Xbox Fans FURIOUS With Controversial Game Pass U-Turn
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I see this as an absolute win. They make people hate the game pass the game passs dies then they sell games like normal. I am fucking sick of subscription models popping up fucking everywhere sell me a product not access.
*When a company says they won't do something, then do it shortly after you can't trust anything else they say.*
I remember a content creator said straight after the Xbox showcase the price would go up. They had so many games on day one release that it wouldn't financially viable
Don’t be furious people. Cancel. If you bitch and moan online but they keep making money they learn nothing.
Why would you cancel when the changes don’t affect current subscribers?
@@theheardtheorem what? The cost of GP won't go up for members who have been subscribed to GP in the past?
@@theheardtheorem and we're going to continue receiving day-1 titles for the same cost?
Did you cancel PlayStation plus when they spiked the price by like what 50%
We can cancel and still be mad.
They spend billions of dollars buying a company. Making the rest of us pay for it. Xbox doesn’t have one game that I’m dying to play day one and that’s their fault.
Yup
That’s the big issue, I am getting so tired of being super excited for games and than they underdeliver-Starfield, Hellblade or just fucking suck-redfall. I have had more fun with games like cocoon and Scorn instead of their first party
That's how consolidation works😂
I'm a die-hard Microsoft fanboy. Have all the consoles merchandise Etc. I fight Sony boys for Xbox. . For the last 3 months I've been on PS5 😂 I don't actually see that changing anytime soon. I'm the guy that they want and they can't convince me right now to stay on Game Pass that's a problem for them @@WauwautosaTufGuy
Don’t subscribe you ain’t gotta pay for anything
This is a real shame, I still remember when subscription services were the answer, not the problem
I personally thought they were never an answer, just another thing to monetize and a way to access games. As good as a deal it is I do not like my games locked behind a subscription.
@@ImproperStandbylet's be real. This isn't a new phenomenon. You could see this one coming a mile away.
@@Shoelessjoe78 it was obvious from the start, any big corpo will ruin things
Lol subscription always sucks besides when they initially introduce it to get people on it.
It was never the answer just new. GP got introduced right when Netflix started having it's own issues. And the issue is the same for all streaming services. Market saturation. Eventually everyone that wants the thing has the thing and you gotta stop expecting it to grow. MS keeps expecting it to grow despite people not realizing Gamers are still a minority. Then having to slice the gamer pie into Xbox gamers, and then Xbox gamers that wanna buy/Keep Gamepass
"Buy company, let gamers pay for it"
~ Phil Spencer
Oh, would you look at that? FOMO as a strategy to get consumers to spend more money. Who didn’t see that coming…
I just buy my games. If I can't afford it I just wait for a big enough sale.
That’s the smart way to go about it imo.
@@juancarlosalonso5664 Thanks
I love GamePass, however I’m not prepared to pay extra just because Microsoft paid a fortune for a franchise I haven’t played in years. Will probably cancel now.
I’m definitely going to consider dropping from the ultimate tier I currently pay for.
Price changes are for NEW SUBSCRIBERS! Current subscribers are grandfathered in
do it. dont support leeches companies. buy physical games.
Maybe you’re paying extra not because of the acquisition but because literally everything is going up in price, particularly anything using a SaaS model.
In this economy? Lol its just getting cancelled.
It was always going to be this way... Get people in with low entry fees then jack up the price when you get them hooked into your eco system.
Except the price stays the same for current subscribers.
Bro 20 dollars a month is so stupid and absurd in today's climate. Game companies are starting to become more and more anti consumer bro. It's like they actually hate their fan bases and customers.
It's been that way for decades you just started noticing it now. Those of us who have been looking at this since the 16 bit era just seeing it progress every few years. The real problem started with pre-order bonuses, but not many people complained. Then they started putting in microtransactions, not enough people complained. Then season passes, but not enough people complained. Then they started doubling up and tripling up, but not enough people complained. As long as people keep buying, they will keep trying to milk you for all the cash they can.
