The Rise and Fall of the QSMP
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- The Rise and Fall of the QSMP. Quackity's big project QSMP had a meteoric rise to success but with people like Forever, Wilbur Soot and the admin situation all happening within a very short time frame of eachother it was hard to keep the ship afloat.
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Some small things that I think are worth adding into this: First, while Quackity and Dream's planned servers seemed similar when they were announced, things got really rabid between the fanbases when they both demo'd live translation within a day of each other. The timing was close enough to make it seem like one of them had gained leaked info from the other in order to steal the idea... but we don't know which! Second, the identity of the "real" head of the QSMP remains a closely guarded secret, which added a lot of concern when blame for all administrative issues were heaped on them and they were fired... to be replaced by equally secretive new management. For all we know, there may have never been any changes in leadership at all. And lastly, one of the huge hardships faced by the QSMP staff was that they were repeatedly ghosted by management. This was most notable during several months when the eggs disappeared from the server without their actors knowing if they would ever return, and in the last few months of the project when most of the staff were left uncontacted about whether they'd ever be paid or allowed to continue working with the QSMP.
I always thought the timing being close was due to the spanish minecraft squid games being so fun that they both participated in. So I wasnt surprised that they both wanted to do a server that made it easier to communicate with other languages
@@yupinaahonestly its an obvious next step after the DSMP started inviting more and more new and obscure MC creators. For people to say that these international SMPs are unique unparalleled ideas and should be treated as such is thus funny to me lol.
The whole thing with the "real" head of the QSMP also had a nasty undertone to it because some people believed it to be Quackity's brother, who was outed as having groomed someone a long time ago (Quackity's brother was suspected of being in the QSMP main server and the thought of him being now the one in leadership snowballed from there)
Edit: Most people don't even know Quackity has a brother, because when he was outed as having groomed someone Quackity didn't say a word (I'm no one to judge if he had to or needed to say something I'm just saying what people thought at the time), and the guy silently left the QSMP server on his own after some time
@@caleharriet8147 quackitty and by extension his toxic community seem more to blame tbh.
@@Shane_111 both sides tbh. With how tommy and others ostracized dream, it is slightly obvious that quackity has been talking about it for awhile. BUT the fact that everyone went full ballistic without the consideration of co-existence or actually making the SMP work compared to if Dream worked on it kinda says a lot lmao.
Ego does things. If you want to prove yourself to be better than others without the necessary capability to do it, it will fail. But if you also just take inspiration or copy other ideas without talking about it with them, you will lose your foundations.
So yeah. Still, it sucks for dream that he has to lose his entire friendships coz of this, only for QSMP to be a failure lmao.
I said before on reddit coming from a dream fan i think the main reason the qsmp failed is cause quackity decided to make it into a company/brand unlike the dsmp which was just youtubers working since it was made into a company quackity had to deal with workers problems without a good hr and no previous experience in managing something
That’s actually a really good point never even thought about it that way but you’re 100% right the DSMP was just the creators goofin and it was awesome
@@DeadPixelTwo We've seen how turning an SMP into a brand ruins it before with the MindCrack SMP, which was the first ever truly huge SMP on Minecraft that was totally destroyed by the fact that the owner commercialized the SMP
and the, yk. sex offenders.
@@delta6704 oh yeah probably
I loved the qsmp. But when your main pov leaves the sever you really loose interest. A lot of the biggest creators of the qsmp left before it even started to noticeably go down hill. Like DanTDM and JaidenAnimations who were the biggest English CCs on the server
What ever happened to Philza on the server, I never got into the QSMP but it seemed that he enjoyed it
@painkiller9310 i loved watching phil play cuz i love him
oh he kept playing, it just went downhill after Forever left
@@painkiller9310 Philza kept playing for a long time, even up to the last few weeks.
Well technically Dan left in the first month and the server still had a massive fan base without him. I think the issue mainly started in November when many creators needed to take a break from the server after purgatory and then in January when Forever was exposed and kicked off, everything went more downhill and then Wilbur got kicked and Jaiden announced she was leaving and then the whole admin thing happened… as someone who was a large fan of the server since May 2023 and has followed most of the events, I can only confirm that we as a fandom did kinda start feeling a negative change with fewer creators in November after Purgatory, and everything else kinda just added to our worries until the admin situation in March made us realize we’re screwed .-.
Brazilian and French community felt this downfall way earlier, The xenophobia in the qsmp fandom was evident and never took the serious conversation and knowledge it deserved, specially from quackity (whom should have been the first one to protect the people begging for his help). Very sad seeing this project die but im glad to not see my country suffering hate like it did when it was alive.
