hi can you help me..i bought prism tube yesterday...the camera works well but its not recording..i get live pictue on my fone but vid timer reads 00.0000 ..ive not put in a S.D.card yet as its on order...is this the reason why its not recording ??...thanks
thanks for the review and the few tips, I purchased it after watching your review and I am happy with my purchase so far, happy new year and stay safe!!
I'am French, and I've very difficulties to get a french test about the Sena Prism WIFI. Thank's for explenations and your perfect english. I think I will buy this device.
The price of the Sena camera also makes it attractive compared to others. I have been using the original Prism for 9 months with good results. The slider can be tricky. I added an ND filter to mine to reduce over exposure (watch my short video). It is easy to adjust the camera's angle in production if it is not perfect.
My Sena only films in 30fps, which is why I have issues with over exposure. At 60fps it will be much better. The improved video quality may be worth giving it a chance.
Супер презентация! Поздравления! Ползвам Ghost X и изобщо не съм доволен от резолюцията и видеото при движение на мотора. Момчетата тук препоръчват GoPRO но още не съм спечелил от тотото! За мен е важно качеството на видеото а не звука, който се наслагва. Аз смед това обикновенно наслагвам музика. И при тази камера се получава това "замазване" и загуба на фокус в крайщата на екрана или в дадени моменти. Беше полезно! Благодаря ти!
Thank you for this detailed review, Pavlin. Based on your comments and demonstrations, I think that I'd select the Sena for its visual clarity, but I felt that its sound was too distorted. Maybe adjusting the position or volume would help? However, if it's tricky to use when on the road, then I would have second thoughts. Sometimes, 'adequate quality but simple to use' is the better option. Safe roads 👍
I've been using the Tube WiFi for over a year. My observations are. Yes! there are better cameras out there, however quality of footage comes with far higher price. The Tube, (WiFi) unlike the earlier version now records in 1080/60 so image quality is better. The comments about head movement applies to all helmet mounted cameras. If anyone finds it annoying fix it to the bike!. I bought the 'Tube' because I believed it a better option for helmet mounting...it is unobtrusive, doesn't generate as much wind noise as a GoPro type camera either. Buying a less expensive camera than a GoPro then expecting the same performance is ludicrous. It is what it is, performance is consistent with the price one has to pay, indeed the 'Tube' is superior than many other cameras of similar pricing. Regarding the cameras movement whilst switching on/off, I agree with Motorcycle Adventure's comments. Yes! the fix to stop movement is an excellent and unobtrusive 'fix' The stiffness of the switch can be greatly improved by 'squirting' a Very, Very small amount of WD40 in the area, being sure to remove any excess immediately... this will greatly improve the switchability..
Impressive considering the price, and the cylindrical profile has to be the best format, in spite of the quality the go pro is a clumsy helmet camera and a crazy price. Beautiful boots, i know you’ve been after these for a while. I’d better get on and buy that new book of yours to help you pay for them, I know it will be excellent as I loved the first one!
That is one thorough test. An impressive piece of kit and if I was looking to buy your review would help a lot. But. Is there a danger that all this kit is interfering with just riding? We live in a world where we are bombarded with calls , texts, emails alerts etch etc. When I pull my helmet on I cut myself off from all that. It's freedom. I don't even have comms with the good lady on the back. She feels the same too. We take photos but that's it. Or am I just getting old? Happy (peaceful and relaxing) travels
Hey Pavlin .. The other day I watched a video of you with a GoPro on the front of your helmet, Today you are saying you have been using a Contour , which makes sense to me. Smaller more streamlined and compact. NOT a GoPro now you are reviewing a New Sena Camera... I will continue to watch and let you know what I think of your review. ........I listen to everything you say and agree with 90% of your assessment...However you are in Europe and I'm in Canada so much of what you say doesn't really apply here. Nobody is on a bike here now because of "Winter" Although I did ride for two wintersin 75-76 with a sidecar on a big Harley and I am paying for it now with arthritis in my knees. I never thought getting old would come so quickly and last so long.
WOW, greatly detailed review! Sena was one of my choices when upgrading, but it was too expensive for my budget (even second hand one) so I went with GoPro 3 (it's always about compromise). Also Sena could not be mounted where I like the camera to be - on the chin. It has to be mounted on the side, not a big drawback, but I like the chin view better. I really liked the video quality, especially the night shot - Sena performed much better then your old camera. Looking forward to some new footage with your new camera. P.S. As for microphone being too loud, see if you can position it further away from your mouth. I actually stuck mine INSIDE the cheek padding - it is protected from the wind by all the foam around and is completely out of the way and not even visible.
Hey Pavlin, I’m in agreement with most people posting here. I wasn’t very impressed with the Sena and my first concern was knocking the camera out of frame when sliding that barrel. I’m an amateur vloger and have been using the Sony in extreme conditions (Enduro dirt bikes) and it has held up very well (I have 2 of them). As someone here suggested, the remote is good for turning it on and off but is limited to battery time. The audio is much better on the Sony, even better than all the recent GoPros. Take a listen to any of my recent videos on my channel to get an idea. I agree with you and wish there was better functionality turning them on and off.
