This is squash at a very fast speed (even for these top pros)! For those looking to compare the current top players' skills with Jahangir Khan and Jansher Khan, remember that the Khans grew up playing squash with a different scoring system (9 points - hand in / hand out) that emphasized stamina and patience over ambitious stroke play. The longest professional matches in that era could go to 2+ hours, hence the players learnt to keep the speed at a slightly slower level. The racket skills however were quite comparable as were the breath taking reflexes and speed on the court (to dig out impossible drops and nicks). Also note that Jahangir began his professional career playing with a wooden racket at a time when the tin used to be higher - so it was even harder to try to kill the ball in the front court - yet another reason why these players played less aggressively. Unfortunately, the TV footage from those days is not high definition so it is mostly impossible to see the squash ball. Thus, I can understand why it is harder for the current squash players to be respectful of the top professional squash players from the past! Even beyond Jahangir and Jansher, there were several top notch Australian squash players who would stand shoulder to shoulder with Nick and Ramy if they were playing today!
Jahangir khan has won 555 matches in a row, then lost one, won again for 9 months. He was said to be worlds fittest man in a magazine and 10 times British open champion. He came in guniess world record book for most won matches.. The Best Ever
@Hammad Malik a very good summary. The old game with the higher tin and heavier and less powerful rackets was (comparatively) slower, longer and more attritional; the modern game is fast and explosive, and with many shots that the old-timers would consider to be 'too loose' A match between either of the mighty Khans and a fit Ramy Ashour or Amr Shabana would be a wonderful spectacle -- but as you note, the old and new games are so different, it would be an unfair contest (perhaps two matches, one played under 1990 conditions and the other 2019)
yeah i would agree with you. The character of the game has changed and the fitness of today's players is incredible, beyond that of the khans or any past players. It's just a different era, sports evolve and players get better. It happens in every sport...
Yoou're right - out of curiosity I cunted some rallies in this match vs a Khan vs Khan 1987 - Khans averaged about 40.4 shots per minute, these two were at 46.7 which is more than 10% faster game. I personally think it is more down to the slower ball (double-yello dots were not yet made back then) and the lower tin encouraging more attacking play. Plus these guys take the ball before the back wall and play a more dying length, and volley more. Rackets may play a part but very hard to quantify.
Football is a great game and so is squash, I play both and have represented my state and university in both the games and let me tell you the exhilaration experienced in both the sports is just...undefinable. Its a different story if you're talking about American Football, in that case I concur.
what ball are they using in the game? I too play squash , but we only use the standard Dunlop's 2-dot ball, and that has the least bounce among all kinds of a squash ball.
On glass courts they play with a heavier and slower white ball. The white would not show well on the regular white walls, where they use a double yellow dot. The glass court and white ball make it harder to hit with speed, but it’s no problem for these two top players.
I do actually and I have watched many youtube videos of the Khans playing and I'm not really impressed, they were great players of their age but they wouldn't rank in today's game. It's a subjective opinion of course and can never be proven, but its what I believe.
I disagree about players being much fitter now...the game is much faster but the racquets do 10x more of the work...have you ever tried playing with a wooden racquet? It's virtually impossible for someone used to graphite let alone the current super-light super-stiff styles. It also took incredible skill to hit a tight shot with a wooden racquet. Modern players may have faster acceleration and shorter recovery times but older players were much stronger all-around imo. Every era is different.
Lol at the downvotes from nick matthew fan boys. Yea the ball is thrown to the audience, but nick matthew smashed it into the audience. That is not cool. Please watch the video and see how he drills it after he loses. obvious lack of sportsmanship. Happened quite a few times.
I doubt Jansher or Jhangir Khan's would take a game from any of today's worldstop 10 players in their prime! Today's athletes are physically far superior, and the game little resembles the game played by them.
Some of Matthews conduct on court does take the shine off of his squash ability he is one of the most athletic squash player but given he is a grown man and also a professional you would expect better conduct on court.
I'm not interested in Khan's past, I'm comparing the skill and fitness of today's players, the game has changed dramatically. Watch the game here, Khan would've asked for lets and strokes all the time, in an attempt to slow the game down. As you implied in your 1st post you prefer the old slow game with lots of pretentious lets and strokes. I prefer the modern game free flowing dynamic game, dominated by Europeans, not the Khan's or Pakistan are you sure that's not the real problem?
