone? I can't do it with my friend? I have to study? I don't know how to do that!" They have no confidence in their own ability to do work because they've never had to do any. On the other hand, they see the exams as this looming 'If you fail this exam or this class you are doomed for life and will never go to university or amount to anything!' But high school is the perfect time to fail an exam or a class before there are bigger real life consequences. It's nearly impossible to fail a class anyways. The students are scared and feel helpless to help themselves acheive. Adults have done this to them and it's sad.
I almost failed out of high school but graduated Summa Cum Laude from university. You couldn't have PAID me to lift a finger in high school. When I began university I discovered that learning could be interesting when a professor was. (And I didn't have to bother with nuisance courses such as math and science, which I could simply take Pass/Fail.) The mediocrities who teach high school--and have, since high school was invented--are the real reason students don't learn.
I can’t imagine why other teachers would argue for no exams at all. What’s going to happen to these kids when they get to college then? They won’t be prepared at all and it’s very possible to fail a college course.
@@frankiec3659 Yes, you'd think the problem of "what about college?" would be obvious to a group of people who themselves had to go to university. However this doesn't seem to be the case. Some argue that exams don't accurately prove a student knows anything anyways, just that they're good at taking tests. Test taking 'doesn't suit the learning style of all children' after all so "let's do projects and essays to measure knowledge instead." Which can work well for a subject like English, not so well for a subject like math. No one wants to accept the reality that some kids just don't have much aptitude for certain subjects (like math) and hope that evaluations with more subjective grading can help everyone get that A.
Others argue that at 18, they'll finally be 'old enough' to handle the stresses and requirements of exam prep. But the whole reason you have kids write exams in middle and high school is so that they develop exam skills and confidence before their GPA and tuition fees are on the line. I guess a decade from now teachers in university can be the ones to sit down and talk about how exams are useless and too scary for 'the kids'. Maybe we should put them off until 30, because they'll be ready to handle it then? I don't know.
@@fangirl7914 k-12 isn't a massive college prep though. We as a society have been fooled into thinking that a 4-year college education is essential to have in the workforce even though A. most people don't even use their degree after university and B. most developed nations operate just fine without the majority of their population is college-educated.
@@yoditgudit6578 the majority of american society doesn’t currently have a degree either though. Not even half
In my experience, the core problem isn't the bad students, but parents who aren't adequately parenting and admin that is not adequately administrating. Combined, that stuff encourages bad behavior, and encourages it to spread.
It leads directly to lack of respect for legitimate authority.
@Cassandra Tafoya Yes, it is developmentally normal for kids to test boundaries, but it is important for parents and administrators to also limit how far they push by creating certain boundaries, and setting expectations, with positive reinforcements and related consequences.
YES teachers absolutely need to be allowed to set healthy boundaries and create reasonable expectations of behavior that lead to growth!
But without parents and administrators backing them up, they are 98% hamstrung and will likely just burn out.
It is awful.
So, can your students complain to you that this is too much homework?
Yes. But not endlessly.
It would be more fruitful for them be involved in brainstorming ways to make *some* work done outside the class more effective or interesting, with teacher having the final say, of course.
And if a student still refuses to do a reasonable amount of homework, even after the teacher engages and tries to find out the problem,
the natural consequence is a proportionally lower grade.
If a parent comes to the teacher and says, I had no idea he was throwing out his homework, is there an online portal where I can see the assignments? That's constructive!
If a parent says, I will try to enforce homework from now on, but is there any way at all she could do makeup work to improve her grade before the quarter ends? That is constructive!
When a parent comes in and bullies a teacher about the low grade, or simply doesn't show up at all because they just don't care (or are working poor or in crisis and don't have the bandwidth to even address the problem) all of that is corrosive and makes the teacher's job nearly impossible.
If a teacher is bullied by parents for the low grade and administration does not back the teacher up, that is TOXIC.
If students constantly disrupt class and aren't removed, or they threaten or put their hands on or repeatedly insult the teacher or other students, or leave the room without permission,
And they are not redirected and corrected in effective and meaningful ways by parents or admin, that is TOXIC.
If that happens too much, that teacher will eventually just burn out!
Not sure why this video was recommended to me, considering the fact that I'm of gen z(2002), but I honestly agree with you. I'm in my first year of college now, but I noticed soooo much of what you pointed out in my middle and high school years, that it's funny. I especially agree in regards to respecting authority, rudeness, and a lack of work ethic. Students argued with teachers all the time over the smallest of small things. They would be rude and get sent out of class happily like they were proud of what they did, as well as pull out the ol' "go ahead, call my mama, I don't care!" Lastly, that work ethic is just non existent for a lot of people my age, whether it be in school or even at work. I often find myself relating more to millennials I've met through work than most my own age. Anyway, It's not all of us and I hope things get better. Live strong!
Thank you so much for sharing this! Its good to know that I am not just a cranky old woman! haha! :)
Holy crap she’s 1000% right.
And this past Saturday morning, I texted 68 families homes to inform them that their students are missing so much work and that they have till Sunday night at midnight to get it all done so I can grade one last time before progress reports. It took nearly two hours just to send all of the texts. Especially once a few parents began to text back.
By Sat night at 7 I had 57 assignments submitted. Things that should have been submitted over the previous month and where I’d given 5 days of make up time over the five weeks previous. It’s disgusting how few assignments were turned in. I’m thinking to text for the next few weekends if the students don’t do their work during class time. I’m so sick of student apathy and complacency. I really almost want them to fire me over my other status due to Biden’s mandate. I’ll sell my house and go live off grid without owing anyone anything.
Only 4 student’s parents responded which is surprising. One argued what type of assignments they are. Which is still amazing. Right now, besides last year, these are the easiest years for students in my 25 yrs of teaching. Their work is far less than years past-and they don’t want to do that. It’s ridiculous!
Sad cause man, how I love teaching literature and writing.
I can relate so much! I did find that texting parents helped a lot although it was a lot of work on the front end & parents often didn't reply back, but then assignments started rolling in. I used Google Voice to text so that I had a record of the conversations, and I could easily copy & paste responses. It also protected my true cell phone number. :) I know how hard it is to love your subject and have kids totally ignore it; I think that is especially true for English and Literature subjects these days. I think you are doing a great job, and Kuddos to you for staying in for 25 years that is incredible!
Facts af.
Oh yeah! I tell my students, "When I was your age, I had new homework assignments every night that were due the next day. No extensions. No excuses. And we EARNED our good grades. No freebies."
What is bidens mandate?
Text them? That's was your first mistake.
I am a new teacher and am feeling everything you said. I also find it important that this video was before Covid hit. Everyone in the field wants to blame covid for the behavior but it MUST be more than that. There is so much laziness. Headphones in all the time, entitlement, and ignoring teachers. It is crazy how disrespectful students are these days.
It is crazy that kids can sit in class with headphones on, listening to/watching something on their phones, and all teachers can do is ASK them to stop and pay attention, with no consequences for not complying. Teachers are supposed to be glad the kids are not disrupting or harming other students. Students are begging for limits and admin/school board says no.
Yes. Schools have spent all this money on 'technology' so their kids can have the 'best' education. The technology is part of the problem. Kids use it to be lazy, cheat, and share inappropriate things. They aren't learning to research with it. Phones and technology in the classroom are used poorly. It's toxic to give a child an iPhone.
What I remember in high school was that whenever the phone issue got bad in any of my classes, teachers would have every student's phone taken at the beginning of class and then returned in the end of class for the rest of the school year. It worked pretty well (I graduated in 2018, so maybe this isn't relevant if you're doing Zoom classes, if the school district you work at still has them). I think it's fair because kids shouldn't really be using their phones during lectures or while doing assignments anyway, and as long as the kids got their phones back at the end of class, hardly anyone complained. I sure didn't care, and I actually noticed that more kids were getting their work done. Honestly, I feel like it was the only method that worked (or at least the only one I've seen teachers use that has worked).
I respect you for having the patience to deal with them. Those kind of kids need to be humbled.
I also wish that schools made it a rule where all kids were required to leave their phones with each teacher until the end of class. I honestly think that's the number one biggest thing that's stopping students from focusing on their work or their teacher's lectures. I'm not saying that the students will be perfect, but it would reduce a lot of issues. Plus I'd imagine that it will encourage more kids to be social as well.
Why do they have to automatically respect you? Because you're an "authority figure"? F that! What have you done to try to connect with them and earn their respect? Sounds like your the one that needs to grow up...
@@shadowdemon2272 Uh, because they're the people who are trying to prepare you for adulthood? Good luck getting anywhere in life with that kind of attitude. See how long you last at a job. You're the one who needs to grow up.
god, as a grade school kid with a shitty chaotic home life, i needed structure at school so badly. i grew up having the same classmates every year from first grade to high school with teachers who gave a shit and were teaching in a real world classroom. i still had issues, but being in a stable environment with rules and other well-behaved kids was absolutely crucial for me and i'd have been lost without them. i'm sure a lot of kids today didn't choose the sort of behaviour you've experienced, it's just what they've picked up to get along. not an excuse, just saying this is what some of these kids have done to fend for themselves at home, in their social lives and, now at school.
That is very true! Thanks for sharing!
I wonder how much of what is going on is overcompensation: Blind obedience is bad, so NEVER obey. Getting no compensation for work is bad, so ALWAYS expect reward. "Noone will look out for you, so look out for yourself!". Somewhere in there, the actual lesson the kids should have is sadly lost: Question authoriuty when needed, but accept it when valid. Don't just work "for the experience" for the big corporation while you can barely pay for food, but grab what learning opportunities you get. This balance is HARD... and the current state is maximum pushback against the teachers. I feel for you! But let's give this generation a chance: they may just find their way in the end, like all of us did!
This 👍
I commend the majority of what you said. However, I disagree on with your "find their way in the end, like all of us did!" Because there are people our ages and older that have always placed themselves in dire situations. Not everyone "gets on their feet" well.
Beautifully said.
I NEVER yelled at a teacher nor spit, throw stuff etc. Its called basic respect for all humans. Manners are important at every age, WHY IS IT OK FOR KIDS TO MISBEHAVE AND DO WHATEVER TF THEY WANT WITH NO CONSEQUENCES. That is NOT good, having that attitude with result in so much chaos in the future.
@@louisebarrett7366 Cause that's all they've ever seen adults do and they know the economy is a giant scam so why bother
The kids’ behavior can be controlled if the school admin supports teachers by establishing a culture that doesn’t tolerate disrespect…. But if the school is scared of the district or parents things can get bad.
I just want parents who are so combative to teach their own kids
They do! They teach them to also be combative. Pay attention.
When those parents had to “help” teach their kids during COVID, they complained bitterly.
I worked in a reform school for 6 yrs and a big part of the problem is that when a kid does something wrong and the school disciplines them ..the parent will come to the school and threaten the school for trying to the right thing by the kid
@@nomadprofessor4314 Yup. They did. And I stated that if the parent -- who controls the TV, the internet, the clothes, and the food -- can't get their kids to do any work, what hope does the teacher have?
No you don't.
It'll be a massively negative impact on society as a whole.
Edit: full disclosure, I don't think any parent should be inherently trusted to raise a child, they should have to prove that they can do as the job as well as the average qualified childcare provider.
Student misbehavior had grown exponentially worse since around 2000. I’ve tried everything that’s legal. My only solution is to run away.
