This is my most anticipated scene. I still remember my image of the change: Jessica seeing herself in a blackened room where she was a brown gaseous form, turning into white-blue to signify the change as she connects with the Reverend Mother and Alia. If it shows up in the film, I can't wait to see what Denis saw when reading it
Dude, that would be a visually PERFECT image: the deep black room - with brown, suspended features of gas (or dust or vapor or spice or smoke) - with an exquisitely textured, in-motion, soul-interpreting visage of Jessica... like a state of the art visualization of Prcs.Leia in her hologram, only super nifty and artsy and real, _real_ trippy-deep, like some Alex Grey shit, in some kind of heightened ayahuasca experience intake of her own being and becoming... Very clear, very real, very immaculate, in a turning perspective. Yeah... That would be a proper beat on that! We'll see. Looking forward to it... Always too long!
@@justinklenk damn, imagine Alex Grey type imagery for Dune? That'd be wild. The other thing I'm excited to see is the passing of memories from Ramallo to Jessica. That image of their foreheads touching each other was so overwhelming
This scene in imax theatre is beyond words. it has been in my mind ever since hearing and seeing it. the movie is truly a masterpiece and needs to be seen on the biggest screen possible. I cant remember the last time a movie had an effect on me like this did.
I really enjoyed in the music, you hear this deep wail from (I think) the brass section, as the blue liquid surrounds Alia and creates the "abomination". Truly a dark emphasis of "What have we done? She is pregnant!"
I sincerely hope they see the line of Rev Mothers as opportunity for cameos from Francesca Annis and Sian Phillips and even Sean Young, Virginia Madsen, and Alicia Witt. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
@@schelle8 It wouldn't be completely recognizable but it would be a nod to the previous Dune fans and I don't see anything wrong with that. They are the cult following that kept Dune alive and probably the reason we're even getting a second go at this.
This moment right here is what will either lose audiences, or sell them on Dune. And I know Denis will do it right! He’s such an amazing visual storyteller. I was such a fan of the few psychedelic scenes we got in part one, and the way he used the rumbling of the sand to represent the sea of timelines
Thanks so much for featuring my artwork in the video! Love the channel! Also cool to be featured along with Brad Wright's art, his artwork got me interested in reading dune in the first place! Which has led me to doing several dune inspired artworks. Cant wait for part 2, one of my most anticipated films!
i ABSOLUTELY CANNOT WAIT TO SEE, "experience" Dune Pt. II! I have been waiting for this literally since I was a teen in high school, reading Dune when it first appeared in 1965! Yes, I was a Senior that year, and that book (all of them in the series) has kept me in its thrall since then. I wish, in my fantasy, that dune Pt. II would be a film, oh, say, 12 hours in lenght?? LOLOL, Denis, sir, THANK-YOU!
@@secretsofdune this dive into the eye tho reminds of Macbeth where he's shown the glass displaying the line of Banquo's descendents.. unsettling and something that seems inevitable/unable to oppose.. or maybe visually is like that part in The Hobbit movies where Gandalf faces Sauron and is like looking deeper and deeper into a repeating image, a fractal?
I hope they show how the water ceremony is a double whammy for Jessica because she's pregnant. The scene in the book of her calming the terrified embryo is totally compelling. it was a shock for them all. So not only does Jessica change the water she also has to save her daughter. quite the witch!
I'm working on a Dune channel in German and videos like these from yourself and Quinn's Ideas are really inspirational so thanks for the videos and I'll make sure to develop my own ideas rather than copy others. The way you create that water of life experience with the effects is very impressive and hopefully, as you say, Villeneuve tries a more abstract and risky approach to create the out of world feel of the spice agony.
I really hope that Denis is portraying this scene like a realistic psychedelic experience, because I'm so sure he would be able to. But the question is, is he allowed to do so...
@@secretsofdune I'm worried Denis' "cinematic realism" won't get anywhere as trippy as the scene deserves. The book's description of Paul's visions of waves of time, or seeing Chani's body in multiple positions all at once, or rewinding+simulating the sand avalanche, or seeing the branching/converging ornithopter trajectories in the sandstorm, all were completely unrepresented with only pure cinematic cuts to normal shots, albeit with lens flares to communicate it being part of the Sight.
@@Hysube Denis isn't Disney, but having said that, I agree with you & Gray above. DV needs to go all in on the psychedelic aspect of TWoL scene. The source material calls for it, and to do justice to that very important part of the story, it needs to be mind altering & profoundly trippy.
@@MrX-zz2vk as said I'd something like Disney can get away with it in heavy tone I think he should be able to pull it off. My point is that if something as shitty as Disney can do it, it should be a walk in the park for him... He did great with the first part of dune...
I am wondering how will they portray 'a place where no woman dare to look' during Jessica's trance. Will they even include it? They can visually present that as a door but Jessica is afraid to walk in. That would pay off beautifully when Paul finally takes water of life scene and decides to walk through that door. I am think they might talk about it during conversation between Ramallo and Jessica when memories will be shared.
It's interesting that you ask that. It was completely absent from the script I read from, that script with the Water of Life scenes was for Part One though.
@@secretsofdune Yeah, I mean that story feature must be somewhat integral to his ultimate evolution, in this case vis-à-vis her own limits, right? (I've not read the books, just surmising myself, there.)
Liking... commenting... holding my hands over my eyes... It'll be interesting to come back to these videos after I see the film! Thank you for your content!
I have doubts about how Denis will carry out this scene. His approach in the first film was very realistic, trying not to expose too much fantasy and leaving the mystical side to the viewer's imagination. The visions and the Bene Gesserit scenes in Dune 1 were executed simply, without major effects or exaggerations. I think we might run into something similar in Part 2.
I have the same reservations but, to be fair to DV, he was probably playing it safe on part 1 bc he didn't know if there would even be a part 2. We'll see.
@@abstractnonsense3253 I hope that’s the case but he’s said in the past that he wants to represent the mystical/psychedelic imagery in dune through the sound design/score and cinematography. I hope he actually uses the tools of effects and cgi to push how this sequence is portrayed because there’s so much he could do
Listening to, and envvisioning this scene now, is one very big difference and departure from Dune 1984 and Dune 2000!!! There is a richness here left alone by the 2 previous versions.
Awesome work Rali. Listening to you talk about the love scene, I've got a feeling we could hear "take my breath away" from Top Gun 🤣🤣🤣. I'm looking forward to this in theaters. Hopefully we get some marketing soon and an extended edition one day.