I mean to say that to many minor errors are being made, i love players like matthew, ashore, willstrong but they make stupid little errors that are annoying to witness, its no longer about pakistani pride its about the quality of the game, when watching jhangir i really felt like the game moved more like a river flow that todays tidle waves, well i could say more but im eager to hear your opinion, you seem intellectual which i admire and enjoy, please take no offense, healthy debate this is :)
I was wonderring for a while wither you were right about the khan thing, now i can say Confidently that you are wrong, i to love the speed of this new age squash but as a player my self i love seeing people getting traped fustrated and then end for the kill, today's players are constantly getting traped and the trapper making stupid mistakes and releasing them, for jhansher all it took was one wrong shot and the point was over, that was quality, i dont mean to say that todays game are bad (cont)
Briki Polski, I can fully understand it being boring when you don't understand the dynamics of the game. I never knew how in-depth squash was until I started watching coaching videos. There is an incredible amount of detail going on, which would mean nothing to an untrained eye. Movement, footwork, body position, ball placement, opponent awareness, state of mind, tactics, etc., to give you an idea.
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This is squash at a very fast speed (even for these top pros)! For those looking to compare the current top players' skills with Jahangir Khan and Jansher Khan, remember that the Khans grew up playing squash with a different scoring system (9 points - hand in / hand out) that emphasized stamina and patience over ambitious stroke play. The longest professional matches in that era could go to 2+ hours, hence the players learnt to keep the speed at a slightly slower level. The racket skills however were quite comparable as were the breath taking reflexes and speed on the court (to dig out impossible drops and nicks). Also note that Jahangir began his professional career playing with a wooden racket at a time when the tin used to be higher - so it was even harder to try to kill the ball in the front court - yet another reason why these players played less aggressively. Unfortunately, the TV footage from those days is not high definition so it is mostly impossible to see the squash ball. Thus, I can understand why it is harder for the current squash players to be respectful of the top professional squash players from the past! Even beyond Jahangir and Jansher, there were several top notch Australian squash players who would stand shoulder to shoulder with Nick and Ramy if they were playing today!
Jahangir khan has won 555 matches in a row, then lost one, won again for 9 months. He was said to be worlds fittest man in a magazine and 10 times British open champion. He came in guniess world record book for most won matches.. The Best Ever
God Sloth Yes that also happened. His stamina and being on the court was just unbelievable.
agreed
@Hammad Malik a very good summary.
The old game with the higher tin and heavier and less powerful rackets was (comparatively) slower, longer and more attritional; the modern game is fast and explosive, and with many shots that the old-timers would consider to be 'too loose'
A match between either of the mighty Khans and a fit Ramy Ashour or Amr Shabana would be a wonderful spectacle -- but as you note, the old and new games are so different, it would be an unfair contest (perhaps two matches, one played under 1990 conditions and the other 2019)
Elshorbagy is better than nick in head to head and elshorbagy beat nick mathew when he was 17 years old shorbagy
Ramy best player on the history of squash !
wow, what did I just watch o__O . from the first look, this seems to be the most awesome individual sport I've ever seen.
you must be joking
yeah i would agree with you. The character of the game has changed and the fitness of today's players is incredible, beyond that of the khans or any past players. It's just a different era, sports evolve and players get better. It happens in every sport...
Watching old Ramy Ashour videos and wondering when will we see another Ramy Ashour like player.
amazing squash. great picture. thanks for putting on here.
Yoou're right - out of curiosity I cunted some rallies in this match vs a Khan vs Khan 1987 - Khans averaged about 40.4 shots per minute, these two were at 46.7 which is more than 10% faster game. I personally think it is more down to the slower ball (double-yello dots were not yet made back then) and the lower tin encouraging more attacking play. Plus these guys take the ball before the back wall and play a more dying length, and volley more. Rackets may play a part but very hard to quantify.
Seriously one of the most energetic squash matches!
Maybe the best squash video on youtube! A few mistakes but what a pace! Fabulous!
thumbs up if this is much better to watch and play than american football
Wish i could play like these guys!!!
"This is astounding squash." What a comment!
great video
We don't only have a Squash Champ.. Check out OSANARASHI our great Sumo " Sand Storm"!!!!
Great game!!
Wonderful!
is it just me or is there traffic moving behind the court? looks like head and tail lights of cars moving in the centre at the top of the front wall
Football is a great game and so is squash, I play both and have represented my state and university in both the games and let me tell you the exhilaration experienced in both the sports is just...undefinable. Its a different story if you're talking about American Football, in that case I concur.
