"Of all of the Byrd's songs that got constant radio airplay over the years this was one that they rarely played and it was one of my favorites and it still is."
And people say CSN were a great harmonies group. They were minor league compared to the extraordinary finished product of this recording and many many more. I don't know if Gene Clark was in the mix here or not. No matter, overdubbing or whatever, no one in that era or the next could match these guys for te blended vocal riches they offered up until Crosby's ill-advised departure.
One of several moments in the three plus years they mattered where The Byrds were a vehicle for showcasing the genius of David Crosby. And what a pittance of gratitude did he show in kind.
Who are you captain soul 1953? I was in a band called that in 1967, the guitarist, drummer was john, singer colin,bass billy and me also john. We played mainly Byrd's with hendrix, cream and other stuff. Happy memories of the witches coffee bar in Arcadia.
Really enjoyed this. This is by far the most frustrating of all the Byrds singles for me, because while the song choice is great-the Byrds were born to cover it-the mix, even on remasters, is so muddy, muted, and absolutely buried under strings that it never sounds good. This is probably the first time I've actually HEARD the song!
+James Burke the mono mix of this song is far superior to the modern remasters. the strings are balanced properly and compensated for by the punch of the guitar and the bass. Most stereo mixes pre-1968 are pretty awful. You can only polish a turd so much. Ideally one would make a new mix from session tapes but 60's tape keeping practices were also pretty terrible.
Cool! I do like the string parts, but they weren’t mixed tastefully in the stereo version. The mono mix was better, as someone has noted below. But it’s great to be able to hear everything the Byrds played and sang without the strings. Thanks for posting this. Now, if only someone would post just the vocal tracks for _Eight Miles High_ ...if such a thing exists. I’d love to hear that.
Could use the strings. But I like how the vocals are mixed better on this. On the original they are on a separate track. So, if you listen to the right speaker you only hear vocals, with an occasional string. Which is great if you want to hear an accapella version. But because of this the instruments are buried a little bit. This brings them out more.
This is better. Far better. And I can hear the guitar work too. But it's not a clean recording, and never was. And I don't any remix / remaster can fix it. Shame, because they worked like hell on these harmonies. You had to see them live. They just played, no fooling around, all business. Loved it.
Its crazy.. one of my favorites.
So many sub rythms goin on. The harmonies. It brings me peace.
This song and others make this one of my favorite 60s records.
"Of all of the Byrd's songs
that got constant radio
airplay over the years
this was one that they
rarely played and
it was one of my favorites
and it still is."
Totally agree.
This one is in my top ten Byrds tune.
And people say CSN were a great harmonies group. They were minor league compared to the extraordinary finished product of this recording and many many more. I don't know if Gene Clark was in the mix here or not. No matter, overdubbing or whatever, no one in that era or the next could match these guys for te blended vocal riches they offered up until Crosby's ill-advised departure.
@@rogermurray8553totally agreed, you couldn't have said it better.
you can really hear the genius of Crosby's harmonies.
I like the strings - this is good too
One of the Byrds' best. Dave Crosby's genius really shows on this track.
Hillman's bass line is terrific in this
MacFeeley It HAD TO be said
A lot of Hillman's bass work is outstanding.
He said he learned by listening to Paul Mccartney.
Your ears went exploring beyond the capabilities of most mortals. They readily admit Crosby's out of this world vocal is all they hear.
@@clarenzlarka that makes a lot of sense.
One of several moments in the three plus years they mattered where The Byrds were a vehicle for showcasing the genius of David Crosby. And what a pittance of gratitude did he show in kind.
Congrats...this with/without strings is The Best version I've heard here on TH-cam. Stereo definition is excellent. Thanks
Who are you captain soul 1953? I was in a band called that in 1967, the guitarist, drummer was john, singer colin,bass billy and me also john. We played mainly Byrd's with hendrix, cream and other stuff. Happy memories of the witches coffee bar in Arcadia.
Still in love with this song, after many years. . .
I remember these songs from youth, I realize now before the Monkees there was the Byrds, Hollywood Hacks. We,re always being played.
hmmm, y'think the boys from Fairport Convention were listening to Byrds much?
btw, thanks for presenting this and WMT without the strings.
Really enjoyed this. This is by far the most frustrating of all the Byrds singles for me, because while the song choice is great-the Byrds were born to cover it-the mix, even on remasters, is so muddy, muted, and absolutely buried under strings that it never sounds good. This is probably the first time I've actually HEARD the song!
+James Burke the mono mix of this song is far superior to the modern remasters. the strings are balanced properly and compensated for by the punch of the guitar and the bass.
Most stereo mixes pre-1968 are pretty awful. You can only polish a turd so much. Ideally one would make a new mix from session tapes but 60's tape keeping practices were also pretty terrible.
@tfmuch
Well i tried...........how about a version of 242 foxtrot without the vacuum cleaner and bleepy noises?....will post later
Jim
Cool! I do like the string parts, but they weren’t mixed tastefully in the stereo version. The mono mix was better, as someone has noted below. But it’s great to be able to hear everything the Byrds played and sang without the strings. Thanks for posting this.
Now, if only someone would post just the vocal tracks for _Eight Miles High_ ...if such a thing exists. I’d love to hear that.
Could use the strings. But I like how the vocals are mixed better on this.
On the original they are on a separate track. So, if you listen to the right speaker you only hear vocals, with an occasional string.
Which is great if you want to hear an accapella version.
But because of this the instruments are buried a little bit. This brings them out more.
Sounds like the ultra-chorused lead parts before the strings come in are also gone. Although they are so buried on the original it's hard to tell.
agreed--as in most things, better with no strings.
This is better. Far better. And I can hear the guitar work too. But it's not a clean recording, and never was. And I don't any remix / remaster can fix it. Shame, because they worked like hell on these harmonies. You had to see them live. They just played, no fooling around, all business. Loved it.
yep....and i recorded it twice...it was late...i was tired
Jim
Skips @ 2:26
Yes! Leave the strings out! Guitars carry this tune!!
I feel somehow that something is missing :-)
The EQ is overly bassy in my opinion.
Thank you for this. I've always disliked the overbearing strings.
Is this version available for purchase at iTunes or Amazon Music? I find this track, without strings, far superior to the album cut.
it's only available on a vinyl 10 inch double album from the Sundazed label
+captainsoul1953
Thanx captain...I appreciate your reply. Peace... ♐
Nice try, Jim, but listening to it twice still isn't enough to delete the orchestration in my head.
What is "Another Dimension?"
Album with alternate versions/mixes of 5D tunes.
Does Gene Clark sing on this?
No.