What You Need to Know for Your Coding Career
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ค. 2021
- There are 3 stages to anyone's coding career: learning how to code, getting the job, and performing at that job. You'd think these would take the same skills, but unfortunately that's not exactly the case.
When you are learning how to code, you're learning syntax, and the basics of any programming language - variables, loops, data types, data structures, algorithms. A lot more if you're going through a CS program. You'll even get into building your own projects - some simple, some maybe complex.
But that's not the only thing different when working as a professional developer. You do need to take the majority of those skills you learned when you first started, but unless you were just on your ____ while learning, there's so much more to the job. You must have a familiarity with, and actually become proficient in, Git, code review, Agile or whatever dev methodology your team uses. That entails learning whatever version control system they use, and whatever project management system they use.
Chances are when you were learning, you didn't use CI/CD. Or code analysis tools like SonarQube to ensure code quality and track technical debt. And these are a few of the things I'd like to talk about today - what you learn on the job as a software engineer. Hard skills, soft skills, and maybe potential salary.
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Me after The Social Network movie: i wanna to create things that no one else could create
Also me after years of education: here is my ToDo list app
still i can't find a good to-do list app.
@@Thavi use Microsoft to do app
@@Thavi make yours.
@@Thavi notion.so? asana?
Really a to do app after 4 years? How come? Not a lot of imagination or not enough talent or not enough time to spend on coding?
Hey man! Since I started watching you back in January, I started applying to paid internships as a first year student. After 2 projects, 40 applications, 10 technical tests, 10 online interviews, i finally got a paid internship as a frontend React developer. It would've been so much harder without your videos. Thanks a lot. I'm sure there's so many more people in my situation, and on behalf of them too, THANK YOU
I'm happy for you man, go for it!
can you tell me about your applications/projects and how you managed to land an internship as a first year?
I'm happy to hear that! You put in the work and deserve all the credit, but I'll accept the compliment. Thanks! And good luck at your first internship!
Congratz man. I also had 2 projects when I got my first dev internship. I guess 2 is the magic number huh?
@@hubietrades well in Romania it's unusual, but not impossible to get a first year internship. First off, did a lot of algorithmics(C/C++) in highschool, but I was never good at it(couldn't solve in contest time for shit). Then, between highschool and uni(like 3 momths) I started crunching web dev courses and trying to mimic what they did. Wasn't passionate enough, until I used web development as procrastination from uni courses. I made a mobile app using Ionic and Angular which integrates the Google image recognition api and lets you scan receipts into text form and creates statistics based on the products. And another one, using react mainly(other things i just followed tutorials cuz i knew i couldnt land a fullstack job so i went for frontend) and nodejs, jquery, etc, i made a site for a hotel, where i mainly focused in showing my css prowess(cool loading animations, responsive pages etc).
One other thing I'd add: documentation.
Because at some point in your tenure at your workplace, someone else is going to work on your code. And you don't want to be asked what kind of drugs you were on, and are they legal in Colorado.
Yes! and Comments. I respect code with comments
No, read uncle Bob's clean code on comments. They are basically, foremost, explanations of bad code. Make your code explain itself. Learn the design patterns, use their names correctly so we directly know what the code supposed to do. And write the test!
@@martinbakker7615 Generally, I agree.
Sadly, most developers aren't at that level of thinking through their work. It's a skill that needs to be practiced regularly.
@@RiZeLegiT exactly!! You said it right!!
@@martinbakker7615 I gotta check that book out.
“Soft skills = be a better human being”. Lol best definition ever.
but is there any human live in coding..progammers are not human when they started their work...
Not really… it’s more like “appear to be a good highly charismatic human being”
@@sorvex9 No, it's about teamwork. Watch the video again.
@@FahadAli-ot5kn i dont agree. Theres humanity in coding. Computers are so mindlessly dumb it loses the feel of humans. But humans have to become so dumb it seems robotic.
I totally agree with you.
I'm 24 and I'm just starting to learn, I wish I started earlier but hey, better late than never.