What xenophobia happen in the community? i was never that active in the community
Genuine question: what was Quackity supposed to do to “protect” them?
@zigzagintrusion literally address the issue? Say exactly what was going wrong and shame the people doing it. His response to it was vague and shallow.
@@luizaribeiro16 I feel like it’s kind of apparent at this point that people aren’t going to stop being d-bags just because their favorite creator said to stop lol
@@zigzagintrusion but what was stopping him from even trying them?
Actually, it was not surprising they both had the idea at the same time. Both participated in SquidCraft 2 which brought together communities from different parts of the world. Language communication was brought to the forefront by Dream and Quackity bc of this event. Dream's best friend won the event and Quackity was friends with most creators there and Spanish and English. So it was not surprising both came up with similar ideas. Dream leaked snippets for months too.
quackitys idea was from like 2022 already tho for him it wasn’t from squidcraft
One thing I realized watching videos like this about qsmp is that no one talks about what happened to the Brazilian and French community, Both communities suffer so much racism and xenophobia coming mainly from the Quackity community
what happen??
It’s insane that people in the comments are blaming a whistleblower for bringing to light the illegal activity happening within the company.
I don’t think they are blaming her. I think they are saying it’s weird that she told the streamers not to bring it up for her to then do it on twitter
@@DeadPixelTwo Probably out of fear of retaliation, and when the retaliation happened anyway they had no reason to stay quiet and changed their mind about speaking out
It's not weird if thought about from her perspective
Also months ago when Lea came out about everything she said she didn't know the CCs were planning on talking to Quackity and thought they were pretending nothing was wrong so honestly on the CCs for not keeping her informed about their actions either
@@DeadPixelTwo restless thought summed everything up pretty well but I would also like to point out that AyePierre has an incentive to protect the company and the project as his sponsorships relied on him playing on that server. That being said, it doesn’t change what Quackity Studios did and you as company don’t get to “handle things in private” when you are in violation of French labor laws and California labor laws. Especially since Quackity has a history of shady business practices.
I’ve seen someone blame the French union as well. Don’t get why they’re trying to defend someone who obviously isn’t a good boss but to each their own I guess.
@@ColaLoserwhats the history of shady business practices?
i really appreciate that the tone of this video is calm and informative rather than dramatic/inflammatory. you conveyed a lot of the complicated issues (especially with the admin/employee struggles) in way that's easy to digest. it's a solid summary of the events of the past year. despite the bad things that happened along the way, so much love was put into the qsmp and i'm really going to miss it. i hope lots of people get this video recommended to them!
Thank you! 🫡
Loved it and hated it.
Glad it happened
Sad it ended
Thank you for all the happiness this server has gave me
Such a good concept, I hope we get something like this again soon but that actually works out
this server succeeded because of the myriad of writers, coders, modders, modellers, artists, designers, editors, volunteers and the content creators themselves, quackity is just the figure head of a company, he is the poster child of the work of LOTS of people, PLEASE remember that. He either knowingly let the managment become a soulless control self jerk of wannabe corporate overlords or he just didnt gaf enough to check in on the managment or the workers. "passion project" my ass bruh
He willingly let other people actually handle the management power instead of taking more control himself
So he turned into the gambler version of himself
@xSkysilver its kinda funny when life imitates art, isn't it?
In any case, it feels like Quackity got too ambitious and for that reason, QSMP died. Upper and lower management is a serious concern that he should've handled, at least in large part, by himself.
this is a good point
@averagegenzguy2751 he was too ambiguous and trusting depsite not having worked on a project like this before. Had he knew he could trust them to do the responsibilities he gave them, sure things could have ran smoothly but nope
I loved Qsmp and I’m sad it ended, but I do think there’s a super slim chance it comes back. All the official Qsmp Twitter accounts are white, and say “soon.” And there was a 2 in the end scene thing. But even if it’s not, I never would have heard of Etoiles the goat without Qsmp so I don’t think it was a complete failure.
True
The idea of q smp is honestly great and the only big issue was how it was managed, another smp like it that maybe translates every language in the world could be the next big smp
I also worked for quackity as a translator for youtube videos on his spanish channel before he dumped the entire translator team after he got big in the latam community 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 (i got paid 30 dollars per video, 15-22 minutes, 2 days straight for a little bit over the minimun wage in mexico for working a full time job) and we only got 2 o 1 video per month
omg that's terrible??