_As always your videos are _*_superb!!_*_ I _*_dearly hope_*_ that your speculations -- with your _*_truly beautiful_*_ visualizations -- come to Be!!_ All that said, may I suggest that the application of the color *gold* _could_ also be a subtle nod to the precept in *Alchemy* of [[ the state/condition of ]] Perfect Transformation, of attaining a state transcendent above mundane and/or mortal [[ i.e. earthbound; physically and/or temporarily limited ]] existence... 🤔
Really well done. I have always thought the Water of Life scene would be a wild ride. This gives me confidence that Part II will do the scene justice... but what will it's censorship rating be???
If it plays out like this it's good enough for me. It doesn't include the unexpected problem with Alia but it would probably complicate the visionary scene too much on film. They can explain verbally what happened after. If they execute this well, and are not afraid of looking too spiritual and psychedelic, it will be a fantastic scene. Your own rendition was great by the way.
Thanks I appreciate that. Yeah they could make the moment of birth itself the moment when they realise this child is different. Or perhaps she can communicate with Alia in the womb through the mind.
@@secretsofdune Now that I think of it, they'll probably hint at the danger of Alia with some ominous music during the scene but only talk about it afterward.
So far Villeneuve's way of showing Paul's visions has been without much cinematic imagination. I am afraid he doesn't dare to step out and into the surreal and psycadelic visual and sonical effects. But I hope, that I am wrong. Does anybody know if Frank Herbert tried ayahuasca or something like that?
When I saw it in theaters (spoilers) I had a thought that one of the past reverend mothers must have gone native or something, like was either a Freman taken under the wing of a BG and became a Reverand Mother, or one who just got taken in by the Freman culture and truly believed the "prophecy." Like a drop of something poisoning the well, all the ones who came after were completely convinced the Mahdi was real. Could explain why Jessica went so 180 in the movie. I get she could have been just really hamming up the "mother of the mahdi" thing to protect Paul, but the way JF played it at times it seemed like she really believed Paul was the prophet and not just a potential KH protected by the Freman. I couldn't imagine her telling him to drink the water of life after literally just telling him it's lethal to men unless she 100% believed he was the one. Also couldn't picture her being pleased the Holy War was happening after seeing how upset Paul was unless it was part of the Mahdi freeing/punishing the universe or something. JF definitely masterfully blurred the line between spreading propaganda and genuinely believing prophecy. Alia as well seeming to just fully believe in Paul from the moment the water of life affected her too. Could be her wanting power, setting herself up as priestess of the cult of muad'dib, using his importance for herself, almost like if the possession/abomination already happened and that's the Harkonnen part of her bloodline speaking. But wanting to protect Paul and wanting him to fulfill his destiny, almost sounds like she's been taken in by the Freman lore even more so. It just made me think, what if one Reverand Mother was more Freman than not? Sorry for the ramble :)
This is a great way to tell the 'Water of Life' sequence. I love if it turns out this way, however... I hope they leave the Sex scene part out, it's not that I don't mind two people having sex but I look at it like this. Something as intimate as it is feels like it needs to be implied not shown. The David Lynch Version showed the love they had without a full blown Sex Scene. Yet we still got the Great love they had for one another. The only people who would even Want to see this is people who want to imagine themselves as Paul or Chani in that moment. That in itself is just wrong, but human nature draws us to those feelings and in turn it pulls us out of the story and distracts us for the rest of it. I'm going to leave with: Titanic's Iconic part. Kate on the couch naked. Didn't need to be there, there could have been another way to tell that scene, but we still remember it as a scene in where we dared to be in that place at that time. From that point all we could think about was that scene from time to time.
If i were the writer for the script I wouln't put the water of life scene at least as a flashback and based on what they did with the dinner party wich was ommited I can expect they are going to start the movie after the two years gap, there is no way you can adapt a movie with that time jump, but just avoiding it and maybe flashback it with Paul's dreams.
I have thought about the possibility of them starting after two years has passed. It is very possible and would make sense. They could revisit key moments from the past in memory flashes.
They need to do The Water of Life scene something very much along the lines of what you described here. It would be a travesty otherwise. It seems I keep saying stuff like this. You keep building up our anticipation of Part 2 to such an extent that Denis & Co could very possibly disappoint us bitterly if the final product doesn't deliver on an epic, grand scale. If DV chooses an abbreviated, understated, scaled down adaptation of TWoL and once again cheats us out of a mind blowing experience just to reduce film run time compared to what was filmed, I'll be very pissed! If he says "Yeah, we filmed an awesome Water of Life scene, but I decided it went too long and took up 20 minutes, so I cut it down to 2 minutes. I'm sure you won't mind" I'm going to be VERY angry!!
It's up to Denis and the team to deliver. The only expectations I encourage is that which either comes from the book or from the filmmakers themselves (some of which we haven't gotten to see). You'd have every right to be annoyed if it was anything less that.
At least Denis said that Part One was just introduction and worldbuilding for the world of Dune. Maybe he cut some of the scenes in Part One because he thought it would be too much for the first movie. But I think the same, to see this scene like described in the video is what most people might expect after Paul and Jessica finally meeting the Fremen at the end of the first film.
That’s very very kind of you. Thank you. I have considered this and done some such work which is available on my Patreon. But I’m thinking to do more in the future. Thank you for your kind comment.
I was so hyped for the dinner scene in Dune part so when it wasn't there so I was a bit disappointed. The film is still incredible though, and I understand the need to cut a lot of the book to fit it in a movie.
@@christos1zervas I don't think I've seen anyone who wouldn't now. Maybe one or two who say it isn't needed, but they never said they wouldn't buy it if it existed haha.
I need explanation, does Paul become a reverent father once he takes the water of life? I know he unlocks the past and future and he can see clearly but nobody calls him reverent father or I don’t know maybe that title was not important because he’s the Duke of arrakis but yea in basics he is gone trough the process taken to become a reverent mother/father I am confused lol
I’m expecting visuals on the level of Dr Strange’s trip scene in the 2016 movie, but with less cosmic vibes and a more mystical approach. I know the soundtrack definitely won’t disappoint at least
So Paul takes a modified water of life, modified by Jessica's catalyst substance, and this water is not dangerous to a normal person. And only later he takes the unmodified water of life. Is this correct? It's been a while since I read Dune.
I saw the movie earlier and while they nailed the visuals, I must say that you all should lower your expectations for this scene because they kinda watered it down.
It's a polemic subject but i think that the explicit love scenes in all movies are purely commercial I think that there's no need to show such intimate relationship. Without these scenes the movie will still be great ..as in the first volume.