The education system has moved from education to indoctrination. We are screwed
It seems like it got way worse since social media and smartphones
Agreed. My first year of teaching was the 2000/2001 school year. I’ve watched it decline steadily since then.
@@angelat.8997 why do you think that is? I went to public school in the 80s. We practically had a dress code. We would never behave this way
This is interesting as I just commented how I recently watched the Woodstock 99 doc on hbo, and thought to myself well if these are the people who now have gen z kids, it makes sense. The theme of the entire doc was essentially 350k crowd giving a big ol fuck you to any authority.
It's been that way for quite a while... probably since the 90s at a minimum.
People seem so hostile to the concept of generational differences - I can't count how many times I've seen people bring up the quote from Plato about the youth of his day being unruly (over 2000 years ago). Guess what, Plato's children didn't have social media and 24/7 access to the internet. Generational differences have to be an open topic when society and social interaction itself is changing so rapidly and unpredictably for the past 30 years.
Thank you! You're brilliant! 👏 😀
But the elephant in the room isn’t that generational differences exist, it’s the blatant disrespect and unwillingness to accept authority or directives from those that have authority over you (adults/teachers). 2000 years ago and 2000 years from now, students will still need to take and heed directions from authorities.
This is a huge part of why I homeschool my kids. I really do not want my children growing up around all of these kids with zero manners. If my kids were in school, I would never in a million years side with THEM over the teacher in circumstances like you mention. That's so, so insane to me.
Yes! I worry that all of my hard work teaching manners and respect would be wiped out so quickly if I let my children in public school. I honestly believe that homeschooling is the only option at this point.
As a Gen Z kid who is now studying to be a teacher, I think people misunderstand my generation a lot. I myself have experienced a stark difference at home and school, but perhaps not in the way older folks expect. My parents had rules and they had punishments, but above all I knew I could talk to them and my opinion would be respected. If I felt something was unfair, I could ask why I needed to do it and my parents would actually explain the purpose of the thing, as opposed to just telling me to do it. They gave me reasons to find motivation to complete a task, rather than force me to complete a task regardless.
I have never met a teacher that took kindly to me asking why. Especially as a neurodivergent kid, having a teacher who would just tell me that I had to do something because I had to without actually explaining the reasoning behind it made me incredibly frustrated. Certain teachers believed they were owed total obedience and respect without demonstrating that they deserved it. I respect my parents because they treat me like a person, not because “they’re my parents and they’re going to kill me if I don’t”. I get that can sound like entitlement from the outside, but it’s a matter of being treated like I have value. Children are not soldiers, they are learning to be adults, and if they’re taught that their opinion doesn’t matter, they’re never going to find the intrinsic motivation to work on schoolwork, let alone the motivation to work in the "real world".
As a kid with dyslexia, my sister had a much harder time than me, and she would constantly ask why she had to care about school. No one could give her a good reason why, since we knew dyslexic people who worked in construction and they led fairly successful lives. She knew that she could manage without college if she really tried, so she didn’t invest her energy in school. The only reason she cares about schoolwork now is because she goes to a specialized art school, where her reading load has been cut down and assignments are more creative. Because the core (English, math, etc.) teachers know the students are here for art first and foremost, they make it a point to teach kids things that apply to their interests and make a case for the usefulness of their classes. Geometry is necessary for sculpting, English is a great tool for analysis and another form of art, history can be inspiration and a lesson, and so on and so forth.
I don’t mean to disrespect any teachers who have struggled because of badly-behaved kids, I know it can be incredibly difficult to hold kids accountable. I’ve also learned from my own experience that bad kids are never held accountable, whether from a teacher’s side or a student’s side. When my elementary and middle schools noticed I was being bullied constantly, I was sent to school “counseling," where I was told that if I ignored the hurtful comments and walked away when someone started a fight, my bullies would stop. When I asked teachers for help, they usually declined. Whether it was because they knew that admin wouldn’t help or they just didn’t see it as a problem, I learned that adults do not uphold their end of the authority bargain to keep kids safe. When I was isolated and ignored by a former best friend and 40 of our 66 classmates, no one noticed or cared until I did something to retaliate that was more visible. All I did was write “I hate you” in our shared locker on a whiteboard I had brought, a sentiment I had expressed to her in person before without consequence, but that was enough to make teachers take action against me and isolate me further as a “problem child”.
My own life aside, I understand why teaching kids from my generation can be so frustrating, but please don’t call us “lazy”, or “entitled”. It’s hard to respect adults who can’t help us in times of need, whether they want to or not, and it’s made all the more difficult by early experiences with bad teachers.
edit: I wrote this late at night, so I tried to fix spelling errors and clarify a few things.
Older generations tended to belittle children like they have no capability of understanding so you get the, "do as I say, don't ask questions or else." We (genx and millennials) were raised to be people pleasers and yes-men under the threat of physical punishment. Luckily it looks like we're generally doing the opposite style of parenting compared to how we were raised. The way you describe your parents is exactly how I raise my kids.
You worded this sentiment much better than I could have.
I am older than Gen Z and have taught High Schoolers and I agree. Older generations need to realize that kids are people as well and so on.
I also think a lot of this is teachers not being properly supported both financially and politically! There is so much pressure on teachers to both teach, raise, and etc. but yet they are constantly ridiculed by conservative media and a lack of infrastructure in general. I think this sometimes gets taken out on students when it shouldn't.
It all boils down to what feels like generational growing pains (gen x and mill'ls parenting with patience and compassion) and just teachers not given the support they need to also teach with patience and compassion.
I’m mid-late millennial, graduated high school in 2010, also neuro-divergent. The media has been bashing my generation as a national pastime for two decades and counting. And I’ve never cared for my generation much, and some may have to do with being neuro-divergent and feeling like a strange person. It’s interesting to see an attack piece on Gen Z like this as there aren’t as many in the mainstream media, but rather “how to understand Gen Z”. But this isn’t the only piece that criticizes Gen Z. At that, it stinks to be part of a group that gets vilified, even when the “not all” line occurs. Guess we’re in a similar position being neuro-divergent and on the receiving ends of having our generations criticized (even if all generations have been), and guess you were raised better than most.
@@BUG25985 that is so true. The job is overworked, underpaid, and in an ever-increasing world of anxiety causes, but completely necessary for living.
I can't say how often I have wanted to ask, "Do you realize you are raising the person who will push your wheel chair, pick your home, food, and clothes a few years down the road? "
But the thing is that these kinds of kids won’t do anything like that for their parents. It’s heinous the way these kids are being raised. It’s detrimental not only to themselves as parents but society as a whole.
that's the problem our parents aren't raising us and were left with ourselves and social media to raise us.
@@klinert7693 Perhaps your parents didn’t raise you but parents and teachers who try aren’t successful because the reinforcement by your friends on social media to defy authority. That’s fine if it’s a good cause but the problems she is discussing eventually fall on your generation.
Being constantly confrontational and disrespectful to adults is something that will completely handicap you as adults. The education system is way too lenient on this. It’s why I didn’t pursue teaching. I grew up differently. Teachers were highly respected and they mentored me. That’s completely different now.
There is no success in life without respecting authority and basic manners. No adult will help you up in the world - promote you, etc., without them. Being rebellious is normal but being cruel and impossible is different.
If you don’t respect teachers or anyone else, you won’t respect a boss or a college professor and life will quickly knock you out of the game.
You will always serve someone in some capacity. You cannot blame everyone else either. Adults are expected to take responsibility for their behavior.
The system in education and parenting is enabling this bad behavior too. Children should not run the show because they can’t. That’s nature - not social choice. Allowing that to happen becomes “Lord of the Flies.”
Adults need to guide children but today, social media overrides adult power and gives power to children, whose brains aren’t developed enough to run the show.
It’s upside down and out of balance and it’s adults fault but it’s also the responsibility of children to show some level of respect and acknowledgment of rules and social norms.
I find this trend very disturbing for your generation-because it will never lead to professional or personal respect and success. Unless you are satisfied with being a retail clerk at Walmart forever-but even there, there are responsibilities and authority. There is no island where only you are in control.
@@edl6398 thats what im trying to say my generation doesn't know what or why there fighting i completely agree with you. i think my gen doesn't know how to avoid conflict because they want some from of attention. I agree phones are certainly a problem if there given before a person is fully developed. i find most people my age just want their own freedom even if its not really freedom, they don't recognize the freedoms they do have within rules. we all know the saying "treat other how you want to be treated" i think my gen focuses on treat others how they treat you even if its disrespectful and that is wrong. we think that we have the right to have the freedom of speech and the freedom of expression and we don't realize we cant have to freedoms till were 18.
"The Supreme Court ruled in 1969 that students do not "shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate."" "You have the right to speak out, hand out flyers and petitions, and wear expressive clothing in school - as long as you don’t disrupt the functioning of the school or violate school policies that don’t hinge on the message expressed.
What counts as “disruptive” will vary by context, but a school disagreeing with your position or thinking your speech is controversial or in “bad taste” is not enough to qualify." "Schools can have rules that have nothing to do with the message expressed, like dress codes. So, for example, a school can prohibit you from wearing hats - because that rule is not based on what the hats say" -www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/students-rights/
Most of us don't mean to be disrespectful. If anything were most likely standing up for ourselves, for example if we aren't allowed to wear leggings or tank tops i would get in trouble for it but the person next to me wont, so of course i'm going to say something, i suppose disrespectful can mean different things for different people. some one might say being disrespectful is "talking back" or someone else might say its wasting someones time. but it still doesn't give my gen the right to "argue" or debate or trying to understand the thought process behind a certain rule. so on behalf of my delinquent Generation I formally apologize.
@@edl6398 *standing ovation*
SY 2021 here... This is my 10th year of teaching and since the lessons I've learned from my first 2 years of teaching, my classroom management has always been my strength... until this school year. You are absolutely 100% right about everything you discussed in this video. Kids know that there are no serious consequences for anything. It's been a hard year.
Consequences at school are even "impossible" when the parent also works at the school and literally rewards the kid for poor behavior. (I am seeing that this may be the "curse" of private schools. )
@@BobbiGail Oh yeah, private schools are extreme when it comes to student discipline--for better and for worse. Some are really good with it and some flat out SUCK! Private schools play favoritism among their students, teachers, and parents like it's nobody's business. If a family is wealthy they will literally buy their children off and pay the private school extra $$ to give their child special treatment and excuse them from every single rule of academic and social etiquette every single day. And the airhead admin. bow down to it/them! In reality: private schools and public schools are opposite sides of the same coin. They each have their own individual strengths and weaknesses. But in the end, neither institution is truly better or worse than the other. I attended both types of schools growing up and have worked in both types of schools as a teacher.
Thank you for continuing to share your experiences and videos they are far more relatable than you will ever know. As an educator I can certainly agree there has been a weird shift in the overall attitude towards education. Growing up in the late 90s and 2000s, even my peers who weren't "thrilled about learning" at least felt some compulsion to learn. Not the case anymore. Teaching/engaging/entertaining has turned into convincing kids that they should learn.
Thanks for your kind words! I totally agree with everything you said! I had actually turned my channel to private for over a year & I am just coming back today! 😁 I actually left the classroom for good this April and I hope to make a new video on the reasons I finally quit. Thanks for your support and have a great day!! 😄
Can we blame Gen Z for being as they r????? Boomers Failed to care to learn about Global Warming And we r literally watching our world heat up /burn right now. And our politicians ain’t caring enuff to change anything…. If I were Gen Z I’d b jaded.