Great review. I bought the WIFI prism tube a year ago but still haven’t tried to set it up. Maybe after seeing this vid, it’ll motivate me to do it. Thanks and ride safe…subscribed.
I have one, but not used it much yet. The main drawback is that since you have to disconnect the mic/headphone cable to charge it, you can only record audio while the battery lasts. But for the price of a GoPro, you could almost get two of these and recharge one while using the other!
it seems odd to me, like everybody says, that Sena has better quality than Contour, but if you look at side by side video, you can clearly see, that Contour has much better colour representation and makes much more pleasent video. Sena is so much overshatpen, that it puts much strain to the eyes. If you think that when you see edges, that it meas it has more details, then you are not right. Video from Contour could be so sharp too, if you apply sharpenning on it in some video editor, but you can not bring back colours from Sena, because damage to video is already done when it is recorded.
I own 2 of the Sena tube cameras and find the quality quite good, but I do not use for making movies or TH-cam clips so works good just to record a trip for personal use. I found the big bonus was the price, that is why I have 2, one I can use and the other sits in my tank bag on charge. The other bonus is the size of the unit, it is unobtrusive on the side of the helmet and is easy to align by feel alone, just feel the top of the switch is in the middle and the top of the camera is parallel with the ground, once you get used to it it is simple to use. The one big con as you suggested is the switch is a little stiff but it gets better with time and use. All in all it is a good simple camera that does a job for not a lot of money, at the end of the day that is what counts for me, bit like the reason I ride a DR 650 and not a KTM 690, they both get you to where you are going but one is half the price of the other.
Good in depth review .. now seen to many negative reviews on this camera and yours has convinced me NOT to buy it , it´s also overpriced for what it can do and there´s to many issues with it when compared to something like the Ghost Drift X which is also cheaper .. I mean a problem like nothing to stop the camera from rotating once its mounted into the holder should just not be an issue at all ..not to mention no image stabilization
Hello Pavlov, it seems to me that the video quality and microphone of the Sena camera is good and I think it's a good bet for your videos to 2+ contour, but above all you decide, continue your videos, embrace of Portugal.
It really amazes me as none of the big manufacturers have been able to come up with a decent motorcycle/helmet action camera. Maybe someone should work with a knowledgeable guy like Pavlin and own the marketplace. I have been looking for one for ages myself, the go pro just isn't suitable. Someone build a contour style with go pro picture quality for us!!! The nearest I see out there is the Drift ghost X but the picture is not brilliant and there is no remote. The drift 4K was an attempt but everyone appears to have issues with it. We should crowd fund Pavlin to get one produced! Love the videos Pavlin, keep em coming 👍
Definitely better video quality and audio is not bad too at all. I purchased recently an Ion Pro 3 wi-fi camera with external microphone connexion possibility. The on/off button is on the top like your contour camera. I can share a test video if I could record one..
Thanks for the video. Like you i also have the contour, haven't used it in years and lost software for it and now Contour out of business, so I was looking for a replacement to capture some adventure rides on
Fully agree that functionality is king on a motorcycle. Which cam that is available nowadays (2020) is offering best comfort / functionality? (anyone's opinion welcome)
I just bought one last month. It filmes at 2K too. You are right about the tricky slide button, but it is a matter of habbit. T start and to stop, I fix the camera with one or two fingers, and use the other fingers to start and stop. One thing that pisses me off is as you say, the time that it takes to start. It's huge! Another think that is really bad the sound from the interl mic. When you want to see the video, you have to turn off the sound bacause its so loud and so bad. Anyway my friend, if you want a great image like GoPro and have that usability on a helmet, try if not yet, the Garmin Virb Ultra 30.
I use the Sena 30K intercom which is good but not sure about the camera. I do like the voice confirmation because it is hard to know when the camera (gopro or drift) is recording when you cannot see the camera. I have the same boots as you just bought and they are very good but a bit warm and I haven't tried them in any real heat yet. Anyway I hope it works for you Pavlin so you can continue with the fantastic video's.
Thanks. I change my Gopro to a Sony 3000. Start /Stop with one knob, small front and very good quality. I think this helmetcameara here is a good solution, too
I know you said it is not for you but can you do one review for us? A big BMW R1200GS LC 2018 Rallye... the white and blue color... PLEASE? ALSO i think you should move the microphone a bit away from your mouth so the sound does not get distorted when you talk loud.
Why don you try Sony camera with image stabilization? Its not big, have big turn on buttons, mic as accessory, remote control, and produces really nice videos.
Hi, Pavlin! As The Contourplus 2 is quite expensive, there are some alternatives by the US radio communication equipment manufacturer Midland. The model line XTC - 280, 310, 400, 450. All support 1080p at 30 fps and are with a big sliding button on top. The downside is they have no audio input, but there are microphones with micro USB for sale. Those cameras are about 200$. What do you think about it? Can you make a review on it?