@@Gillion_x3he didn’t acknowledge the translator team behind his Spanish channel, we were unknown to him and we weren’t allowed to put ourselves in the credits for each video translated. We got no credit, no recognition and we barely got money
@@cheesecakedefresa7769 that's actually horrible i'm so sorry that happened to you
Quackity's poor business practices are becoming more and more apparent. Can you provide more evidence? Huge accusation and would be another major blow
sorry that you have to go through those, translation is hard and yet you are getting paid low.
I loved the QSMP.....however Q's community and his lack of ANY response at the beginning to Dream really left a bad taste in my mouth. Badboyhalo really kept it alive for months at the end and I hope they can solve the labor issues and bring it back for those who want to participate. There were so many amazing moments and interactions that would never have occurred without this server
What made it impossible for me to feel sorry for Quackity is the fact that he's studying to be a lawler. He has to knows about work ethics and laws. Or even just know he should hire ppl that know about those things and make sure everything is doing okay and ppl rights are met. You can't start a dream project with so much ambition and not think of the actual management of all. He can't do like the DSMP because it was mostly friends having fun during the pandemic and then it started to have lore and getting more popular. Also when everyone (Dream and his friends included) were getting harassed and even doxxed, they all asked and even beg everywhere for Quackity to ask his fans to stop. Obvisouly you can't fully control a community but everytime I saw content creators talking to their community about those things it mostly calmed down. But his silence was just accepting all of this which is definitely not what we want from a large and adored content creator
I left the qsmp livestreamers back in October cause It started to be too much to keep up with, I didn't think it'd go downhill this way tho.
Yea there was so much happening, If i missed a few days I had to go watch recaps or something to catch up to know what was going on
I only watched 1 of them so it was easy for me lmao
@@OfficialEdwardNewgate the thing is that I used to be in the Philza community and his streams were ones I frequently watched in the background while working or doing stuff but around end of October I just stopped watching most streamers especially him mostly from too much stuff happening irl and secondly things started being too dramatic so I just left the minecraft streamer community as a watcher.
@@shibun_the_bun7i used to watch wilbur’s streams before the whole incident and switched to philza when i figured out wilbur wouldn’t be streaming on the qsmp anymore, i hated watching philza because i constantly got second hand embarrassment and he would just be straight up rude to his viewers on stream. he would consistently tell them “fuck off” or something rude on stream, not in a joking matter, when they weren’t even being rude or anything like that
@@aL-lo9cp I see what you mean, usually it used to be streams in the background for me but I started noticing that he truly was rude but put it aside to just him being in control of his chat, later on tho it became too noticeable and by the end of October last year I just left and never watched him since and tbh I'm glad I stopped.
clicked on this video and watched the whole thing before realizing how small of a creator you are. this video is really well produced and is honestly has a pretty refreshing formula for videos like these. you definitely deserve more attention for this.
Appreciate it! 🙏
while it was running, qsmp was always a part of my days. I loved the streams and the events and I loved the languages and how fun they were, i loved the interactions. Sometimes it got a little too much with the events (i didn't really manage to keep up) and when it finally died down i was sad, but let's be honest, no server could have survived those allegations.
Agreed
i was a fan of the dreamsmp, but never paid attention to much mcyt content after that; i had no idea the qsmp was so much more complex than just content creators playing on a minecraft server. while the ideas for the server seemed exciting and interesting, i think a big reason it didn’t last long is because it turned into a corporation/administration which can fall apart really quickly if not managed properly as shown with the qsmp. not to compare the servers as i never watched the qsmp, but i think a big reason the dsmp lasted so long and was successful was because it was just content creators playing minecraft and adding lore every now and then which held a lot of charm for its viewers. of course, it had its downfall as well and fell apart just as the qsmp did.
i think the vision was good, the multilingual component especially; but i unfortunately think quackity bit more than he could chew with making such strict storyline rules and gameplay which is again, a reason why the dsmp also fell. history seems to repeat itself sometimes!
great video btw! was very informative for someone who never really got into the qsmp themselves :)
I didn’t know a single thing about this situation and just clicked on it because it showed up in my recommended. I gotta say, the context you gave was really great and helped me keep up with what was going on fantastically
I didn't even know that Quackity made an SMP 💀
What?
man i loved the qsmp and im so sad it ended :( all the creators i watched stopped playing very often like jaiden and slimecicle and i was very sad when the eggs left
this was extremely informative, I haven't watched minecraft content for a few months now and was shocked and confused when I came back and saw many things on fire
thanks again!
Thanks for checking it out!
The fact this only has 600 views is crazy. I assumed it had half a million before I actually checked the numbers. You're a really talented video editor and story teller, keep it up!!