And what about Gen Z watching their parents work harder, b higher educated And they r earning less (in comparison to ‘70’s). While at Same time Billionaires And Huge companies r paying Zero in taxes…
I personally can not blame Gen Z for being jaded.
@@TeacherTherapyAs a gen z student what do i do to get work ethic and all that stuff you complained about me
@Julie Lourdes this is the only one i use anyway. I had tiktok but i started to not be able to sit through anything, not even a longer tiktok video so i stopped. I like youtube for a lot of video essays and stuff like that. My only problem is sometimes i am creative and i want people to see it but there really seems to be no way to get it out there. And my problem mostly isnt getting school stuff done its getting literally anything that isnt school done
I find it really depressing and I'm not even a teacher.
How are teachers able to actually teach material in an atmosphere like this?!?! This is so disheartening to hear as a parent of a baby. I don’t want her school experience to be like this. Poor teachers.
Thank you for your sympathy, I wish all parents would see a video like this. Believe me, as a teacher (my kids are older 3s), we don't want children to experience school like this either. It's cruel to the well-behaved kids, that their days are constantly disrupted by those who are acting up, and it's cruel to the troubled kids, that they're constantly getting in trouble and are ill-prepared for the real world, because of the adults in their lives--the very people who should be guiding them firmly but lovingly are instead either coddling them or outright ignoring them. 💔
I know it's counterintuitive considering my position as a teacher lol, but I think ideally everyone should be homeschooled. The thing is, obviously this doesn't work in reality. Often, parents can't afford for even one to stay home (assuming it's even a two-parent home in the first place), or, heartbreakingly, "home" just isn't safe for the kids. Since most kids do go to school outside the home, parents and teachers all need to work together to turn society around so that schools are an enriching environment for both the kids and the teachers. If only it were simple enough for a few people to be able to do!
Thanks again for your sympathy, it's parents like you that truly make a positive difference in their children's lives, and by extension in their childrens' teachers' days. I hope you're able to homeschool, but if not that's understandable, and I pray that you're able to find a good, nourishing school for your little one! If able to, arrange multiple visits at varying times of day/days of the week, to whichever school(s) you're considering, so you can observe the environment during many situations. Good luck and God bless!
I am probably going to homeschool my children when I have them at this point.
A lot more parents are starting to homeschool or enroll their children in private school.
This is why as a older Gen Z I don't want kids.
@@taopanda98 I want to have kids and raise them right.
I agree as a student I can see all this happening and it is a shame.
As a gen z I think the other part that isn't the internet and social media is our disillusionment with the school. It is so outdated. It was made to make better factory workers in America (when it got required), then with the Cold War it was made to create more scientists to go against the Soviets. Then the sports being everything and if you weren't in sports, your club doesn't matter as much.
The school system needs to be updated to help Americans live on their own and find their career in my opinion. That does not mean that teachers should get the brunt of our feelings of fear, stress, entitlement and general feelings of growing up. I am sorry you have to deal with that.
I appreciate your comment. I graduated high school in 2007 and I remember watching this crap bubbling to the surface then. The standardized testing culture is soul killing. I almost didn't make it because the standardized testing processes throughout the year were so damn stressful. It was obvious that many of the teachers didn't want to force us to take those exams but their hands were tied. My mother took a tough love approach and I am glad. I often lost motivation and felt depressed most of the time in the school environment. I wish school didn't become so mechanized. I feel we miss out on the community aspect of school when its so often infiltrated by the government. Of course checks and balances are important but where is the balance?
There’s valid points, but the rest of the world uses this model. While it may not be optimal, it works. Europeans and Asians actually learn under this system and completely crush the United States in international tests like PISA. Kids in the US don’t want to learn-only a very small minority is interested in learning.
@@asimian8500 That is a good point. I hear though that European schools tend to have less school hours and more breaks. Maybe that is the reason kids are doing better.
@@Dudebrointhesky I don’t agree with standardized tests being used solely to see who “is the best student” but I think the tests are useful to see the progress in a general sense of the students, to see that everyone knows the basics. Which is important I think. Yes it is stressful, but nowadays there are so many tools to learn how to deal with stress, we cannot avoid things just because it’s stressful but learn how to deal with the stress.
@@sophiamikell7490 European nations are much smaller than America. I bet there aren't nearly as many European children raised by single mothers.
When you can get accused of almost anything as a teacher, it's time to leave or never go in it. Students can make up anything about you if they don't like you...or worst come to worst they can threaten to have you killed or get somebody to do it.
I had a student try to start a rumor that I was a pedophile. It was nixed quickly, but then the same student started a rumor that a teacher had an Only Fans account. Thankfully admin believed us, but the kid’s still there after a 10-day suspension.
I was already speaking with my attorney about recourses for the student’s actions. Kids need to realize that teachers have attorneys too, and we document the crap out of stuff. Nothing will speak volumes like receiving several letters from attorneys asking for your business when mommy and daddy gets sued.
@@Kokopilau77 yes, teachers need to fight back. Too many worry about consequences, get frustrated and then just quit. Stay and fight for what’s right.
@@Kokopilau77 that's awful SMH and to think thus generation of kids are gonna have kids themselves terrifying and bleak future ahead
@@Kokopilau77 that’s the one of the first things I learned. If a student threatens you or records you ( in my state it’s illegal ) you document it.
I couldn’t imagine having to teach todays kids. They are very entitled and have no regards for rules and are unfamiliar with consequences. They have these smart phones put in their hands before their brains are even mature enough to process the information they might see on it, and they build their faulty understanding of life based on that. The parents typically don’t monitor what they’re doing and being exposed to.
As a 14 almost 15 year old i can say that our parents want almost nothing to do with us most the time our parents want us to run the household. i think the problem my generation has with rules is that we don't know what rules really are or how they should be applied for example have unspoken random ever-changing rules at home our parents don't tell us about then having a mile long list of unfair and unevenly applied rules at school. most of my friends wish we grew up before people had colored TVs. But I must say school now a days is horrible lesson wise were learning the same thing over and over again year after year, i think our brains just got tired of repeating the same "work" again and again we just gave up on learning. and 90% the time homework is given its something completely different from what we were "learning". And one reason some kids dont do homework is because their so busy with running the household, keeping friendships, caring for younger siblings, going to after school activities, and attempting to do homework we were never taught we are left burnt out. I don't want to make excuses for us but we are just lost.
As a teacher in Spain, I have felt so relieved when I saw your video... You just cant imagine how it has helped me. I understand now it is happening all around the Western world. I've been working in a chattered Catholic school in Spain, the sort of school people greet you when you tell them you've just been hired. I also though I had been incredibly lucky. I attended that high school when I was 17-18 before starting my degree studies. Unfortunately nowadays I can't even recognise it. Students behaviour is appalling, awful, rude, and they lack of sense of respect for their teachers, their peers and the school's maintenance staff. Moreover, they don't understand what the world authority means.
I have been working here for 3 months, but I was fired last Friday. I dared to say in the Term Marking meeting (all educators of a certain year course meet to talk about the way students are performing), that our students of a certain year group (11 years) don't know what authority and respect mean. The head of Secondary started shouting at me, and the day after I was fired.
Our students beat each other, they have broken 200 toilets seats and 80 tables plus 120 chairs last year, they broke the class wall last month and made a hole bigger than I am. Last month, during a visit to a park nearby, they broke a zip-wire, a swing, a huge sledge, and they threw stones at the ducks of the lake. They killed 6 ducks, and broke the toilet glass window. They do not obey, they do not even listen in most occasions. and the most you can get out of a 50 minutes class is 15 minutes. But I should have not dared to say they don't know what respect means. Allegedly, I've been fired because 2 parents complained about me, so at the end, the boy who is challenging you, knows he actually can fire you.
Your situation sounds terrible; I'm so sorry that you had to endure that awful treatment 😢 Hopefully being released from that school will be a blessing in disguise. I had no idea that there was behavior like that in Spain. In the United States, many of us imagine other countries to be a dream, but you are right, it's definitely a western world problem because I've heard similar stories from many different countries. I hope you are able to find a wonderful job that gives you peace and longevity. ❤
I am so sorry 😞 that happened to you 😢.
asunagullo honestly it sound like it was a blessing for you to get fired and get out of that horrible situation. I didn't realize it was that bad in Spain as well. I don't have discipline problems, but some of my students are very bold. I really don't like what I do. But honestly, I don't know what else to do at this point.
Oh how awful! I always thought it was just The United States where the kids were this horrible. I pray that you find a job that is less stressful.
My God. What a horrific story! The violence and animal abuse is really scary-crazy primitive behavior.
Oh boy, how accurate you are.
I have to be an FBI info gathering agent with evidence to show parents who their kids 'really' are, but I 🤔 they already know.
I've worked in 3-FL districts since 1997. A shift is putting it lightly.
Pre covid, I had to teach my 37-students per period (6th, 7th, & 8th) in my content area classes & tk the math & 🎨 teacher's classes because both quit within the 1st 4 weeks of school. I had over 50-students in my tiny portable, regularly.
The last straw was having to take the ELA teacher's students after she quit 😭.
The 8th graders filled condoms with handsanitizer & bombed the cute petite little young sub while she wrote her name on the board.
She apparently believed the condoms were filled with bodily fluids & she fled the classroom in hysterics.
Admin stated she overreacted to being bombed with fluid filled condoms & we wont have her bk.
Teacher's were put on notice to hush it up or you'll be sorry when your iObservation comes out.
The students knew what we teachers didnt: admin & parents will err in their favor, there is power in numbers, we rule the school because we control admin thru our parents, if we act in unison they can't stop us, we have a mob mentality, they can't suspend us all because our parents won't have that & our parents don't want to miss work & they want to get away fm us.
No consequences what so ever because the admin didn't want to suspended 20+ student perpetrators.
Their parents 🏷 their behavior funny, cute, creative, hysterical, & kids being kids.
In my MS years I didn't even know what a condom was let alone were to buy one nor afford one.
When did it become ok for 6th, 7th, & 8th graders to publicly display condoms & assault teachers & other adults & more importantly get away with it.
The sub shd have photographed the incident, i.e., condoms, her clothing, & person, & sued the school board.
💰 is all the admin & board cares about & I bet next time there'd be consequences.
Teacher act & don't take violence of any kind. This was an assault & not a school issue. Call 911 & sue.
Wow, what happened to that sub is so shocking and horrible, yet after teaching middle school I definitely believe it. So sad indeed!
Horror stories abound with teachers. Sad and pathetic what they have to put up with. Watch for more teacher shortages coming to a town near you.
EVERYTHING that you have mentioned I have unfortunately experienced. I talk with my best friend about these challenges in teaching children today. The entitlement, lazy approach to school work, rudeness, the way students and parents and sometimes administrators work as a team against you...It is a sad situation.
Then students and parents complain that there is a lot of turn over with the teaching staff...when they are a BIG part of the problem.
I am 100% ready to quit. I grew up old school. The lack of respect and refusal to take responsibility for your actions or lack there of...I don't know what that mean. A retired teacher told me that he has seen the nature of students change in his 40+ years in education. He was glad that he hit retirement when he did. He was honest to goodness sad for me...I live in the Caribbean at a private school. This foolishness is a legit global crisis.