The only thing I recall differently was that Jessica saw the reverned mother as a young woman, and she confirmed to her in vision that yes, it was her and how she was in her mind despite her body giving out. That is when she then tells Jessica how dangerous it was to undertake the right as pregnant and that she risked her child and coached her how to have Alia survive the ordeal. I think what was shown in the video would work though for the purposes of the movie. Sometimes keeping it more simple works there as opposed to trying to visually capture every moment from that scene. One of my most anticipated moments for the movie.
I really hope Dune 2 shows more gore. There is something so strange to me about Dune 1, in that, people are being massacred with swords and there is no spray or blood pooling. I am no gore fiend, I am actually quite squeamish(I actually momentarily passed out watching All is Quiet on the Western Front in the theatre, lol) but when I am watching Sci Fi or Fantasy, to fully immerse in the fiction, I need it to feel real. When the Sardaukar were being killed by Duncan there were just little red stains on their suits in the aftermath, and no visible blood when they were being killed.Duncan was absolutely butchering them too and they're wearing white uniforms so I mean, its a little jarring to me. Now compare that to that one scene in Blade Runner where David Dastmalchian's character is killed. It is so subtle, and yet, extremely disturbing in its depiction. It feels real. Villeneuve knows how to depict violence really well. Imagine a scene where someone is killed in Dune and the blood spray comes out so dramatically that the shield stops it and lights up blue (Like the Atreides ships did when they were nuked from the sky, they exploded from within the shield due to the speed of the internal explosion) and so it all reverberates and falls down their body within their shield until it slowly pools around their body. That would be so disturbing but it would really stand out as a visually distinctive depiction of violence in Dune lore. Some poor sardaukar getting back sprayed with his own blood as it hits his shield, haha.
It is very weird to show the most brutal soldiers (Sardaukar) and not have those scenes accompanied with that kind of gore as you say. I think they tried to find their way around that by putting the red marks on their clothes and the one ritual before battle with the crucified prisoners.
@@secretsofdune A missed opportunity for sure. But I am only disapointed by it because Dune got so many other elements right. I have a good few other opinions on what could have been better too though, including a more subtle soundtrack and more colourful and strange looking garments and uniforms for a psychedelic, feudal, space empire 10,000 years in the future. If they are referencing ancient empires from earth as well as the feudal system of the middle ages and middle east, they should be a lot more colourful and obviously strange looking as a result of the context the narrative is set in(they are probably not going to have military uniforms that resemble those of today - Atreides soldiers look way too familiar to me)
In another video I watched it was discussed using the example that they had water come out of Dr. Kynes stillsuit instead of blood in effort to avoid an R rating. Dune could easily venture into the R category if the makers wished it. Especially with the scenes of the Barons disgusting inhibitions. Curious how they will tip toe around that if they even do.
It is a very strange concept that a society can store all the water on a planet and hide it underground. I love Dune and all the books of that series, but this concept does not ring true.
How is it that the Reverand Mother did not know Jessica was pregnant and stopped her from taking the water of life? Wouldn't the Reverand Mother want to avoid an abomination?
If only. Oh, what I wouldn't give! It's really sad to me, what they did to Chani in the second film. It's an exciting movie. The first half builds so much promise for Chani and Paul that is then completely squandered by the modern mind-virus ("Chani don't need no man!"). It becomes so heavy handed by the end. After Paul drinks the water, her arc just goes completely off the rails into absurdist territory. If they had just let her be as she was written... A faithful skeptic who comes to believe in Paul through his miraculous, prophetic steps through fate to deliver her people from evil occupation and oppression. But this Chani doesn't seem to know anything... except that she doesn't like it! And pouts and bickers at the council and Paul and Jessica until the end of the movie where she, (NOT PAUL), rides off alone into the desert. She's become that character in those ridiculous movies where the young person is the only one who knows something bad is about to happen. But none of the "big dumb adults" will listen to them. In order for Dune: Messiah to feel like what it's *supposed* to feel like, Dune has to feel the way it originally written. A triumph for good vs evil with subtle undertones of possible impending danger. Not guaranteed danger like this! Where the audience feels assured that every victory for the good guys means one step closer to ultimate horror for the galaxy. So *eeeeevery effing sceeene* where Paul is getting the followers hyped up for the next step, they just HAVE to cut to Chani's sour expression over and over. Beating the audience over the head. As if she had ANY better alternative whatsoever. I mean what an IDIOT they made her into. Without Paul they all die horribly and the evil empire cracks on with business as usual. Rolling the barrels of spice right over their graves. Literal planetary genocide. Is she suggesting that's a better idea? No? So she's just dumb then? Great. Wonderful job. No, they chose to make this film FEEL like Dune: Messiah. Which kills the hype for me. We're supposed to love Paul and his cause. Not fear him. We're supposed to ship Chani and Paul as the ultimate fated lovers. True love. Not a hook-up gone wrong. Her love is what allows him to carry the burden. It's lame. It's 2024 spoiled brat "people and relationships are disposable" social media culture. So they used Chani to change the tone of the whole story to the next chapter. In order to avoid criticism of supporting a "white savior trope ". Sad. Such a technical masterpiece... wasted on a bad script. We will regret this era of stupidity if we survive it. People need love and loyalty to handle the burden of life's suffering. Unless they are spoiled rotten. And addicted to vapid interests of vanity and social status. It isn't PAUL that's bad. He's the ultimate good guy. Empowered to save the innocent and punish the greatest evil in existence. IT'S THE DOMINO EFFECT THAT LEADS TO DISASTER. Not HIM. Not his wishes or orders or actions. The story of Jesus, the ultimate pacifist preaching love, eventually turned into the Crusades! And the Spanish Inquisition! What if the story of Jesus had a moment where he could see visions of the horrors carried out in his name? But knew it was the only way to save humanity? Sound familiar? Now what if they wrote Mary slapping him on the cross?? DUMB. Sad and dumb.
Still I appreciate you being here. This scene may not happen exactly as I've stated in the video anyway because it is based on old Part One drafts. But I get the curiosity to know more about a forthcoming film which is why I make these.
It's from a draft of the Dune script for Part One. Some of the deleted scenes which were filmed are also written in the Dune draft that aren't in the shooting script. It's authentic. It's a script by both Villeneuve and Roth, with revisions from Spaihts and it's just a draft, so it's technically a mixture of three writers.
