Hi everyone, I made a minor mistake, I said that Marcion's Paul never said he was a Pharisee and a Benjamite but he actually does. I misremembered my argument slightly, I meant to state that the canonical redactors wanted to capitalize on Paul claiming he was a Benjamite and a Pharisee to rewrite 2nd Corinthians to further parallel Paul to the Old Testament King Saul and King David when they put his flight from King Aretas into 2nd Corinthians.
You can separate the historic Jesus from the Image of the Invisible God. The historic Jesus was a man called Jesus Ben Panther, he was a sorcerer who lived in Egypt until he was 30. The Apostles were a Christian invention, but in witchcraft, the position of a coven master and 12 members has been done since ancient times. Everything the Talmud says about Jesus is true. He lead a band of 4000 assassins into the wilderness, he tried to become the Emperor of Rome, and he tried to Overthrow Jerusalem. Read Lena Einhorns article called Jesus and the Egyptian. You can appreciate Jesus the deity, while not liking Jesus the man. Listen, this is the ultimate Gnostic Truth. At the highest level of reality, there is only God. What would you do if you were alone in an eternal void of nothingness? You would go to sleep and dream whole worlds into being. Adam is actually symbolic of God, he goes to sleep. It is not good for God or Adam to be alone, so he rests on the 7th day, and creates all of us. Eve was taken out of Adam, but the Bible never says he woke up. Lillith, his first wife, was NOT taken out of Adam and is rebellious. So when the dream ends, and the sleeping god awakens, the children of Eve are saved, being rooted in the dreaming God, but the children of lillith, the tares, were never real to begin with. They are just nightmares. This is why Gospel of Thomas says "The living do not die and the dead are not alive. Heaven will pass away and whoever is living from the living one will not taste death." The whole thing is about being right with God. IF this theory of Cosmic Dissolution is true, of course.
Jesus is the Serpent. His real name is Yaldabaoth, which is Yhwh El DA (African word for Serpent) BA (Egyptian Soul that persists after death) Thoth. It's one of those combined freemason words like Jahbulon. 7858 gives us the letters YHWH, GZEZ, and PQNQ. So Yahweh, Becomes Jesus, and then becomes a Picnic of his Forbidden Fruit Eucharist, because he is the Serpent in the Garden of Eden that Shiva wears around his neck. Shiva therefore is the tree of knowledge, pole of Moses, and the Cross of Christ. He uses the Serpent to Churn the cosmic ocean for 1000 years, and this results in the flood of Noah which is really the universe being reset. So the flood began when Adam fell in Eden and manifested 1000 years later. It began again in 33AD, and phantom time, the letter I for Iesous become 1, so that 1981 is I 981, so the universe will end in 2033 AD. Noahs Ark was the Wooden Cube of Gilgamesh, the New Jerusalem, and my 7 thunders codes are how it is built, they are secret of PTAH the architect. Sure I Can open the door with the 4 RKYD Royal Key of David, from my 7 thunders codes, but where it leads is creation, back in time probably, because in most cultures, Creation BEGAN with the primordial flood of Noah. When Babylon falls, everyone is sent back to their own lands. The whole Sumerian culture came into being out of nowhere.
I don't understand why the name "Jesus" is taken for granted. It is very possible that name was used to meet expectations and supposed prophecies, along with fictional genealogies and birthplaces. The fact "Jesus" was a common name doesn't weigh on one side or the other of that issue. It was a common name BECAUSE OF its scriptural antecedents.
Or the "James" attacked in 36 was killed by Saul and the whole story of Jesus's crucifixion and resurrection was an attempt by Saul to create a false narrative to evade punishment for this attack. Paul speaking "While I was at a stoning it was not James, it was some guy named Stephen, and I did not throw any stones. When this fails to impress his accusers his story changes to this James you're talking about was called Jesus and was crucified by the Romans and even if I did everything you say, this James, or "Jesus" was seen three days later by hundreds of people so I'm not guilty of murder." Shalom
I think that is extremely far fetched and I do not buy that, especially since pseudo-Dorotheus of Tyre attests to James being killed shortly after the attack in 36 CE as I have mentioned in the past. It is difficult for me to believe it's the same exact James mentioned by Josephus for that reason among others.
@@History-Valley Can you further refine this reference Jacob? "pseudo-Dorotheus of Tyre attests to James being killed shortly after the attack in 36 CE" Thanks
I don't know why you think that questioning the TF and Q affects mythicism. It is some historicists who claim that TF and Q support historicity, and it was other historicists who started questioning TF and Q.
Appreciate it if more credits/citations were given to the sources of ideas about Marcion's scriptures and their relationship to canonical scriptures. Insights from our team's research, publications, and previous episodes (here, on MV, and Patristica) were repeated ad nauseum with almost no mention of the sources of these ideas. This is inconsistent with academic honesty and could be misleading to viewers.
Hi everyone, I made a minor mistake, I said that Marcion's Paul never said he was a Pharisee and a Benjamite but he actually does. I misremembered my argument slightly, I meant to state that the canonical redactors wanted to capitalize on Paul claiming he was a Benjamite and a Pharisee to rewrite 2nd Corinthians to further parallel Paul to the Old Testament King Saul and King David when they put his flight from King Aretas into 2nd Corinthians.