Look at what happened to fast food ... It got to a point where you were paying $12-$16 for what would have been considered a value meal a few years ago. Then fast food places started to see low income consumers not buying, all of a sudden every fast food place can afford to offer a five-dollar value meal ...$1.50 any size drinks ... What happened? Consumers stopped buying. It needs to come to that point with gaming, and apparently, we haven't reached that critical turning point yet.
20 dollars a month is $240 a year. How many games do you buy a year? If you buy 4 you're actually saving money. Your perception of value is twisted.
I get your point but is a bussiness not charity they need to make money somehow your free to unsub if the price bothers you
@@fp8575 in 2023 i spent about 170 usd for games. One full price title and like 20 games in sales. This steam summer sale i bough 4 games for less then 15 bucks (2 games for under 2 dollar and 2 games for around 5 dollar
@@fp8575value is subjective, it’s over $20 a month where I live and not one of their single 1st party IP has me going “oh wow I need to play that yesterday!”
On the flip side I could spend $240 on 4 games all year and get more play out of them than I could with a year long subscription to GamePass.
I think what's crazy is game pass standard is more expensive than pc game pass with less features
Let Xbox executives find out about that and it won’t be. However I don’t think they can afford to do that thanks to Steam & Epic Games
Of course it is they know they already got Xbox users.
it's not crazy. They are abondoning Xbox. They want you on a PC.
@@Bman32x You think Xbox exceutives don't know GP PC is cheaper than GP Standard with more features?
The way I see it, for $20 a month, I could be buying 1 or 2 used games that I would then have forever and never need to pay another dime for. After the first year, I'd almost certainly have a backlog started. No worries about future price hikes or changing lineups, and I'd actually own something. I can see how game subscriptions could make sense for more casual gamers who don't want to clutter their home with...well, games...but I've never been a fan of perpetual renting something while knowing if I ever stop paying, I'll have absolutely nothing to show for my investment.
Exactly this. Shooting themselves in the foot by screwing up what was a safe, steady guaranteed revenue stream bc they’re greedy. It’s much easier to get rid of your Xbox & just go to PS5 & PC.
You say casual yet as someone who has gamepass i play far more games than before. And thanks to gameshare 2 people get gamepass for the price of 1
@@Bman32x fair warning, play station plus has been doing this same thing for a while.
I agree. At the end of the generation some people are going to be surprised by how much money they’ve spent without owning any games.
Except that it's too late. Because now that everything is digital, you don't actually own anything. Something could be delisted and not available for download at any time. Unless you're still buying physical games, which the majority of Xbox releases are no longer physical discs. Really the only place to still own your games is on Nintendo's platform.
240 a year for Ultimate is too much
Premium Netflix is $2.50 more, chill
What!? Xbox making controversal bad decisions. What a shocker.
Been on gamepass for quite some time, wondering whether it was worth the cost...
(i have played several games i never would have played without it, so there is good points to it as well)
Think i'm out now.
If you're only playing one game a month off it, it's not worth it. I can go through 2 or 3 so it's worth for me. Especially because I get to play a bunch of indie games without running the risk of a $20-$30 piece of crap in my library
The changes only effect new subscribers, not current subscribers despite what the purveyors of outrage would lead you to believe
@theheardtheorem I'm not a new subscriber and my next price was (before I canceled) was 17.99
Had GamePass and now I don't....
Ok.
Bye
Hellblade, Redfall, and Starfield... fool me once, shame on you. Fool me again, shame on me.
I'll pass on gamepass for now.
Watching this on my Xbox. Managed to cancel gamepass before the video ended. Noice. 🖕 for lying to the customer base Microsoft.
Most Xbox stories make me glad I’ve always been a PlayStation gamer instead.
Xbox という名前は、ゲーム史上最も有害な名前です。
It's almost like releasing $60-$70 games through GamePass on launch day with $15 subscription service wasn't profitable enough. Dang, who could have seen this coming?
They needed the subscription numbers to make it viable and now it sounds like they're never going to get them if they carry on like this.
@@CoreyKahaThey needed constant subscriber growth, and that hasn’t happened.
@@martinjrgensen8234 Maybe not, but if you compare it with the Sony alternative there's a vast ocean of difference. There are millions more GP subscribers than what Sony has for their "access". Whether that will continue to be, I don't know.