Wow! I have been in the education system now for Solid 10 years however I have been an education altogether for about 30 years coming up. It is definitely gotten worse. I substitute teach and I've been a full-time substitute teacher many a times and then I had a health issue in between and during and after this pandemic and it's hard for me to even want to go back here and there right now I'm like so over it. Then come to find out that I didn't get a raise on my pay which is not the only reason I'm doing it but it is highly important being everything's went up but everyone that just got out of high school is getting the same. After 10 years this is what I get then they write and ask where I'm at email me because people were wondering why I wasn't coming back and I explained my health situation in the pay situation and nothing was ever said about any of it
I was shocked to read that you are from the Caribbean. I thought the rude student behavior was an American problem. I taught in bottom ranked inner city schools for 4 years. Two of my former colleagues at the time who had been teaching for 10-30 years total at the time told me that "student behavior was much worse than it was before." They weren't referring exclusively to students with special needs, either.
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I can definitely relate. At my old school, I would have students & parents complain because I had high expectations. And these “high expectations” were things that used to just be standard when we were in school (following rules, coming to class on time/prepared, completing/submitting work on time, etc). Anyway, I had a parent come up to the school & demand to meet with my vice principal because her daughter got a C- on an essay. She disagreed with the grade & demanded that I change it. I refused. The vice principal entertained the meeting. When he reviewed the essay, he told the parent that I was very generous in giving her daughter a C-. The vice principal used to be an English teacher & said he would’ve scored it much lower. The mom flipped out, but he held his ground & supported me-for which I was obviously grateful & relieved.
But I was beyond annoyed with the whole situation. Go figure that, as an English teacher, I’m going to grade the essay based on the work presented, including taking off for misspellings, poor grammar, and lack of punctuation. But the concept of doing that nowadays is becoming foreign. It’s now “mean” to actually give students the grade that they’ve earned, so kids get passed through the system & they lack the necessary skills needed to succeed-both academically and in terms of life skills. It’s not all students, but enough of them are entitled & don’t know how to persevere when the going gets tough. Their parents bail them out & they don’t know how to respect authority. I’m leaving the profession for a lot of the reasons that you list in your videos. I made it as an English teacher for eight years, and I know that I am great at my job. I’ve been rated as excellent/highly proficient literally every year that I have taught. I have also formed wonderful relationships with students that I will always cherish. But the overall toll that being a teacher in 2020 is having on my life and my mental health has just become too much.
You have an awesome channel! Thank you for the videos and keep them coming. You are speaking nothing but the truth!🙌🏽
Hi Ms. L! Thanks for sharing your experiences! So many of us can 100% relate! It is sad that having high expectations for kids is viewed as adversarial instead of loving. Ultimately, I believe many students will look back on teachers that held the line with gratitude even though many kids and parents can't appreciate it now. Hang in there! You sound like a GREAT teacher! :)
Also I want to add that I totally understand your choice to leave the profession for your health and wellbeing! I am considering the same decision myself. I hope we can both find a good fit for our gifts and talents that will be healthy! :)
@@TeacherTherapy Absolutely! Some of my former students, who are now in college, have reached out to me to express their gratitude. They didn't understand it at the time, but now that they are in college, they realize that: 1) I wasn't lying to them, 2) I was one of the teachers that actually prepared them, and 3) that means that I actually cared for them and wanted them to succeed. This is the rewarding part of teaching that I will certainly miss. I, however, know that leaving the profession right now is what's best for me--physically, mentally, and spiritually. I will keep my teaching license active and in a few years, I can always go back to teaching if I really feel compelled (the teacher shortage works in our favor), but I'd be letting myself down if I didn't take steps to be happy and fulfilled. I don't want to dread Sunday nights anymore. I don't want to feel like my job consumes my entire life. So, taking a leap of faith and stepping outside of one's comfort zone is often necessary for growth. :)
You and I seem to have a lot in common--same age, same standards, both women of color doing great things in the classroom, and probably the same teaching style. We should chat sometime! I really think we'd offer a lot of insight to each other.
@@MsLEducation We do have alot in common! :) Thanks so much for letting me know I am not alone! :) I am glad to know that kids have come back and validated you, that is awesome! I think the idea of giving teaching a break is a wise one, that way the door is still open. I am looking for education related jobs too, for the same reason! Keep me posted if you find anything! :) My email is teachbloglove@gmail.com !
Teacher Therapy I emailed you.🙂
This type of behavior has now trickled down to the youngest of children in preschool. It is no longer a "kids of a certain age" type thing. I have taught students all the way up the ladder and I see, hear, and receive such treatment from students of this kin in all different grade levels. It is terrifying that a three-year-old can literally sound and behave exactly the same as a 18-year-old--meaning that the younger kid actually sounds and even looks more like the older kid with an openly authoritatively defiant aura, and not in a healthy way at all! There is no "safety zone" or category of "easy kids" anymore in teaching. Every grade level has its troublemakers, lazy folk, hard workers, intellectually curious, etc. It is just scary that there is now a very narrow gap between the ages of children in terms of the above characteristics. Because GenZ is an intensely alert, fast-paced, questioning, living-on-the-edge generation, they will try to beat their authority figures to the punch on everything without ever stopping and thinking about what they are doing or saying. If only they realized that teachers are not out to get them, and that life is all about give and take. Everybody has to do their part. You cannot expect to be treated like royalty just because you think highly of yourself.
Yes, I have heard horror stories from early elementary teachers that are so shocking I'd blush typing them! I have seen the same issues in my 4th and 5th graders too, and it is really sad especially when parents are in denial and always thinking their kid is the one being negatively influenced when their kid is the influencer! Tough times indeed!
The kids in elementary school are Gen Alpha, or some other term for that generation, born after 2010. They’ve never known a world that isn’t turbulent, only a turbulent world where everything spreads on social media like a wildfire.
@@ecoRfan I agree with you. It is very very unfortunate--for all. And I have also taught Generation Alpha. Still do.
As far as preschool kids they are getting it from listening to older kids. This is why they need to play with kids their own age. Also take the iPad away from them they definitely don’t need to be on TH-cam or ticktok their too young I don’t let my seven year old on tiktok she doesn’t even know what the videos are. They learn things from there that aren’t always good.
@@lauren6509 Strong classroom management skills are definitely key to pretty much any means of success as a teacher of any type. But when students use a disliking they have towards a teacher they don't like as an excuse for rudeness, disobedience, and laziness, then they have crossed the line and need to be disciplined pronto. Because when they are not disciplined (often due to their parents and school administrators neglecting their own obligations in that department and reprimanding teachers for exercising disciplinary punishments unto students under their own discretion), then those same students will take action towards trying to get a teacher of sorts fired by falsely accusing them of committing crimes in terms of claiming that those teachers were being physically inappropriate with students, grading "unfairly" (as in giving students any grade lower than an 'A'), or saying something "offensive" during class--all in an effort to get that teacher axed simply because the students don't want to listen or lift a finger towards putting any necessary effort in towards fulfilling their daily learning requirements. It's ridiculous, and continues to spiral out of control as long as the people at the top permit it.
I work in a college and the students just get more and more crazy every year.
I thought college and jobs would end up causing some of these kids to snap out of it.... But now the colleges and jobs just bend over backwards so a bunch of 18 year olds dont mob them on social media.
I stopped a student's test because she got her phone out and CALLED SOMEONE in the middle of the test and I was told I was wrong and need to learn to be more understanding of students. Excuse me, this student is in a nursing program. They're going to be a *nurse* and the school would rather let them phone a friend while taking an exam for their nursing course than for me to stop the test because it will upset the student and make the student feel that testing is "unfair"
As a gen z’er my school was super full of this, I didn’t really know anything else. We’ve been taken on out of state field trips and some drama must always happen. One time my class broke something in a spy museum. Albeit, it’s a big picture, a network between the parents, the school system, staff, media, consumerism, etc etc. there are so many things that need addressed. I’m sorry you guys have to face this. Teachers are so important. I also believe gen z’s idea of authority has changed,a lot of us don’t believe that one person should topple another, but teachers can’t be friends. It’s a difficult subject
As a gen z kid (independent learning) I can say for a FACT most kids just don't care. Like full stop no one gives a shit because no one has hope for the future, we are coming to terms with the fact that no matter how hard and how much we work, most of us will never be able to afford a home. School used to be a promise that you would have a better job and life, now it's just a place kids are forced to go during the day. That's how most of my generation views it anyway, allot of us are just considering doing illegal, demoralizing things just to survive.
Btw NOT excuseing disrespect or disruption, that shit gives me such bad second hand embarrassment 😫. The shit kids did in class was like some prison cafeteria behavior, fucking animals.
Us millennials had no hope as kids too after 9/11, but we still were respectful and did what was needed for existing and being in a society. I work with the public of all generations and most of it is parenting but when will people take responsibility for their actions? Sure, it may feel like there's no hope but ACTUALLY giving up and letting it crumble will cause more harm. Governments have dealt with entire economy crashes and world wars and still got the country back to functioning again and those people got to have those comfy retirements. Why can't our generations rebuild like they did and get ours?
What's hilarious is that the choices that you all make each day WILL matter. There is a saying among older folks: don't cut off your nose to spite your face. It means: don't trash something fully because it does not meet your expectations or standards.
There are and will always be levels of freedom and suffering. Beware! Set yourself up for suffering with poor choices, and that will be your lot. Plenty of people your age will start successful businesses and hire their former high school peers at minimum wage. Which camp do you want to be in? And yes, it is possible for a person from an impoverished background to obtain what is necessary to start their own business without engaging in illegal acts.
@Chris C I remember. Weird time.
Nonsense. If you want a home, and you work for it, you will have it. It is true that the economy will set the terms of your work. If a young person despairs that he sees no way to own a home while doing only work that is personally satisfying, and only as many hours as he likes, and only in the location that he chooses, then it's true that the outcome is less assured. And this has always been the case, by the way--well, in the past 60 years, at least. The necessity of conforming yourself to the present needs of the economy is not some new catastrophe uniquely descended upon your generation. PS There are vast inequalities at play, especially for the least skilled workers, and a vast proportion of basic jobs don't pay a living wage. Therefore, prepare yourself for not doing this kind of work. Agitate for, and support, the reforms we need to make a basic good life possible for every worker.
Answer to arguing student, "I will gladly have this conversation with you at lunch". 99.9% of them will not want to give up their lunch; therefore, it's really not that important, is it?
I have that point 0.01 who would love to monopolize my lunch time (bc he has no friends) so i cant even use this one
YES!!!!!!!! 😂 This is the line that I use; it works like bug repellent. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@heavenlyarianator6335 As that kid, I'm sorry, they closed the library at lunch
I came from a gifted school. This would not work, they will debate you. They will use logic and well thought out arguments. They are looking for the opportunity to flex their debate skills
@@patrickmcathey7081 wow, God forbid kids seek out an intellectual challenge?
I was kicked out of school four times in the 90s. I deserved it everytime. My mind is blown by the stories I hear from my daughter (15). It's obscene how a teacher'a hands are so tied.
Wow! I am SHOCKED that you’ve had admin get students to give you critical feedback. That is ridiculous. I know they have no respect for authority but to have that thrown in your face by admin is horrible!
Absolutely! Times have definitely changed for sure. I am glad to finally be free of teaching! lol :)
I did that once as a student. I still remember the anxiety it gave me ten years later.