I use the Sony x1000v action cam. Using an adapter so I can us the gopro mounts. A little modification to the waterproof casing for plugging in the Mic. I like every thing the Sony x1000v action cam offers, however I do have 1 negative. I just wish the red LED was in front of the camera and not on top so I can see if it's on or off.
If you need to see the light that's mean that you are not sure when it is on. To small button. I know this camera, but I don't think that it will work for me.
@@motorcycleadventures the problem is. When riding I can't hear the camera beep when I press the record button. And some times I'm not sure if iv put enough pressure to turn it on when I press the button. So I'm always 2nd guessing if it's on or off.. But up to now iv not missed a moment when I press the button and the cam has not turned on. But the quality from this camera is awesome. If it was easy, everyone would be doing it :)
Sena is an excellent camera, I have use it for a last 3 years. Microphone is very sensitive and it needs to be put higher up.Sena works true the rain and haven't have a problems with it. I happy that You finally review this camera. sad that You didn't like it ... Im still have my sent ar beck up camera for my gopro7
Hi everyone just I want to ask you if this camera is water resistant or not And if 256GB micro Sd and up are compatible with this camera or not thank you
Hi Pavlin, the video quality is really good, i guess better than the contour, especially in the dark. But the voice quality is not satisfying, it sounds like you had your head in a bucket. Ride safe, Hans
Has anyone used a TomTom Bandit as a helmet camera? They stopped making them a year or so ago, but look like they could be worth checking out secondhand even if they are a bit chunky.
Hi Pavlin, I have the Contour 2+, is very practical , aerodinamic, easy to start and stop, but image quality is not good and I’m looking for voice recording. I found the Sena Prism as alternative, the only thing I’m worried is not possible to change battery. Which is your opinion about it? Do you still have the Sena camera? Thanks!
Thanks for the tip. Was realy looking for a small and easy cam to use. Ofc a GoPro on bike, but this would be great on the helmet..again, great tip thanks Pavlin !:)
Hi pavlin as with my new tv,. it took a little while to get used to it.. as with you senna. It is better pic it's just everybody is too used to very expensive cameras on super tech tv's.... it is much better than contour and sound good I've watched other vloggers whose expensive cameras had very temperamental sound quality...cheers from dave..
I will purchase to use when cycling. I have 3/4 helmit this should enable me for insurance and safety. Thank you for the reviews! P.S. i love fish eye lens all reminds me of skate video of 90's
Can one use two prism camera's on the same app, obviously separately, that way I can put another one on a spare helmet , as at the moment I have a spare cradle but get sick of moving camera's from one helmet to another.
I wish that they would update software so the audio can be switched off because if you dont use the internal mic then the wind noise is very bad .Also i cant get a 64 gb card to work 32 gb ok .But for me i like the style better than having a big go pro stuck on you head .Video quality if find ok for my purposes and i am sure most folks will as well .
Try the mic more on the side instead of in front of the mouth. Also check out the drift ghost cameras, can have external mic and velcro a remote on handlebar, several modes. Sony have good video, not so good mic..
The visual quality is better than the Contour but the audio needs to be better. Maybe a new microphone ... I've seen some others where they place the mic tucked in behind the cheak pad a little, it cuts the wind noise and is clearer sound... Great review and so cool that it's not a paid one. You are one of the few why have integrity.
Still using my gopro 3+, nothing better on the market, good colour and quality. If gopro will make a communication system it could be trash as well. So everyone must do in what they are pros!
Before i used contour 1080p, but it was wrecked after a crash. Thanks for your videos and for many tips, we like to travel on bike and most of your tips are very helpfull. Best wishes to you from Moscow) from Anton and Ekaterina.
I have a question and my question is if you already have a 30 K Sena communication system on your left side of your helmet can you mount that camera on the right side and can they both be hooked up together so that you can hear when the camera come on
Hi Pavlin. Great job. As I can see reading the comments and your replies you will stay with the Contour. Good choice. However the Sena is brighter and having more details, that fish eye effect killed the joy. I really enjoy your videos. I understand your point that you don't like GoPro. I'm just sad that using a GoPro would increase the quality of your videos tremendously. But on the other side use what you like, because in your vids the content is more important than the quality. Check out Smartremote for GoPro. It may change your mind 😉
Quality mean nothing when you don't have the footage. GoPro are terrible for helmet cam, unless you are not plan to shoot 30 min short clip. To use a mic you need big adapter and the audio is not working every time. Remote makes the battery life even shorter. Forget about it.
Hi, Pavlin! Good comparison of the cameras. Definitely there are differences. I honestly will share my view here, hope it will support improvement of your videos. Regarding Sena - personally I don't like the hard switching on the camera and the long waiting until it really starts, fully agree with you about the reasons. The fish-eye effect is some kind of disadvantage, but it is fully acceptable and normal picture for recording on the move. The low light sensitivity of Sena is better, but how many times you will record during the night? This advantage is slighting I think. The bigger disadvantage of Sena camera for me is the luck of video stabilisation! It is better than Contour, but still. When I look your videos, after a period of time the video becomes a bit boring because of the constant moving. At the end it is an action camera and it is supposed to record movement! Which means action cameras definitely should have video stabilisation! My recommendation to you (if you consider GoPro) - there are models with voice command. You don't need to touch anything to switch on and off different modes. In addition to small and compact camera's size, high video quality, video stabilisation and many more. For example I use GoPro Session Hero 5. Ride safe!