Much will depend on the overall quality of games coming to Xbox in the coming months.
As soon as I heard about it, especially big releases like COD, I saw it coming. Either that, or they were going to back out of the day one releases on the service. But as much as they were hyping it up, I was leaning toward the price increase.
@@over9000optimally Everybody knows that bills only tend to go up, but £5 more in 2 years is immoral. Just check your bill history, in 2022 if you were on ultimate, you was paying £10.99. Come September this year you will be paying £15.99. At what point do you walk? [At what point do I?]
If they keep on raising the prices eventually they will see a mass exodus in their subscription numbers, and the financial blow will be greater than what they spent on buying expensive companies.
Been subscribed for years - just cancelled. Day one for $10/month was the WHOLE POINT.
Dude! You were grandfathered in! Price increase was for new subscribers only! But, since you went with the outrage bait thumbnail and became a drama queen about and cancelled , NOW you would be subject to the new pricing and tiers 😂😂😂😂
@@theheardtheoremThis is not the truth
@theheardtheorem this applied on all users, be it new or existing
I already canceled as someone who couldn't care less for cod . I am not gonna pay more for them spending money on it . Putting the cost to me is a big no .
I really feel like the activision acquisition was a bad move that was waaaaay too pricey. They get all this ip but lay off a workforce of already existing studios due to a predicted "recession"
Sony laid off staff and closed studios too but no journalist talked about it did they? It's only when Microsoft does it its a problem.
@spankrocketgaming294 for me, it's more of a matter of scale and struggling brand identity. We've had few successes and uncertainties with a lot of flagship franchises like Halo and gears over the past few years
Was costly for sure. The idea for sure was COD to be *console exclusive* while charging a premium to still allow Sony to have it release on their console. They’re patching a sinking submarine with bubble gum at this point.
It's why the FTC wanted to step in. In the end, only Microsoft won in those acquisitions...because they now OWN all those big IPs they can make all the money from....and with the original devs now gone, they don't have to give any of that money to them. Microsoft has 100% ownership over all those IPs....that's why they went to buy these studios. This is what everybody was concerned about....and everybody was right to do so.
In the larger scheme of things...ALL AAA Publishers and platforms do this. They buy up smaller studios when they see hit games (so they then OWN those IPs)...then close those studios while keeping ownership of said IPs. The AAA Publishers promise to support them....only to shut them down, and there's nothing the devs can do after signing that deal. In the grand scheme...it's about taking ownership of hit IPs (because God forbid these smaller studios make bigger hits than these AAA publishers), and eliminating smaller competition.......which is the NORM under Capitalism in the US. Huge Corpos owning 90% of everything...and it's not enough.
The developers of Ori has stated they will not sell their studio to a AAA Publisher...and when the Hi-Fi Rush devs got shut down, they used that as an explanation as to WHY they'll never sell to a huge AAA Publisher. (Very good reason not to, actually. You sell your studio...a month later...it's closed and you're out of a job...and may have to create a NEW studio....if you even can because the AAA publisher now own ALL assets, even the money that studio made.)
All those influencers ate good during the ABK hype 😮…real gamers knew what was going to happen…gamepass $5 increase in 1 year lol…they aint done either …xbox is trash 🗑️
The only game I honestly cared for on the game pass came to ps5 last month. Really nothing there for me to give a care for now.
Thanks
I've was downgrading from Ultimate to Core
I'll be getting rid of my Series X and getting the PS5 'pro'? when it releases later this year
The PC version of game pass is the only tier worth buying anymore but a decent gaming PC that will put the games to use will cost you more than a Series X PS5 and a Switch combined.
Remember the good old days, five years ago, when companies would try to compete by lowering prices?
Xbox wonders why they're supposedly not making any more money on game pass. Are they trying to kill game pass?
And this is why i hate streaming services. First they hook you in with a great deal , then they split the service up , you want add free, you want 4k, you want latest games, movies etc. Then lets eradicate disc and solid copies so all you have is our service, now lets split that into brands and companies . Now you paying 400 a year for all your streaming services. You cant use them all at once so straight away your wasting money. And your paying way more than just buying a product. But then they hike the price of the product to force you to stream as that seams a better deal . And repeat .
