Who is waiting for the camera to zoom out and there is some model railroader guy standing there with the control in his hand. Jeez it looks that way, so awesome, so much stuff in the frame!
Amazing video! I enjoyed watching these big boys work as they climbed the grade on Mullian Pass. Thanks so much for taking the time and effort to share with us!
The first couple of times. After that it just becomes work. And then when a train still busts apart and you have to change the knuckles out, you might remember how nice it was to dream of this job but now it's just a job...
Takes one heck of a great crew to pull that one through without ripping the train off the tracks. To those of you that run these passes, my hat is off to you guys.
+Colin King You are right about modeling 1:1. The Skyline trestle a few miles uphill from this one is almost identical and I have plans to model it 1:1 on the Mullan Pass layout I'm building. Unfortunately I don't have space for both trestles.
Very awesome video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beautiful country there....so I guess the 4 "helpers" are just for that certain area? How much grade is there? Thanks for sharing
So what is the % grade overall for the climb? I wonder how that works maybe like a port that has it's own Harbor Pilots that go out and bring in the ship and take them out. Do the MRL Crews take over the control of the whole concert on the way up. Do they make the decisions about placement of the locomotives. All these thoughts and beautiful scenery too! Thank you.
+Nelson Miller The grade for Mullan Pass is 11 miles at a rate of 2.2 to 2.4%. The percentage figure is determined by how much feet the train gains in elevation per mile. For example, lets say a train climbs 1000 feet in elevation for stretch of 10 miles. In this case, that stretch would be considered a 1% ruling grade. The formula to determine the grade goes like this: total change in elevation divided by the distance it took to reach change in elevation (1,000/10=100). You then take the answer to that equation and multiply it by .01 (100x0.01=1). The answer lies the overall grade for that stretch, 1%.
Think they will ever build another railroad and make this two track system? think for a out standing video; the scenery was great on my new 27 inch screen (full screen)
No, farther down the hill they've combined two sidings to make 2MT. And with the downturn in coal business, the MRL has taken a hit. Luckily the grain has been steady.
I would've walked across that bridge while the train is passing by. It looks like there is enough space for a person. Also, why not get rapelling gear and tie a rope to the rail at a random time of day with no idea when any train is coming and then descend down the trestle. It would create an adrenaline rush because what if a train comes and you are eighty feet off the rail and it's going to cut the rope when it goes over it? If James Grider climbs inside one of those airplane fuselages on the train and then the train derails and falls down off the bridge, does it mean James Grider will have survived a train crash or a plane crash, or both at the same time? Anyway, people need to go to Etsy and buy my "Dance of Death" a James Grider novel that defends statutory rape so I can collect money and afford to move out of the desert to a nice area with pine trees like in the video.
All the locomotives are controlled in the cab of the first locomotive by a single engineer. The locomotives in the middle or at the end are linked by radio.
Normally, if a mid-train helper is involved, it's to reduce any uneven drag (pull) from the road engines or buff (push) from the rear end helpers. It doesn't have to be super long, but if the train is heavy enough, as coal trains usually are, the uneven levels of tension in the middle of the train could cause the derail while climbing a grade on a curve. It's common practice in the steep mountain regions. Just take a look at Donner Pass on the UP/ex-SP's Overland Route.
doanster no I’m running a fiat Alice tug boat engine with full inter axel wheel lock deployment and sand spreader. About 47,673 horsepower. Bout 850,000 tracktive drive to dah rail. Can I get a throttle up. Notch seven please let’s puuuuuuuull
If Airbus does this in Europe you are actually stuck to 50 mph 80 kmh and then drop to 35 mph 55 kmh on Double Yellow signal inside Germany Deutsche Bahn Netze and Austria ÖBB Infra under Punktförmige Zugbeeinflussung 90 software speed limits. Closer to the red signal 15 mph 25 km per hour speed limit otherwise emergency braking occurs. Speaking of the train here what is the speed limit for it? Austrian and German heavy freight train PZB U 35 mph under double Yellow signal 50-60 mph max 80-100 kmh max. Closer to the red signal 500hz PZB Magnet 15 mph 25 km per hour
Railroads have phased out cabooses in favor of a device called end of train device or fred (Flashing Rear End Detector). Its function is to monitor the brake pressure throughout the train and to report it to the engineer/conductor at the head of the train. If the train were to accidentally break apart, the fred would tell the head end about it, they would stop and fix the problem.