Same
Damn you're so old lmao
That's the spirit, dude! Keep at it :)
Ur not old. Ur very young
Your good man, I'm 32 and still a year away from completing my computer science degree. Like you said better late than never lol. But yeah, I too wish I started earlier.
Great takeaway Forrest! Soft skills essentially boils down to “Just be a good human being” and “Don’t be an a**hole”. Totally agree with you on this! Because empathy and the compassion to help a fellow peer naturally follows.
That's just blatantly false and misleading people.
@@Starioshka no it isn’t, as long as it’s genuine
So true about the algorithm/interview stuff. It pains me that we use obscure, advanced algorithms to judge someone's ability to be an effective software developer.
Fucking HR
You don't like to talk about soft skills, but you clearly have soft skills. Thanks for the tips !
You learn very very quickly that soft skills are vital lol. Everything you have to do is based off of your communication with others pretty much.
I'm starting an internship in about a month, and this video is extremely helpful. Thank you so much, Forrest
New record of fastest subscription. Having someone put you through with your interest at heart is priceless 💯
Regarding project management, the best project management tool I've used for personal projects is post-it notes. Physical or digital, I don't over-complicate it, just a list of "stuff to do" and "stuff done" essentially. Sometimes I use color-coding for types of tasks like infrastructure, application, admin, etc.
This was very helpful, been working for 10 months at a small start up and I can see myself implementing alot of these tips.
Thanks!
This sums up what I encountered on my first dev job. Except I don't think we used code analysis tool.
Also the soft skills part you talked about really hit home for me. I never thought that could pose a challenge until I worked in a team. Thanks for the video.
Hey man love the videos, gives me hope for a future while I’m struggling through school. Funny enough, played WoW since I was a kid and fell in love with computers for the same reason and now I am Senior CS Major at ODU too!
Super helpful video! Just starting a new job soon and found this really great for brushing up on aspects of the job I should prep for on top of the basics.
Ok ... I HAVE to just pause the video @ around 13 mins... just to say .. THANK YOU. Dude... immediate sub and like. I am an IT professional tryi.... Switching career paths. I "know" or "know of" these things but you made it so simple and easy to understand. You ROCK dude! Keep up the good work and I look forward to more of your content!
Thanks for this! Your videos convinced me to make the jump from biology to bioinformatics and have been a very helpful guide!
Right now, I'm in my last year of high school. Summer, next year, I'm going to be spat out of my school into the unknown. But, I know exactly what I want to do with my life going forward. I've been taking programming classes ever since my first taste in middle school with an incredibly basic robotics class. Then, going into high school, I've been learning as much as I can. I've taken every course I could relating to the subject at my high school, I've been making relatively simple projects on my laptop at home in my free time, I've made a couple websites with my friends, and I'm confident this is what I want to do with the rest of my life.
The only issue is I have absolutely no idea how I'm going to get there. Going to university, getting a job, et cetera. It's all complicated, and I feel dead in the water.
Your channel has been a life preserver for me. Thank you.
Im with you man
men, I hadn't subscribed to you, I would have probably not known where to start. I appreciate this wise information!
Thank you sir. O7. I start school on the 21st. I’m terrified because I struggled with math all my life.
But I’m embracing the struggle and charging in. Wish me luck 💪🏾
You make really great, down to earth videos! Super helpful perspective! Keep up the great work!
Started in Full Stack Development two years ago. Stumbled upon your video just now at random and I have to say, the information and wisdom in each video is invaluable. Appreciate it bro. Helps remove some of the stigmas and fears of starting a job in this industry.
Hey, are you still into development? I am a beginner, learning react. I have been learning web dev for years and the only challenge I face is the complexity of JavaScript.
I have learnt C and a bit of Python in the past. C is so consistent in its syntax but JS is just a mix of everything! some methods and functions are really not easy to understand on learning for the first time! How did you get around such challenges?
The social network definitely inspired a generation I remember watching that movie and especially the hacking scene. It made sitting behind a keyboard and breaking out emacs look so damn awesome. One of the reasons I chose php as my first language, Im definitely nowhere near where I want to be when it comes to coding , but nowhere near giving up.