He is now.
i need th final match
what ball are they using in the game? I too play squash , but we only use the standard Dunlop's 2-dot ball, and that has the least bounce among all kinds of a squash ball.
On glass courts they play with a heavier and slower white ball. The white would not show well on the regular white walls, where they use a double yellow dot. The glass court and white ball make it harder to hit with speed, but it’s no problem for these two top players.
@@BruceAChristie Thanks mate...cheerz
I do actually and I have watched many youtube videos of the Khans playing and I'm not really impressed, they were great players of their age but they wouldn't rank in today's game. It's a subjective opinion of course and can never be proven, but its what I believe.
never seen mattew dive
I disagree about players being much fitter now...the game is much faster but the racquets do 10x more of the work...have you ever tried playing with a wooden racquet? It's virtually impossible for someone used to graphite let alone the current super-light super-stiff styles. It also took incredible skill to hit a tight shot with a wooden racquet. Modern players may have faster acceleration and shorter recovery times but older players were much stronger all-around imo. Every era is different.
Best players in the world in their prime
3:20 , that rally
Ramy is the greatest here
Amazing - the rally @ 3:21!!
Mathew is amzing
Lol at the downvotes from nick matthew fan boys. Yea the ball is thrown to the audience, but nick matthew smashed it into the audience. That is not cool. Please watch the video and see how he drills it after he loses. obvious lack of sportsmanship. Happened quite a few times.
Agreed..they're Gods on court
Lack of sportsmanship by Nick Matthew when he hits the ball out of the court after he loses.
I doubt Jansher or Jhangir Khan's would take a game from any of today's worldstop 10 players in their prime! Today's athletes are physically far superior, and the game little resembles the game played by them.
ramy ############# 1
Some of Matthews conduct on court does take the shine off of his squash ability he is one of the most athletic squash player but given he is a grown man and also a professional you would expect better conduct on court.
......and lose his sponsorship?
I am so confused and misplaced
That almost made sense. Try again.
better not try
I still don't see how Ashour is not world's number 1 !!
erm.. like always, the ball is thrown to the audience after every game?
Traditionally, it is.
Was born with it. He dies if he takes it off.
Err.. counted! oops... my bad
God that flooring is so noisy !
wao
Always ramy!
I'm not interested in Khan's past, I'm comparing the skill and fitness of today's players, the game has changed dramatically. Watch the game here, Khan would've asked for lets and strokes all the time, in an attempt to slow the game down. As you implied in your 1st post you prefer the old slow game with lots of pretentious lets and strokes. I prefer the modern game free flowing dynamic game, dominated by Europeans, not the Khan's or Pakistan are you sure that's not the real problem?
1:15 lol
lol good one
I play booth and football is nowhere near as intense as squash. Squash is faster and has a more "noble" competition. Football is more "savage"
the besr
I mean to say that to many minor errors are being made, i love players like matthew, ashore, willstrong but they make stupid little errors that are annoying to witness, its no longer about pakistani pride its about the quality of the game, when watching jhangir i really felt like the game moved more like a river flow that todays tidle waves, well i could say more but im eager to hear your opinion, you seem intellectual which i admire and enjoy, please take no offense, healthy debate this is :)
Btw is Matthew back to the faux wife-beaters? Please say it ain't so. And kind of classless the way he drills the ball out of the court when he loses.
I was wonderring for a while wither you were right about the khan thing, now i can say Confidently that you are wrong, i to love the speed of this new age squash but as a player my self i love seeing people getting traped fustrated and then end for the kill, today's players are constantly getting traped and the trapper making stupid mistakes and releasing them, for jhansher all it took was one wrong shot and the point was over, that was quality, i dont mean to say that todays game are bad (cont)
He actually has to wear that shit every match because of his sponsor.
get a new shirt, Matthew
Op
Almost better than porn.
the current game is as dominated by egyptians as it is by europeans
Anyone else doesn't like football at all?
yh i do ... please dont reply i have no interest in someone like u :)
ru nuts, or just dont know anything about squash? -LOL
i miss the days of jansher and jhangir khan .. so sad that squash has turned into this :(
i personally find it really boring and my friends think im crazy but really its just boring lool
Briki Polski, I can fully understand it being boring when you don't understand the dynamics of the game. I never knew how in-depth squash was until I started watching coaching videos. There is an incredible amount of detail going on, which would mean nothing to an untrained eye. Movement, footwork, body position, ball placement, opponent awareness, state of mind, tactics, etc., to give you an idea.
Amazing. It helps when your opponent isnt built like a brick shithouse though!