Releasing AAA games day one on Game Pass is like releasing an Avenger movie on Disney+ on release day, no way to charge individuals for admissions
Maybe they now realise that GamePass is unsustainable.
It'd be more sustainable if they didn't throw half the damn marketplace on it
A business built on constant growth to work is just folly
Right lol in 2020 you could tell them it wasn't but all of a sudden they want to back track and say it never was
@@khub5660so just have people spend 60-70 dollars on a game every time? Whats sustainable is what gamepass is doing. Whats not sustainable is Sony not delivering anything this year.
@@Jadmoniuswhat does this have to do with Sony? And yes they did lol. The biggest game of the year so far is a Sony game: Helldivers 2
Why is ewen there, he proudly dosnt even have an Xbox?
I love how I get charged more every 3 months
I have like 5 years of backlog on PC between Epic free games, Amazon monthly games, Steam and GOG sales, I spend way less than an annual fee of gamepass subscription. I'm definetely not the target for any games subscription service.
Yep. I said for me this year is the year of the backlog. This just solidified that...
Same
Expect this consumer behavior: Pay the monthly $9.99 and play whatever hotness is available at the time for a month and then peace out. Though I think said behavior is already a thing. Many did take advantage of that one dollar entry fee for a bit.
It’s what I do when a day 1 game comes that I wanna play I pay the month finish it than don’t resub til the next game comes and so on so paying $20 to play a day 1 game better than paying 70
GP doesn't have $240 worth of games i'd even consider playing.
Microsoft is gonna pull a Sega soon, I fear.
No they won't. How can a trillion dollar company just go under? Sega was stupid with thier poor decisions, thats why they exited. Microsoft are smart. But I guess paying 80 euro for PlayStation exclusives is fine. You do you
You are stuck in the past, Sony Pony
They’ve been trying to get out of the hardware market for a while. Series X wasn’t a guarantee and had Nintendo actually played ball, their plan was to help them with more powerful hardware for the switch while offering GamePass for their cloud gaming.
@Bman32x everyone knew Nintendo wouldn't collaborate without costing an arm, leg, first-born child for 3 generations, and half of your company. If you wanna talk about a greedy corporation, Nintendo is the one
Zune, zune pass, windows phone, mixer…and soon to be Xbox console 😮….and they gave Phil awards smh
Nobody from Xbox or Microsoft ever said no more day one releases for GP users. " GP Ultimate users still gets Day 1 releases." It's GP core users that doesn't. Also nobody from Xbox or Microsoft said we're raising GP prices and giving you less.
In the end a subscription services are not sustainable for anyone the consumer or devs/publishers or in any median for that matter, buy your games, music and films physically, you own it then plus with games you can cash in a couple weeks later if your done and you get like 30-40 percent of the what the game was at full price back.
Also if you think how much money we waste on subscriptions services
£11 - Disney plus
£18 - Netflix
£11 -Apple Music
£9 - Amazon prime/video
£15 - Xbox game pass
Thats 64 quid a month or 768 pounds a year, for me thats 50/60% of my monthly pay check going for subscriptions for the year plus you may have more subscriptions
what’s crazy is at the time i still play middle earth shadow or war and i own the game i bought it on years ago and now they’re saying i no longer own the game or atleast “that version” of the game and want me to buy the bundle version i found this out maybe last month or so
Ewan brings up a good point because everybody tries to be optimistic about CoD fans wanting to spend less for CoD... The price of a Game Pass subscription... Instead of the $70+ each year. However, the majority of console players are on PlayStation, and most casual CoD players don't own both consoles. So, there is an additional barrier to entry if they want to take advantage of the "cheaper" Game Pass deal, and that barrier is $500, for the Series X (competitive CoD players would prefer X over the S, for optimal performance). On top of this, if you do the math like Ewan said, the Game Pass option becomes * more * over time if players have to keep subscribing to access CoD vs. Just paying the one-time $70 fee and owning it in perpetuity.
Weir,d, I don't see your video on the last PS Plus price hike.
“Play it day one with Xbox game pass”….. oh wait
U kno u can still play it day one right? Don't let that title lie to u smh all they doing is adding a tier that doesn't have day one. You can still play day one with a ultimate sub
Play it Day 1* with GamePass!