Thank you! 🙏
never heard about the forever stuff since i stopped watching qsmp in late 2023, thanks for this
Thanks for checking it out! 🙏
First off I want to say that I think this is an amazing video both in quality and tone and I was genuinely surprised to see it was from such a small channel. As someone who watched the qsmp from the beginning up until it’s end, it was so unfortunate to see it’s run cut short by the buildup of poor management and allegations. I genuinely hope that another season is possible or that a similar project could be introduced with the main goal of connecting communities around the globe.
Honestly I stopped watching quackity around 2019 as it felt he was going too mainstream which isn’t always a bad thing imo but his old videos were fun to watch not cause of the raids but cause it was him and a group of friends messing around in random games. His SMP world just gives me sadness as you could tell he was excited about this project but the problem is that he made a whole company surrounding it which always confused me since I always thought SMP were more about having fun with one another but it felt more corporate and it’s not surprising that it died as Quackity has never had any experience of managing a company
Honestly a well made video. Nice job summarizing the whole QSMP drama
Thank you!
I loved to watch Quackity. So sad it all stopped.
Absolutely a less serious point than the stuff mentioned in this video, but I think another bad point against QSMP was the forced storylines. And clearly heavily inspired storylines from DSMP.
Unlike the previous server were friends just roleplayed and see what happened, creating great moments, Quackity was intent on making these moments happen. The eggs thing was a complete grab at the attention Michael got. It was cute characters for the fans to gush over and then go raving mad when their favourites died. I remember the conversations when the eggs were revealed of people dreading it would turn into another Michael thing. It even partly did as Philza was refusing to go on the server if his egg died. While he probably meant it as a joke, the fans using it as threats did not. At least Michael wasn't an actual person that could be abused.
I also feel the QSMP was just over modded. I LOVE the start of minecraft worlds, seeing people get resources, deciding over where to put their house, hunting for stuff they need/want. In QSMP they were already given everything. Overpowered weapons and items on day one. Gliders to get around faster. The fast travel points is a nice touch and saves them from having to use the nether, but the others just took the fun out of it.
If you follow Quackity's career on youtube and social media you'll see how often he drops friend groups and how quickly he puts himself into a new one. When he out grows them (or thinks he has) he just drops people and moves on. Not surprising when he was put into a place of power and had to actually hold himself responsible, it crumbles. It just sucks that the first big multi-language minecraft server which he was so proud to boast about leaves this legacy behind.
Another issue with the lore was the fact that Quackity himself kept on making lore decisions without telling the people writing the lore, forcing them to rewrite things over and over and over again. Plus, that time he made them rewrite the entire prison event the day before the event started.
Also, it gets worse when you realize that there were originally going to be two multilingual servers before Dream got harassed, along with a ton of other things he and his family had to go through, to the point where he cancelled his project. All because Quackity Stans got angry that Dream had a similar idea to Quackity. It’s not like Quackity’s complete silence on the situation, despite Dream attempting to contact him multiple times, and the internet’s villainizing of Dream helped the situation either.
I was extremely sad when i saw all the news about the qsmp and when it ended.
I just hope that Quackity will be able to gain the people's trust again and maybe make some more projects in the future.
Yea it was unfortunate for sure
Do you think it could have survived if Quackity kept it running?
Idk if it was ever fixable considering the huge communication issues and stuff, but if they had more clearly taken a break and talked to the egg admins about what they thought needed to be changed (the admins were a large part of why people were watching) and THEN slowly started back up it might have been able to regain momentum and survive
this isn’t the first time he’s exploited workers, so honestly no. i’m gonna rant here a bit but i saw 3 instances on twitter during the beginning of the qsmp about how quackity had exploited workers in the past. from what i remember a few of his editors / volunteers / builders for his “discord’s got talent” series expressed scarily similar work complaints to the qsmp workers, i also saw one of his “planet duck” workers (his dsmp lore merch company) come forward when the qsmp admins did saying they didn’t have a great time with him either in terms of communication and there’s A LOT of info and proof out there about how the company that produces his planet duck merch (fivehills) likely use slave labour to create the products and i believe he is very closely related to this company / planet duck is the only company that’s listed to be produced by fivehills or something but i might be misremembering that so don’t quote me on it
i just don’t think Quackity should run a company of any kind / have any workers if this is seemingly a reoccurring issue for YEARS. you can find proof and statements of the stuff i’ve talked about with some searching on twitter but it sucks seeing people excuse what happened with the qsmp workers as quackity “not knowing” when there’s multiple instances of this happening with him? i used to love quackity but ever since he brushed off so much doxxing / stalking / other crimes caused by his fans and general hate crimes at the start of this servers life i haven’t been able to watch him without feeling super uncomfortable. i love how unbiased you were with this video, it’s rare to see people actually defend / sympathise dream as well in this situation
He doesn't know how to control his own community, so imagine him trying to deal with all the qsmp communities at the same time as they were already stressed with him for the way he dealt with xenophobia and racism coming from his community
The eye island bit was really the nail in the coffin wasn't it?
