Hong 10 isnt really in Jinjo. And Octopus was originally going to compete in Seoul cypher, but they closed the deadline prematurely than they should, because of overwhelming registrations. And Octopus missed the deadline to register for the Seoul cypher, so he registered for the Busan one instead
Sorry that those crews happen to be full of great bboys. That's why they deserve to judge or compete. If there's any clear collusion or favoritism, then say something, but loyalty to Hip-Hop should be greater than crew loyalty.
I don't know about this decision. . Octopus did a air-chair every set at the end. King so had the foundations, originality, musicality, and flow like the Nile river yo. Plus, that footwork! He didn't repeat. Not even on a transition. . Jinjo Crew members won two spots to advance at Red Bull BC One Asia Pacific Qualifier. Hong 10 and Wing were judging both Seoul and Busan. That's isn't right for crew members to be judging, when their people are on the floor bro. I just don't feel right at all. Much respect for Octopus. Hope for the best of luck.. However, I just feel bad for King So. I'm going to study this battle and ask a Vet his opinion
I agree with you King took that. The only thing you're wrong about is that Hong10 isn't a crew member. He's not in any crews with octupus. He was a guest on jinjo for a few competitions but that's it
Kneefur hong10 didn't "officially" join jinjo. However, he is very close with the crew itself (performed/battled together at R-16, BOTY, etc.), which in turn, may lead to a bias when it comes to judging.
King So flowed so well with the music, especially in that first set. Octopus ended every set with the same air chair. You can say King So repeated air flares but the first set he used it for a power combo and the second set he used it as a transition. I thought this should have been a clear win for King So. Also kind of unfair that Octopus got 2 members of Jinjo in the judging panel.
Both of them were running low on moves at this point. Yeah Octopus ended every set on an airchair, but his sets were pretty well executed. King So's last round was pretty basic which is why I think he lost
There's a lot of truth in those statements, especially about So getting a little generic and chasing obvious beats, but I think the airchair is always going to be one of Octopus's go-to moves. He has more variations than anyone I can readily bring to mind (even if it can get a little repetitive for some people), so it's a little hard for me to keep track of exactly what he's done by the end of a competition while still trying to keep an open mind for nuance. Hell, it was a great battle, so the judges had their work cut out for them.
Its funny how everyone is biassed towards air chair (not in a good way ) imo . A lot of b-boys can land into a baby or chair freeze more than once but you can't do it when it comes to air chair ? Like hong 10 did variations with his freeze and different ways to go into it , no one gave a shit , but when someone does different variation with air chairs and different ways to go into it , everyone loses their minds. Yes, i do agree that this battle is a bit biased but my statement here goes to all battles not just this one . It is just my opinion so please don't be offended :D If anyone can tell me a good reason i am wrong , i will be happy to accept my mistakes and move on :) . Oh btw I thought this battle was a tie cause king so is a bit to basic , even for him , and octopus has nice flow but repeats quite a bit .
KoopaOviasu lol everyone ? well he did variations of the freeze and show different ways to go in and out of it . In the end legends like storm and poe one and even el nino voted for him to win . So I don't know what YOU are talking about .
Hell, for me, the floorwork of Octopus was way more impressive and surprising than his freezes. That's where I really thought he distanced himself from King So, who I thought had some nice high points and was very clean, but did have a few generic moments as well (basic textbook footwork on an obvious beat) which felt like filler for such otherwise strong rounds. Still, nothing but respect for both. Probably a harder qualifier than many of the regionals.
Bboyz Rice You can get shit for repeating freezes but still win battles, if you're opponent is sloppy enough. Getting voted to win is completely irrelevant to personal opinion on a bboy's moveset. So unless you've had personal conversations with Poe and Storm about what they think of Hong 10's moveset, I don't think you're in a position to use their opinions to your advantage.
a bunch of idiots saying king so lost because he was being basic? so was octopus but he lacked way more and definitely not enough to beat king so....octopus even knew he lost to king so after the battle ended
definitely thought king so was one of the most deserving in the competition. leon too.. but he also lost to octopus. whatd we learn? practice your airchairs guise
hmm they did repeat some of the moves, maybe octo won cause he got more blow ups and kingso didn't answer octo airchairs and threads.. well i do like kingso better than octo, but i think octo took this after kingso third round :)
I'm pretty 50-50 on this one. I think I would've edged it to Octopus but it really depends. Octopus definitely repeated more but I also think he was a bit cleaner. Both had good musicality. I imagine Octopus won at least partially just because Hong10 and Wing were judges.