*Some conditions apply, see fine print for details.
And all the elitists said they were back on form....well raising prices and firing hundreds of people certainly is on form for Xbox
I can't really think of any game besides Starfield that I played on Game Pass except for Forza for an afternoon and a few smaller indies here and there. It is getting easier and easier to justify dropping to the lowest tier or canceling it altogether.
Do people still think games are free on gamepass?
Ah the good ol' business strat of "Get em hooked then jack up the price with confusion".
Simple fact is, Gamepass has been losing Microsoft money as they had hoped to sell more consoles and have their entire user base paying for it. Then add in how much they have spent on Zenimax and Activision and something had to give.
The comical thing is, Gamepass subscribers have always laughed at PS+ yet MS are now essentially using exactly the same format for Gamepass, with the only exception being AAA day one games in the ultimate tier rather than the day one indy titles that Sony think are a great benefit.
The whole industry is busting at the seams ready to explode due to the amount they are spending vs the amount they are making. A good example is FF7 rebirth. That game made a lot of money, and 10 years ago it would be considered a massive success. But due to the amount spent on development, those sales are no longer impressive.
This move by MS should have been seen coming when they started porting exclusive games to other systems.
Oh and on a side note, EA Play even upped their subscription fee and they barely even have any games on there for consoles, and don't offer the premium tier for console like they do on PC. I have subbed for a few years now on PS4 and PS5, and it was always £20 a year which is reasonable even if you only get one game a year out of it, but now when my sub ends I will not be renewing as it has gone up to £36 a year. That is £4 short of doubling the price.
$240 a year for gamepass defeats the purpose. As a PC player thats more than just buying every game im interested in at full cost.
New games arent finished untill months after release, dont think i'll be missing much really. $14 a month? Less than I spent at blockbuster. That was in before times money too.
I just so happen to have to renew my Xbox Gold Standard by this Saturday in order to keep my service. I don't play games Day 1 so I don't really want Ultimate, just so long as I can get the game I want eventually. I imagine come September I'll have to pay the new going rate but we'll see
They dont want you buying too far in advance, that way when they hike the price again later on (and they will) you cant be grandfathered in at the old price
The best time to buy games is when there's a discount or a sale. fortunately I don't have FOMO. 🤔
I've never actually played a COD game. The marketing, youtube clips and general release and monetization of the franchise has always put me off of the series. This change in game pass now puts me off of it as well.
So I can now buy 3 months of access to games if I want to play that one game or that one game on Steam into my library for the same price??
I am not surprised if the streaming wars was anything to go by
I got gamepass ultimate free as part of a deal, so this won't impact me till next year. Also, I don't feel like the streaming is quite there yet, particularly for more demanding games, and that's using high-speed fibre optic broadband. I still prefer a console for more stability
It doesn’t effect current subscribers so you don’t need to worry about it unless you unsubscribe
in other words, convert all Xbox console players to pc got it. XD
It's greed. I only wanna play online
I think game pass would have done a lot better to just left the price alone until call of duty release because a lot of people was going to sign up to try it out instead of buying it and there's a chance they would just remain a game pass subscriber but now when I'm hearing is everyone's just going to pay the 70 bucks and forget about game pass. It's just something about seeing on your banking or credit card statement of a price over $20 which game pass will be with tax it's not going to end well for gamepass subscriptions
Vote with your wallet.
up next will be an ad tier for $12 with a price hike on everything else
Xbox live on the 360 was revolutionary and influended the PSN on PS4
Gamepass conversely, seems to have some hiccups
Ewans point is well raised. If you are a casual gamer, getting it outright is 4 months of gamepass and you keep that game forever. You're losing money in the long run if you decide to swap to xbox for it and existing PS and steam users who are casual gamers wont make that switch anyway
Haha, the video game industry. What a joke. Remember just playing your little Gameboy in the back of your rents car? Look at video games now.😂 Got to get that next COD lol it's the same game for like 20 years 😂 stop paying their shitty prices people!
