Why Zuma should not have been President
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- Former National Director of Public Prosecutions Bulelani Ngcuka shares his thoughts on the work of the NPA and why Jacob Zuma should not have been President. He was speaking to Xoli Mngambi on Newsfeed AM.
how fitting this interview in terms of what is currently happening
right? it brings so much into context
The npa could foresee that the ANC was totally , with both feet , involved with the Gupta and money laundery was coming in all direction ,, and there couldn't secure witness protection because of mostly , it involved high profile , ANC office bearers ..
let us leave politics to the best ,i respect you Mr Ngcuka and u explain these things very well ,those with eyes and ears truly understand what you saying
You just display your naivety and ignorance. Lleaving politics to the politicians is the reason for the very corruption that we are experiencing. Are you that biased (simple) that you cannot use your intellect and morality to decide what is best for the country? Obviously not - which is why you voted for Zuma.
@@argentnexus7129 Your vote doesnt change shit, Mandla is correct, they are in it to eat like u are in ur job to eat, they are not studying politics and political parties to save us eh
Bhuti Mandla, best observation. I have a Revolutionary Love for this Comrade Adv. Bulelani Ngcuka who made His call of duty a most Professional one and made the NPA a most operational Directorate within the State of RSA. I Salute the view you share too, my Leader 🇿🇦🤜
@@did.it.myself9022😮
Bulelani is always in his full senses when dealing with state related matters. He new his work well and able to balance politics with prosecution . Well done Bulelani .You bet well when you were on the crease.
My favorite Advocate Bulelani Ngcuka
Great man Mr Bulelani Ngcuka
Very credential legal guru! Adv Ncquka is one of the legal persons i admire most...i remember watching this moment with Mxolisi in the lead.
The justice system is biased. There is a law for the rich and separated law for the poor. We are not equal before the law then.
absolutely correct,we having a worst and worst Justice.
Thats universal. If u're rich, u can pay your way out of almost anything. Even fake your death and go live your rich life in the middle of nowhere.
Indeed, if you have the funds all you need is a good law representative and then you home and dry.
@@thabangmotaung4759 absolutely correct, we having a useless justice in South Africa,thugs like Zuma,Magashule excetra excetra suppose to Rot in Jail,unfortunately our justice are just worthless.
@@lindilemgqobele4337 Oscar was also home and dry ,the 1st verdict was 5 years Culpable homicide, however a normal citizen would have been sentenced to life imprisonment.
Thank you for this interview. It answered a lot of questions some of us have been pondering for years
Membership of the ANC is not about cards,"what a powerful statement"
How the stature of our African leaders have fallen. From the freedom fighter Nkrumah to the corrupt Zuma how far our state of affairs have fallen.
I think, that you should check -out: Fred Swaniker.
Very good journalism and an interesting interview
Agreed Gareth.
Thanks Adv Bulelani Ngcuka. SIYABULELA MHLEKAZI. SIYABONGA. 👍 👌 Congratulations 🎊 👏 💐
In your mind and your heart don't you feel that you have what it takes to be a suitable replacement for Judge President?
To the Presenter, what a great interview 👏
Indeed, the respected and honorable Advocate is 💯 % correct that if the NPA did their part to earn their keep, the Zondo Commission was definitely not necessary. A billion rand later NOTHING IS DONE. The Judge President, called for prosecutions and got vilified by criminals and corrupt cadres of the ANC.
Shamelessly SHAMILA ignores her job but proudly spends the Taxpayers hard earned money. 😢
SHAMILA is warming her seat shamelessly and with " dignity and pride", she and her unqualified gang are enjoying their salaries when the country is bleeding.
Some people have no integrity, and no pride.
What a sad day in SA
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Well said Advocate Bulelani Nqcuka
Bulelani ❤ thanks for your information
Bulelani is a genius
Sharp mind and sincere man! Bless you sir...🙏
An intelligent man and a valuable asset the country needs
Intelligent man indeed
GREAT CONVERSATION .....