Hi Ivo, I have Hero 5. It is great camera to use when you walk around. I tried to have it as a helmet camera, but it is impossible. At least for me. I will stick with the Contour until I find something better, but definitely no GoPro and forget about the voice commands, remote and many other. I need simple, one button camera.
You say you have a hard time knowing that when you slide forward if it accually turns on, but it tells you in the speaker that it's on and recording....... Just saying.
I had Previous model without WiFi, Desing , size and even quality was good enough to record trip in case of accident. But not defenetly good for some presentation. Big Cons is price, life of usage of this camera is seriously tight up with unremovable battery which could be a year. (mine died after 3 months). Another con is that camera can not be charged during recording + previous version was limited by 32G cards.
In no way this is better quality than the contour! also the mic quality is worse (better light, but far worse pixels, looks like nintendo). Outside the building, when you move the head, you can clearly see it reacts very bad on movement. It's not even a comparison. I would still say go for GoPro, connect it directly to your motorcycle (power), and you can use the voice command to turn it on/off, or take pictures. If you want to check if it's recording, you can always look in the mirrors, and see the red dot blinking. Whatever you decide, please don't use this one! But definitely, you need a new camera. Last trip in Asia, there were some amazing sights, but the camera ruined them :( The videos vs. the pictures you showed at the end of the video, is ages different! Pics look breath-taking, while in the video, it's just normal. Best of luck!
Everything you said is coming from the lac of experience you have with filming long trips. Theory is one, but the practice is different. I cannot use GoPro, no way.
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hi can you help me..i bought prism tube yesterday...the camera works well but its not recording..i get live pictue on my fone but vid timer reads 00.0000 ..ive not put in a S.D.card yet as its on order...is this the reason why its not recording ??...thanks
your reviews are most incisive, honest and highlight real life, practical issues. Thanks as always.
I appreciate that!
thanks for the review and the few tips, I purchased it after watching your review and I am happy with my purchase so far, happy new year and stay safe!!
Glad I could help!
I'am French, and I've very difficulties to get a french test about the Sena Prism WIFI. Thank's for explenations and your perfect english. I think I will buy this device.
One of best reviews of a helmet cam ive seen. I have the contour all ready but ill def be trying the sena after this review thanks alot!
You are welcome.
The price of the Sena camera also makes it attractive compared to others. I have been using the original Prism for 9 months with good results. The slider can be tricky. I added an ND filter to mine to reduce over exposure (watch my short video). It is easy to adjust the camera's angle in production if it is not perfect.
Forget about it, I will use my Contour.
My Sena only films in 30fps, which is why I have issues with over exposure. At 60fps it will be much better. The improved video quality may be worth giving it a chance.
Супер презентация! Поздравления! Ползвам Ghost X и изобщо не съм доволен от резолюцията и видеото при движение на мотора. Момчетата тук препоръчват GoPRO но още не съм спечелил от тотото! За мен е важно качеството на видеото а не звука, който се наслагва. Аз смед това обикновенно наслагвам музика. И при тази камера се получава това "замазване" и загуба на фокус в крайщата на екрана или в дадени моменти. Беше полезно! Благодаря ти!
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Thank you for this detailed review, Pavlin. Based on your comments and demonstrations, I think that I'd select the Sena for its visual clarity, but I felt that its sound was too distorted. Maybe adjusting the position or volume would help? However, if it's tricky to use when on the road, then I would have second thoughts. Sometimes, 'adequate quality but simple to use' is the better option.
Safe roads 👍
Agree, that's why I will keep filming with the Contour.
I've been using the Tube WiFi for over a year. My observations are. Yes! there are better cameras out there, however quality of footage comes with far higher price. The Tube, (WiFi) unlike the earlier version now records in 1080/60 so image quality is better. The comments about head movement applies to all helmet mounted cameras. If anyone finds it annoying fix it to the bike!. I bought the 'Tube' because I believed it a better option for helmet mounting...it is unobtrusive, doesn't generate as much wind noise as a GoPro type camera either. Buying a less expensive camera than a GoPro then expecting the same performance is ludicrous. It is what it is, performance is consistent with the price one has to pay, indeed the 'Tube' is superior than many other cameras of similar pricing. Regarding the cameras movement whilst switching on/off, I agree with Motorcycle Adventure's comments. Yes! the fix to stop movement is an excellent and unobtrusive 'fix' The stiffness of the switch can be greatly improved by 'squirting' a Very, Very small amount of WD40 in the area, being sure to remove any excess immediately... this will greatly improve the switchability..