Nothing really happened story wise and I feel like they tried to force a Narrative without actually following threw on the narrative.
Narrative? Qsmp wasn't really stagged but the island lore did make sense. Its just that the admins forgot about it after the prison event
@@eonvizy even before then they never told us why the nether was banned. Also eggs never hatching was lame. And if an egg died the islanders would just get a new one so it never really felt like there was any risk to anything.
And when there was engaging story and Etwal faced the code monsters the admins cheated to win. There was no story just wasted time.
@@lockskelington314 yeah beacuse eitole wasn't meant to win that battle the *narrative was that codes are un defeatable* also eitole's sheild and sword was also too op which was cheating (he got it un ligit by the admins). The nether was banned by the federation beacuse the islanders could escape but they *have been in the nether for about 4 times* also in forever's lore streams. It seems like evil cucuroucho lived in a nether and that would explain the black concrete which was in the neather. The eggs weren't meant to hatch it was suppose to be a 2 week demo but the islanders already loved them and they thought it was okay. If you watched the finale stream there cucuroucho told them that the eggs were made by the federation to *slay* (🗡) the islanders and wdym there wasn't a risk all the eggs had its own personality and if they died you couldn't see them again. Exept that day of the dead event which was also meant to honor the eggs and *technoblade* :)
Quackity leaving the QSMP administration was pretty much the death of the server and company.
I watched a couple of streams, but was never too big a QSMP fan. It stopped showing up and I didn’t realize it was cause of all THIS- amazing video!!
I also want to add.... Aypierre confirmed that he wanted to report all these problems to Quackity, Lea knew the meeting was going to take place, but she still went on twitter and not only misrepresented the information, she also sold it. She manipulated other admins, saying she would support them if they gave her their version of the circumstances and more information, but they felt terrible afterwards, as Lea had negatively manipulated the information they had given her, apart from the fact that evidence came out that she was removed from the project for breaking the rules, something her fellow admins also did, among those things, contacting cc's outside of rp. As for Quackity, obviously he is held responsible for not knowing about it, but that's just it. He trusted the senior admins, his mistake was delegating work to the wrong people, as they not only stole money from him, but damaged his project. He thought the administrators were being paid, but that money was being stolen. The real fault was not Quackity's, it was those nasty admins who stole and treated others badly, and Lea, who wanted her 5 minutes of fame, to take it out on the project, unleash unbridled hatred, and cause Q's doxing.
Quackity didn’t pay the people he was supposed to pay and fired others for no reason. He’s still much more in the wrong than Lea, especially since Quackity had a crap ton of time to fix the issues and never did. He just left the server to die.
@@treehouseoffun1242 It is clear that you did not understand anything nor were you aware of the information at the time. Quackity was obviously the face of the project, but he had a team that managed the server, including the payments of the administrators. These payments were not being made correctly as the managers were stealing the money intended for that. Quackity thought he was paying them all, that the volunteer status was temporary and that they were already being paid. You don't have to be a detective to deduce that he wasn't directly in charge of the payments, he delegated that job to the wrong people. He didn't fire anyone directly, no one claimed that, I read all the admin documents (unlike you, apparently). After the situation arose and the money was stolen, he could not maintain the server economically, they had to do without the work of several people. All that time he was telling us what he could, as this had become a legal problem, and therefore could not say much in stream. Some cc's like Aypierre and Philza spoke directly about the issue and how they saw changes being made internally (as they always should have been). I don't know what people expected to be shown, it's not a situation that can be handled properly while exposing it on twitter, it could even be dangerous, just look at Quackity's doxxing. Closing the server was a good decision due to the circumstances. Hopefully, it can be reopened in the future when everyone has calmed down, had time to handle the internal problems, and better structured its operation.
@@hazel1779 He was supposed to pay them anyways. He still never actually paid them nor even fixed the issue legally seeing as he never contacted the French union. I know he didn’t know they weren’t being payed initially, that isn’t his fault though it was a bit negligent of him I can’t fully fault him in that, but he didn’t pay them afterwards either. He is the reason the server died because he never genuinely fixed the issue.