If the train were to "accidentally break apart" an emergency application of the brakes would occur and the train WOULD come to a complete stop on its own without any intervention from the 'F***ing Rear End Device'! 'FRED' would not have to, "tell the head end about it". Be sure to get your facts straight before responding to questions.
![[65][4k] Montana Rail Link Helpers on Mullan Pass, MRL 3rd Sub, MT 06/17+19/2018 ©mbmars01](/img/n.gif)
Fantastic video and power display. Those SD70ACe`s are beautiful.
Who is waiting for the camera to zoom out and there is some model railroader guy standing there with the control in his hand. Jeez it looks that way, so awesome, so much stuff in the frame!
Amazing video! I enjoyed watching these big boys work as they climbed the grade on Mullian Pass. Thanks so much for taking the time and effort to share with us!
Great filming view point and incredible location. Thanks for sharing.
With the video... quality I guess, it almost looks like a model railroad. Nice shot.
LGTheOneFreeMan I was wondering that myself but the break squeal on the cars was a bit of a dead giveaway it wasn’t
Oh man I made my comment before reading all of them I knew someone had to think this. It looks that way! Amazing!
What a location! Nice! Thanks for posting.
Being the engineer of the helpers would be so fun getting to push and pull different trains all day. That'd be fun as hell
The first couple of times. After that it just becomes work. And then when a train still busts apart and you have to change the knuckles out, you might remember how nice it was to dream of this job but now it's just a job...
Mullan pass has been a favorite of mine. Scott Hiddelston had shot some great videos of this area.
Fantastic video! Looking forward to more thank you 😱😃😃😃
Great shots!
I just left state of montana and i saw some marvellous manifest n coal drags. Im enjoying this fantastic video.
Thanks airing the Outstanding vid.Bliss
That is stunning and I love the 737's and the perspective you shot them at!
It's always neat when I see 737s going through Missoula.
@@charlesbaker7703 the Boeing train is coming from Helena to Missoula? I mean the path.
Takes one heck of a great crew to pull that one through without ripping the train off the tracks. To those of you that run these passes, my hat is off to you guys.
Ibby Lancaster thanks kindly. I have the helpers for that in the middle. Thanks for watching captain and shift commander LaBonte. Chief engineer
Fantastic Sound, wonderful landscape.
Volker from germany
Awesome video and beautiful locations
Excellent video.
Very nice video!
Woooooooo! Espectacular
Linda paisagem e excelente filmagem. Parabéns!
I remember that pass well. In the 1960s I was a brakeman on the Northern Pacific, Rocky Mountain Division, out of Missoula to Helena and back.
Fantastic catches
(from Canada) Nice catches, excellent location, enjoyed the video very much, clear-sharp imaging, thanks for sharing
Excellent video!
Picture perfect. Great job!
Great catches
I'm always looking for interesting flatcar loads. There we go!! :-)
En la curva y sobre el puente, el autor muestra en toda su dimensiòn, los trenes y las cuatro "colaboradoras" azules. Muchas gracias.
Lindo vídeo, boa rampa ai neste local, esforçando ao máximo as locomotivas!!!!Top
Yes love BNSF and MRL Railroad trains in Montana.
Awesome video!
Wow great video
Thank you.
Like some others have said, some of those shots are so surreal that they look like a model railroad.
Looks like the Rail Link's locos are very busy on this route.