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Impressive considering the price, and the cylindrical profile has to be the best format, in spite of the quality the go pro is a clumsy helmet camera and a crazy price. Beautiful boots, i know you’ve been after these for a while. I’d better get on and buy that new book of yours to help you pay for them, I know it will be excellent as I loved the first one!
Thanks man!
Good honest review! It's definitely functional for the every day rider. Good video, well done and thank you from the UK
Very welcome!
That is one thorough test.
An impressive piece of kit and if I was looking to buy your review would help a lot.
But.
Is there a danger that all this kit is interfering with just riding? We live in a world where we are bombarded with calls , texts, emails alerts etch etc.
When I pull my helmet on I cut myself off from all that. It's freedom. I don't even have comms with the good lady on the back. She feels the same too. We take photos but that's it.
Or am I just getting old?
Happy (peaceful and relaxing) travels
Thanks for taking the time!
Hey Pavlin .. The other day I watched a video of you with a GoPro on the front of your helmet, Today you are saying you have been using a Contour , which makes sense to me. Smaller more streamlined and compact. NOT a GoPro now you are reviewing a New Sena Camera... I will continue to watch and let you know what I think of your review. ........I listen to everything you say and agree with 90% of your assessment...However you are in Europe and I'm in Canada so much of what you say doesn't really apply here. Nobody is on a bike here now because of "Winter" Although I did ride for two wintersin 75-76 with a sidecar on a big Harley and I am paying for it now with arthritis in my knees. I never thought getting old would come so quickly and last so long.
Tnhis video is very old, Bill. I use only GoPro now.
WOW, greatly detailed review! Sena was one of my choices when upgrading, but it was too expensive for my budget (even second hand one) so I went with GoPro 3 (it's always about compromise). Also Sena could not be mounted where I like the camera to be - on the chin. It has to be mounted on the side, not a big drawback, but I like the chin view better.
I really liked the video quality, especially the night shot - Sena performed much better then your old camera. Looking forward to some new footage with your new camera.
P.S. As for microphone being too loud, see if you can position it further away from your mouth. I actually stuck mine INSIDE the cheek padding - it is protected from the wind by all the foam around and is completely out of the way and not even visible.
I am not going to use it. To many cons. I will filming with my trusty Contour
Hey Pavlin,
I’m in agreement with most people posting here. I wasn’t very impressed with the Sena and my first concern was knocking the camera out of frame when sliding that barrel. I’m an amateur vloger and have been using the Sony in extreme conditions (Enduro dirt bikes) and it has held up very well (I have 2 of them). As someone here suggested, the remote is good for turning it on and off but is limited to battery time. The audio is much better on the Sony, even better than all the recent GoPros. Take a listen to any of my recent videos on my channel to get an idea. I agree with you and wish there was better functionality turning them on and off.
I know Sony cameras, but they are not in my list. I will stick with the Contour
I can see this being great for start up into vlogs.
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It has some cons but it is fine.
Great review. I bought the WIFI prism tube a year ago but still haven’t tried to set it up. Maybe after seeing this vid, it’ll motivate me to do it. Thanks and ride safe…subscribed.
Glad it was helpful!
I have one, but not used it much yet. The main drawback is that since you have to disconnect the mic/headphone cable to charge it, you can only record audio while the battery lasts. But for the price of a GoPro, you could almost get two of these and recharge one while using the other!
True
it seems odd to me, like everybody says, that Sena has better quality than Contour, but if you look at side by side video, you can clearly see, that Contour has much better colour representation and makes much more pleasent video. Sena is so much overshatpen, that it puts much strain to the eyes. If you think that when you see edges, that it meas it has more details, then you are not right. Video from Contour could be so sharp too, if you apply sharpenning on it in some video editor, but you can not bring back colours from Sena, because damage to video is already done when it is recorded.
Agree
I own 2 of the Sena tube cameras and find the quality quite good, but I do not use for making movies or TH-cam clips so works good just to record a trip for personal use.
I found the big bonus was the price, that is why I have 2, one I can use and the other sits in my tank bag on charge.
The other bonus is the size of the unit, it is unobtrusive on the side of the helmet and is easy to align by feel alone, just feel the top of the switch is in the middle and the top of the camera is parallel with the ground, once you get used to it it is simple to use.
The one big con as you suggested is the switch is a little stiff but it gets better with time and use.
All in all it is a good simple camera that does a job for not a lot of money, at the end of the day that is what counts for me, bit like the reason I ride a DR 650 and not a KTM 690, they both get you to where you are going but one is half the price of the other.
At this moment I am not going to switch to this camera.
Good in depth review .. now seen to many negative reviews on this camera and yours has convinced me NOT to buy it , it´s also overpriced for what it can do and there´s to many issues with it when compared to something like the Ghost Drift X which is also cheaper .. I mean a problem like nothing to stop the camera from rotating once its mounted into the holder should just not be an issue at all ..not to mention no image stabilization
Agree
Hello Pavlov, it seems to me that the video quality and microphone of the Sena camera is good and I think it's a good bet for your videos to 2+ contour, but above all you decide, continue your videos, embrace of Portugal.