@@treehouseoffun1242 Whether they were paid later or are going to be paid is not known to you or me, especially if there is a legal situation. Remember that there were no contracts, and although they should have been paid, most of them were in voluntary status, without a defined amount of salary, the only ones that did have paid jobs from the beginning, they were paid. That was already confirmed in the documents they uploaded on twitter. The volunteers, not confirmed, but I assume not, as most of them did not expect pay. The French union also confirmed that they did not contact Q, they only made threats on twitter, but never contacted Q, and when the controversy happened, they kept quiet about it. To me it seemed very false, they did nothing, despite saying they would do something about it. Q probably didn't even hear about them. I would also like to comment, that as much as you wanted it to be fixed in two months, realistically it takes much longer, but you wanted it all fixed within a week, when it could take months, they are probably still in the legal situation. You have been pushing a situation that you literally do not know how it works, it is ridiculous.
@@hazel1779The French union wasn’t supposed to contact Quackity. If he wanted the server fixed, he needed to contact them, which he never did as confirmed by the French union.
The French volunteers are supposed to be paid, that’s just Quackity being neglectful again. Learn the laws of a country if you’re going to work with people from that country, that’s how you don’t get into legal issues.
And Quackity could’ve put the server on hiatus until the legal issues were over, not fire the eggs for no real reason and then abruptly end it. And if he’s working on it legally, why hasn’t he made a statement about it? It’s not like someone can use, “I’m dealing with the issues legally” in court.
Bro is gonna be the NEXT commentary youtuber fr
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I'm a little late to this video but as a fan of Dream and Quackity at that time I never understood why they couldn't coexist with each other if they both had proof that it was just a funny coincidence and also something that bothered me at that time was that the qsmp was more lore based and the usmp was,, like the og dsmp. Also I remember talking to my friends about how Spreen didn't want to enter the server until the eggs were gone because he doesn't like to roleplay as much and then Dream revealing that Spreen was one of the ytubers he wanted to invite and just thinking "he would have loved to be on both and now he is in neither"
As an argentinian Dream and Quackity fan the moments before people started attacking Dream were some of the best of my life because a lot of my childhoods youtubers were interacting with my (then) current hyperfixations. I wish it stayed that wholesome
Dream said they could coexist and praised the Qsmp in every single statement he’s made about it. Unfortunately, Quackity stans couldn’t handle the thought that two people had the same idea, which isn’t even the case since Quackity’s server was originally bilingual not multilingual, so they essentially threatened to kill the guy and his family, among multiple other threats they made and things they did, until he cancelled the project. It’s sad people just couldn’t handle Dream, basically, just existing.
qsmp is a project quackity has had in plan for years, he literally says in the stream that one of his life purposes was to break the language barrier and unite cultures together. What is "USMP" to dream? The white privileged male with no connection to poc struggles. and the audacity to ask why Dream should just be able to take that away from him
@@Misteine language and cultural barriers aren't a "poc struggle" lmfao, antiwhites are such weirdos
It’s all very sad. I took a break from QSMP just before the Forever scandal bc I got busy and came back to it in shambles 😭😭 Quackity was probably one of my fave Minecraft ccs from my DSMP days so seeing all this happen I was soo disappointed. The concept was exactly what I was longing for and it’s a shame that mismanagement and a couple wolves in sheep’s clothing ruined it
There were more issues than mismanagement and bad apples. Particularly, Quackity’s brother and Quackity’s absolutely horrible treatment of the Usmp vs Qsmp drama.
I’m someone who was a fan from the start and Let me say, It was crazy experience. When the first drama hit (That I knew of) Aka the forever drama, I was beyond shocked and upset. Forever was such a funny guy and I still miss his interactions with the players but after all i’ve heard about him, Its just crazy. I’ve had a few problems too, which other fans could agree, Purgatory. I have a LOT of negative feedback and emotions about the fan base when the purgatory arc came, everyone was toxic, death threats appeared, people kept attacking the streamers for PLAYING THE GAME???, literally the toxicity of it all was so bad I had to take breaks from looking at twitter and everyones twitch chat (I was a soul fire fan), and the administration team being toxic and horrid to their volunteers/staff, now I can’t say I don’t blame quackity a little for how poorly he managed everything in the background, but I can’t say i dont feel pity for the guy. Despite it all, I still like qsmp it had helped me deal with some stuff and even with my negative experience with it I still like it. (Sorry if I used poor punctuation and wording, I’m too tired to reread it and fix it)
god seeing the forever defenders around really bothered me.
so glad you never brought up cellbit having to out himself around that time, it was bound to die.