@@secretsofdune Thank you for the response. I accept this script on the basis that it is a draft. Taking for example the Prometheus script which Spaihts also co-wrote, it's also significantly more expository than the final film. But that was also the work of Lindelof so there's no real way to know who did what. But this Dune draft gives me an extremely strong sense that Villeneueve (or whoever brought the essentialist sensibility) did not yet cut through it to it's essence.
I hear you and I can actually agree with your assessment. I don’t think it will be as “colorful” as the way the scene was written just as the draft in general differs from the final movie.
The problem is they were also speaking about it from memory after I asked them questions about it. They answered to the best of their ability but I also think some sequences weren’t complete with effects when they were screening it for people. That means that if there were any visuals they might not have been completed for the water of life sequence. I’d love to learn more about the sequence from the test screenings too.
You expect way too much of the director. As with everything he visualised, he will impose his autistic, depressed, colourless, detail free version of things. It will be a dull sequence. Nevertheless, my fellow Dune fans will make excuses for it and call it brilliant.
@@rubiksworld2170 It was fan service. It utterly failed to interest any non existing Dune fans in the IP. Like all his movies, it disappeared from public consciousness a month after release.
@@rubiksworld2170 I initially was intrigued by him and really, really, wanted to like Blade Runner 2042 seeing as the original BR is my favourite movie of all time. So it's not like I didn't do my best to like his work. But BR2042 was garbage with an utterly forgettable soundtrack. He has a certain style but unfortunately that style is cold, depressed, muted colours and still, cold, bare rooms. And mumbled dialogue with no emotion shown apart from either blank stares or screaming. If a child were to depict their lives in such a way in pictures drawn for a psychologist then that child would be diagnosed as being autistic. You can even see the 'genetic markers' to use a phrase from Dune, in Villeneuve's face, the way his upper eye ridges slope down betray that he is on a spectrum of some kind. High functioning Asperger's I am guessing. As such, he is blind to human warmth and actual relationships in movies. Everything in his films, including people, are just objects to be positioned here and there. And worst of all, he thinks his infantile dialogue and ideas are superior to the source material. A case in point being the juvinile level writing that has Jessica telling Paul that his father 'didn't believe in revenge'. lol what a crock. Leto literally sent an attack team to blow up the Baron's spice stores on Geidi Prime in retaliation for the attempt on Paul's life. He also rebuffed the Baron's overtures and invoked 'kanly' which is basically feud and revenge cycle that goes all the way to the clan DNA. A year after his first Dune movie, only Dune fans talk about it. Nobody remembers the music apart from the obligatory and ubiquitous 'wailing woman' that goes with every movies that involves some kind of ancient or primitive people since Gladiator came out. The rest of the soundtrack is just garbage. No dialogue, no scenes, nothing. The main cultured chewed that movie for two hours in the cinema like chewing gum and as soon as they left the theatre it lost it's flavour and they spat it out never to think of it again.
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This is my most anticipated scene. I still remember my image of the change: Jessica seeing herself in a blackened room where she was a brown gaseous form, turning into white-blue to signify the change as she connects with the Reverend Mother and Alia. If it shows up in the film, I can't wait to see what Denis saw when reading it
Dude, that would be a visually PERFECT image: the deep black room - with brown, suspended features of gas (or dust or vapor or spice or smoke) - with an exquisitely textured, in-motion, soul-interpreting visage of Jessica... like a state of the art visualization of Prcs.Leia in her hologram, only super nifty and artsy and real, _real_ trippy-deep, like some Alex Grey shit, in some kind of heightened ayahuasca experience intake of her own being and becoming... Very clear, very real, very immaculate, in a turning perspective. Yeah... That would be a proper beat on that!
We'll see. Looking forward to it... Always too long!
@@justinklenk damn, imagine Alex Grey type imagery for Dune? That'd be wild. The other thing I'm excited to see is the passing of memories from Ramallo to Jessica. That image of their foreheads touching each other was so overwhelming
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Yeah, a bonafide counterpoint, perhaps, to Giger's visions for the Alien franchise?
Let's see what they do with that scene...
This scene in imax theatre is beyond words. it has been in my mind ever since hearing and seeing it. the movie is truly a masterpiece and needs to be seen on the biggest screen possible. I cant remember the last time a movie had an effect on me like this did.
I nearly thought i will get psychosis. That was too crazy. Very intence experience.
I really enjoyed in the music, you hear this deep wail from (I think) the brass section, as the blue liquid surrounds Alia and creates the "abomination". Truly a dark emphasis of "What have we done? She is pregnant!"
Watched this film two days ago and this scene BLEW ME AWAY.
I sincerely hope they see the line of Rev Mothers as opportunity for cameos from Francesca Annis and Sian Phillips and even Sean Young, Virginia Madsen, and Alicia Witt. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
That would be incredible honestly.
No please I don't want to be reminded of the terrible 1984 movie again. Also honestly don't think Villeneuve is a fan of that meta nonsense.
@@schelle8 It wouldn't be completely recognizable but it would be a nod to the previous Dune fans and I don't see anything wrong with that. They are the cult following that kept Dune alive and probably the reason we're even getting a second go at this.
Precisely
@@schelle8 don't be so sure. Marianne Fathfull did one of the voices of the Paul's spice visions.
This is a beautiful rendering! One of the most beautiful (and terrifying) scenes fro the original novel.
This moment right here is what will either lose audiences, or sell them on Dune. And I know Denis will do it right! He’s such an amazing visual storyteller. I was such a fan of the few psychedelic scenes we got in part one, and the way he used the rumbling of the sand to represent the sea of timelines
It's such an amazing scene in the book, it moved me when i first read it. i really hope they're able to capture that same essence.
I hope so too. I really think it has the potential to be a cinematic masterpiece of a scene.
Thanks so much for featuring my artwork in the video!
Love the channel!
Also cool to be featured along with Brad Wright's art, his artwork got me interested in reading dune in the first place!
Which has led me to doing several dune inspired artworks.
Cant wait for part 2, one of my most anticipated films!
My pleasure. This was the project I was referring to when I said that the piece came at a good time and could be used for something cool.
i ABSOLUTELY CANNOT WAIT TO SEE, "experience" Dune Pt. II! I have been waiting for this literally since I was a teen in high school, reading Dune when it first appeared in 1965! Yes, I was a Senior that year, and that book (all of them in the series) has kept me in its thrall since then. I wish, in my fantasy, that dune Pt. II would be a film, oh, say, 12 hours in lenght?? LOLOL, Denis, sir, THANK-YOU!