TheSocialNetwork was for developers what Rounders was for poker players.
Both kinda hooked me.
@@DarrenJohn10X so you both
I completely agree. I have been in the industry for about 3 years and you are spot on.
At its perfect timing bro. I've just landed my first job and will start on june 1st needed that so much
Congrats dude. What's the position/company? I will hopefully be a first time employee after my master's.
Great vid, keep making amazing content, you’re one of the people that inspires me to continue programming
Amazing. Clean, fun to watch and SO educational. Great job! Thanks you so much!!!!
Love this. This is spot on to how I approach coding. Coding is not just a job it can have a huge impact on the world and even those closest to you. How can we make the world and the processes with it more efficient and less cumbersome for everyone.
I feel like I'm going to be watching this again at some point lol so much good info.
Same here, saved it for another rewatch at another time haha
Great video. Felt like everything was relevant to my current position as an about to graduate CSCI major.
I really enjoyed watching your video thank you. I've subscribed, you are the first youtuber that I don't find annoying :)
37 and started learning code about 6 months ago in the most untraditional path possible. Didn't start with education. Started taking completed code, combine it it with similar code. Create a dumpster fire that doesn't work, then try and fix it without know what any of it means. After doing that with 3 different languages (in order: Rust, Python, JS) many times. I started over with guide books. Now im finally starting a foundations of JS course. Now will learn some, build something, then break it and start this mad process over again. My coding mentor's ADHD hates my process. But I feel I've learned exponentially more in the last 6 months than following traditional learning paths .
I love this video-summary 🎉 Very realistic and accurate!
I like your straightforward approach to explaining soft skills / communication :)
Thank you so much!
Great video, lots of helpful information. I'm in the process of learning to code and switch careers
Great stuff, I'm beginning to learn , it's intimidating. I'll look for videos on how to start.
I love your videos. you speak what aspiring developers would love to hear ... so they can get better... more skilled...thank you. this is going to help me a lot.. to get back
Excellent video. Thank you ❤️
If you follow up with details about every aspect it would be the perfect mini course 🎯
i. e. : Part I: Programming aspects to master: primitive types, structures, oob, network, multi-threading, api usage,.. etc. with examples in some programming language. Only the general ideas, like 15~20 minutes video.
Part II: git, code management, sonarqube,.. etc. like things that improve and organize programmer's work.
Part |||: CI/CD dev/prod isolation, deployment automation,.. stuff like that.
Part IV: Building portfolio, finding problems to solve, inspiration..etc.
Thanks again 🙏
Tron Legacy was what got me first interested. Not the corny digital world stuff, but the few times they show a terminal in the beginning of the film- it always looked so cryptic and intriguing.
Hey! Feeling super inspired thank you so much! I know little to nothing about computers I feel like but for some reason this keeps coming to me and everything I've read about the type of person who likes this kind of thing is me! Do you feel like it's fun for you? I don't want to dread working and this feels like it would seem very mentally stimulating and kind of fun!
I really want to become a software engineer and your videos really helps thanks man💖
I am in high school and have been learning coding on my own could you please put a video focusing on aspiring Computer Scientists(like high schoolers) and what should they do and how should they do it 🙏
great video, first one I caught from you but I appreciate it!
Youre a legend. One of your most actionable and helpful vids! Im finishing up codeacademy full stack course and a lot of the technologies and methods you discussed i never knew about. Thanks a lot 😃
I'm learning a lot from you. Thanks so much for this video
Forrest, every one of your videos inspires me. Thank you.
Thank YOU!
Holy crap we have a really similar story of how we got into it. I was obsessed with computers when I was young, first got stuck in at 7/8 with an old Amstrad CPC464 then learned some basic HTML and JS at 12 as the idea that I could make the computer do stuff and then let others see it was fascinating to me. Then at about 16 or so I just kinda stopped for a few years, went to university did Mathematics, kept taking out coding books though as the bug got me again, halfway into my degree my maths tutor took me aside and said "Look your results are dissapointing against what I know you can do but I don't think it's because you're being lazy, I get the feeling there's something else you want to do?" and that shoved me into Computer Science a week later (Had some family stuff going on so had to move home which delayed it)
Fast forward 10 years from there I'm now still working as a developer and love it but like yourself I wish I didn't stop for those 5/6 years and wonder where I could be had I not.