so glad it happened tho, love seeing the chaotic energy the bolas crew has in other games, learning about etoilles and cellbit, the eggs and seeing their admins interact now
great vid, keep up the good work dude
I hope you know the Dream SMP was supposed to stay up after Technos sad unexpected passing. But they could think of a story without techno. If you look jt up tommy niki dream and George and Phil coukdnt think of how to write techno off which led to the down fall of the server and dream just opened the server a few days ago for everyone to go into it for techno death
Honestly i was just there for the content creators. In my opinion, i dont think that the management had any right to make calls as big as they did, and most of the authority figures should have gone to Quackity for approval. Now this does not disclose what happened under quackity, and either way the minecraft community is very VERY toxic, people just need to stop taking everything so literally. These are real people, and they have lives outside of these characters you see them play. I see this a lot with streamers like Jschlatt and such, where people cant find the line between creators and real people, and they end up canceled for things that they did as a character or roleplay. Its sadness me so much to see how bad the community really is, and i do know that there are plently of people that are awesomr and there are a lot of very nice people in our community, but in general its a lot of old dream smp stabs, and a lot of quackity stans that are very toxic. I used to watch dream a lot more but ive just distanced myself from that side of minecraft because of how toxic all the people are. They say stuff like "if youre a quackity stan then dni" or the oposing aide does the same, like be for real, they are both human trying to do what they like. I dont care too much but all i know is that the silly minecraft server really did bring so many people together from so many different languages, and as connor said "quackity did what nost presidents couldnt" and thats bringing thise people together.
Quackity Stans, and just stans in general, are horrible. If you want a specific situation, Quackity Stans harassed dream and his family in multiple different ways like straight up harassment, stalking, swatting, sending death threats to them, putting trackers on their cars, threatening to hire an assassin to assassinate dream, attempting to call and harass dream’s grandmother, and sending r@pe threats to dream’s underaged sister. I get why people wouldn’t want to interact with Stans of any fandom.
it never cease me to amaze how much problems and controversies a game about mining blocks has. is not only with the english community, the hispanic minecraft community, where im from, may not be as huge as the english, byt oh boy it has a looooot of drama. its like minecarft can get the best but also the worst of people xD
Did you seriously just steal someones video
This is literally the same video as Yourscenebean’s.
Same title, same points, and scenebeans video was uploaded like a month before yours
Shameful behavior. Dislike.
Really good vid! I was there at the start of the server but quickly lost track of things because, well, life. And then suddenly I heard about some controversies connected with members of the server but it was weirdly hard to find any info without looking into specific communities. It's really good to have all this info here, you did an amazing job!
Thank you! 🫡
im glad qsmp happend. amazing memories!
I did not notice this channel had only 79 subs, you are so underrated! This was such a great video!
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The quality of this video is so good! I didn’t bother checking the views, subscribers, or likes when I was watching the video so I thought you were a big time content creator only to find out you are not. Great work! Hopefully the algorithm gets to this video
Thank you so much! 🙏
This is truly a por que no los dos moment
oh. i never thought someone would adress all of the issues of this series on this way, at least for what i've seen. thank you, finally. me personally, i have enjoyed the first six months of it, until the 'bad apples' of the community managed to scare away two content creators who i was the most excited to see. since that moment everything related to the serie became bittersweet and i started to fall behind with lore-related stuff until i stopped watching it completely. i'm from the hispanic community and the low activity of hispanic ccs on the series by then didn't help me to reconnect with it either. nonetheless the way things ended were really a sad panorama, this project was all meant to be big, by bringing korean streamers you could see how ambitious was. and being ambitious is not a bad thing at all
things could been really good but seeing these troubles and controversies anyone could tell it was hard to bounce back. it is good it ended before things turned even more sick and twisted
This was a great video. I think a bit of more info on the Dream and Quackity drama might have been needed (to explain why those on Quackity’s side (other than the creeps doxxing or harassing Dream and his fans) felt the way they did). But other than that small note, and a slight discrepancy behind Wilbur’s role in Lovejoy (yes he is a guitarist for the band, but also the frontman, lead singer and songwriter. Not an important note, just a minor thing I noticed). Overall, really well-researched and excellent delivery. Keep up the great work
I wish qsmp ended a different way.. i never got to see the rest of slimecicles lore and till this day im still disappointed that i never got to see it 😔😔🙁
First time hearing about quackity in ages, also ur underrated
Thank you 🫡
I never enjoyed the concept. The idea was great, but the cast was erhm... I dunno. Wanted to watch it for Philza, but I couldn't do it. I feel SMPs only work if it's an organic group of friends. Or slowly introducing a new person one by one.