Really great narration, petition for this channel to do the audiobooks 😅
That would be a dream haha
The eye motif...like at start of Villeneuve's Bladerunner 2049 😉
Yeah this will have eye motif x1000
@@secretsofdune this dive into the eye tho reminds of Macbeth where he's shown the glass displaying the line of Banquo's descendents.. unsettling and something that seems inevitable/unable to oppose.. or maybe visually is like that part in The Hobbit movies where Gandalf faces Sauron and is like looking deeper and deeper into a repeating image, a fractal?
@@neilmurphy966 It's quite possible that that was an inspiration for the written scene.
Them making love is something I definitely can see getting cut or scraped. Part two will probably be a pg-13 movie like last time.
Yeah I can't really see that happening in the way it is described either. Maybe hints, kisses certainly, but not much more than that.
I hope they show how the water ceremony is a double whammy for Jessica because she's pregnant. The scene in the book of her calming the terrified embryo is totally compelling. it was a shock for them all. So not only does Jessica change the water she also has to save her daughter. quite the witch!
Love the finger click. ( visual) . Well done
Thanks Shane glad you enjoyed. Thank you for all your support.
@Secrets of Dune my pleasure sir
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Your video production continues at an higher level of excellence ... Thank you
Thank you I really appreciate that. Just trying to create as much of an enjoyable experience as possible.
Can I just say "Holy frakkin spiceballs that sounds frikkin awesome!!" Keep them coming Rali, bro.💯👊🏾
Will do
I'm working on a Dune channel in German and videos like these from yourself and Quinn's Ideas are really inspirational so thanks for the videos and I'll make sure to develop my own ideas rather than copy others. The way you create that water of life experience with the effects is very impressive and hopefully, as you say, Villeneuve tries a more abstract and risky approach to create the out of world feel of the spice agony.
That's great to hear. I wish you all the best with it. Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Let's be honest...
One can never use too many Rebecca Ferguson pictures in any video, right?
She's too gorgeous.
i cant wait to see Dune part 2 its going to be a trippy movie
Here's hoping.
Amazing! I'm really looking forward to it! It's gonna be an astonishing, mind-blowing scene. I hope it's as mesmerizing as in the David Lynch film!
I really hope that Denis is portraying this scene like a realistic psychedelic experience, because I'm so sure he would be able to. But the question is, is he allowed to do so...
Hopefully he won't see it as "alienating audiences."
@@secretsofdune I'm worried Denis' "cinematic realism" won't get anywhere as trippy as the scene deserves. The book's description of Paul's visions of waves of time, or seeing Chani's body in multiple positions all at once, or rewinding+simulating the sand avalanche, or seeing the branching/converging ornithopter trajectories in the sandstorm, all were completely unrepresented with only pure cinematic cuts to normal shots, albeit with lens flares to communicate it being part of the Sight.
I mean if Disney pulled of the first Dr strange I couldn't see why not
@@Hysube Denis isn't Disney, but having said that, I agree with you & Gray above. DV needs to go all in on the psychedelic aspect of TWoL scene. The source material calls for it, and to do justice to that very important part of the story, it needs to be mind altering & profoundly trippy.
@@MrX-zz2vk as said I'd something like Disney can get away with it in heavy tone I think he should be able to pull it off. My point is that if something as shitty as Disney can do it, it should be a walk in the park for him... He did great with the first part of dune...
I am wondering how will they portray 'a place where no woman dare to look' during Jessica's trance. Will they even include it? They can visually present that as a door but Jessica is afraid to walk in. That would pay off beautifully when Paul finally takes water of life scene and decides to walk through that door. I am think they might talk about it during conversation between Ramallo and Jessica when memories will be shared.
It's interesting that you ask that. It was completely absent from the script I read from, that script with the Water of Life scenes was for Part One though.
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Yeah, I mean that story feature must be somewhat integral to his ultimate evolution, in this case vis-à-vis her own limits, right? (I've not read the books, just surmising myself, there.)
I always imagined it as like a dark cavern or a black hole
Well the book description calls it a region of Sparks and rings of light and a wind from nowhere.
I absolutely love your videos. I feel transfigured in your narrations. Really great content. Thank you for sharing.
Very kind of you. Really glad that you enjoy it!
Liking... commenting... holding my hands over my eyes... It'll be interesting to come back to these videos after I see the film! Thank you for your content!
Thank you for the unwavering commitment haha. Appreciate it.
I’m digging your channel. And your helping me figure out the details of these films
Thank you Max. Glad you're enjoying the channel.
I have doubts about how Denis will carry out this scene. His approach in the first film was very realistic, trying not to expose too much fantasy and leaving the mystical side to the viewer's imagination. The visions and the Bene Gesserit scenes in Dune 1 were executed simply, without major effects or exaggerations. I think we might run into something similar in Part 2.
I have the same reservations but, to be fair to DV, he was probably playing it safe on part 1 bc he didn't know if there would even be a part 2. We'll see.
@@abstractnonsense3253 I hope that’s the case but he’s said in the past that he wants to represent the mystical/psychedelic imagery in dune through the sound design/score and cinematography. I hope he actually uses the tools of effects and cgi to push how this sequence is portrayed because there’s so much he could do
I mean a giant worm that eats anything in its path isn’t that realistic😂😂
Listening to, and envvisioning this scene now, is one very big difference and departure from Dune 1984 and Dune 2000!!! There is a richness here left alone by the 2 previous versions.
"The sleeper has awakened"! CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Awesome work Rali.
Listening to you talk about the love scene, I've got a feeling we could hear "take my breath away" from Top Gun 🤣🤣🤣. I'm looking forward to this in theaters. Hopefully we get some marketing soon and an extended edition one day.
Appreciate it. Yeah I still hold out hope for an extended edition. I'm giving them until after Dune Part Two is released on demand.
_"...In this foolish lovers' game..."_
I could see this scene as part of the Dune opening credits.
I am a native Arabic and your pronunciation of Arabic words is amazing.
Thank you bro I appreciate that.
_As always your videos are _*_superb!!_*_ I _*_dearly hope_*_ that your speculations -- with your _*_truly beautiful_*_ visualizations -- come to Be!!_ All that said, may I suggest that the application of the color *gold* _could_ also be a subtle nod to the precept in *Alchemy* of [[ the state/condition of ]] Perfect Transformation, of attaining a state transcendent above mundane and/or mortal [[ i.e. earthbound; physically and/or temporarily limited ]] existence... 🤔
Thank you for that. Yes indeed you are right transmutation into Gold is probably also symbolic of the gold color change.
Really well done. I have always thought the Water of Life scene would be a wild ride. This gives me confidence that Part II will do the scene justice... but what will it's censorship rating be???
