Roli still needs to push the tactile advantage of their instruments - I don't care at all about their sounds or software or how well it works with abelton live - what makes them special is the ability to modulate pitch or effects with physical actions, that's what they should still be pushing.
>I don't care at all how well it works with abelton live Oh, man, but you should cause it fucking doesn't. No MPE in Ableton, so if it's not mono synth you're playing with, you're going to have some nasty time setting 10 fucking midi tracks for every voice you want to make.
I wonder if it's possible to make an AU and/or VST that simply "hosts" other plugins, which acts as an MPE adapter, so that you load a (single) softsynth into it with the MIDI set to omni mode and the wrapper takes care of the MPE routing???
Great presentation, I have only just begun to explore the kit's possibilities. I've been a musician for 40 years (analog instruments) and this makes me feel like a beginner, but that is a GOOD thing. Totally fresh new approach and limitless possibilities.
I'm digging the sound and the tactile interface (maps really well to iPad touch interface). And a social platform built in. Really interesting integration. Glad he showed a real DAW integration too.
Super slick demo. Still took 4 attempts to plug USB cable in right way. I have read about this stuff in SOS for the last couple of years, first time I've seen it in action, really cool.
I counted three, but only because the first was to the wrong port. Anyway the standard is 3 times. 1.The right way, but doesn't go in, 2. The wrong way so doesn't go in, 3. The right way and this time it does go in.
thinking that it's like my audio looper pedal. might be useful for transitions. Sample trigger and manipulation. Would be interesting to see a production buildup from just the app and a few pieces of the Roli hardware and the app.
The problem I have with this system is when the battery life of the blocks die and then they are dependent on the cable. Then, we have the throughput of having several devices running through cables. If only ROLI can make blocks where the consumer can drop 2 AAA batteries or a 9 volt into the blocks, the blocks wont be so dependent on the internal components. NEXT, what people who use PC's? The MAJOR problem also with these blocks is this. The PC market suffers to have anything work well to what is demonstrated here. Why? Because the MAC market has always had the MUSIC tools, not the PC. Something to think about prior to buying these nice things. Oh and BTW, I have 4 blocks along with livepad and loop blocks. I do know what I am talking about. THE BEST COMPONENTS I LOVE FROM ROLI IS THE RISE KEYBOARDS. I have both 25 and 49. If you want to really make music straight into a DAW with components like Studio One 3.5, Omnisphere, Breaktweaker, SWAMS and Spitfire Audio components mesh together with NI Complete, the RISE is the way to go. PC base too.
I wonder what kind of engine they were using for the cello and sax sounds? It reminded me of the Yamaha virtual modelling hardware, the plg 150 vl card and the vl 70 module. If this sound engine were available as an app, or better yet a vst it would certainly be worth checking out. The sound does it for me. The smaller controller could find a use.
Chris Liddiard : It’s using the SWAM engine from Audio Modeling. See here: roli.com/stories/swam-soundpacks As far as I understand you can get the same (or at least very similar) results on PCs / Macs with virtual instruments from a company called SampleModeling (who in turn also use the SWAM engine)
The controllers are expressive, the timbres are nice, and yet there’s something very uncomfortable, almost eerie about the Roli gear. Perhaps it is that attempts to be a closed ecosystem, plus the slickness of the controllers without the messiness of knobs, switches, sliders, plugs, and cables. And the music coming from it that sounds already made and simply reassembled. It makes me think of the perfect-looking suburbs of some American cities in the 90s with nobody walking around, or kids playing, or talking to the neighbor. Just perfect lawns, absolutely clean facades. Perhaps I’m too much into the messiness and openness of Bastls, Komas, and the like.
I agree - I really like the Light Block as an instrument to play - but the sounds...:/ the sounds are like the worst Cliches from overpaid DJs laptops. . .They aren't indivivual and 'underground' or 'adaptable' enough. It's like going to a gig and everyone is wearing one of 4 t-shirts - you weren't allowed to wear anything else - and it's a colour that you don't like.
hmm, it works suspiciously well in this demo. I have a few of these and they often play up. For a while I ignored it, thinking they're probably hard at work on updates, but watching these four month old videos of it working flawlessly and seeing how long it takes these guys to release a tiny update that fixes almost nothing, makes it all look like a bit of a sham. For context, I have a gen 2 ipad pro 12.9, a seaboard block, two lightpad block m's, a loop and live block and ableton 9 studio on PC, all software and hardware updated. Always problems since day 1... figures
I bought to this concept too and believed it for almost a year. You brought up the REAL issue with this ... if you get more than one you need a surface while if I do electribe, deluge or Novation circuit i DO not need extra surface to keep pieces together. Magnet will not make it ... a basic flow
Export OUT... Connect IN... he says. I have also heard Continue ON elsewhere. In this new Slickspeak, people are adding words just like adding Roli blocks. How very cool and groovy - I'm so excited about the way language is evolving going FORWARD! (Not!)