You can separate the historic Jesus from the Image of the Invisible God. The historic Jesus was a man called Jesus Ben Panther, he was a sorcerer who lived in Egypt until he was 30. The Apostles were a Christian invention, but in witchcraft, the position of a coven master and 12 members has been done since ancient times. Everything the Talmud says about Jesus is true. He lead a band of 4000 assassins into the wilderness, he tried to become the Emperor of Rome, and he tried to Overthrow Jerusalem. Read Lena Einhorns article called Jesus and the Egyptian. You can appreciate Jesus the deity, while not liking Jesus the man.
Listen, this is the ultimate Gnostic Truth. At the highest level of reality, there is only God. What would you do if you were alone in an eternal void of nothingness? You would go to sleep and dream whole worlds into being.
Adam is actually symbolic of God, he goes to sleep. It is not good for God or Adam to be alone, so he rests on the 7th day, and creates all of us. Eve was taken out of Adam, but the Bible never says he woke up. Lillith, his first wife, was NOT taken out of Adam and is rebellious. So when the dream ends, and the sleeping god awakens, the children of Eve are saved, being rooted in the dreaming God, but the children of lillith, the tares, were never real to begin with. They are just nightmares. This is why Gospel of Thomas says "The living do not die and the dead are not alive. Heaven will pass away and whoever is living from the living one will not taste death." The whole thing is about being right with God. IF this theory of Cosmic Dissolution is true, of course.
Jesus is the Serpent. His real name is Yaldabaoth, which is Yhwh El DA (African word for Serpent) BA (Egyptian Soul that persists after death) Thoth. It's one of those combined freemason words like Jahbulon. 7858 gives us the letters YHWH, GZEZ, and PQNQ. So Yahweh, Becomes Jesus, and then becomes a Picnic of his Forbidden Fruit Eucharist, because he is the Serpent in the Garden of Eden that Shiva wears around his neck.
Shiva therefore is the tree of knowledge, pole of Moses, and the Cross of Christ. He uses the Serpent to Churn the cosmic ocean for 1000 years, and this results in the flood of Noah which is really the universe being reset. So the flood began when Adam fell in Eden and manifested 1000 years later. It began again in 33AD, and phantom time, the letter I for Iesous become 1, so that 1981 is I 981, so the universe will end in 2033 AD. Noahs Ark was the Wooden Cube of Gilgamesh, the New Jerusalem, and my 7 thunders codes are how it is built, they are secret of PTAH the architect. Sure I Can open the door with the 4 RKYD Royal Key of David, from my 7 thunders codes, but where it leads is creation, back in time probably, because in most cultures, Creation BEGAN with the primordial flood of Noah.
When Babylon falls, everyone is sent back to their own lands. The whole Sumerian culture came into being out of nowhere.
You work so hard, you bring out videos everyday. It helps me to relax.
Your allowed to make a mistake.
(sorry if i was harsh before)
Thank you 🙏. Awesome conversation. Enjoyed your stream. Blessings 🙏
There was a guy called Harry Potter in my school in the 1960s, common name. This means that Harry Potter the wizard is a real person.
Where can I contact you directly Jacob?
I don't understand why the name "Jesus" is taken for granted. It is very possible that name was used to meet expectations and supposed prophecies, along with fictional genealogies and birthplaces. The fact "Jesus" was a common name doesn't weigh on one side or the other of that issue. It was a common name BECAUSE OF its scriptural antecedents.
The same James could be attacked twice - once before 36CE, and survived, and the second in 63CE or thenabouts, which killed him
Or the "James" attacked in 36 was killed by Saul and the whole story of Jesus's crucifixion and resurrection was an attempt by Saul to create a false narrative to evade punishment for this attack.
Paul speaking "While I was at a stoning it was not James, it was some guy named Stephen, and I did not throw any stones. When this fails to impress his accusers his story changes to this James you're talking about was called Jesus and was crucified by the Romans and even if I did everything you say, this James, or "Jesus" was seen three days later by hundreds of people so I'm not guilty of murder."
Shalom
I think that is extremely far fetched and I do not buy that, especially since pseudo-Dorotheus of Tyre attests to James being killed shortly after the attack in 36 CE as I have mentioned in the past. It is difficult for me to believe it's the same exact James mentioned by Josephus for that reason among others.
@@History-Valley Can you further refine this reference Jacob? "pseudo-Dorotheus of Tyre attests to James being killed shortly after the attack in 36 CE"
Thanks
I don't know why you think that questioning the TF and Q affects mythicism. It is some historicists who claim that TF and Q support historicity, and it was other historicists who started questioning TF and Q.
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Yeshua is not a common name unless you consider 4% common.
Appreciate it if more credits/citations were given to the sources of ideas about Marcion's scriptures and their relationship to canonical scriptures. Insights from our team's research, publications, and previous episodes (here, on MV, and Patristica) were repeated ad nauseum with almost no mention of the sources of these ideas. This is inconsistent with academic honesty and could be misleading to viewers.