On the former Northern Pacific rails.
This is a great perspective you got. It shows a mainline (possibly a branch...?) curve that could be modeled almost 1:1.
+Colin King You are right about modeling 1:1. The Skyline trestle a few miles uphill from this one is almost identical and I have plans to model it 1:1 on the Mullan Pass layout I'm building. Unfortunately I don't have space for both trestles.
Like it! Thank yoy.
Esse é longo. Gostei do vídeo! 🇧🇷
Here is pass in Montana. It's a very long freight trains!
I have never seen dark blue livery locos before, and I have never seen an airplane on a flat bed before. Good work!
Alan Robbie I
why don't you be a jerk, Soaring tractor?
Here in Colorado there are about 30 tunnels between Denver and Glenwood Springs but not a single trestle that I know of . . . too bad!
Is Boeing train passing this route Denver and Glenwood Springs?
This is why I've never had an overwhelming desire to necessarily go overseas. So much in America, let alone just N America, that I haven't seen.
Abandoned railroad property is fascinating and photogenic and inefficient.
good video post
Very awesome video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beautiful country there....so I guess the 4 "helpers" are just for that certain area? How much grade is there? Thanks for sharing
Around 2.2 % Grade, Helpers only used on the mountain "West of Helena"
Thanks my friend...
great location..could butterfly there too! Bob Alberta
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rare catch with the warbonnet bnsf and the 737's
No i just cannot believe what i am seeing, think of the power needed to pull that load.?
Those trains must be pulling a grade to need all those power.
So what is the % grade overall for the climb? I wonder how that works maybe like a port that has it's own Harbor Pilots that go out and bring in the ship and take them out. Do the MRL Crews take over the control of the whole concert on the way up. Do they make the decisions about placement of the locomotives.
All these thoughts and beautiful scenery too! Thank you.
+Nelson Miller The grade for Mullan Pass is 11 miles at a rate of 2.2 to 2.4%. The percentage figure is determined by how much feet the train gains in elevation per mile.
For example, lets say a train climbs 1000 feet in elevation for stretch of 10 miles. In this case, that stretch would be considered a 1% ruling grade. The formula to determine the grade goes like this:
total change in elevation divided by the distance it took to reach change in elevation (1,000/10=100). You then take the answer to that equation and multiply it by .01 (100x0.01=1). The answer lies the overall grade for that stretch, 1%.
+DASCO2136 Thank you ! I was disappointed because here in France we use ‰ instead of %
For a 4‰ grade, you climb 4 meters every 1000 meters long
How busy is it out there exactly train wise?
I played the video at 2x speed! Man, those trains were moving! lol
Must be one steep pass to go over one engine six power units!
Think they will ever build another railroad and make this two track system? think for a out standing video; the scenery was great on my new 27 inch screen (full screen)
No, farther down the hill they've combined two sidings to make 2MT. And with the downturn in coal business, the MRL has taken a hit. Luckily the grain has been steady.
I guess that set of 4 SD70s is on helper duty full-time?
soaringtractor dude your a bitch
Austin it looks that way
Prat
I would've walked across that bridge while the train is passing by. It looks like there is enough space for a person. Also, why not get rapelling gear and tie a rope to the rail at a random time of day with no idea when any train is coming and then descend down the trestle. It would create an adrenaline rush because what if a train comes and you are eighty feet off the rail and it's going to cut the rope when it goes over it? If James Grider climbs inside one of those airplane fuselages on the train and then the train derails and falls down off the bridge, does it mean James Grider will have survived a train crash or a plane crash, or both at the same time? Anyway, people need to go to Etsy and buy my "Dance of Death" a James Grider novel that defends statutory rape so I can collect money and afford to move out of the desert to a nice area with pine trees like in the video.
@@mentallyilldarkjeroid5378 what the actual fuck....are you high? Or just a troll?