Why is everyone crying over Jinjo making history having the first two bboys from the same crew win their countries qualifier. And as for people saying they shouldn't let Jinjo compete, that's terrible advice bboys in the Korean scene should strive to get better not expect for the game to be changed an ban certain ppl from entering cyphers.
yeah there might be some bias among judges, but he got 3:0 score anyway. King So has better musicality and a lil bit more fluent by all rounds, and Octopus bring more various and technical sets. I think judge's decision reveals that they prefer latter to former during entire battle.
King So has the talent but he was intimated by octopus and he let it get to him. I haven't seen so much bad manner he didn't let King So do his thing at all.
all battles were nice to watch ! but what's wrong with the dj Dust? He killed the vibe everytime at each battles, bad transitions, and changed the song during a bboy set. seemed a bad day for him. Congrats to Octopus tho. Roo rocks !
same as C. Black, I commented on the Seoul cypher, no way Skim wins that without his crew being judges. Its like Lamine judging the main event always voting the French bboys, same here just always voting the crew bboy, Redbull BC One is a joke.
idk man... Round 1 King so Round 2 Octopus Round 3 Tie King so is Better at just dancing. Octopus.... skillful, but do you wanna see arm chairs every set???? I dont.
to the host sampson simpson...if i wasnt jamaycan vy i be wearing this hat...and for those that thought that king so...are you serious...he didn't do shit, just ran around, don't get me wrong octopussy didn't do shit either but he just did less shit than queen so so
I think octupus won regardless because he came thru with execution and energy. They both were out of moves tho. Tbh skim should've lost early in the seoul cypher, he got through too easily I mean wing and hong10 were voting for him every time
bboy Oc win ? why ? Octopus ended every set on an airchair, even before battles ... vs leon, vs roo.. i think kingso winer but judge is hong 10, wing and snake respect judge
Disappointing finals...both sides were lacking energy imo. Seemed like they ran out of moves. I like both bboys, but it seemed like they weren't even training to be at their best and be more creative/coming out with new moves. King So would have been a better pick to represent Korea for the BCone Asia finals imo. I honestly didn't want to see another Jinjo member reppin korea. :/
Octo did not win with in my eyes, I see king so moves didn't show any difficultly but yet he didn't repeat every damn set like octo and I like both bboys but this battle was full of shit
i really respect octopus but he's a loser in this battle 3 sets 3 air chairs in da finish always repeating the air chair but king so was clean and he killed da beat !
Put two judges that are in Jinjo/7 commandoz and then have two different members from jinjo compete in Seoul and Busan Cyper.... GENIUS
actually they had over 6 members compete. 4 made it to top 16 and 2 of those 4 won the cypher lol
Hong 10 isnt really in Jinjo. And Octopus was originally going to compete in Seoul cypher, but they closed the deadline prematurely than they should, because of overwhelming registrations. And Octopus missed the deadline to register for the Seoul cypher, so he registered for the Busan one instead
Sorry that those crews happen to be full of great bboys. That's why they deserve to judge or compete. If there's any clear collusion or favoritism, then say something, but loyalty to Hip-Hop should be greater than crew loyalty.
you are right. there clearly was favoritism
Octopus deserve this win. He was been so consistent and clean the entire competition
I don't know about this decision. .
Octopus did a air-chair every set at the end. King so had the foundations, originality, musicality, and flow like the Nile river yo. Plus, that footwork! He didn't repeat. Not even on a transition. . Jinjo Crew members won two spots to advance at Red Bull BC One Asia Pacific Qualifier. Hong 10 and Wing were judging both Seoul and Busan. That's isn't right for crew members to be judging, when their people are on the floor bro. I just don't feel right at all. Much respect for Octopus. Hope for the best of luck.. However, I just feel bad for King So. I'm going to study this battle and ask a Vet his opinion
I agree with you King took that. The only thing you're wrong about is that Hong10 isn't a crew member. He's not in any crews with octupus. He was a guest on jinjo for a few competitions but that's it
Kneefur I thought he change crews lol. Where the hell happen Drifterz Crew?
BBoyWize
no he never joined jinjo. He's still part of drifterz lol but he's decided to do more Red bull allstar stuff and go around to diff countries
Kneefur hong10 didn't "officially" join jinjo. However, he is very close with the crew itself (performed/battled together at R-16, BOTY, etc.), which in turn, may lead to a bias when it comes to judging.