It is true what Ngcuka is saying, prosecution without clear evidence is fatal to a prosecutor's career especially when the prosecution is against a high public figure.
Xoli, thank you again for delivering this kind of videos to the people, as always where you reveal critical issues where the community ends up not trusting and believing in our judiciary law and the government and the judiciary institutions anymore. As they are denied, literally by the government to do what they know and believe in, as they are always threaten by those who are in the Parliament above them in so many ways, even if the evidence clearly shows that. The bad thing is that our future generations are going to realise that, pursuing those kinds of professions it doesn't work anymore,as they will have to be forced to do as they are told, instead of doing the right things they've been told by their tutors. As only that, shows how much will almost every person will be living like puppet, as there is no government including law anymore. Which i can conclude by saying, there has never been a law in our country, as we now hope that the EFF party is going to over turn all that, because that is the hope to each and every South African citizen.
Whoever writes these TH-cam titles should start a blog and a channel and an NGO because where in this interview was this said? Hai man sukani with your activist journalism
You, sir make a very valid point!!
I read the title, then I looked at how long the video was, and immediately I thought, that's not long enough?
Jacob Zuma was the President of South Africa Period .Your Obsession for Jacob is Annoying .you have been talking about Zuma for more done ten years now you come with excuses for lack of performance full of nonsense
True
True you yourself is full of nonsense and shit too.....here a man was going to be persecuted without evidence and be destroyed for who knows what......ungazosinyela la.
This is a very strong man Mr. Ngcuka. U got my respect 👊
You people see and want every day any other day you ask someone to be a president
Ngcuka says there was no evidence and even now he doesn't know what evidence they have now but he is still involved in the case.
Seriously? Please listen to him again. Not enough evidence to win the case and having no evidence are too different things. You cannot bring a person in court unless you have enough evidence to secure a conviction. Even a person guilty of murder can walk free if the evidence is not enough. That does not mean they are innocent. Of course he's part of this case. Not as an investigator!!! As a person who'se name is FOREVER LINKED to this case!!!
@@RadientZAR5749 Thami is an idiot 🙄🤦
I picked that line too
Bulelani indoda emela iqiniso ngyabonga mina ngokuzwa lendaba bengingayazi
What former NPA Boss is telling us the public, is that our status when it comes to prosecution play in favour...he must admit he played foul, it clearly shows if it was anybody he would've been arrested right there, but some won't be arrested. ZA judicial system for you
today we are paying the price of uncalculated moves by the judiciary.
Exactly
I thought concrete evidence is the focal of prosecution, regardless of the citizen status of a person.
You thought right. He did say he did not have such evidence at the time.
not having enough evidence doesn't mean Zuma is innocent, but is professional of the NPA to want to have a substantial evidence before bringing someone like President Zuma to court, we are all the same before the law yes but it would be irresponsible if not knave of us to thing that any ex president or billionaire is equal to any common South African Citizen
Emotionally games on us now.
Whoever owns Newzroom and ENCA wants Zuma in Jail so bad... it’s disgusting. 🚮
The man keep repeating himself that he had no good evidence to prosecute Zuma but the Anchor is trying to impose the narrative of “ fear or favor “
Xoli you should be ashamed of yourself
I agree with you
They are trying so hard and theres nothing tangible
In such interviews I really miss Mr Xolani Gwala. I’m sure we would have watched a different conversation.
So basically u called editor's and u asked to right positive stories about u ? Malema is right there is no free press here but invisible politicians
Mr Ngcuka asked the editors to investigate and if there is any negative findings must be put on a public domain
Listing is a skill Mandla, you are not a bright person, shut up
your ears are in the dust bin. go and collect them
This country has sooooo many problems to face but you are taking about the man for more then 15 years there's loadsheading,lockdowns,etc but still you talking about one man,before he was president you where talking,then he became president,you still talked and now he's retired you still talking....cicici when are we talking about the real issues we're facing as a country
Here's your man. He has my respect and admiration
That's true Cyral is the best thing ever we had to save our country 💯
That's my uncle I'm Ayabulela Ngcuka
So what if he is your uncle!!