Villneuve is going to go full 2001 star gate trip. Apparently it’s his favorite film so I’m sure it will by psychedelic
Let's hope so.
I hope it stays like this and we hear "I see you in my dreams" from Dune Sketchbook album. Gotta be. Just gotta be.
If it plays out like this it's good enough for me. It doesn't include the unexpected problem with Alia but it would probably complicate the visionary scene too much on film. They can explain verbally what happened after. If they execute this well, and are not afraid of looking too spiritual and psychedelic, it will be a fantastic scene. Your own rendition was great by the way.
Thanks I appreciate that. Yeah they could make the moment of birth itself the moment when they realise this child is different. Or perhaps she can communicate with Alia in the womb through the mind.
@@secretsofdune Now that I think of it, they'll probably hint at the danger of Alia with some ominous music during the scene but only talk about it afterward.
@@abstractnonsense3253 Yeah there's definitely a few ways they can go about it. I'm intrigued to see how they pull it off.
So far Villeneuve's way of showing Paul's visions has been without much cinematic imagination. I am afraid he doesn't dare to step out and into the surreal and psycadelic visual and sonical effects. But I hope, that I am wrong. Does anybody know if Frank Herbert tried ayahuasca or something like that?
I've heard he loved mushrooms...
And was greatly influenced by them. I believe it shows, and quite epically... Quite well.
"From water does all life begin.." -O.C.Bible 😉
Fantastic reading! Thank you.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
So, even if they never make a CoD movie, we'll get to see a vision of the Preacher. Awesome!
When I saw it in theaters (spoilers) I had a thought that one of the past reverend mothers must have gone native or something, like was either a Freman taken under the wing of a BG and became a Reverand Mother, or one who just got taken in by the Freman culture and truly believed the "prophecy." Like a drop of something poisoning the well, all the ones who came after were completely convinced the Mahdi was real. Could explain why Jessica went so 180 in the movie. I get she could have been just really hamming up the "mother of the mahdi" thing to protect Paul, but the way JF played it at times it seemed like she really believed Paul was the prophet and not just a potential KH protected by the Freman. I couldn't imagine her telling him to drink the water of life after literally just telling him it's lethal to men unless she 100% believed he was the one. Also couldn't picture her being pleased the Holy War was happening after seeing how upset Paul was unless it was part of the Mahdi freeing/punishing the universe or something. JF definitely masterfully blurred the line between spreading propaganda and genuinely believing prophecy. Alia as well seeming to just fully believe in Paul from the moment the water of life affected her too. Could be her wanting power, setting herself up as priestess of the cult of muad'dib, using his importance for herself, almost like if the possession/abomination already happened and that's the Harkonnen part of her bloodline speaking. But wanting to protect Paul and wanting him to fulfill his destiny, almost sounds like she's been taken in by the Freman lore even more so. It just made me think, what if one Reverand Mother was more Freman than not? Sorry for the ramble :)
"We may get to see a bearded, Timothée Chalamet"
Okay, now I'm hyped.
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I just read that in the book and had no clue how it would translate into film
Ah maaan.. they blew it. Was so hyped for the scene and it was a big let down. You freaking nailed it though here holy cow.
My favorite novel and movie!!
This is a great way to tell the 'Water of Life' sequence.
I love if it turns out this way, however...
I hope they leave the Sex scene part out, it's not that I don't mind two people having sex but I look at it like this.
Something as intimate as it is feels like it needs to be implied not shown.
The David Lynch Version showed the love they had without a full blown Sex Scene. Yet we still got the Great love they had for one another.
The only people who would even Want to see this is people who want to imagine themselves as Paul or Chani in that moment. That in itself is just wrong, but human nature draws us to those feelings and in turn it pulls us out of the story and distracts us for the rest of it.
I'm going to leave with: Titanic's Iconic part. Kate on the couch naked. Didn't need to be there, there could have been another way to tell that scene, but we still remember it as a scene in where we dared to be in that place at that time. From that point all we could think about was that scene from time to time.
If i were the writer for the script I wouln't put the water of life scene at least as a flashback and based on what they did with the dinner party wich was ommited I can expect they are going to start the movie after the two years gap, there is no way you can adapt a movie with that time jump, but just avoiding it and maybe flashback it with Paul's dreams.
I have thought about the possibility of them starting after two years has passed. It is very possible and would make sense. They could revisit key moments from the past in memory flashes.
You’ve got a point but I’d be so disappointed 😩
I think there's going to be a part three.
They need to do The Water of Life scene something very much along the lines of what you described here. It would be a travesty otherwise.
It seems I keep saying stuff like this. You keep building up our anticipation of Part 2 to such an extent that Denis & Co could very possibly disappoint us bitterly if the final product doesn't deliver on an epic, grand scale.
If DV chooses an abbreviated, understated, scaled down adaptation of TWoL and once again cheats us out of a mind blowing experience just to reduce film run time compared to what was filmed, I'll be very pissed!
If he says "Yeah, we filmed an awesome Water of Life scene, but I decided it went too long and took up 20 minutes, so I cut it down to 2 minutes. I'm sure you won't mind" I'm going to be VERY angry!!
It's up to Denis and the team to deliver. The only expectations I encourage is that which either comes from the book or from the filmmakers themselves (some of which we haven't gotten to see). You'd have every right to be annoyed if it was anything less that.
At least Denis said that Part One was just introduction and worldbuilding for the world of Dune. Maybe he cut some of the scenes in Part One because he thought it would be too much for the first movie.
But I think the same, to see this scene like described in the video is what most people might expect after Paul and Jessica finally meeting the Fremen at the end of the first film.
You have such a lovely voice. Perhaps you could consider reading The Dun books as audio
Thank You
That’s very very kind of you. Thank you. I have considered this and done some such work which is available on my Patreon. But I’m thinking to do more in the future. Thank you for your kind comment.
Sublime!!❤
I was so hyped for the dinner scene in Dune part so when it wasn't there so I was a bit disappointed. The film is still incredible though, and I understand the need to cut a lot of the book to fit it in a movie.
Would you like an extended cut of Dune if there was one?
@@secretsofdune I would buy one!
@@christos1zervas I don't think I've seen anyone who wouldn't now. Maybe one or two who say it isn't needed, but they never said they wouldn't buy it if it existed haha.
I'm calling it now...all the sex scenes will be accompanied by a sick Dub Step needle drop
For the serious Tiktokers I suppose 😂
@@secretsofdune how about an orchestral version of "Spice Up Your Life", by the Spice Girls?