What are the odds Playstation and Xbox would give me reasons to cancel their services within a month or so of each other. I guess I am going all in on PC
So, 2000 up front, and anywhere between 300 to 500 in annual bills? Does that sound "good" to you?
Here's the 619 if you think I'm talking out my rear end. The AVERAGE cost of a regular gaming rig, the amount you can expect to pay for average to average-high graphics, without numerous additional graphical settings [such as ray tracing and stuff] is 2000. Most PC gamer's however, will spend a good 1000 more than that, and the ELITE gamer's who want the very best graphics, are likely to spend 5000+ for a gaming rig. Add to that annual PC bills that, depending on what you deem viable, can range anywhere between 300 to 500, as well as periodically having to UPGRADE your hardware, because WHO wan't to get left behind? All for what? A rig that will burn out on you in 4 years or so anyway, meaning, you have to spend another 2000+ and probably a LOT more, on a new one?
Or, you can spend 400 to 500 on a console, and somewhere between 80 to 200 or so on a yearly subscription, on a console that with a bit of luck "should" last you until the next console generation rolls around. [Usually anywhere from 7 to 12 years]
YOUR CHOICE!
@@RequiemsloveI’ll never understand people when they say they’re going to PC to avoid paying for online. It’s like, you’re paying anywhere between 3-5x what your console is worth on a rig. Meanwhile, cost of console and a sub to play online will take years to catch up to the cost of building a high end PC.
@@eh-ronlocke7164 Exactly. I used to game on a PC but mine wasn't gaming spec. It could handle well enough "medium" graphical settings for the MMO I used to play a lot. [Lotro] but that was about it. I tried a few other games and it didn't go well. And the price of annual bills related to my PC were quite high to say the least. Anti-virus alone cost me 70+ a year. [and that wasn't the only software I was shelling out for]
I couldn't afford really to buy upgrades or just get a standard gaming spec rig, whereas current generation consoles can go for sub £350 if your willing to go second hand. [Which is £200 less than the general purpose PC I bought nearly a decade and a half ago, and is now a brick, in my bedroom]
Where's the family plan in the US????
There is none. That's the way in the US...and even though we "have a choice" in the US...we actually don't, because in order to do or watch anything, you have to subscribe to everything. That's what happens when Huge Corpos own 90% of all companies and services in the US.
I hope I'm not alone in this, but if the only reason to stick to Ultimate is day one games, im dropping down to the middle tier. Like Scott said, there isn't enough day ones available
Ngl, still insane value. Everyone always used to complain it was never sustainable at the previous rate. Here's your answer: They've just copied Sony's three tier model.
Consumers need to be confident that there will be 2.5 games on gamepass each 12 month period to mitigate against paying for content you didn't particularly want.
It should be a reasonable thing to expect over a year, but Microsoft's recent form suggests you might just be better off buying games as and when.
People can do maths ms. We are not as silly as you think.
I think the tier system is reasonable change. I always thought day one releases were dumb on their part.
i dont know what xbox fans are shock about this was bound to happen
Yea I just used reward points to renew 3 months of Gamepass Ultimate.
Not sure why anyone is surprised every subscription is tiering there services. Gamepass is worth the ultimate price
Gamepass ultimate still has the day one feature
$20 is the top end of what im willing to spend for Ultimate, so if/when they bump it again, ill have to reassess if its worth it
It SHOULD be console, PC, Ultimate.
Simple and straightforward. Day one on everything. If they have to raise the prices then whatever. But it's very straightforward
Cancelled mine months ago, wasn't worth the money I was getting out of it. Probably spent more time waiting for games to download as well as large updates to download. After a long day of work and life I don't want to wait several hours to play. I play on my Nintendo Switch nowadays. Small game sizes and smaller updates = less wait time on downloads and more time to play games.
I'm glad i jumped ship and moved 100% PC. The value and options 😅
Yea I am a game pass ultimate person now and I debating cancelling it now, I don’t see the back catalogue of older generation games and the new stuff tends to be more indie games which aren’t usually my thing, you don’t get one new game every 3 months (which I don’t know that is happening) what’s the point? And I don’t know how but it makes me wonder how they will find new ways to monetize call of duty going forward. Also are they going to drop older cod games on game pass?