AS I said it has some cons. The quality is better, but I will stick with my Contour.
It really amazes me as none of the big manufacturers have been able to come up with a decent motorcycle/helmet action camera. Maybe someone should work with a knowledgeable guy like Pavlin and own the marketplace. I have been looking for one for ages myself, the go pro just isn't suitable.
Someone build a contour style with go pro picture quality for us!!! The nearest I see out there is the Drift ghost X but the picture is not brilliant and there is no remote. The drift 4K was an attempt but everyone appears to have issues with it. We should crowd fund Pavlin to get one produced!
Love the videos Pavlin, keep em coming 👍
Vdo quality awesome, voice was clear, may be you make better if you do some experiment. Excellent review.
I am not sure that I will change the Contour.
Definitely better video quality and audio is not bad too at all. I purchased recently an Ion Pro 3 wi-fi camera with external microphone connexion possibility. The on/off button is on the top like your contour camera. I can share a test video if I could record one..
Good
Thanks for the video. Like you i also have the contour, haven't used it in years and lost software for it and now Contour out of business, so I was looking for a replacement to capture some adventure rides on
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for this real world review this is on my list of cameras to try.
You are welcome anytime!
Fully agree that functionality is king on a motorcycle. Which cam that is available nowadays (2020) is offering best comfort / functionality? (anyone's opinion welcome)
I just bought one last month. It filmes at 2K too. You are right about the tricky slide button, but it is a matter of habbit. T start and to stop, I fix the camera with one or two fingers, and use the other fingers to start and stop. One thing that pisses me off is as you say, the time that it takes to start. It's huge! Another think that is really bad the sound from the interl mic. When you want to see the video, you have to turn off the sound bacause its so loud and so bad.
Anyway my friend, if you want a great image like GoPro and have that usability on a helmet, try if not yet, the Garmin Virb Ultra 30.
I will stay with my trusty Contour.
Fantastic review, thank you from Northern California!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for review. Did you mount the camera bracket with screws ??? No 3M tape ?
Gracias Pavlin for your honest review
De nada!
congratulations for your new camera !! For me quality is not important... I gonna watch your video in any case !! So keep filming !!
Thanks Sujoy! I will stay with the old camera anyway...
I kind of like it. And a good video depends many times more of the content quality than the camera name, brand etc.
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I use the Sena 30K intercom which is good but not sure about the camera. I do like the voice confirmation because it is hard to know when the camera (gopro or drift) is recording when you cannot see the camera. I have the same boots as you just bought and they are very good but a bit warm and I haven't tried them in any real heat yet. Anyway I hope it works for you Pavlin so you can continue with the fantastic video's.
I will, thanks John!
Thanks. I change my Gopro to a Sony 3000. Start /Stop with one knob, small front and very good quality. I think this helmetcameara here is a good solution, too
Use whatever you like
I know you said it is not for you but can you do one review for us? A big BMW R1200GS LC 2018 Rallye... the white and blue color... PLEASE?
ALSO i think you should move the microphone a bit away from your mouth so the sound does not get distorted when you talk loud.
I already have a review of GS 1200 R, yes it is not rally blue, but... th-cam.com/video/ADlqSxSvj80/w-d-xo.html
Why don you try Sony camera with image stabilization? Its not big, have big turn on buttons, mic as accessory, remote control, and produces really nice videos.
Because of the same reasons. The button is not big enough. The mounts are not what I need and I don't want to use remote.
Hi, Pavlin! As The Contourplus 2 is quite expensive, there are some alternatives by the US radio communication equipment manufacturer Midland. The model line XTC - 280, 310, 400, 450. All support 1080p at 30 fps and are with a big sliding button on top. The downside is they have no audio input, but there are microphones with micro USB for sale. Those cameras are about 200$. What do you think about it? Can you make a review on it?
I know this camera. Lack of mounting points, just one on the bottom. No audio plug. I have no interest.
Thank you for your opinion. The audio jack is not such a big issue I believe, but the lack of mounting points is.
For me the mic is number one. Without it I won't buy it.
I use the Sony x1000v action cam. Using an adapter so I can us the gopro mounts. A little modification to the waterproof casing for plugging in the Mic.
I like every thing the Sony x1000v action cam offers, however I do have 1 negative. I just wish the red LED was in front of the camera and not on top so I can see if it's on or off.
If you need to see the light that's mean that you are not sure when it is on. To small button. I know this camera, but I don't think that it will work for me.
@@motorcycleadventures the problem is. When riding I can't hear the camera beep when I press the record button. And some times I'm not sure if iv put enough pressure to turn it on when I press the button. So I'm always 2nd guessing if it's on or off..
But up to now iv not missed a moment when I press the button and the cam has not turned on.
But the quality from this camera is awesome.
If it was easy, everyone would be doing it :)
I prefer functionality instead of quality, that's why I still keep my Contour.