Hexspa I have no source you have no source. Otherwise show me. If I had to guess it is mainly because of easy integration into iOS. Because Android runs on a lot of different devices and that would mean a lot of work to optimize an app for that. I mean of course a lot of people have iPhones but I think they see that the effort for an android app isn't worth it, which I think is a pity.
Mainly most music apps work better on iOS because it doesn’t introduce latency, which is a must for any real time performing. Although the noise app does work on pixel, so there is hope for Android users as well
Made the mistake of buying this kit and would not recommend. Bluetooth midi connectivity is useless (as are those additional loop blocks) lightpad does not work well at all (constant stuck notes, triggering wrong sounds) left it too long to return mine but plan to get rid of it as I have bought a much better and useful midi controller from Akai
I really like the idea behind the seaboard. The lightpad is IMHO boring. But I'm disappointed by almost all demos. Most of the sounds are cheap and plastic-like, the demo songs are mostly loveless songs without a real idea (and way to much slides and vibratos just to show off). Seems like it's harder to find a good use for all these expressions on a keyboard then expected.
I know fella but it is really obvious what is elderly in this case. I remember I replied with a definition from a dictionary about a different topic q: Cheers. BTW I own a RISE 49 and I do not approve the Blocks Modular System as compareable to something this spacial and complex as rack systems
Roli still needs to push the tactile advantage of their instruments - I don't care at all about their sounds or software or how well it works with abelton live - what makes them special is the ability to modulate pitch or effects with physical actions, that's what they should still be pushing.
>I don't care at all how well it works with abelton live
Oh, man, but you should cause it fucking doesn't. No MPE in Ableton, so if it's not mono synth you're playing with, you're going to have some nasty time setting 10 fucking midi tracks for every voice you want to make.
Yeah that’s what I saw in it the first time I heard of the seaboard.
I wonder if it's possible to make an AU and/or VST that simply "hosts" other plugins, which acts as an MPE adapter, so that you load a (single) softsynth into it with the MIDI set to omni mode and the wrapper takes care of the MPE routing???
Brendan Mattson agreed it needs to have a midi din fuk the software
00:43- he be like "don't touch, it's mine"
David Martinez "don't feel how shitty this product is"
David Martinez ...Ha Ha...Yeah, he all but slapped his hand away...
It's my preciousss....
@@0100-w2u ok boomer
That's so nice of Ed to interview the Roli guys. Such a down-to-earth fella.
this looks cool I like the way it kinda forces u to "feel out the music rather than a whole bunch of turning knobs & arming tracks etc...
Great presentation, I have only just begun to explore the kit's possibilities. I've been a musician for 40 years (analog instruments) and this makes me feel like a beginner, but that is a GOOD thing. Totally fresh new approach and limitless possibilities.
I'm digging the sound and the tactile interface (maps really well to iPad touch interface). And a social platform built in. Really interesting integration. Glad he showed a real DAW integration too.
Super slick demo. Still took 4 attempts to plug USB cable in right way. I have read about this stuff in SOS for the last couple of years, first time I've seen it in action, really cool.
USB C for life
Camel of Doom yeah, I wanna get one.
"Still took 4 attempts to plug USB cable in right way" LOL thats a good one
I counted three, but only because the first was to the wrong port. Anyway the standard is 3 times. 1.The right way, but doesn't go in, 2. The wrong way so doesn't go in, 3. The right way and this time it does go in.
Camel of Doom everyone knows a usb has 3 sides.
2:58 that Bach cello suite.. very nice.. touch
thought so too!
This guy is awesome. Often a bad demo can ruin the perception of how good a product is.
I love the fact that it's got a collaborative component!! 😃
Now that's an articulate product presenter.
Love this, and the presenter is great!
7:06 how to connect an USB cable
-Wrong
+Wrong
-Right
Can't say I want the product but that salesman was really good at demoing it!
Wish I had money to buy all of them. That's a great demo btw.
Very good salesman.
G you forgot the /srcsmoff - tag...? It's an incredible great product.
Basically :D :D
Professor Hamamoto I couldn’t even make it to the part where he started to demo the product. The use of umm and uh every third word makes me cringe
Not to mention "right", right?
Wow, this is really futuristic. It's impressive and yes, the guy is great at selling while demonstrating musically a weird... instrument?