I know that I have talked about it multiple times in the comments I want to give you my perspective as a student.
I was doing an experimental class was told I could switch at the end of the semester and when I asked to go through with this agreement they had one of these meanings. They told me they thought I belonged in this special ed class with people on a different level of autism than I (easiest way to explain it). It was so humiliating. The class was so ableist, the teachers were so ableist. It was offensive to be in the class in the first place. I was removed from the class and took photography instead.
OH NO KIDS TODAY DONT RESPECT AUTHORITAY.
OH NO OH GOODNESSS.
Wow, I also thought this was a brand new video in 2022! I did 30 years in public schools. It’s the most rewarding AND frustrating thing I ever did. Covid hurt, parents hurt, technology and social media hurt, and administration got scared to back up teachers. 20 years ago, we took phones from kids and charged $15 to get them back-now it’s a God-given right to have your device. For those still in the fight, stay tough-we need you!
30 years is amazing! You're a warrior! 🤗
I'm from Gen z but I was taught with respect and that there's a reason why people have those authority over you. It's because of experience, skill, and leadership. But that's because I came from a broken home where I also taught myself that you need to follow the steps to be successful or you're going to have problems in life. Things simply as doing your homework, being polite, or just following the rules are now just seen as rules that must be broken in my generation or people want to be a baddie. There's a difference between having unfair standards and rules versus set ones that are supposed to help you and the classroom to be successful.
To further confirm your observations about GenZ being incredibly opinionated I'm going to offer my anecdotal experience. As a '98 baby who graduated high school in 2017 and followed up with technical training, many of the attitudes you're frustrated with resonated with me; In particular, the lack of respect for teachers and the constant need for rationalization.
My suburban parents taught me to respect authority by giving me chores, establishing household rules, and taking the time to rationalize these things with me. Understanding the underlying reasons became intrinsically tied to my respect for anything - regardless of who the person of authority was. This worked well until middle school: i performed well, listened to my teachers (whether or not i liked them), and had a strong work ethic. However, hormones mixed with an increasingly rebellious environment, the Internet, and lax teachers weaponized my rationalized view of the world against educators.
Starting around 2013, during middle school, my academic performance dropped. Classmates didn't care, teachers were more interested in being friends with students rather than educators, and Internet politicization was on the rise. I noticed a gradual trend of teachers becoming increasingly more personal with students, sometimes wasting entire lessons with derailing anecdotes (resulting in more homework with less review, which didn't matter anyway because there weren't any consequences for underperforming). Everyone's hormones were off the wall, and because engagement is dropping in classrooms their attention turns elsewhere: relationships, video games, etc. Teachers were subconsciously relaying to students that their material doesn't matter and kids were taking that and running. The Internet and its forums were just the icing on top.
This pattern of behavior 180'd once I was studying my career, not because of some newfound respect for educators, but because i respected the material. Please do the same. I understand that administration, your coworkers, parents, students, and the Internet are sabatoging the education system; You don't have to contribute to that. Establish a strong respect for the material you're teaching and while you can be friendly to students - do not try to be their friends. Keep things professional and maintain your credibility. This doesn't mean kids will respect you, but it will greatly help those who are actually coming to learn.
Excuses.
If you were born in 1998 like me, shouldn't you have graduated from highschool in 2016?
@@youtubeshadowbannedme Yes, I should have. I started school late because of my birth month.
@@michaelbee2165 Yes they would normally be excuses. I deeply regret my lack of maturity and wisdom; I fully acknowledge that my education is ultimately my own responsibility. I am just grateful that i came to this awareness, now having the agency to make positive changes.
Have you been in today’s classroom? You can show the utmost respect for your subject area, you can explain to your students why the information matters, you can even relate it to their current stage in life or something in culture, but none of that matters if the student isn’t there to learn but to be babysat and play around for 8 hours.
I retired after teaching students with learning disabilities for 31 years. You are correct about all of the points that you discussed. Teaching is really abusive for educators these days. They are punished from students, parents, and administrators! I thank God that I survived long enough to earn a pension!
I totally agreed with you. The students I am dealing with are exactly like the ones you’re talking about. Some of the parents are telling their kids that they don’t have to listen to me. They’re are rude and disrespectful. They cussed at me when they don’t want to do their works, I send them to the office and they came right back the next day. I threatened to send a kid up for not staying in his seat and walking around bothering other students, he laughed and said, “they not going to do anything to me.” Sadly every time I see a video clip of some young adults behaving badly in public, I thought about my students because that is exactly how they behave in school. I recently quit my job because dealing with the bad behavior and having 5 preps is not enough for admin, they wanted me to participate in a focus group to train other teachers too, that is basically another prep for me. On top of that they’re asking how come I’m not coaching something or doing something extra during my evaluation. I’m already staying late to tutor, I barely have 4 hours to sleep, I’m spending money to buy school supplies for the kids, and I don’t even have time to see my own biological kids. When I submitted my resignation, they didn’t have any one to cover all the subjects that I was teaching, so the principal switched to a nicer tone and asked, “What if you only have 2 preps? Would that be better?” I said probably, but I’d made up my mind because I’d seen how she treated the other teachers who doesn’t have the option to quit. I blame the admins for the lack of structure and support in schools. They’re just trying to come up with bells and whistles to look like they’re doing something, and they shift the work on to teachers. I blame the parents for the kids behavior. Too many parents trying to be their kids’ friends rather than being parents. Kids got plenty of friends and they can make friends any time, any where. What they really need is parents, and if their parents don’t want the job, then they got nobody.
Grandparents do this to. It's not always the parents. I have a whole story on that crap
What the parents don't realize is sooner or later their kids won't listen to them either. The parents don't know that little Billy won't stay under 18 forever and as soon as that magic number is hit mommy and daddy can't save them anymore and real consequences will hit them like a brick wall.
Everything you say is true. I was a teacher for over 25 years and this is not just a problem in the US. It is a problem everywhere --be it private or public schools. I not only taught in the US, I also taught in Latin America. I taught from pre-school to college level. The most challenging were k-12 systems. The kids are just not willing to support it. We have a system that was developed for the beginnings of the industrial age, and it has not changed since I was in high school --1972! It is worst now because teachers get no support from administration nor from the parents, and so children just become difficult to manage. I was glad to leave the system and started my own private programs and it was great! I would not get caught in the traditional classroom ever again. The way I see it, let the parents deal with their children. Many parents realized the frustration of having THEIR own kids around all day long during the covid shut down and many people would say, those poor parents, but for me, I was thinking, let them get a taste of what it's like to be a teacher. Since parents "know" everything about education, pedagogy and teaching, let them deal with their kids. I had a student throw a desk at me. That is when I left the traditional teaching field for good and have never regretted it. Also, when they (administration) tell you that they are using innovative methodologies, don't believe them because if they are not spending the money to improve the system by making classroom groups smaller and paying teachers more along with taking teachers seriously and respecting the profession, it's a big lie. I honestly believe that all of this craziness in our educational system will not change. The way that kids are learning today is no match for the transitional systems of teaching, and the teaching educational programs at our universities are not dealing with the problems in the system. This is why new young teachers that enter the profession have no idea how bad it is, and the public does not want to believe how bad it is either. It's a huge problem. I don't even think that paying teachers more will fix the problem. If I had children today, I would not send them to traditional schooling systems. Not at all!
Well said and well done. I had at least one field placement in a local school during my University years as a Special Education major, so I had different experiences with different students with different capabilities and different behaviors. It boggles my mind that other college/university programs for teachers just have one filed placement (senior year) if any at all, because while there is a massive amount of material that college students must learn in their college classrooms, going out and teaching students as real life experience is where many people learn the most.
Your comments remind me of a slogan that I heard years ago used by the local schools: "Parents are teachers, too!" What do you think of that?
As a person toward the older-half of Gen Z, I really truly think this is all true, and that it comes from a mass lack of motivation as a whole. Us Gen Z have grown up to messages of global warming, declining economy, watering-down of the value of degrees, increased debt, a horrible medical system, a completely misrepresentative government, etc.
An *extremely* common (and shared!) sentiment between gen Z is a complete lack of faith in a future. Our memes literally have to do with existentialism and depression, our music is depressing, etc.
In the US, this is our future: global warming will introduce anthrax outbreaks, worse crop yield, mass immigration, more wild weather, and sinkholes. The economy will continue to be moved toward large monopolies such as Disney, Comcast, General Mills, and companies who bribe our openly-corrupt government senators and house in order to avoid laws being corrected to account for the exploitation of loopholes and lack of foresight. Money continues to be distributed disproportionately to the wealthy few, our government representatives continue to be replaced with older and/or more out-of-touch people. Our justice system and police seem to only get more racist and militaristic/violent with time.
Most importantly, we grew up with internet, so unlike every previous generation, we've been exposed to all of this and more every day since childhood.
It's literally like: the punk and antiwar movements of the late 90's lost their battles, and now in the 2020s we've all collectively given up on the world. It's not going to get better, it's only going to get worse.
So I really think, at least with the older students in gen Z who have phones or tablets, this is the root cause and it'll likely only get worse. As far as the really young ones, a big part of that might just be bad parenting. But keep in mind, that since those students' parents are late Gen x and early millenials, those students as a whole definitely grew up in more divided and worse-off households. It used to be that a single job can support a family with kids and a house and a car. And the kids of the 60s, 70s, 80s grew up in those households.
Now, the kids grow up in households with parents absent and tired from working multiple jobs, or only one parent-because their mom and dad have already divorced.
Basically what I'm saying is, to some extent, you can't blame the students for a systemic issue. But for individual students making nasty comments, you definitely can blame them.
Thanks for the essay on why Gen Z is in such turmoil. Now, what are you going to do about it, at least for yourself? We’ve all grown up with bullshit going on in our lives. Get the fuk over it, stop making excuses. Get out there and create your future. Or keep regurgitating excuses and do nothing, try to survive off a corrupt system, and be depressed. I call bullshit. Find GOD. That is the problem with this time, too many people walked away from God and the belief in our after-life and a higher power than them. No God. No Peace… KNOW GOD, KNOW PEACE.
@@OldJoeBlows ah yes. The invisible man in the sky who loves me but will send me to hell to suffer for eternity if I do something wrong will make the world better if I just beg
@@glowerworm exactly my point. Good luck in life, you’ll need it.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
So...if these behaviors don't resemble YOUR kid...keep it moving. For the MAJORITY, this is so true.
I would love to teach with you...so much alike.
Yep, my sister let my nephew do whatever he wanted at a very young age. She didn’t care he had no respect for anyone. Suspended? No problem. At 21 he did a full year in the county jail. 2 years later he did over a year in prison. Has his attitude changed? Nope.
I'm coming into this as a student, not a teacher, so please keep this in mind. I am graduating from highschool this year, so I'm not sure HOW much of this would apply to my grade, though I'm sure much of it can and did/does apply (I have been quite sheltered in my friend groups and classes, and have comparatively few classes and teachers compared to my peers as I tend to try and stick to the same classes and teachers for comfort.)
I grew up as one of those types of, ah.. unideal gifted student? I have parents who were born in the 50s, so they drilled respect into me (even when it is unnecessary or doesn't make logical sense, JUST for the sake of politeness), and I was a naturally very good reader. I am from Canada, but I would switch schools through the IB program to go to california in the winter, as we had a home down there. I had exceptionally good marks and going down south meant that I got to learn different sides of history and currency and measurements and such back and forth.