Perfect, great description, I am off to buy one now 👍
Glad I could help
I use new Sena 10c Pro. Very nice device!
Could be...
Sena 10c pro is worst!
Sena is an excellent camera, I have use it for a last 3 years. Microphone is very sensitive and it needs to be put higher up.Sena works true the rain and haven't have a problems with it. I happy that You finally review this camera. sad that You didn't like it ... Im still have my sent ar beck up camera for my gopro7
Well...I will always prefer functionality instead of quality...
Hi everyone just I want to ask you if this camera is water resistant or not
And if 256GB micro Sd and up are compatible with this camera or not thank you
I'm afraid the quality is not that great. However, It's better than Contour. The decision is yours
I prefer the trusty Contour
Again, thank you for the upload.
Hi Pavlin, the video quality is really good, i guess better than the contour, especially in the dark. But the voice quality is not satisfying, it sounds like you had your head in a bucket. Ride safe, Hans
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Has anyone used a TomTom Bandit as a helmet camera? They stopped making them a year or so ago, but look like they could be worth checking out secondhand even if they are a bit chunky.
Hi Pavlin, I have the Contour 2+, is very practical , aerodinamic, easy to start and stop, but image quality is not good and I’m looking for voice recording. I found the Sena Prism as alternative, the only thing I’m worried is not possible to change battery. Which is your opinion about it? Do you still have the Sena camera? Thanks!
No, I use Gopro now.
Everything looked perfect - until I saw the footage. This there a way to turn off all that processed sharpening?
I will stick with my Contour
Thanks for the tip. Was realy looking for a small and easy cam to use. Ofc a GoPro on bike, but this would be great on the helmet..again, great tip thanks Pavlin !:)
My pleasure!
Hi pavlin as with my new tv,. it took a little while to get used to it.. as with you senna. It is better pic it's just everybody is too used to very expensive cameras on super tech tv's.... it is much better than contour and sound good I've watched other vloggers whose expensive cameras had very temperamental sound quality...cheers from dave..
I will stick with the Contour for now.
I have to agree with a few of the comments... The quality is not great. I prefer the old one. Or even better, a GoPro.
I will stick with the functionality!
Hi just I want to ask about the battery life for how many hours you recording with a full charge
Thank you
Around two hours
I will purchase to use when cycling. I have 3/4 helmit this should enable me for insurance and safety. Thank you for the reviews!
P.S. i love fish eye lens all reminds me of skate video of 90's
Thank you!
Can one use two prism camera's on the same app, obviously separately, that way I can put another one on a spare helmet , as at the moment I have a spare cradle but get sick of moving camera's from one helmet to another.
I wish that they would update software so the audio can be switched off because if you dont use the internal mic then the wind noise is very bad .Also i cant get a 64 gb card to work 32 gb ok .But for me i like the style better than having a big go pro stuck on you head .Video quality if find ok for my purposes and i am sure most folks will as well .
Sena do say 32 GB maximum for this camera.
Sir.
Can we replace Sena Prism tube Wifi battery.If old one get out of order ...?
No.
Try the mic more on the side instead of in front of the mouth. Also check out the drift ghost cameras, can have external mic and velcro a remote on handlebar, several modes.
Sony have good video, not so good mic..
Forget about it, I will use my Contour.
it is better than contour, but can you move the microphone more on the side so the sound isnt more powerful?
Better quality, but not good functionality!
The visual quality is better than the Contour but the audio needs to be better. Maybe a new microphone ... I've seen some others where they place the mic tucked in behind the cheak pad a little, it cuts the wind noise and is clearer sound... Great review and so cool that it's not a paid one. You are one of the few why have integrity.
Forget about it, I will use my Contour
@pavlov have you seen the contour 4K? Perhaps that is a better option?
Seen only pictures. You cannot buy it yet and it hasn't external microphone.
Still using my gopro 3+, nothing better on the market, good colour and quality. If gopro will make a communication system it could be trash as well. So everyone must do in what they are pros!
Agree
Before i used contour 1080p, but it was wrecked after a crash. Thanks for your videos and for many tips, we like to travel on bike and most of your tips are very helpfull. Best wishes to you from Moscow) from Anton and Ekaterina.
Sorry, GoPro is good option, but battery life is not good and camera is bulky..
Gacha Petersons yes i take 2-3 batteries
PsyToxa's Tube
Another good option might be go pro sessions hero 5 or sony hdr 300
Nice but the features dont justify the price. SENA seems to be habitual of overcharging based on their "Brand" name.
Agree
Good and practical approach.
Thanks!
schoeneberg...alte heimat, da wird mein herz ganz schwach. danke fuer die review!
Maybe if there is a different lens you can get for it?
No
I have a question and my question is if you already have a 30 K Sena communication system on your left side of your helmet can you mount that camera on the right side and can they both be hooked up together so that you can hear when the camera come on
No idea
Can you listen to podcasts through the speaker
No
is the 10c pro or evo models any better?