I should add that Maths Lecturer and my CompSci tutor I feel like I'm always indebted too really, would've been very easy for them to just decide my worsening results were due to being lazy rather than getting to the root of it and sorting it out.
Ah yes, I love when Kevin Parker from Tame Impala explains about coding
1 year full stack web developer and this video helped me a lot. Thank you 🙏
Did you notice how every idiot who can't even compile hello world without errors calls himself "full stack developer" these days? ;-)
@@lepidoptera9337everyone starts somewhere bro
You know what! I really enjoyed watching this video. You told the truth. good job man
Thanks for the time means a lot I will slowly work my way towards perfection alothough I’m not perfect I seem to be grasping this coding concept I’m going to educate myself a little more but great video overall thanks again ps idk if it’s me or you but you seem to be helping out a lot shows a lot of character and well it’s much needed where I’m from …. Anyway (waving hand emoji)
Great video! Thank you for the information!!
always answering the questions im asking myself
thanks for the video, very informative.
thanks for the info ! now we only go up from here :)
Just discovered this video and just suscribed to your channel. Amazing content and i only have 21 channels that im suscribed to, im very exclusive with my YT algorithm... Keep doing content. Amazing !
Are you trying to catch these hands in typeracer @Forrest?? I heard that brag about 100 wpm at 12 yrs old
You're light work. Screw this TH-cam boxing stuff. TH-cam TypeRacer and I'll show you I'm the best!
@@fknight has your typing speed significantly improved since then, or is it about the same? When I was 12, I had ~80 wpm
I am 20 and mine typing speed was 15wpm 3 months ago 😂😂 now it is 60 (now it is 73 )
@@prakharposwal9 15 --> 60 is much easier than 60 --> 105 or 105 --> 150
@@mskyba you don't say :)
Going for promotion in my own field; has NOTHING to do with coding. I will be using all of these examples of communication and empathy in my own promotion panel. Thanks dude
Man SAME - just got to the part about the xbox avatar (and maybe MW2 10th prestige lobbies) lol brought back many memories of tinkering back when i was younger.
Love the content! Got my first software engineering internship going into my junior year of college starting in about two weeks perfect timing for a video like this.
Amazing video! easy to understand and informative.
different background music! FINALLY!
Just described my experience in my internship over the summer. That 3 months benefited my significantly more than school. At least a year of school would be needed to make me feel remotely the same competency way wise compared to the internship
Really helpful. You earned a new sub
Thanks for the help. I'm only 15 but I'll try to apply what I've learned from this video in the upcoming graduate years.
It was great that I ended up on your video👍
Amazing story.
I wish to be like you. :)
you are one of the most logical person i have ever seen
this guy logics
All great points, wholesome video. Also, I want that NVIDIA cup ...
If u ever have to use one of the implementations of any advanced algorithm u are forced to use a library that implements said algorithm anyway, since it is usually optimized to the max and u programming it on ur own is 99,999999% of the time just a huge waste of time
you are 100% correct; but that won't help you in the interview, sadly.
Thank you Forest King and Priest. God bless you.
Not sure where this fits, but one on the things that I have learned in the many years that I have been programming is that you need to make your code robust. In this I mean that your code is originally written in a manner that precludes problems. Think about the code and how it operates - this is especially true in Multitasking systems. Never assume that a piece of code will never be changed - that is probably the first one that will be changed. I could go on but the one rule that I try to always follow is - Write the code and document the code so that someone else can come along and understand what you are doing. In my work that person was most likely myself years later when there is some issue. So having well documented code saves me considerable pain.
Love the content you make♥
Great video!
Thank oyu it was a practical video. I liked it! Great job! :)
SonarQube, CI/CD pipeline, Linters (SonarLint) this all is really usefull
Great Stuff! Whats your thoughts on learning architecture and TDD for learning "how to code" instead of just dangling around with ui coding and not learning about the bigger picture first before coding UI with no backend and the struggling with "and how to. I get it do somethings now" ?