Ntswembu le ngwenya
Great interview
Thank you Newsroom Afrika for your robust and provocative journalism that is embedded to a cardinal of transparency without fear, favour and prejudice. From where I'm sitting I'm very much satisfied with your work and you are the best.
Very sharp mind ,I like the way he gave answers to the questions asked .
We really need Advocates like you Bulelani , you really done a good good job during your tenure in your office .
Lovely story on how msholizi was gifted to South Africa. And created he's lovely mindset of being above the law.
Msholozi, not Msholizi Slima
Adv. Ngcuka is an honest man in did
He sold he soul to zuma.
Not only the NPA was not doing its job, also Parliament was not playing its oversight role. There was just no government during the Fifth Administration.
Most intelligent President in RSA....
@@lindokuhlemthembu3015 SA is swimming in a pool of debt because of corruption.
Corruption begins since Madiba took the office
@@lindokuhlemthembu3015 Corruption was worse during apartheid. The difference is, since the Europeans as Whites used to call themselves, did not consider Africa as their home, they were taking resources out of SA to their home countries. Hence there were no checks and balances until Audit laws were enacted in1998. While it was understandable for Europeans to be corrupt with impunity, it surely shocks for Africans who claim patriotism but still subject people of this country to the same sufferings they were subjected to by White Supremacists. Unlawful personal enrichment can never be part of the revolution in One's home country.
Do we have government in this administration?
"Cyril is the best that we have" That says a lot about the NPA.
These people are waiting our resources because we need jobs but they are busy with useless commissions using money that is needed by SA
that caption of this broadcast, nxa niyahlanya nina. Wawufuna kube wuRamaphosa noDe Klark yini?
So you have the capability of posting fast 🤔
The interview with Mr Ngcuka was quite enlightening about some issues in the prosecution space from the time he was heading NPA todate. Thanks to Xoli and Mr Ngcuka for such a well conducted interview.
Zondo did friction about that and he continues doing it targeting zuma only
Im not from SA but Zuma was an anointed president.U can say all theories but it can not change anything.People can still vote him back.
The man who almost sold South Africa to the highest bidder, u call him anointed. If u knew when we count presidents of South Africa some of us don’t even count him in bcz of the damaged he caused in SA. So plz stay in yo lane don’t comment of South African issues m not saying others r perfect Bt he was the worse person ever for SA. This is now a South African speaking u know nothing so comment on yo Zim issues or whr ever u cum from.
U must be crazy
Why upload this after a week? Why must we complain 1st before doing the right thing
Yes u said u received your fair share while we as Mzansi citizens never received any share at all instead we left in house of arrest today our hope to fair freedom Mr Mhlanganyelwa Zuma can't practice his rights due to failure of NPA as noticed currently in court Zuma vs IEC NPA failed to answer judges with clearly & simple that have resulted to spend time in court unnecessarily as laymen which directions we have to go this why we should lose hope to R1bn president who known as A Spy of Apartheid as Lekota stated in parliament where today IEC & Spy president say that Zuma can't be there obviously it a ground of corruption Zuma have to dismissed to leberateTha Mzansi citizens
The problem of seniors in this country; who are all confident, powerful and comfortable with the system that isn't working for the country or at very least the majority of the people in this country, is not just big but permanent. These people are victims of a system that reduced them to animals then later became their friends and lovers(dandy). That resulted in them thinking that only them knows better for this country and we are here because of them. They won't even question their current and past decisions they have taken because being wrong isn't their strength.
My opinion is that we have law that fears the media because they don't based their facts on truth but evidence. Sadly evidence is just material
Unfortunately, everything you wrote here is the truth, which begs the question that most of the time crosses my mind but seems to be foreign to our leaders, which is, do we as citizens think we are more special than other African countries that met their downfall because of the reasons you stated above?
Because sometimes,it would seem, from our way for example,of making everything a joke that we think we'll never be a Zimbabwe, Ghana or DRC just to mention a few.
"I didnt believe that he had the competency for the office". Absolutely priceless.
