Part two of our home build c64 and there's a new case, new chips and an exclusive giveaway too!
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- It's time for our new Commodore 64 to get some new roms and a shiny new case! This episode has been sponsored by our good friends at PCBWay.com - Check out their website for all your PCB fabrication needs. pcbway.com - PCBs for as little as $5!
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I mention in the video that the keyboard cable wasn't long enough - this should only be a problem if you're fitting some c64c keyboards to mainboards with the connector in the top left of the mainboard. Some c64c's had very short keyboard cables. Your mileage may vary!
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I mention in the video that the keyboard cable wasn't long enough for this board - this should only be a problem if you're fitting some c64c keyboards to mainboards with the connector in the top left. Some c64c's had short keyboard cables. Your mileage may vary!
I'm making a replacement 6526 and 6510. Both use a STM32 (like the ARMSID). The 6510 uses the 6502 T state emulator I wrote and used for Pi1541. The replacement 6510 PCB has a SD card that can contain ROMs so the ROMs on the 64's motherboard can remain unpopulated. The 6526 project has a version where it can replace both for the 64 motherboard revisions that have them side by side. I will let you know when I am ready for public testing. #buildac64
That’s fantastic Stephen - I want the scoop! :)
That is awesome!!
Individual Computer, also Germany, produces C64C cases from original Commodore moulds, also in clear.
There is also the Mechboard 64, a quite expensive new keyboard. There were several projects to reproduce the keycaps, but currently none seems to be active.
Makes 1984 not seem so far away!! C64 was my first computer, Atari 2600/7800 not withstanding!! Mom bought the whole setup from Sears, including 2 - 1541 disk drives and a stand alone color monitor (the monitor lasted me into the Sega Genesis/Nintendo/PS1 era of gaming)… the great old days!!
Thanks for letting me relive and remember those glory days with your channel!! Such a great place!!
Black and gold looks fantastic. Absolutely checking out plexilaser for my homebrew build. Nice work. #buildac64
Hey! You're here? I was thinking about your computer too. Would be cool to build a case for it.
@@lockymcgee6525 I've been thinking about it. Backplane makes it a bit tricky.
For anyone following along, 901227-03 is the latest kernal. The 901227-02 file pointed to @5:59 has severe colour bugs within the kernal screen editor.
You will see @6:10 that our host is actually using the preferred 901227-03 kernal file.
Very interesting watch, certainly I would find myself spending many hours building a unit, how much I would end up using it afterwards is debatable but wouldn't be for lack of wanting
Well sure. I know what you are thinking. My SixtyClone is in its box, and I rarely use it. But then it will last longer. I only have to power it on two times a year. But it is awesomme to me, because I build it.
I really want this C64 PCB. I want to start collecting old computers and making soldering projects and this looks a great way to start both goals.
Well what more can be said? This machine is simply stunning visually and technically. A masterpiece on a modern take of a retro machine. Bravo.
I think this is my favourite thing you've done. Looking forward to seeing how far you can take the 'newness' over time. Gotta get a nice new mechanical keyboard for a start! #buildac64
You could de-pin the keyboard connector, then solder new wires in whilst replacing the original connector pins
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Thank you, you’ve helped me pick my uni electronics project
Glad I could help!
A small notice. I don't know, but those pin headers have two different sides. One side is thicker and the other side is thinner and longer. I always thought, the thicker side should be soldered so that the long-thin side goes down into the other sockets. That way, they even fit precision/round sockets without stretching them and they go all the way in. But, I may be misinformed.
I have a case like this in clear acrylic for my build, had the same idea of not wanting to hide the pcb.
Not finished yet though, but have bought som NOS MOS and new parts were possible. (Really hope I haven’t done any wrong connections since I am a noob in troubleshooting electronics)
I think ideally make sure the KB extension is black and can be neatly kept at the side with the two meeting underneath/hidden beneath the KB. #BUILDAC64
I like keeping things "Stock" (I drive a MX1 MX5 with it's original tape player) but I like that case a lot!
I'm not usually a fan of clear cases but that one looks pretty sweet.
I'm not convinced with the result, but I like that options like this exist and I totally get why you'd want to show off your work. Can you route the keyboard cable underneath or something to make it cleaner?
Love your channel !! .... first computer I ever saw was a ZX81 .... my first computers were Casio PB-100, Atari 400, Comodore 64, Casio PB-1000, Sinclair Ql ..... they good old days
Wooow!!!! This is so cool!!!! Brilliant vidéo 😃😃😃😃 You should find a small snake cable to hide the adapter.
You could always put it in one of those hermetically sealed see through cases they use in maternity ward for premature babies and use it. You know those cases that have the holes with the gloves attached to them that you can us for your hands?
Outside of that, I really can't think of any anti-static solutions (unless Gorilla Glass has anti-static properties)
I’ve only just come across this channel as I’m used to watching Perifractics C64 builds.