Yes!
I understood all of what he is talking about, I think I'm ready to apply for jobs.
I wish someone can answer this question but it's been a long time that i'm having a hard time using css and i just wanted to know if i have a decent knowledge in css i should move on to JS
I was just on Clement’s video about the same subject and when I saw you put his face up I thought my brain was mixing things up and I was on the same video for a second
Wow your content has improved a lot over the years. Keep it up brother 🦾
Thank you for video man
What can you recommend as a first language to learn? I know C64 basic and Bash. I never really got into coding but I like too. I am your guy if it comes to hardware though.
I know this vid is 1 month old as of now, but I want to clarify something: when it comes to "creating something no one else can" (and even more in programmig), it does not depend that much on how much you know, or how many years you've been coding. No. It moslty depends on your creativity. If you have the idea, then making it happening is just studying. That's the easy part, because anyone can do that. Anyone can google how to loop through an array or take a free online course, but no one in the entire world had the idea YOU have, and that's what matters the most.
Isn't anybody going to talk about how Forrest mocked AlgoExpert for a second there?
Hey thanks a lot for this. My school doesn’t offer any computer programming classes and it is really annoying. You have any suggestions to learn?
Just started my first developer job last Monday and man, this video really nails it for my experience so far. My first stand up I was like "what is sonar??" Thanks for this video!!
I just started learning at 27. Is that a bad age to start?
@@ducksauce0074 Not at all, go for it!
@@clockwerkz thanks man. Any tips on which language i should start with?
@@ducksauce0074 All depends on your interests - if you're interested in web development, I would recommend learning JavaScript. But for game development, I would say check out Unity and learn C#.
The good news is the basics are the same with any language.. variables, if/then conditions, loops, etc. :)
Please add time spans, it helps for the experienced people. Keep up the good work!
Love your videos!
I recommend learning how to actually read and understand documentation rather than relying on a specific stack overflow to tell you how to write your niche methods
Any suggestions on how to better yourself in this way?
the document is complex tho
Depends if documentation is actually written well. 90% of documentation is absolute crap.
@@Scottx125Productions some documentation is pretty shitty
@@Scottx125Productions the skill is in learning to read crap documentation 😜
Hi new subscriber…. What Microphone are you using in this video. I’m an audio guy, you mic has a great sound. Thanks for any info.
Superb advice!
I'm just 18 and I love computer ❤️
Same but I'm 16
@@heyyounotyouyou3761 Same but I'm 2
I'm 26, I've been trying to code since I was 21 this was inspiring. Thank you 😊
how are you doing now ?
@@umarajmal6216 He is still living in his parent's basement. ;-)
28 here been in the the network industry for the last 5 years or so but started going back to school for software engineer and I won’t lie I’m a bit nervous about it and my ability to code. I am doing C# right no and I’m not sure if it’s just my teacher or me but I find myself having to look up things a lot for the projects he gives. Not that I cheat or anything I just look for solutions and it seems there are so many ways to accomplish one task. And not to mention I have no idea why I should learn on my free time. All I do know is I’m nervous and not sure if I should make the jump to this.
i have problem when i am writhing in algoexspert, the code are right but wen i am running it used error . sorry for my bad english i am not from at english speaking country
Awesome video!!
I want to become a software engineer but idk what to do how to get started or if I need the cs degree or to learn it from coding bootcamp
I'm 16, starting on a iPad with swift playgrounds.. should I continue with swift or switch languages before I get too deep.
You are my inspiration sir
My goal is to become a developer within the next 2 yrs. I have just accepted a position as a Project Manager for a web company, and although I will not be developing myself, I will be handling client contact and working with the developers daily. Will the experience I gain from this help me land my first developer job in the future?
Hey Forest, Ive learned the Branching Model and the Gitflow Workflow model, they though us how to clone, revert a commit etc etc, is that enough for my internship resume,im on a CS Major.
If you read this please reply it would help alot of students.. Keep up!