But, despite me being a teacher's pet, and getting exceptional grades, I very likely have undiagnosed mixed presentation ADHD (to the point where it's kind of alarming no teacher ever talked to my parents about it, since most of my friends, when they met me, thought I was diagnosed. Once I am 18 I am going to work towards getting a diagnosis.) and would talk excessively when I didn't find the classwork stimulating enough. Most of my teachers were extremely accommodating towards this, and I found I was punished much less than kids (especially boys) who didn't have marks as good as mine. HOWEVER, this is all build up to Jr. High and highschool (I stopped going to cali after grade 4, so that no longer applies) wherein all hell has broken loose.
I have, for the most part, had teachers I enjoyed, even if the class was difficult or rowdy. One teacher brought me to tears after it took me ages to make up the courage to ask for a hesitant extension on a project because I had been working on an essay for her and had two concerts that week, and then yelled at the class the day later. (She ended up taking a mental health break at the end of the semester. It was supposed to end last-ish week. it was extended, there were .. issues with her, idk if she's coming back.) Lately, I have found it hard to write critical pieces of texts even if they are easy. I could talk about it for hours, but writing it down is an issue. Formatting even moreso. I had to talk with my english teacher about a project that was late (She knew the reasons. There was in-class time to work, but without fail the classroom was too loud to even think, let alone write a fairly large paragraph analyzing a youtube video.) and she was exceptionally accommodating. But without fail, every single class has a group of students who basically refuse to hand in assignments, and luckily, the classes either have angels for teachers or are module based, so it doesn't matter, as long as it eventually gets handed in. (A lot of the times, people fail the easiest of classes. It's a convservative area, and so many of the students are just forced to attend class so they don't have a spare, or because they have to fill their schedule up with so many classes, and certain classes are just 'drop' classes they won't need. I do think this is a mixture of a problem between parents and the system in place at my school.)
But oh my god, the student drama and horror stories I have heard. CW for some heavy stuff from this point on.
Bro, you don't just get physical assaults that leads to kids getting suspended or expelled and that's that. You get people who lie about having brain cancer, who lie about being in a s*x trafficking ring, who lie about having epilepsy because they have a MOUTH FETISH? I could go on. this was ONE person They lost all their friends, but the teachers couldn't do much about it. One of the teachers who started the situation by looking at the cameras and trying to help them ended up quitting partway through the next year. I'm sad I never got a class with him, as he was one of my favorites from having him as a TA, but I fully understand why he left. (He also has a wife who's immunocompromised, and COVID just kinda made it so he had a reasonable out)
I've seen students who were receiving consistent homophobic death threats, physical assaults, etc, and having SO few repercussions that it's genuinely insane. Especially so when you consider that most of the altercations happen between a male student and an already harassed queer student that the school doesn't seem to care about. I've had teachers complain about how articles that state facts are 'too controversial' for the school newspaper, and since I've been in grade 8, every year, someone I know and am friends with has either planned or attempted s*icide, which is heartbreaking, especially when you have to coach your friends as they too have parents who don't believe them.
at this point i'm just praying that I can make it to university so I can just play band forever and leave the catholic(public) school system behind. god, it's been hell. I've met some amazing teachers who I plan on staying in touch with, but just going through highschool and seeing and hearing all this stuff is really deterring me from going into it as a profession, at least at the K-12 level.
Do not teach. You will make more money in many areas installing HVAC.
as a gen z college student studying to be a teacher, i have a LOT of thoughts. for context, i graduated high school in 2018. idk what it's like to teach full time, but ive spent time in a 2nd grade class, a high school sped class, tutored 3rd and 4th graders, and teach part time at a preschool.
in defense of gen z: my mental health was horrible from 7th to 12th grade. when i was 12, the sandy hook shooting happened 10 minutes away from my middle school. i think it affected me more than i realized bc this was the year i started to have panic attacks and indulge in self harm. adults didnt take it seriously bc they just saw me as a dramatic hormonal teen girl. my mental health continued to suffer in high school. my typical day consisted of waking up at 6, going to 8 straight classes, and spending 2-5 hours at sports or marching band. the first time i'd sit down at home was usually around 9 or 10 pm. i'd be exhausted but still have 3 hours of homework to do. i'd get 4 hours of sleep and then repeat. if i wasnt engaged in class, it was because i was exhausted and ready to kill myself. not because i didnt respect my teacher.
also in terms of cellphones, it's a genuine addiction. i got my first one at 12. high schoolers today have been on ipads since preschool. we dont go on it to be disrespectful, we go on it bc we feel uneasy not checking it. doesnt make the behavior acceptable, but just giving perspective.
overall, it's just not a good time to be coming of age. school shootings and a pandemic are already hard enough, but we also know that we can do everything right and get straight A's in college yet still end up with an underpaying job, not be able to afford housing or healthcare or families, and also may not live to see grandchildren because of climate change. there's a heavy sense of dread and hopelessness for my generation to deal with.
BUT in defense of teachers: despite all of that, i never talked back to a teacher or didnt listen the first time they asked me to do something. my parents were highly respectful to all our teachers and always trusted they were doing what they thought was best. this is how it should be.
also in my edu classes, they teach us so much about preventing negative behavior and focusing on positive behavior which is great. but they dont tell us what to do when these bad behaviors inevitably do happen. it seems like there's no consequence we're allowed to give anymore.
i can also tell that teachers are micromanaged and have a million responsibilities beside just teaching. teachers deserve so much more support, respect, and pay. i think every classroom, no matter what grade, should have assistants and paras around to help with behavior so the teacher can just focus on teaching.
Your defense of teachers is admirable, but there are some issues defending generational behavior in the content of your post that are, to use a popular phrase found more and more in modern parlance: "Problematic." In recent years Americans have come to believe that they are all victims of one kind or another, and if they are not actual victims of something, will find some way to make themselves appear so in order to be a part of the group that gets all the attention and sympathy. This behavior is classified as Vulnerable Narcissism, and it's society wide. I've struggled with devastating bipolar my whole life, plus an autoimmune condition that has hospitalized me about once every 2 years. I am also NOT a victim, I just have challenges that life has dealt me, same as lots of other folks. My best friend was paralyzed in a random violent stranger attack at age 34, but he refuses to see himself as a victim for the same reason. Horrible things happen to people, and historically have happened to people, all through time. You and the current generation coming of age are not special.
Regardless of the world seemingly spinning out of control, by many metrics you are living in one of the best times in history to be alive in the world, no matter it's problems. Especially if you live in modern affluent democracies like the US. For instance, plagues have happened before, if anyone was paying attention, and were usually much worse than Covid, and there was no or poor medicine. Wars have swept over and destroyed huge amounts of human life. If you lived your whole life in America, you have never experienced a war on your own landmass, a war that directly affected you. You might want to take a look at the history of what the Earth's Homo Sapiens went through before the modern age. The creator of the video talked about entitlement, and it is on display everywhere, especially among my young relatives. I could use my mental and physical illnesses as an excuse to not take responsibility for myself, but I became successful in spite of challenges. I refused to be a victim. The US has entered into a period of Cultural Decadence (in the Classical sense of the term), and it will only get worse unless Americans, no matter what the generation, get over themselves. My sister is one of the finest human beings to walk the planet, a kind, caring, compassionate, brilliant, empathetic, dedicated teacher, and after 30 years of teaching is leaving for the exact reasons the video author left her job. And my sister is unbelievably patient. But even she had a limit. I wish you the best of luck, and I'm sure you'll be a fine teacher, but please don't impart a victim mentality to your future students. It won't serve them well in life.
@@Zenbuck2 God, I'm so over the older generations and their "pull yourselves up by the bootstraps" mentality. You want to suffer in silence because you're not a victim? Great. Don't dismiss the struggles of an entire generation that while living in an era of "cultural decadence" as you call it is also the generation projected to have the worst purchasing power in history, deal with environmental issues at an unprecedented rate and will likely never be able to successfully achieve any of the ridiculous American Dream benchmarks people like you pretend exist. We don't have bootstraps you pull ourselves up by. We don't need physical war when we're are suffering from a political war ripping the country apart (or did you forget that people are ACTIVELY trying to topple democracy in this country as we know it). Every day, theres some random environmental catastophe to worry about or a school shooting or record inflation rates. And you all act like we should go on with our days as if it isn't anxiety-inducing. Rather than being upset with the children, be upset with the government and schoolboards that cut your funding, stretching you thin with shitty pay and badly micromanaging what you can and can't teach. Gen Z has a nihilist attitude because the future is bleak and instead of your generation helping us fix it, you're raging on TH-cam about bad parenting, but WE'RE the victims 😂. Disrespectfully, please quit. We're as tired of you as you are of us.
@@Zenbuck2 I agree that learned helplessness is rampant, and something we as a society have to figure out. It'd do well to remember that being right is not the goal (it never is), creating the solutions the work is the goal. That said, everyone alive right now is experiencing the very real, looming threat of climate change is an Armageddon level threat that has, for millions, made everything seem actually, truly hopeless. Think of what that does to the psyche.
@@AvgJane19 we are also, possibly, seeing family and friends die because of a virus discovered 3 years ago that has killed a million people worldwide. It definitely feels like the end of days because of that sometimes.
@@Zenbuck2 thank you for this thoughtful comment. i deal with mental illness and chronic illness as well, im sorry you deal with that too. it's inspiring to know you're able to succeed in spite of that. i hope i'll be able to do that too.
however i wasnt trying to be a victim (although i can see how it looked that way). i was just trying to give perspective of what students are currently feeling. as im getting older, ive been learning to manage all these scary things better. but as a teen, things really felt hopeless and out of control. there's currently a mental health crisis among kids and teens, and there's many studies to prove it. i really think there's a link between my anxiety, stress, and sleep deprivation in high school with the chronic illnesses i developed in college. it's a serious issue.
but that doesnt mean im planning on "imparting a victim mentality on my students." im planning on prioritizing their social emotional health, looking for the root cause of negative behaviors, and having empathy for them rather than just labeling them as "bad" lazy kids.
"let the child lead" When I taught this was a sentiment or ideology that a lot of parents and even my school system shared. Sure enough, those kids ran their household. When confronted about behavior, the parents reaction was the "not my child." Accountability is lacking among many kids. When the real world hits they easily see their circumstances as victimhood rather than consequences of their own choices.
If a parent said to me "not my child" my response would be "your child won't be under 18 forever" These parents and kids don't seem to understand that once that magical age hits the world takes off the gloves. It's going to be real punishments they can't walk away from and mommy and daddy can't save them anymore.
We are seeing it now with "Trans Kids." Jazz Jennings is one example. From what I have seen and what others have said, Jazz's mom persuaded and rewarded him for going along with "being trans." However, Jazz's mom has said "we were just following Jazz's lead."
Let the children lead...ha,ha,ha,hoo,hooo,hho...you're killing me here smalls....lmao
While teaching art, I would spend about 45 minutes each day e-mailing various parents about behavior. More time was spent following up with behavior than planning. The school had this "three-strikes" system, which meant a kid could do whatever he wanted, as long has he did it only twice. On the third time, a process would start with parent teacher conferences, meetings, curriculum adjustments, behavior plans, follow-up ideas, and all this would come out of the teacher's time. The teacher would then have to keep track of who had one warning, who had two warnings, and who had a behavior plan with additional warnings, then spend more time scheduling detention time around parent work schedules, getting parent permission for detention, and ensuring the student has transportation home afterward.