I remeber when I see the songmaker kit for the first time back in namm 2018
Pretty cool kit!
thinking that it's like my audio looper pedal. might be useful for transitions. Sample trigger and manipulation. Would be interesting to see a production buildup from just the app and a few pieces of the Roli hardware and the app.
The problem I have with this system is when the battery life of the blocks die and then they are dependent on the cable. Then, we have the throughput of having several devices running through cables. If only ROLI can make blocks where the consumer can drop 2 AAA batteries or a 9 volt into the blocks, the blocks wont be so dependent on the internal components. NEXT, what people who use PC's? The MAJOR problem also with these blocks is this. The PC market suffers to have anything work well to what is demonstrated here. Why? Because the MAC market has always had the MUSIC tools, not the PC. Something to think about prior to buying these nice things. Oh and BTW, I have 4 blocks along with livepad and loop blocks. I do know what I am talking about. THE BEST COMPONENTS I LOVE FROM ROLI IS THE RISE KEYBOARDS. I have both 25 and 49. If you want to really make music straight into a DAW with components like Studio One 3.5, Omnisphere, Breaktweaker, SWAMS and Spitfire Audio components mesh together with NI Complete, the RISE is the way to go. PC base too.
I wonder what kind of engine they were using for the cello and sax sounds?
It reminded me of the Yamaha virtual modelling hardware, the plg 150 vl card and the vl 70 module. If this sound engine were available as an app, or better yet a vst it would certainly be worth checking out. The sound does it for me. The smaller controller could find a use.
Chris Liddiard : It’s using the SWAM engine from Audio Modeling. See here: roli.com/stories/swam-soundpacks
As far as I understand you can get the same (or at least very similar) results on PCs / Macs with virtual instruments from a company called SampleModeling (who in turn also use the SWAM engine)
Now THATS how you sell a product!
woah release a huge block!!!! :O
CONGTRATS ON 100K!!!
Thanks, Logan!
You're welcome! I also just hit my first 1K so I am excited on a smaller scale! But again congrats I know how much work it really is.
The controllers are expressive, the timbres are nice, and yet there’s something very uncomfortable, almost eerie about the Roli gear. Perhaps it is that attempts to be a closed ecosystem, plus the slickness of the controllers without the messiness of knobs, switches, sliders, plugs, and cables. And the music coming from it that sounds already made and simply reassembled. It makes me think of the perfect-looking suburbs of some American cities in the 90s with nobody walking around, or kids playing, or talking to the neighbor. Just perfect lawns, absolutely clean facades. Perhaps I’m too much into the messiness and openness of Bastls, Komas, and the like.
I have a seaboard, and I agree to some extent. There can be a sort of "clinical" quality to the sound from equator.
Exactly ... damn
(WxkR) I feel u man. I still want to play with one though lol
I agree - I really like the Light Block as an instrument to play - but the sounds...:/ the sounds are like the worst Cliches from overpaid DJs laptops. . .They aren't indivivual and 'underground' or 'adaptable' enough. It's like going to a gig and everyone is wearing one of 4 t-shirts - you weren't allowed to wear anything else - and it's a colour that you don't like.
I hate cables and wires and messiness. wireless is the future
Nice Tool Kermit!
nice and helpful demo
Can you use this with FL Studios? Or what is the preferred DAW for Roli? Thanks.
7:08
Tries to plug in the usb
Wrong way, let's flip it.
Still wrong, let's flip it again,
Oh, now we're talking.
If Noise wants be a professional app, it should at least give 8 tracks, not just 4. But I love my Roli Block anyway!
oh ed sheeran does demos now?
Gotta pay the bills.
I like this product 👌
Well done how cool it costs this thing
Nice choice for intro-tune by Raphael Saadiq
That man got talent. I want to buy one.
So basically this is Ableton on a trainig wheels. Mushy and soft.
Compatible whit pc?
First time I feel a little more interested in a roli product. I still think it is overpriced though.
Is it compatable with pro tools?
Yes
Get this dude at Against the Clock!
I thought it sounds rehearsed
Hexspa no shit
Do you need the ios or can you do it with the loop block
I'm guessing the word "right" is his crutch word.
Roli vs Linnstrument? And what happened to Eigenharp :( ?
This whole time I thought he had a mole on his left cheek. LOL>>>
Me too haha
On the ipad what daw? Or app
Excuse me what daw are you using there
library sounds lol who wants that?
Needs more knobs though. Yeah, and sliders.
599, not 600. And you save a dollar on that. Wow brillant 599’ how brillant
how to use it live ? sound engine not so good
this is bonkers
Where is 2:57 from, what song?
how to buy please
The magnetic casing that holds the kit looks annoying.