Hi Pavlin. Great job. As I can see reading the comments and your replies you will stay with the Contour. Good choice. However the Sena is brighter and having more details, that fish eye effect killed the joy. I really enjoy your videos. I understand your point that you don't like GoPro. I'm just sad that using a GoPro would increase the quality of your videos tremendously. But on the other side use what you like, because in your vids the content is more important than the quality. Check out Smartremote for GoPro. It may change your mind 😉
Quality mean nothing when you don't have the footage. GoPro are terrible for helmet cam, unless you are not plan to shoot 30 min short clip. To use a mic you need big adapter and the audio is not working every time. Remote makes the battery life even shorter. Forget about it.
Hi, Pavlin!
Good comparison of the cameras. Definitely there are differences. I honestly will share my view here, hope it will support improvement of your videos. Regarding Sena - personally I don't like the hard switching on the camera and the long waiting until it really starts, fully agree with you about the reasons. The fish-eye effect is some kind of disadvantage, but it is fully acceptable and normal picture for recording on the move. The low light sensitivity of Sena is better, but how many times you will record during the night? This advantage is slighting I think. The bigger disadvantage of Sena camera for me is the luck of video stabilisation! It is better than Contour, but still. When I look your videos, after a period of time the video becomes a bit boring because of the constant moving. At the end it is an action camera and it is supposed to record movement! Which means action cameras definitely should have video stabilisation!
My recommendation to you (if you consider GoPro) - there are models with voice command. You don't need to touch anything to switch on and off different modes. In addition to small and compact camera's size, high video quality, video stabilisation and many more. For example I use GoPro Session Hero 5.
Ride safe!
Hi Ivo, I have Hero 5. It is great camera to use when you walk around. I tried to have it as a helmet camera, but it is impossible. At least for me. I will stick with the Contour until I find something better, but definitely no GoPro and forget about the voice commands, remote and many other. I need simple, one button camera.
thank you for the video
You're welcome
Thnank you just what I needed!
You are welcome anytime!
thank you
Welcome!
I have one but it doesn’t have loop recording.
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You say you have a hard time knowing that when you slide forward if it accually turns on, but it tells you in the speaker that it's on and recording....... Just saying.
I had Previous model without WiFi, Desing , size and even quality was good enough to record trip in case of accident. But not defenetly good for some presentation.
Big Cons is price, life of usage of this camera is seriously tight up with unremovable battery which could be a year. (mine died after 3 months).
Another con is that camera can not be charged during recording + previous version was limited by 32G cards.
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Nice video
Sena makes great communication systems but this camera is garbage
Agree
yeah no image stabilisattion
good review brother
Glad you liked it
Can we put external Mic in Contour ?
Only on Contour 2 +
Hi Pavlin, can it record while charging?
No!
why they can not make one with 2 cameras on front and rear sides?
Because them someone will ask for 4 cameras on all sides...
@@motorcycleadventures good idea! like Google car camera. 360 degrees!
Guys, what your thoughts on go pro hero session 5? Just on/off button, video stabilization and 2h battery life?
I have it, great camera, but not for helmet.
Motorcycle Adventures
Why?
Its not big and bulky.
Only downside would be that only small button
are you still using it? if not why not?
I never use it, just test it!
Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Use wd40 on the on/off slider. :-) That make a huge difference on this camera. The mic is working good
Ok
Mine came with an earpiece, wondering what that is for
Okay
I have had one for a while now if you are thinking about buying one then don't there is much beater on the market I have had nothing but trouble
What is your profession
The only problem with Contour is that there is no wifi, difficult to upload to my phone
Is it still good or broken? 🤔
Stopped working a long time ago.
@@motorcycleadventures how did this happen? 🤔
How do you connect to it with no Wi-Fi
You cannot.
In no way this is better quality than the contour! also the mic quality is worse (better light, but far worse pixels, looks like nintendo). Outside the building, when you move the head, you can clearly see it reacts very bad on movement. It's not even a comparison. I would still say go for GoPro, connect it directly to your motorcycle (power), and you can use the voice command to turn it on/off, or take pictures. If you want to check if it's recording, you can always look in the mirrors, and see the red dot blinking.
Whatever you decide, please don't use this one! But definitely, you need a new camera. Last trip in Asia, there were some amazing sights, but the camera ruined them :( The videos vs. the pictures you showed at the end of the video, is ages different! Pics look breath-taking, while in the video, it's just normal.
Best of luck!
Everything you said is coming from the lac of experience you have with filming long trips. Theory is one, but the practice is different. I cannot use GoPro, no way.
GoPro is too heavy and for long distance ride, it's very uncomfortable on the helmet
I like it I'm getting 1.
If you like it.
It needs an update image stablization is a must .I like the size as at least you dont look like a plonker with a go pro stuck on your helmet .
is good enough, size,weight and 1 button recording - is not perfect but on motorcycle helmet much better than large square a'la go pro.
Agree, but with still many cons...
For thr price an excellent camera
thanks for the review, concerning the camera, this camera is horrible
how much it costs and can i get it in Pakistan
Around 180 Euro. I don't know about Pakistan.