Yeah quackities lucky they got along as the did, but the fact people dropped it at before month 1 was over ...was a early sign of things to come.
saw this on my recommended and watched the video
very underrated my guy
here's a sub, comment, and like
Thank you for the support 🫡
100 subs???? holy shit man you deserve a lot more than that. great vid!
this video is actually really well made
Thank you! 🙏
The warning signs were there from the beginning with how everything about the server seemed made up on a whim and constantly changing, and how Quackity barely played with his excuse being "I'm too busy behind the scenes" when evidently he was not lol, so the exploration really isn't that shocking in hindsight. I am kind of surprised that pretty much no one who met on QSMP seems to interact anymore, I guess you really can't trust cc friendships lol
Pretty sure Jaiden is still friends with a few people from the Qsmp. Though, I don’t know much about the rest.
Well made video, you deserve more subscribers, congrats on the video
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great video! I was watching qsmp when it first started but I stopped after a while and didn't keep up. this video was a good summary
Commenting again because i realized that i didn't compliment all the work behind this video. This was a very good video, informative, neutral, factual, and still managing to be pretty short for this type of deep dive ! I loved that you actually tried to hear everyone's side when most of TH-camrs were just reading tweets like it was the truth and not making any actual research. I also learned a lot I kinda started to stop keeping up with all the lore and drama because Q's community was just horrible and the union things made me completely lose hope for this server. Again thank you so much for this video I can't believe that you have so little following (for the quality of your content I mean)
Keep up with the good work I'm definitely checking more of your channel after that
The fact you only have 75 subscribers is INSANE def gonna watch ur other vids and subscribe
I bet you’ll get really big in a few months because your videos are too well made to not go viral !!!
Appreciate it! 🫡
Tbh, although i currently dislike forever for what he had done and said in the past. He was admittedly my favorite Brazilian streamer, i even accidentally caught his accent from how much i watched his VODS. And while the whole sentiment on "seperate the creator from the character" is somewhat insensitive, q!forever had alot of roles in major events and was also heavily involved with lore based characters such as cellbit, so if anybody ever wanted to retell the qsmp stories-his name is hard to not mention ☹️
Damm how you don't have more then 50k subs? With this video this got so much production behind it how did you do this alone
If you need any editors I edit for 5 youtubers now and I would want to edit for you for free I don't accept payment I do it for fun in my free time from my work as a street builder I'm 25 I can send you my ID on discord or Instagram or WhatsApp up to you. We can talk some in a call and I can edit a video for you and you can say if you want me as a editor
Appreciate it! 🫡 and I don’t do it completely alone
I'm pretty sure all of this is in desorde, the forever thing happened first after purgatory that also make some players stop playing, after that purgatory 2 happened and the reset of the server, after that the admins thing happened and at the same time the Wilbert problem happened, I'm pretty sure
How are accusations against someone worse than employees not being paid
Pedophile groomer brother they refused to remove from their discord server until months later after they got contacted multiple times by multiple people telling them to remove their brother. Then, they proceeded to let their pedophile of a brother work on the Qsmp. That bad enough for ya?
I rarely like videos, but I gave this video a like. Allow the algorithm to take your video to the literal heavens above and let it give you a hundred thousand subscribers.
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It fell already? Damn.
Yep it’s over it seems like
That’s what happens when you break multiple laws and refuse to cooperate.
Only 334 subscribers? Lemme fix that.
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bro,its simply just getting boring and less excited over time,its just not that fun of a project for me in the end
i just miss gegg
Me too
Gegg was the best
Tbh Tommy make it worse and when DREAM contacted his mother about Tommy making fun of the situation his mother make it worse as well by going on Twitter and saying that DREAM is harassing her.. dude Tommy will be in danger when he turn 18 but DREAM helped you with it. he was just saying to tell your son to stop and don't make the situation as a funny story.
Banger video dawg
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12:14 i didn't think someone could make *grooming* jokes but here it is😅😅😅
lol I just left it in, I was just like “I did not need to specify it was in a weird way it’s always weird”
i had no idea it was that bad omg
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816th subscriber wow good work :D
Actually nice and informative video. I was wondering where that server ended up at but had no desire to do a deep dive on the internet myself
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Vid is great, commenting for engagement, wanna see this do well!
Thank you! 🫡
@DeadPixelTwo Its the least I can do 🫡
I don't even think the qsmp failed (like many comments say here), it was just short-lived but amazing. I don't think the word "failure" applies to it
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