So when Little Billy destroys his third webcam, the teacher has to spend hours and hours going through this process before any serious consequences happen to Billy.
I ended up spending an average of 65 hours a week physically in my classroom, and most of that time was spend dealing with student behavior
That sounds like a nightmare 😳 I'm so sorry that your time was wasted that much 💔
You are spot-on. I spent so much time - for nothing - doing all the things you listed when I should have been working on my art curriculum. Just madness. I regret all but my first year of teaching and that was 31 years ago. Retired recently and can't believe the difference in my sleep patterns, stress levels, and general well-being - this after teaching with chronic illnesses from the start. Every day I would park my car in front of the school(s) and wonder if this is the day the "gotcha!" would occur - as I had seen happen to so many other teachers before. That or some sort of violence on campus again (elementary level at that). When students who severely misbehave are "disciplined" with playing basketball with the principal or breakfast with the principal, etc. no wonder they feel invincible. Send them to the office for disrupting class and then they were sent back within 15 minutes as it is now law that they can not be excluded from class and disrupt/impact their learning. !! What about the other kids who do want to learn? So glad I am done with all this but feel badly for those remaining or who are just getting into education as a career. It nearly broke me.
As a retiring art teacher I feel your pain. I can't get to loading and unloading kiln because of prep time being used for paperwork and parent calling over bad behavior. Or I get home after a day of no prep from covering other classes or other crisis and realize I forgot to follow up. It was so much easier in the 80s when I could take the problem kid to the office and he or she would get a paddling.
One has to fill so much paperwork that it feels like we are being punished for being a teacher 😮💨
It's not just students and kids that are exhibiting this bad behavior....
Sooo true 🥺 I think we're having issues with human behavior across the board 😭
@@TeacherTherapy True. My brother does hiring and he's told me how frustrating it is whenever he hires anybody under 30. It's the same thing; arguing with management, ignoring tasks that they don't feel like doing, thinking deadlines are optional; all the bad behavior mentioned in this video. It's gone on long enough that these students are graduating and are bringing these attitudes into the workforce.
Principles are useless these days. Completely useless. These administrators in some cases are toxic. Time for the great teacher resignation to gain steam. Then when you quit they send you nasty emails even after you resigned. Pathetic.
Such a culture of abuse...
I just had the worse day. Disruptive behaviors in two classes gave me a splitting headache today before a faculty meeting at the end of the day followed by a sit down with the Principal because some of the kids in one of my disruptive classes decided to complain about me. They complained about all sorts of things, but the real complaint is that they don’t want a test this week or when we get back after break because they’re not ready. They don’t read are lazy as all hell but I’m the problem. I can relate to you so much. Please pray for me.
Future "can I speak to the manager"s of America. I seriously feel for y'all
Maybe don't have tests planned after a vacation so the kids don't have to study ? Theyre right you suck
the only reason why i was lazy at school was because i was depressed and getting bullied and i didn't know i had autism until literally yesterday but luckily i am homeschooled
having people tell you to kill yourself everyday really makes you "lazy" maybe you should look into their mental health
teachers should've jumped in before i attempted i told them multiple times how i felt and nothing i was treated like a school shooter
I'm not a teacher, however I understand the struggles teachers go through. As a gen Xer I have seen a massive shift in attitudes. I have two kids and I want to instill in them respect and appreciation. I just want to see school administrators having a backbone and not pandering to lazy parents and bad kids.
Oh my the defiance is just unbelievable! I spend ages planning lessons and kids just refuse to do anything! Also the lack of understanding between bad choice/ behaviour and consequence. They don’t get why they’re in trouble. Then the outbursts happen. It’s not worth giving a consequence because of their reaction and it doesn’t sink in anyway.
@Julie Lourdes I know! It’s so frustrating!
Oh, they know that they're in trouble and they know why. They just feign ignorance to avoid the consequences*. So annoying. 🙄
why not call the cops when kids start getting aggressive. Then have them sent to the behaviorial schools if necessary. If parents get mad have cameras set up in the classroom to show the bad behavior.
Parents are enablers these days.
I think the American culture needs to start valuing hard work, respect and discipline again. I am lucky I attended an elementary and high school that had very high pressure for academic success. Now I'm in Uni to become a high school teacher. I enjoy listening to different teacher stories to help prepare myself, this was a great video.
As someone who is a part of Gen Z, I have never agreed more with a video than this, I notice all the things you've brought up with kids in my class, and I'm glad you brought those things to light. While there are still good kids in my class, half the classroom isn't the same. Teachers are human beings too, so treat them like they are
To school boards and administrators, teachers are nothing but gun fodder.
I’m in no way defending entitlement nor am I the “air
freshener police”, but there are legit people who can get sick, nauseated, or even puke when it comes to air fresheners. It’s an allergy or some manifestation of asthma or something but it’s *very* real. I have spray air freshener at home and the only ones I can stand that don’t make me sick are Febreze. Not just any Febreze either. The scent must be lavender or some kind of food scent like vanilla, apple
cinnamon, or just apple or just cinnamon, or pumpkin spice. No floral scents, no ocean breeze scents. And no Glade
or any other brand even if it’s a food scent. I’m not trying to
cause trouble, tell you what to do, or add anything else to your already overloaded teacher plate. I just want you to know that this one may not be one of those that someone is throwing out there for no good reason.
Thank you! A friend of mine has really severe asthma and air freshener could literally kill or severely injure him because of how hard is his asthma attacks are to control.
Not to mention how for people with sensory issues something like air freshener could make it nearly impossible for them to learn in the classroom.
@Julie Lourdes I am happy for you if you have found something that works for you and your asthma but please be aware that essential oils are full of very powerful chemicals and are known to trigger asthma attacks. Something being natural doesn't make it safe unfortunately. That said I'm not saying you shouldn't use them at all just be cautious (especially if you have pets as many common essential oils are extremely deadly to them) and PLEASE be careful not to diffuse them around others who might have asthma or young children as a safe level of essential oil for an adult can make them sick.
@Julie Lourdes The essential oils themselves are made of chemicals. The chemicals that are naturally in essential oils are very powerful and often dangerous.
@Julie Lourdes I understand your confusion. The word chemical is often used to mean a chemical that is synthetic, hence why you see things labeled “chemical free”. However, in truth literally everything is made out of chemicals. For example, humans are mainly composed of oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus. These chemicals combine into many different molecules that make our bodies and allow it to function. That said some of the molecules our body produces can be harmful. For example, our stomachs produce hydrochloric acid or HCl (we also have chlorine in our bodies as well!), it helps us digest food and kills some pathogens keeping us from getting sick. However, the acid from our stomach, which our stomach can handle just fine thanks to specialized cells, will give us chemical burns if we got it on our skin.
Plants exist in much the same way. They are made of chemicals and anything derived from plants, including essential oils, is made out of those chemicals. Plants are actually really fascinating in that they have evolved ways to create some really interesting molecules over the years, after all they can’t run or fight back against a predator so their main defense is chemical. When essential oils are created many of these chemicals that the plants naturally have are concentrated (that’s why you need a lot of plants to make a small about of essential oil).
Essential oils are chemicals, quite concentrated ones in fact, which responsible for both their helpful and harmful properties. Any company or person that tells you they are chemical free is not a reliable source of information about essential oils and you should be cautious about buying from them.
All that said I am happy that essential oils work for you, but you HAVE to remember that different people with asthma have different triggers, and essential oils are known to be a trigger for some people. No matter how severe your asthma is other people can be triggered by things that don’t trigger you and vice versa.
Teaching will only get harder in the coming years. I would never again choose this profession if I had to do it again. I lost 12 years of my life to this so called profession. I could write for hours on all the nonsense.
I've been doing it well I first started at a preschool teacher in the 90s. I thought I didn't like that because they were too little and I didn't have my kids at the time. So I went back to school and got my degree in other things but then when I had kids I got an education degree and was glad that I was able to be able to teach in their school and I substitute. I had long-term jobs and tutored for the past almost twelve years as well. I've even been an Adjunct professor and that's another story. even though I didn't even do it very long because it was so weird. I just can't believe how it all is it seems like it got worse before covid and now it's even far beyond worse and I bet you anything next year it's going to be real bad and only get worse like you said.
Yes I think it's going to get worse too. I think there's also a political party that wants to destroy public education. They want it privatized. .Look at now there states that were you can sue teachers for the information they provide in school. They don't even have to have students in the classroom, anybody can sue them because they don't agree with curriculum. Places where you have to teach creationism nit just evolution. This is crazy This is ridiculous. I think there's too much outside control
@@merricat3025 yes like that's really going to make everybody wanting to get into the class even faster
Everything in this video is 100% true. I'm currently in my first/last year teaching and already have my next career set up. I'm scratching and clawing to finish my contract and simply maintain my professional record. My administration has threatened me with a "poor reference" the same week I requested my termination for the end of my contract (keep in mind I could quit at any moment and not even finish my contract). The lack of discipline in schools, as well as our grading system is an abomination. Practices and student behavior expectations teachers take years to give up on took me weeks.
i have been teaching 27 years and would never advise any one to teach nowadays these kids have no home training or the home training they have is really bad
As a student in high school with two teachers as parents all I hear about at home is all these horror stories about this generation of kids. I admire anyone who teaches because I hear about this all the time. My parents have actively told me not to go and pursue teaching. I agree with them on that front. I feel for you guys keep fighting and keep up the good work! Likes and subscribed❤
Thank you!!! :)
Entitlement!!!! Oh, so MUCH entitlement!!! I had a young man this year who came to me at the end of the day and asked me for 2 pieces of candy: one for today and one for tomorrow since he was going to miss the next day!!! 😳😳😳
When I've given candy kids have asked for extra for their siblings too! 😄 Sometimes I just had to chuckle!
All of this is more the reason why we should look to celebrate positive student behaviors as much as possible. Can’t take a kid walking in your class calmly and just sitting down for granted.
Yes, good behavior should be rewarded. But that is very difficult to do when dealing with all the disruptions and threats from other students.
@@itsjustme4848 that's why I put "as much as possible."
And then they'll get bullied by their peers for being a teacher's pet even if it's just their nature.
@@tiredbunbun9009 my post is less about projecting where students will end up but it’s more so about helping teachers gain a perspective on how much kids are actually doing the right thing and trying. We lose sight of that when we focus on the negative behaviors.
Hit the nail right in the head, biggest reason I quit teaching after 2 years.
For sure! Hopefully you have found something that is a healthier fit :)
AMEN!! OMG, you are our voice! YES TO EVERYTHING in your video. And you are so right, about administration giving students more power than their teachers! I fear for our future because of the issues you stated in your video. Again, it's not ALL students but those students who we are not talking about, come in fewer numbers each year. Very sad! Thank you again. **My head just kept nodding and nodding! 🙂
I'm raising six children and thank you for all of this, I homeschool but I am definitely seeing some things I do and how I can be molding my kids.in this same fashion. Thanks for sharing, I know you weren't intending what I took but really, thank you.