Kang Nick
yea true. Jinjo crew had like 5 members get top 16 overall in seoul and busan cypher. definitely not all were seen fairly
King So flowed so well with the music, especially in that first set. Octopus ended every set with the same air chair. You can say King So repeated air flares but the first set he used it for a power combo and the second set he used it as a transition. I thought this should have been a clear win for King So. Also kind of unfair that Octopus got 2 members of Jinjo in the judging panel.
1 member of jinjo. I mean hong might be biased but still technically only 1
Both of them were running low on moves at this point. Yeah Octopus ended every set on an airchair, but his sets were pretty well executed. King So's last round was pretty basic which is why I think he lost
There's a lot of truth in those statements, especially about So getting a little generic and chasing obvious beats, but I think the airchair is always going to be one of Octopus's go-to moves. He has more variations than anyone I can readily bring to mind (even if it can get a little repetitive for some people), so it's a little hard for me to keep track of exactly what he's done by the end of a competition while still trying to keep an open mind for nuance. Hell, it was a great battle, so the judges had their work cut out for them.
Octo is proof that you can somehow do an airchair in every one of your sets and still win
Lol
I swear if they don't let king so advance to Asia Pacific Qualifiers.......
king so
King so WIN!!!
imo: round1 - King So / round2 - Octopus / round3 - Octopus
Es verdad :)
what's the meaning of imo?
i'm newbie..
GirlsGeneration1st "in my opinion"
Its funny how everyone is biassed towards air chair (not in a good way ) imo . A lot of b-boys can land into a baby or chair freeze more than once but you can't do it when it comes to air chair ? Like hong 10 did variations with his freeze and different ways to go into it , no one gave a shit , but when someone does different variation with air chairs and different ways to go into it , everyone loses their minds. Yes, i do agree that this battle is a bit biased but my statement here goes to all battles not just this one . It is just my opinion so please don't be offended :D If anyone can tell me a good reason i am wrong , i will be happy to accept my mistakes and move on :) . Oh btw I thought this battle was a tie cause king so is a bit to basic , even for him , and octopus has nice flow but repeats quite a bit .
true
EVERYONE gave Hong10 shit for spamming his trademark freeze. And rightfully so. Idk what you're talking about.
KoopaOviasu lol everyone ? well he did variations of the freeze and show different ways to go in and out of it . In the end legends like storm and poe one and even el nino voted for him to win . So I don't know what YOU are talking about .
Hell, for me, the floorwork of Octopus was way more impressive and surprising than his freezes. That's where I really thought he distanced himself from King So, who I thought had some nice high points and was very clean, but did have a few generic moments as well (basic textbook footwork on an obvious beat) which felt like filler for such otherwise strong rounds. Still, nothing but respect for both. Probably a harder qualifier than many of the regionals.
Bboyz Rice You can get shit for repeating freezes but still win battles, if you're opponent is sloppy enough. Getting voted to win is completely irrelevant to personal opinion on a bboy's moveset. So unless you've had personal conversations with Poe and Storm about what they think of Hong 10's moveset, I don't think you're in a position to use their opinions to your advantage.
Crazy how far Octopus has gotten though. This is the first major battle that I've seen him win on his own.
a bunch of idiots saying king so lost because he was being basic? so was octopus but he lacked way more and definitely not enough to beat king so....octopus even knew he lost to king so after the battle ended
King so!! Too good! He should've won!
kingso is the winner for me D:
King So!
i thing kingso winer =)
bboy stun hehe
I don't get it, King so clearly took that, I mean, even Octopus seemed uneasy, like he knew he lost.
definitely thought king so was one of the most deserving in the competition. leon too.. but he also lost to octopus.
whatd we learn? practice your airchairs guise
hmm they did repeat some of the moves, maybe octo won cause he got more blow ups and kingso didn't answer octo airchairs and threads.. well i do like kingso better than octo, but i think octo took this after kingso third round :)
I'm pretty 50-50 on this one. I think I would've edged it to Octopus but it really depends. Octopus definitely repeated more but I also think he was a bit cleaner. Both had good musicality. I imagine Octopus won at least partially just because Hong10 and Wing were judges.
first minute of the video can be cut. they are just standing
Was it really fair to put 2 judges from the same crew hong and wing crew mate of octopus in this event? So freaking biassed.
dang if King so had a stronger finishing move, he could've won no prob
anyone know the second song??
como ago para consegui unos beats de ese dj o comprarlos ?