Re: the stacking thing. They are only capping the “Game Pass for Console” tier at 13 months. This is clear if you read either the Windows Central article or the Xbox Blog post. Disappointed that a journalistic outlet such as What Culture is spreading disinformation.
I think the real upset is the u-turn on day one drops. And god only knows why they removed a standard tier in the past only to add a new one now. The price hike for Ultimate sucks, but was expected. What I would like to know is will ultimate still be worth it come October? If the new "standard" tier functionally has a similar number of games only without day 1 GP drops, a lot of people will probably shift to it. Because ultimate's price will increase by 3 bob... the only way then that Ultimate will be viable going forward, is if it has enough over "standard" beyond retaining day 1 drops, to warrant the price hike?
this all makes me so glad to be a PC gamer.
I still believe that 20 a month for day one games and a massive back catalog is ultimately a "good" deal at the end of the day, but its definitely not a great one, and is on track to stray farther and farther from that. Their first party games are really going to have to deliver this year, not just COD, but all of them or they can expect a massive wave of people unsubscribing from the service.
Exclusives on Game Pass day one was the stupidest decision they made involving the subscription service, it deincentives actually buying the games, especially when they never take them off of game pass
Interesting conversation, however, as a die hard GP user i still find this much more financially acceptable then charging 69.99 for every single game (in EUR). I feel like this channel and most people when talking about Xbox always keep bringing up just Xbox exclusives and day one releases... i get it, that's the main point why buy an Xbox. However, i can guarantee everyone, it's not just about that. Out of nowhere, this year, i've got Far Cry 6, Control, Resi 2 and 3 remakes, Immortals of Aveum, Evil West, Lords of the Fallen, SW Survivor and many more games, basically for free. So far this year i payed for GP around a 100 EUR, but played games worth 4-5 times that
I don’t really get why this is such a big issue. I think the current setup makes perfect sense.
HELP!! Can you pay for the $20 tier for one month to play a new game and then cancel it? Can this be done over and over again just so we can play the new releases and not pay the $70 price tag?
I’ll probably switch to standard or cancel it. I kept it since my son liked to try different games but hasn’t been doing it lately. I use it every once in a while now.
Canceled.
Not arguing with them or about this anymore.
READY PLAYER ONE CALLED IT.. but we didn't get a cool game with multiple crossovers at a decent rate and no multi leveled subs
Tragedy, imagine an alternate time line where games crashed and we were stuck at Playstation 1 and only introduced to internet level games for longer, like say till 2012 and ONLY then we get the ps2, meanwhile comics and toys blow up and were having more fun with RC cars and outdoor activities and minimalls thrive, while the "biggest" level video games got... was mobile games getting way bigger and we don't get esports and TH-cam and social media of instead of let's plays and streams... we get actual entertainment and cross culture of action movies with models and on-site competitions like marbles and Card games with Galaga and Pacman in arcades... and arcades actually still are around cause kids go out
Honest. This was on us, where honestly, it's what our grandparents complained about, we did ruin our lives with video games by ruining video games blizzard best example, they were the nerdiest knock off companies because they couldn't come up with their own so they used Warhammer IP with Warcraft, starcraft and diablo.. but within 5 years of TH-cam streams and let's plays and no one liking mainline cod games, wow blew up and post pandaria, only then started going down because they were listening to streamers only demanding "casual" classes and it ruined us for the worst
Too much money
I knew something like that would happen. That's why I never got it. I am fine with paying full price for some (singleplayer) game and be able to play it 5 or 10 years later. Most games I buy on gog sales or steam sales. And ps4/5 games I buy used on disc.
Am I happy about the price increase? No. However, I constantly utilize cloud gaming. It works surprisingly well. I don't own a series but I can still play current gen games using the cloud. $15 was nice, but $20 isn't the worst. It's well worth it if you're utilizing the Gamepass Ultimate features consistently. The bigger issue is this current trend of streaming services in general increasing their monthly rates.
everyone knew the price was not sustainable I think offering different tiers allows everyone to a choice most people will just pay the increase anyway
Xbox fans thought they were immune to online subscriptions like this being changed, or having a price increase. Now look at them.
Playstation players are like "first time?" Lol