Great work tholi
Even now he is doing his best to support Ramaphosa , they don't say anything about Phalaphala. The only man they are looking for is Zuma. Wow South Africans 😮 can't even hide their hatred.
We got to deal with corrupt politicians decisively.
WHATHappens IF THERE IS NO new evidence .......?
We lost a true leader here...
powerful legal mind indeed ................his views are reasonable
The hate most of the high profile politicians have for Mr Zuma is really concerning. They hate the wrong person and love the real dangerous people that they should hate. If I may ask just simple question: if it is really that black people in South Africa prior 1994 were not given opportunity like the other races, how did other black politicians became billionaires just in 6 years after 1994? Mr Kaizer Motaung who started to have a business of marketing and football club in 1970 is not yet a billionaire but none millionaire prior 1994 were already billionaires in year 2000. Those are the real evil people who were very corrupt. I hope Mr Ngcuka(my oompie, because He is married by my aunt Mrs Phumzile Mlambo Ngcuka) have followed those leads and investigated all the SA Mafia's who are untouchable even to date. As much as most people respect the guy and call him the powerful Man but He failed to recognise Zuma as right candidate for the position but we are in BRICS because of his efforts. I don't know whether they hated Zuma because they knew that He was going to definitely change this capitalism to communism for good. Our politics here in this world is very painful because it waste our time by feeding us with a propaganda to hate few innocent guys while the real state capture is happening every day by untouchable big fish. We are busy focus on minor issues while we don't even putting in debate the issue of the land ownership, minerals rights. If I may ask who owns gold,coal, platinum, wines , broadcast,food chains, farming and Diamonds rights in SA? no one knows but busy focusing on issues which don't even help us in any way than remaining the food of the ears and time buying while the real staff is being stolen under our watch.
On credibility; "As far as I know now..." a few seconds later "Yes! The NPA has been compromised in recent years" Advocate confuses me with 😂😂😂😂
You are a slow learner dude
@@MrSihle1 this thing of seeing other people stupid if they don't agree with your view reveals your ignorance
Zondo is not a criminal investigation but is a judge,so he judge zuma how was the investgater becuse judgement is coming after investigating
For seeing Ramaphosa as the best thing we have says a lot about you.
It says a lot my brother
The country nearly collapsed.Thanx for intervening timeously.
This headline is sensational. It is very misleading
It proves the agenda they have against Zuma, bias media at it’s best🌚😓
Put shaik back in jail. His medical parole is a joke.
He has a terminal disease! Life is terminal!
With all said, but the truth stand, Zuma was the greatest president we ever had in South Africa!
Adv. Ncuka played political games and his side lost. The ANC’s internal politics have completely ruined the country. Don’t blame Zuma.
Out of all the components I've red this is the most wisest of them all...
U were coming along very well and then u completely missed the goal posts, when u said "Dont blame Zuma"...
What has this interview to do with Why Zuma should not have become President!
By now TH-cam subscription has doubled since Xoli joined Newsroom Afrika. One of the best yet. You can see Mr Ngcuka's feelings about Zuma are reciprocal in kind and time has proved Mr Ngcuka correct. The pillage is for all to see and yet we ignored the signs. People voted for Zuma egged on by Helen Zille.
You are an ANC member. Why should you prosecute Zuma? You had evidence. You admit thinking of the impact. You protected Zuma. Finish and klaar.
which ppl?Pplease vote for the organization not the president.Go learn politics.
@@djcumfy_2297Your unsolicited recommendation is not required here by default.