It isn't annoying and you don't need to leave it on, the blocks stay together magnetically
That was just a cardboard packing box :-)
But he should have immediately cleared the tacky box away after unpacking.
Proving more than 2 sides for any usb
hmm, it works suspiciously well in this demo. I have a few of these and they often play up. For a while I ignored it, thinking they're probably hard at work on updates, but watching these four month old videos of it working flawlessly and seeing how long it takes these guys to release a tiny update that fixes almost nothing, makes it all look like a bit of a sham. For context, I have a gen 2 ipad pro 12.9, a seaboard block, two lightpad block m's, a loop and live block and ableton 9 studio on PC, all software and hardware updated. Always problems since day 1... figures
All nice and such but 200 for a small midi controller is so damn high for the average user.
TheChameleon2008
?
$300 (USD) - did you mean Euros?
Roli got nothing in namm 2018.
Super
Cost?
Now if Dashboard ran on iOS, they'd have something.
I want!
right ?
Sorry you lost me! But I've Liked & Subbed
something something, right ? and something something, right ?
the little magnetic box it's in, not a good design choice IMO, the flaps keep unsticking and flapping around, seems extremely fiddly.
I bought to this concept too and believed it for almost a year. You brought up the REAL issue with this ... if you get more than one you need a surface while if I do electribe, deluge or Novation circuit i DO not need extra surface to keep pieces together. Magnet will not make it ... a basic flow
Nice
cool man
I need this but I dont have $
Export OUT... Connect IN... he says. I have also heard Continue ON elsewhere. In this new Slickspeak, people are adding words just like adding Roli blocks. How very cool and groovy - I'm so excited about the way language is evolving going FORWARD!
(Not!)
For that price you could buy maschine which does more for less
Witchcraft.
How to get in india
Order from amazon or the website
@@zaferalabbas thank u
please give me link
Sold
can someone count on how many times he said *uhm*
Yeah 340+u=?
I meant 34+u=?
Couldn't it be simply one device?
But its going to be so expensive again😢
Why is the app iOS only tho
Der Bär because the creators have iphones
Jamal Cole cmon man you know the majority of people have android phones.
Majority of 'people' but the majority of music makers?
Hexspa I have no source you have no source. Otherwise show me. If I had to guess it is mainly because of easy integration into iOS. Because Android runs on a lot of different devices and that would mean a lot of work to optimize an app for that. I mean of course a lot of people have iPhones but I think they see that the effort for an android app isn't worth it, which I think is a pity.
Mainly most music apps work better on iOS because it doesn’t introduce latency, which is a must for any real time performing. Although the noise app does work on pixel, so there is hope for Android users as well
Made the mistake of buying this kit and would not recommend. Bluetooth midi connectivity is useless (as are those additional loop blocks) lightpad does not work well at all (constant stuck notes, triggering wrong sounds) left it too long to return mine but plan to get rid of it as I have bought a much better and useful midi controller from Akai
Shaun C Bluetooth and MIDI should never be used in the same sentence. LOL.
I really like the idea behind the seaboard. The lightpad is IMHO boring. But I'm disappointed by almost all demos. Most of the sounds are cheap and plastic-like, the demo songs are mostly loveless songs without a real idea (and way to much slides and vibratos just to show off).
Seems like it's harder to find a good use for all these expressions on a keyboard then expected.
$599 a bit too much , $199 yes
Good overview. But $600 is still high.
qwe1231 holy fuck 600
I'd like something actually affordable sometime thanks
Be an adult and save up? The capability is well beyond the market and that costs money. Advancing something aint cheap.
Great product, nice demo, but much too high priced. For that money I could get myself 2 Launchpad Pros.
Dude looks like Mikey from Orange County Choppers mixed with Ed Sheeran
this ed sheeran brother, ted sheeran
"modular system" I'M DONE
I know fella but it is really obvious what is elderly in this case. I remember I replied with a definition from a dictionary about a different topic q:
Cheers.
BTW I own a RISE 49 and I do not approve the Blocks Modular System as compareable to something this spacial and complex as rack systems
i got micro triggered also
Adam Volk modular means it comes in different modules, which this does. He’s not comparing it to rack synthesizers.
am i the only one saw ed sheeran?
Mark juck!
ed sheeran is that you?
That anchor looks like Ed Sheeran.... For any eyes??
8:39 lol i hate it when it happens
free for the ones without imagination or talent..and even then it won't hit the top ten.....use your ear as a guide...instead..
3:50 ok stop to talking and start music!
0:25
“A thong maker kit.”
i prefer my japanese strat .
you have to be rich to be a musician today...
Nice with Ableton ~wel
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