Dune montages with that will never get old.
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If it isn’t a shot for shot remake of the Zion orgy in Matrix Reloaded, I don’t want it
Galactic Core Sanctuary Blessings.
bearded chalamet gave me a jumpscare
This would be such an amazing way to open the movie. Ballsy, but awesome.
What book is that being opened towards the beginning of your video? Looks like it had an illustration?
That’s the Dune Adventures in the Imperium Sand and Dust special edition. I left a link in the description box if you’re interested in it.
I need explanation, does Paul become a reverent father once he takes the water of life? I know he unlocks the past and future and he can see clearly but nobody calls him reverent father or I don’t know maybe that title was not important because he’s the Duke of arrakis but yea in basics he is gone trough the process taken to become a reverent mother/father I am confused lol
He doesn't become a reverend father but he did do what the Bene Gesserit do to become a reverend mother. It is supposed to be lethal for males.
I’m expecting visuals on the level of Dr Strange’s trip scene in the 2016 movie, but with less cosmic vibes and a more mystical approach. I know the soundtrack definitely won’t disappoint at least
So Paul takes a modified water of life, modified by Jessica's catalyst substance, and this water is not dangerous to a normal person. And only later he takes the unmodified water of life. Is this correct? It's been a while since I read Dune.
That's correct yes.
@@secretsofdune Thanks
I still think it would be realistic if Paul grew a beard during his time with the Fremen. He wouldn't be that recognisable too.
He might still be too young perhaps. I guess a bearded Paul is meant to be a shocking image, to be radically different from how he looks (currently).
@@secretsofdune teens can still grow facial hair even if it isn't going to be too pronounced. Heck, at least he can grow a little stubble... 🤣
@@FVD I agree. I think Chalamet can only grow a little goatee or so anyway haha.
I saw the movie earlier and while they nailed the visuals, I must say that you all should lower your expectations for this scene because they kinda watered it down.
Agreed.
It's a polemic subject but i think that the explicit love scenes in all movies are purely commercial
I think that there's no need to show such intimate relationship.
Without these scenes the movie will still be great ..as in the first volume.
Yes. Denis is normally about subtlety and implying things, so I doubt we would get anything like that.
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I hope so.
The only thing I recall differently was that Jessica saw the reverned mother as a young woman, and she confirmed to her in vision that yes, it was her and how she was in her mind despite her body giving out. That is when she then tells Jessica how dangerous it was to undertake the right as pregnant and that she risked her child and coached her how to have Alia survive the ordeal. I think what was shown in the video would work though for the purposes of the movie. Sometimes keeping it more simple works there as opposed to trying to visually capture every moment from that scene. One of my most anticipated moments for the movie.
Where can I find the source/the script/bits that were written, that this video covers?
I don't believe it's a available online, only the shooting script is online. That's why I made this video.
I really hope Dune 2 shows more gore. There is something so strange to me about Dune 1, in that, people are being massacred with swords and there is no spray or blood pooling. I am no gore fiend, I am actually quite squeamish(I actually momentarily passed out watching All is Quiet on the Western Front in the theatre, lol) but when I am watching Sci Fi or Fantasy, to fully immerse in the fiction, I need it to feel real. When the Sardaukar were being killed by Duncan there were just little red stains on their suits in the aftermath, and no visible blood when they were being killed.Duncan was absolutely butchering them too and they're wearing white uniforms so I mean, its a little jarring to me. Now compare that to that one scene in Blade Runner where David Dastmalchian's character is killed. It is so subtle, and yet, extremely disturbing in its depiction. It feels real. Villeneuve knows how to depict violence really well.
Imagine a scene where someone is killed in Dune and the blood spray comes out so dramatically that the shield stops it and lights up blue (Like the Atreides ships did when they were nuked from the sky, they exploded from within the shield due to the speed of the internal explosion) and so it all reverberates and falls down their body within their shield until it slowly pools around their body. That would be so disturbing but it would really stand out as a visually distinctive depiction of violence in Dune lore. Some poor sardaukar getting back sprayed with his own blood as it hits his shield, haha.
It is very weird to show the most brutal soldiers (Sardaukar) and not have those scenes accompanied with that kind of gore as you say. I think they tried to find their way around that by putting the red marks on their clothes and the one ritual before battle with the crucified prisoners.
@@secretsofdune A missed opportunity for sure. But I am only disapointed by it because Dune got so many other elements right. I have a good few other opinions on what could have been better too though, including a more subtle soundtrack and more colourful and strange looking garments and uniforms for a psychedelic, feudal, space empire 10,000 years in the future. If they are referencing ancient empires from earth as well as the feudal system of the middle ages and middle east, they should be a lot more colourful and obviously strange looking as a result of the context the narrative is set in(they are probably not going to have military uniforms that resemble those of today - Atreides soldiers look way too familiar to me)
Agreed.
In another video I watched it was discussed using the example that they had water come out of Dr. Kynes stillsuit instead of blood in effort to avoid an R rating. Dune could easily venture into the R category if the makers wished it. Especially with the scenes of the Barons disgusting inhibitions. Curious how they will tip toe around that if they even do.
Bi-Lal kaifa!
I am a bit worried about the actress for Chani tbh, I am not convinced by the casting at all.
The water of life is NASTY!
It is a very strange concept that a society can store all the water on a planet and hide it underground. I love Dune and all the books of that series, but this concept does not ring true.
WHOOOAA--
How is it that the Reverand Mother did not know Jessica was pregnant and stopped her from taking the water of life? Wouldn't the Reverand Mother want to avoid an abomination?
Jessica never told her and it was early on in the pregnancy. She only discovered it through the ceremony because they were connected.
If only. Oh, what I wouldn't give!
It's really sad to me, what they did to Chani in the second film.
It's an exciting movie. The first half builds so much promise for Chani and Paul that is then completely squandered by the modern mind-virus ("Chani don't need no man!"). It becomes so heavy handed by the end. After Paul drinks the water, her arc just goes completely off the rails into absurdist territory.
If they had just let her be as she was written... A faithful skeptic who comes to believe in Paul through his miraculous, prophetic steps through fate to deliver her people from evil occupation and oppression.
But this Chani doesn't seem to know anything... except that she doesn't like it! And pouts and bickers at the council and Paul and Jessica until the end of the movie where she, (NOT PAUL), rides off alone into the desert.
She's become that character in those ridiculous movies where the young person is the only one who knows something bad is about to happen. But none of the "big dumb adults" will listen to them.