A question because I am unfamiliar. Can the rear engines or mid engines be controlled remotely from the lead engine or do they all have to be manned?
They are controlled by the lead locomotive.
Suave video me gusto mas el primero i los demas tambien
It looks like an HO scale train set
How do these locomotives work together, how are they connected to each other and how many engineers does it take to move all these locomotives?
All the locomotives are controlled in the cab of the first locomotive by a single engineer. The locomotives in the middle or at the end are linked by radio.
Mark Rose thanks.
Six locos hauling eighty-three goods wagons; I repeat my question: why such haulage when coupling integrity is compromised?
Normally, if a mid-train helper is involved, it's to reduce any uneven drag (pull) from the road engines or buff (push) from the rear end helpers. It doesn't have to be super long, but if the train is heavy enough, as coal trains usually are, the uneven levels of tension in the middle of the train could cause the derail while climbing a grade on a curve. It's common practice in the steep mountain regions. Just take a look at Donner Pass on the UP/ex-SP's Overland Route.
I wonder if those four helpers are geared for lower speeds?
doanster no I’m running a fiat Alice tug boat engine with full inter axel wheel lock deployment and sand spreader. About 47,673 horsepower. Bout 850,000 tracktive drive to dah rail. Can I get a throttle up. Notch seven please let’s puuuuuuuull
I thought I saw a bigfoot.....
12:56 What is the shed shaped car following the fuselages called? I've never seen one before.
They're Aircraft Cars, carries vertical stabilizers, wings, other parts of aircrafts.
@@Trains232 Thanks for responding. 👍
I'm no railway expert but I think those cars are for hauling automobiles not coal.
Obviously you didn't watch the video
Was there a tunnel at this location that has been “day-lighted”?
Im only aware of one tunnel at Mullan (Summit), the tunnel is over 3,000 feet long.
What train simulator is it? Very realistic
train sim 2023
If Airbus does this in Europe you are actually stuck to 50 mph 80 kmh and then drop to 35 mph 55 kmh on Double Yellow signal inside Germany Deutsche Bahn Netze and Austria ÖBB Infra under Punktförmige Zugbeeinflussung 90 software speed limits. Closer to the red signal 15 mph 25 km per hour speed limit otherwise emergency braking occurs. Speaking of the train here what is the speed limit for it? Austrian and German heavy freight train PZB U 35 mph under double Yellow signal 50-60 mph max 80-100 kmh max. Closer to the red signal 500hz PZB Magnet 15 mph 25 km per hour
What is the highest percentage of Mullan Pass ramp?
Five percent grade
Are you on private property???
No time to make a new bridge?????
are there cars in those carriages or do they just drag em around to make it look good great vids
The first train is carrying cars. That's why the carriages it has are called autoracks.
11:42 😃😉
The thumbnail is at 12:26...
Does the MRL Have any GEVOS?
No, only EMD power. Anything from SW1500's all the way to SD70ACe's.
..... Where is the caboose?
Railroads have phased out cabooses in favor of a device called end of train device or fred (Flashing Rear End Detector). Its function is to monitor the brake pressure throughout the train and to report it to the engineer/conductor at the head of the train. If the train were to accidentally break apart, the fred would tell the head end about it, they would stop and fix the problem.
If the train were to "accidentally break apart" an emergency application of the brakes would occur and the train WOULD come to a complete stop on its own without any intervention from the 'F***ing Rear End Device'! 'FRED' would not have to, "tell the head end about it". Be sure to get your facts straight before responding to questions.
Bob Johnson bwuahahahah your are a tough guy arnt ya
MrZ they quit using cabooses back in the 80s
why on the brakes so hard
у нас такой мост на БАМе объехали тоннелем и строят 2-й, а тут показывают, как-будто -- это круто! пхаха, загнивающий запад!
NO WIND NO SMOKE ITS A MODAL
Zfat
TO MUCH OF A MODEL TRAIN IN IT
Wut