What's the name of the first song ? :)
the way king so swings and waves his arms around when he toprocks is so funny to me
Name of 1st song? please :)
i think every move's octopus doing airchair and ? why still won ?
kingso is win
Why is everyone crying over Jinjo making history having the first two bboys from the same crew win their countries qualifier. And as for people saying they shouldn't let Jinjo compete, that's terrible advice bboys in the Korean scene should strive to get better not expect for the game to be changed an ban certain ppl from entering cyphers.
first song?
yeah there might be some bias among judges, but he got 3:0 score anyway. King So has better musicality and a lil bit more fluent by all rounds, and Octopus bring more various and technical sets. I think judge's decision reveals that they prefer latter to former during entire battle.
Name of first song?
PulseFlow BS 2000 - N.Y Is Good
r.i.p kingso and zoot
what's the first song?
Octo🔥🔥❤
As much as I love Jinjo, I think King So has a better chance at winning BC One than Octo
King So has the talent but he was intimated by octopus and he let it get to him. I haven't seen so much bad manner he didn't let King So do his thing at all.
support king so !!!!!!
all battles were nice to watch ! but what's wrong with the dj Dust? He killed the vibe everytime at each battles, bad transitions, and changed the song during a bboy set. seemed a bad day for him. Congrats to Octopus tho. Roo rocks !
Wtf?! I shouldnt exsp3ct this decision crazy
same as C. Black, I commented on the Seoul cypher, no way Skim wins that without his crew being judges. Its like Lamine judging the main event always voting the French bboys, same here just always voting the crew bboy, Redbull BC One is a joke.
이건 좀 아니다...
인맥빨로 이긴듯
idk man...
Round 1 King so
Round 2 Octopus
Round 3 Tie
King so is Better at just dancing.
Octopus.... skillful, but do you wanna see arm chairs every set???? I dont.
the battle start 1:33
you are welcome
KING SO WIN
KING SO WIN!
Well, in term of musicality King So is waaay better than Octopus
King So!!!!!!!!
Wow worst judge call next to Claws out .
Why...
skip to 1:30 to watch the actual battle!!!!
King so 가 아무리봐도 이긴거같은데...옥토퍼스는 짜여진 레파대로만 하고 전혀 음악하고 맞지도 않고....져지가 취향이 그래서인가...쫌 아닌거같구먼..
king so win
Yeah octopus!!!
octopus bm in third rd
although octo already lost for me when he fought leon lol
Red bull bc one Korea exclusive only for Jinjo lol.
to the host sampson simpson...if i wasnt jamaycan vy i be wearing this hat...and for those that thought that king so...are you serious...he didn't do shit, just ran around, don't get me wrong octopussy didn't do shit either but he just did less shit than queen so so
King So was tired...
octopus is good, but he crashed too often during the whole tournament.
adding on to that, kingso took this one hard.
I think octupus won regardless because he came thru with execution and energy. They both were out of moves tho. Tbh skim should've lost early in the seoul cypher, he got through too easily I mean wing and hong10 were voting for him every time
WHAT???OCTOPUS??ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
1 minute and 30 seconds of standing around is a bit disappointing...
bboy Oc win ? why ?
Octopus ended every set on an airchair, even before battles ... vs leon, vs roo..
i think kingso winer but judge is hong 10, wing and snake
respect judge
Robbed. I like Octopus but King So had that. Also King So would probably have a higher chance to win the final Qualifier
hell? ridiculous judges!
honestly this entire battle was pretty lackluster
kingso did a good job and better than oct.
octopusy origin chester man -..-
two turtles
Disappointing finals...both sides were lacking energy imo. Seemed like they ran out of moves. I like both bboys, but it seemed like they weren't even training to be at their best and be more creative/coming out with new moves. King So would have been a better pick to represent Korea for the BCone Asia finals imo. I honestly didn't want to see another Jinjo member reppin korea. :/
octopus clone thesis kkkkkkk
Octo did not win with in my eyes, I see king so moves didn't show any difficultly but yet he didn't repeat every damn set like octo and I like both bboys but this battle was full of shit
i really respect octopus but he's a loser in this battle 3 sets 3 air chairs in da finish always repeating the air chair but king so was clean and he killed da beat !
1st song?
Red bull bc one Korea exclusive only for Jinjo lol.