The Executive cannot alter the the sentence itself. Remission cannot detract from the quantum
Brilliant interview. Thank you!
and now, the country burns to death
Why is he asking us to support Cyril? What has he done since he took office and what good change has he done despite showing unemployment a good 👍 when it's growing daily
I hate cyril
Bezoyithathaphi imali ingekho yemnka ne Guptas
If I was Ngcuka and other NPA Directors I will be ashamed of myself. Nobody can defeat time. Now it is an open secret that evidence available suggest that there were many big "'holy cows'' involved in this "'Armsdeal Corruption."' Ngcuka decided to focus on "'Zulu Boy"' .I suspect Schabir caught fire but he was not the main target. Now do you expect "'Zulu boys"' to keep on respecting this "'state"'?Is this how the state earn respect or it . hope on force ? Ngcuka simply focus on "'Zulu boy"'.He abuse state resources to help his partner and others who wanted "'THIRD TERM"" at all cost. In a normal democratic state with a fair and just criminal justice system Ngcuka was going to be charged also. We are where we are because of Ngcuka. He had a chance to end "'corruption "' once and for all when this armsdeal corruption was expose instead he pursued personal interest. We may even descend to"" New New South Africa "' or "'New New New New South Africa "'because of abuse of state resources. This interview is embarrassing.We call this a democratic state? Personally,Ngcuka said it all about this state. They are not suppose to be in power. Listen to this interview again. If you focus on "'Zulu Boy"' you miss damning information about this state and ruling party. I have lost hope after listening again.Other NPA directors are no better than Ngcuka. One day they must account about armsdeal.
Zuma and his associates caused this country enormous damage and currently,with the state of lawlessness and looting following his incarceration,the losses to our economy are continuing.
It’s was the whole ANC since 1998
AM NOT CLEAR, WHO ARE ZUMAS ASSOCIATES YOU MEAN THE GUPTAS OR HIS ETHNIC ZULUS SUPPORTERS?
Joan you are confused and probably you were listening to this interview
@@Seggy1998 both
Ooooooh, I don’t trust this one.
He had been the president of the Republic of south Africa for almost eight years (two terms), not one term. Even Malema said it was an error of judgement, for two terms. Maybe you were incompetent, I'm not sure
for the whole 8 years all of them were drunk from the day they took that decision till they went to the second conference and they gave him the second term!Yeah right.
Structures which are deemed to be unjust and unfair does not last long. ANC is need miracle to survive because their structures are regarded as micky mouse or Kangaroo. If we are not everything will be solved by physical confrontation.
then Zuma is innocent
These fools they forgot talking about the land but one thing only attacking each other with so much resources that can help the poor majority
Mr Nguka is very much self contradicting in his answers and I would love you to play this interview to him if he will give you the same answers he gave in this interview
He still looks good and strong.
Otherwise thanks Xoli for an interview that helped answer the many questions.
41:56 mr ngcuka u served very well with his excellence thabo mbeki.we miss u alot.
President Ramaphosa is the best that we have, people should support him as mentioned by Bulelani Ngcuka.
His logic still doesn't make sense 16 years later, and it never will.
Prima facie evidence, but the case would not be winnable because the evidence was curcumstancial.
If you understood the word prima facie, you wouldn't be making a noise
What a misleading title for an otherwise good interview. Shame on you.
Xoli Mgambi Jealous Down I respect You Sir
"people that were exposed to us" 👌
So even in this guy's day the "Bell Pottinger BS" was being used to spread BS
Wtf u on about
Okay fast forward to year 2024 . Few more weeks before the elections and are we still seeing things this way/agree with some of the things said here?
he speaks like Mbeki..
Brilliant man indeed.........but I don't agree with him when he said we must support Mr Phalaphala.
Crystall clear former NPA Head…
Prosecuting Zuma = prosecuting South Africa? Let justice be done though the heavens may fall
🤣🤣🤣stop what ever that your smoking.
❤❤❤ good i love that forward with CR!!!¡
Prosecution of the despised has become a soapie in South Africa. It's like days of our lives. It's boring and useless
Newsroom is a branch of CNN
The man did well out shining all ANC presidents hatred is a stupid animal😅😅
Shamila Bathoi will be considered incompetent if she does not have strong evidence against Zuma and goes ahead with the case and fails dismally.
It will be a case of yet another woman being used by men in their political games.
They have evidence. If they didn't, Zuma was gonna attend case quietly
No one is above the law even Zuma him self he need to rot in hell
We study the same Law. There’s no Law that should be interpreted by Bulelani differently.