I know you do this but I have to say it to every parent, limit screen time and if they have phones or tablets put them in a lock box at night and do not trust youtube to monitor what your kid watches, the kid youtube still shows them innappropriate videos that haven't been flagged
I switched into teaching from another profession two years ago. I teach an older age group (grades 9-12), but I see a lot of the same stuff. The comments you made about the student being encouraged to give you recommendations on how to teach class hit home for me - while what you experienced there was more egregious than what I have seen personally, I have been shocked at how some students presume to tell me what tests should look like, how to make presentations more entertaining, etc. Thanks for the video!
You are 100% correct in your analysis. I say this as a parent. I believe it started close to twenty years ago with No Student Left Behind and Common Core. Teachers and administrators we're terrified, parents were confused and the students were lost as a result.
I had such trouble getting my children to understand consequences for academic performance that I eventually pulled them out and homeschooled them. There was no accountability for the students, only the teachers and the parents. However, administrators kept changing the curriculum, or at least how things were expected to be done, and the parents would get the kids homework and just scratch their heads because it wasn't how they learned it so they did know how to help.
Urban Schools became the testing grounds for every ridiculous policy change while suburban and private schools continued mostly unmolested with their tried and true teaching methods. Smh.
This is why I homeschooled my kids. I dont want them anywhere near the kids your talking about.
I've been a substitute teacher in the Central Valley of CA for the past 4 years. After what I've seen and experienced, I would tell any parent: if you love your children, homeschool them.
Same. I homeschool and love it!
You are destroying your kids social life at this early stage, no matter how bad their classmades are, its a part of their growth as a person. Missing out on that most important stage in life will make them suffer later, even come to hate you with the deficit of life experience, which you‘ve caused them.
Homeschooling comes with its own set of issues. I had multiple classes in college with kids that were homeschooled, smart but really socially stunted (which was odd because they all knew each other from home school programs where they socialized). Not every parent is cut out to homeschool, and some straight up have no business doing so. There need to be A LOT of self awareness on the part of the parent in terms of where their flaws lie so they know when they might need outside help.
It's "you're" and "don't." I hope your children learned basic grammar from your instruction.
Older generation complaining about children they raised themselves.
You are the first teacher to NOT mince words! Everything you've said is what I've been dealing with right now. This is my 14th year.
I am currently a gen-z student in school in the UK. I am generally pretty well-behaved, I've never got a detention. Having a 'healthy climate' isn't telling someone what to do and expecting them to not have any autonomy or ask why they have to do something because that's honestly unhelpful as it leaves you with unanswered questions. If a teacher told me to do something, and I didn't understand why, so I asked and I got called entitled, I would be personally offended. Imagine if the headteacher just told you what to do without any given explanation or reason over and over again, you would probably find them to be the entitled one. I understand your situation and what you're describing could be different to what I know, but from what I understand about my generation, we simply are trying to break away from the narrative we're just to be told what to do, and we are less important than those who have power over us. When you talk about certain situations like the wall plug scent, that is very specific and shouldn't be viewed on the same level as asking why they have to do something. To say gen-z are entitled is offensive and quite rude, to be honest I find people who speak down to me for the reason we defy unsubstantiated and unexplained rules to be far more entitled than we could ever be as students! I think the real systemic issue is the school system seen in the UK, seen in the US and many many other places where the curriculum and methods of teaching are made to produce a factory worker who doesn't think outside the box. Also following the kids you teach to elicit a reaction which gives you happiness is wildly inappropriate! It's not your students responsibility to make you feel good about yourself, this is so unethical due to the power dynamic between students and teachers and when you literally follow your students so they make you feel the way you want to feel, yet calling us entitled is honestly disrespectful towards us. We exist and deserve to be treated as those who can understand something's reasoning to the same level as you and trust me I can.
"To say gen-z are entitled is offensive and quite rude..."
So, you feel entitled to be only described in ways you find pleasing, otherwise the person who has a different opinion of you is, by definition, rude. I think too many people these days, including yourself, are quite easily offended and have the belief that it is the fault of the person who offended you (how dare they), and their moral duty to avoid a repeat, instead of seeing it as your own weakness.
@@dubiouslycrisp no I think to define a whole generation as 'rude' is pretty entitled. I have done nothing to this person, never even met them, yet they call me and 2.47 billion other people entitled?
@@thomashorton8302 Gen-z being labeled "entitled" is a generalization, meaning most of them, not meaning every single person. Come on, that's obvious. You are welcome to think of yourself as an exception.
@@dubiouslycrisp and I bet if you met every single one of them, you would find very little to actually be entitled, and I can say that knowing quite a lot of gen z ers
@@minoozolala no I'm saying if you're a teacher and your senior (in this case the headteacher) tells you to do something which you don't understand so you ask why and you get called rude and entitled for asking you might be a little offended
This is EVERYTHING!! Thank you for these videos, I just subscribed to your channel. I am a teacher and I have definitely questioned my career choice, unfortunately I went to school for this and am still in debt from student loans over my degrees for teaching. There are times I want to leave but the guilt of getting so far into debt for a career I wanted and then choosing to leave really messes with me.
Keep posting these vids❤️ you are seriously an inspiration to me and I’m sure many other educators on here!
Hi Mrs. S! Thanks for your encouragement 🙏! I am in the same position you are in right now! I am interviewing for another job, but if it doesn't work I will have to stick with teaching indefinitely due to student loans and bills. But I have seriously thought about just working at Whole Foods or somewhere but the salary & holidays are hard to give up! Best wishes for you! We're all in this together ❤!
I'm 27. One thing I wish that was explained in school more was "if you work hard here, you will most likely make more money in the long term". I feel like if I had that ideal hammered in my brain in highschool I would've performed more optimally. My opinion of course
I disagree... way to instill a toxic money chasing mentality or huge financial anxiety. People perform best when they have *intrinsic* motivation and genuine interest for what they are doing. Time and time again we find that our dependence on external reward has limited success.
Not necessarily true. I excelled in high school, did well in college but spent a few years after that being unemployed, struggling to find decent work, or working the worst retail jobs because that's all that was hiring at the time. I'm doing better now but am nowhere near making 6 figures.
Whoever is seriously equating high school work & high GPA to high salaries may be selling a false promise. No one cares about grades after u leave school. Maybe the only exception is if you're trying to be a doctor or lawyer.
@@ninachthonic2535 I chose the words most likely very carefully
okay but the thing is, that is completely wrong. hard work does NOT equal success. the world is a train wreck that values old money to make the world go round. and to give an example, because of the inflation of the bachelors degree, you have collage educated people who work measly, hard labor jobs who trained for artisan skill because employers view anyone old enough that DIDNT go to collage as "lazy and stupid," that don't pay well, aren't what they trained for, and cause them to waste there life away on a mega-cooperation monopoly who just gets richer and richer off inhumane treatment.
I switched to a Catholic school in the same neighborhood as the public one I was teaching in recently and find your comments spot on. There is a weird sense of entitlement in students considered “ underserved” who are actually given a lot they don’t appreciate and a lack of curiosity beyond social media and entertainment. The kids in the public school were actually much nicer-to me, anyway. I have been astonished at what 5 th through 8 th graders say to my face and their ability to always have the principal’s ear and inappropriate support from many teaching aides as well.
As an adult in my 40's, I've noticed the same with recent new grad hires - THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY SOCIAL SKILLS! They can barely carry on a conversation, or even say good morning.
Based upon the comments I'm going to say something that may he unpopular but here goes.
Give the state of the world we live in I think we need to instill in kids a certain amount of questioning of authority figures. I can see how that is frustrating however for teachers. The question I would have then is...how do we instill a certain amount of the questioning authority without overload of it?
As for the rest, I agree parents aren't parenting. Many want to be thier friend and not the parent, which I think stems from wanting thier child to tell them everything and they believe being a friend will achieve that better. I also believe to many kids are being raised by screens, whether it's Ipads, phones, video games, or TVs.
The question is, how do you fix parents?
There can be no argument about following instructions in the classroom. There is no room for flexible authority when it comes to creating classroom activities and lesson plans. Teenagers have learned for millennia to question authority simply by virtue of the maturation process. These little morons, the ones being discussed in these comments, are painfully stupid creatures who will make excellent customers in the future.
I feel like this is what they say about every new generation. As a teacher, I think it's up to us to build the culture. It's always going to be challenging, but writing off gen z as disrespectful, entitled, lacking work ethic, etc is exactly how you end up burned out.
I’m a young adult and even my younger siblings agree that kids are very entitled nowadays. We will see the consequences of technology and the coddling of teenage minors in the upcoming years.
Agree! Tale as old as time. I’m Gen X and my boomer parents said the same negatives about my generation. My grandparents said the same about my parents. They’ve been saying the same about Millennials until recently I’ve noticed Millennials are now dumping on my kids’ generation. I think we all have selective memory and only remember the highlights. I teach my kids to respect their teachers and work hard at school. They are good kids and their teachers this year said they wished they’d loosen up a little and raise a little hell now and then! If they feel they are being mistreated by a teacher (which has happened twice for my 11 year old son during all his years in school) I believe them. I try to give the teacher the benefit of the doubt and talk it out first but I know my kids are great students and I will take action if it is hurting them emotionally and/or academically.
You must be a member of admin….also, it is inconceivable to be able to compare older generations ridicule of their younger counterparts when this generation never existed in a world without instant gratification technology. There is 1000% a difference in their behavior and 1000% influenced by the environment they’ve grown up in.
@@v.l.7656 Inconceivable because the technology has changed compared to last generation? Also, I'm not an admin. I enjoy teaching in the classroom and get sick of the people who whine about kids these days. We're the adults. We have to guide them
@@NKim-gj9vk so are we generalizing and putting words in others' mouths? It sounds like your issue is with social media, not kids themselves. Again, I believe it is up to us as adults to guide them.
I had an 8th grade student tell me this year (after 40 minutes of non-stop talking), “You can’t tell me to stop talking.. only my momma can tell me to stop talking!” I told her that her momma doesn’t work here.
I am leaving education. They wanted to see what it's like to have the older, more capable, stronger, cleverer, more educated, and more experienced people as their adversaries instead of allies? SIGN ME UP. I will be taking advantage of this generation as much as possible with a large, resplendent smile on my face.
7:35 YESSS, exactly!! I literally had to teach my 16-year-old students that it is rude to not respond to a greeting. They greeted me back for about two days after that and then went back to not caring. So dehumanizing.
That’s the thing that bothers me about Gen Z as a Millennial. But they constantly spout about “respect me, respect my mental health, respect my boundaries” ALL OF WHICH IS GREAT. But then when you’re an authority figure, their mother/father or teacher or whatever, they disregard doing all those things for YOU. Which shows those great ideas are just nonsense. That’s where it becomes entitlement too “give it to me, but do not expect it to you.” When talking about things like consent they say “no is a complete sentence” which is 100% true! But then when you say, “no” to their extra credit request after not doing a shred of homework it’s up to argue.
Teaching in inner cities has always been this way. I was a student in inner city schools from the late 90s-early 2010s. They’ve never respected teachers there, either. I’ve seen teachers get attacked and items thrown at them for asking the class to be quiet. That’s why teachers only teach there to get those expensive loans paid off! It’s a sad state of affairs. Learning is a beautiful thing.
Thank you for sharing! You expressed the issues with Gen Z beautifully!
"I don't want to get too feisty." Thank God you did, and it would be great if more people did. Amazing that these kids are in elementary/middle school...based on your description I just assumed they were older. It makes me worry about the future.