In order for Dune: Messiah to feel like what it's *supposed* to feel like, Dune has to feel the way it originally written. A triumph for good vs evil with subtle undertones of possible impending danger. Not guaranteed danger like this! Where the audience feels assured that every victory for the good guys means one step closer to ultimate horror for the galaxy.
So *eeeeevery effing sceeene* where Paul is getting the followers hyped up for the next step, they just HAVE to cut to Chani's sour expression over and over. Beating the audience over the head. As if she had ANY better alternative whatsoever.
I mean what an IDIOT they made her into. Without Paul they all die horribly and the evil empire cracks on with business as usual. Rolling the barrels of spice right over their graves. Literal planetary genocide. Is she suggesting that's a better idea? No? So she's just dumb then? Great. Wonderful job.
No, they chose to make this film FEEL like Dune: Messiah. Which kills the hype for me. We're supposed to love Paul and his cause. Not fear him. We're supposed to ship Chani and Paul as the ultimate fated lovers. True love. Not a hook-up gone wrong. Her love is what allows him to carry the burden. It's lame. It's 2024 spoiled brat "people and relationships are disposable" social media culture. So they used Chani to change the tone of the whole story to the next chapter. In order to avoid criticism of supporting a "white savior trope ".
Sad. Such a technical masterpiece... wasted on a bad script. We will regret this era of stupidity if we survive it.
People need love and loyalty to handle the burden of life's suffering. Unless they are spoiled rotten. And addicted to vapid interests of vanity and social status.
It isn't PAUL that's bad. He's the ultimate good guy. Empowered to save the innocent and punish the greatest evil in existence. IT'S THE DOMINO EFFECT THAT LEADS TO DISASTER. Not HIM. Not his wishes or orders or actions.
The story of Jesus, the ultimate pacifist preaching love, eventually turned into the Crusades! And the Spanish Inquisition! What if the story of Jesus had a moment where he could see visions of the horrors carried out in his name? But knew it was the only way to save humanity? Sound familiar? Now what if they wrote Mary slapping him on the cross?? DUMB.
Sad and dumb.
Having not read the books the anticipation is rather high I have no idea what is going to happen. I shouldn't be watching dune content really
Still I appreciate you being here. This scene may not happen exactly as I've stated in the video anyway because it is based on old Part One drafts. But I get the curiosity to know more about a forthcoming film which is why I make these.
Is it weird if I said I came twice before the end of this video?
Pretty good draft...
It was actually a really good script, some would say even better than the final one.
Where's this all from? Feels more expositiony than Spaihts and Villneuve write.
Ah I recognise snippets I've seen of this document on Twitter.
I must say I doubt it's authenticity.
It's from a draft of the Dune script for Part One. Some of the deleted scenes which were filmed are also written in the Dune draft that aren't in the shooting script. It's authentic. It's a script by both Villeneuve and Roth, with revisions from Spaihts and it's just a draft, so it's technically a mixture of three writers.
@@secretsofdune Thank you for the response. I accept this script on the basis that it is a draft.
Taking for example the Prometheus script which Spaihts also co-wrote, it's also significantly more expository than the final film. But that was also the work of Lindelof so there's no real way to know who did what. But this Dune draft gives me an extremely strong sense that Villeneueve (or whoever brought the essentialist sensibility) did not yet cut through it to it's essence.
I hear you and I can actually agree with your assessment. I don’t think it will be as “colorful” as the way the scene was written just as the draft in general differs from the final movie.
Saw it on movie was just decent
Washing hair would be lavish!!
Wasn’t this scene included in some of the test screenings? If so, I’d love to hear how the lucky few who saw it describe these visuals.
The problem is they were also speaking about it from memory after I asked them questions about it. They answered to the best of their ability but I also think some sequences weren’t complete with effects when they were screening it for people. That means that if there were any visuals they might not have been completed for the water of life sequence. I’d love to learn more about the sequence from the test screenings too.
Would have been a great scene .but heh we wasted time for the action based part
Reverend Mother looking like Joe Biden in the illustration at 1:03 😂
Cannot unsee...
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Muddy water, no good
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Remake of.dunen was horrible. Woman not attractive for Paul.
You expect way too much of the director.
As with everything he visualised, he will impose his autistic, depressed, colourless, detail free version of things. It will be a dull sequence.
Nevertheless, my fellow Dune fans will make excuses for it and call it brilliant.
The first one was good considering it was deemed impossible to convey such an dense book in a movie.
@@rubiksworld2170 It was fan service. It utterly failed to interest any non existing Dune fans in the IP.
Like all his movies, it disappeared from public consciousness a month after release.
@@NR-rv8rz I don’t believe that’s true lol, but it sounds like you don’t like Denis’ movies in general. His movies a great
@@rubiksworld2170 I initially was intrigued by him and really, really, wanted to like Blade Runner 2042 seeing as the original BR is my favourite movie of all time. So it's not like I didn't do my best to like his work.
But BR2042 was garbage with an utterly forgettable soundtrack.
He has a certain style but unfortunately that style is cold, depressed, muted colours and still, cold, bare rooms. And mumbled dialogue with no emotion shown apart from either blank stares or screaming.
If a child were to depict their lives in such a way in pictures drawn for a psychologist then that child would be diagnosed as being autistic.
You can even see the 'genetic markers' to use a phrase from Dune, in Villeneuve's face, the way his upper eye ridges slope down betray that he is on a spectrum of some kind. High functioning Asperger's I am guessing. As such, he is blind to human warmth and actual relationships in movies. Everything in his films, including people, are just objects to be positioned here and there.
And worst of all, he thinks his infantile dialogue and ideas are superior to the source material. A case in point being the juvinile level writing that has Jessica telling Paul that his father 'didn't believe in revenge'. lol what a crock. Leto literally sent an attack team to blow up the Baron's spice stores on Geidi Prime in retaliation for the attempt on Paul's life. He also rebuffed the Baron's overtures and invoked 'kanly' which is basically feud and revenge cycle that goes all the way to the clan DNA.
A year after his first Dune movie, only Dune fans talk about it. Nobody remembers the music apart from the obligatory and ubiquitous 'wailing woman' that goes with every movies that involves some kind of ancient or primitive people since Gladiator came out. The rest of the soundtrack is just garbage. No dialogue, no scenes, nothing. The main cultured chewed that movie for two hours in the cinema like chewing gum and as soon as they left the theatre it lost it's flavour and they spat it out never to think of it again.
Sounds interesting. Very interesting.
I hope the final version will be just as interesting as the script.