I never had a C64 as I went from Dragon 32 to BBC B, but that looks so cool 😎.
Likewise - although it took me over 30 years to get the BBC ;) lockdown was just such temptation to get one
@@julianbrown1331 literally gave mine away about 20 years ago. So wish I had it now though
What a legendary computer the C64 is that has so huge fanbase and community after all these years. And there are people who still build C64s at home! No kidding! :) #buildac64
The C-64 was and still is my "holy grail" retro system. Back in the day I had a friend with one and I was always amazed at the cool things he could do with it, the great graphics and amazing sound that I couldn't do with my Apple II. I am so glad that so many modern solutions exist that help make using and maintaining these retro systems so much easier, and am thankful to all of the creators that make these things possible. #BuildAC64
I love the form factor of those early home computers. Why there isn't somebody making a low powered PC to fit that style of case is a mystery to me. Sure the PSU would probably have to be external and yes it would probably be best suited to Ryzen integrated graphics but what the hell. It would look awesome. Probably the hardest part would be finding a cooler slim enough to fit. Noctua make the NH-L9i which has a height of just 37mm.
This was my first computer system, passed down to me when my father bought a word processor for typing his college essays. Building one of these is definitely my life's list of to-do's. #BuildAC64
Wonderful follow up video. June 11th is my birthday, so this would be a great present. I’m gonna give the contest a go. Lol. #BuildAC64
That's the only thing with perspex sheets. Static! Apparently, you can spray water onto the protective sheet before you peel it off or even put the board in an oven at about 60 Celcius for 4 hours. Or go for the option of anti-static spray. Either, or. #BUILDAC64
I did some quick research and it may be possible to use a 65c22 for the 6526 with an adapter.The 65C22s are still being made. More investigation is needed. #buildac64
I think the final result looks really good, personally. It's making me want to have a go myself. #buildac64
I really like that case. Given the c64 is 95% new, there is no reason it has to have a Breadbin or C case.
I think there is a modern mechanical keyboard available. Add some repro key caps and that’s another item ticked off the list as new.
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#buildac64 From experience with my mega65 dev kit - plexiglass cases always attract dust you didn't know was floating around, let alone the stuff you do know is about
I currently have a BMC64 Pi based C64 & recently got a Breadbin C64 that was a loft find. The breadbin one was up the loft uncovered for over 30+ years according to the seller & has a massive coating of soot & grime all over it, so much in fact that 75% of the keys you can't see the writing on them lol. That's my project this bank holiday to strip it & give the keys & case a good soak, oh & I did fire it up & all works perfectly. I have built a new Sinclair Spectrum & a new C64 is next on the list to build, after that an A500 new build is on the cards (thought I would work my way up from smallest to largest). #BUILDAC64
I was sceptical about a plexiglass case for a C64, but I have to admit it looks quite fancy (other than the dust-magnet problem for sure ....). #buildac64
Well done! Impressive. It looks pretty darn cool!
I loved my C64, it was my first computer. My mum and I used to spend hours typing in programs from magazines, it was great fun. Being in the UK I had a tape deck and I got the matching printer which got so much use. #BUILDAC64
#BUILDAC64 The magic antistatic spray is called Antistatic Spray Foam. It also is a cleaner as well as an extra bonus.
I've been looking for a big soldering project and after playing with Spectrums in recent months it would be nice to take on a C64. Great video as always thank you. #BUILDAC64
I'm (very slowly) working my way through a repair on my own childhood C64. I could see salvaging some parts for a new build, and I've been itching for an excuse to get an EPROM programmer for little projects! #BUILDAC64
A keyboard extension cable is something I can’t imagine isn’t more used given the number of C64s out there. Wonder if someone hasn’t a pre-made one. Maybe weave some Electroluminescence wires in to get some attention in. Very cool build. #BUILDAC64
If I wasn't going to build a uAX64 already, I would totally do this. I LOVE that case!
Very interesting they do a similar case for the Amiga A500. I can hear Mrs Crashed now, "Another bloody thing to dust..." #BUILDAC64
Very nice. A C64 in this format would be a perfect companion to the MEGA65 DevKit. #BUILDAC64
Nicely done. I just got my original C64 working. I hope everyone is enjoying these retro computers. #buildac64
#buildac64 - Looks good, I am sure that there are "anti-static sprays" available to help reduce the dust attraction to your machine. I imagine a transparent SX-64 would be quite an attractive beast as well
One thing just dawned on me, are RF shields needed with newer components on these boards, I mean the new things most likely dont "bleed" and disturb stuff around them or atleast not to the same extent as the old 80's components, or am I overthinking it ?
Looks great and Like your channel. I acquired a bunch of retro computers for $75.00 about 4 years ago and finally unboxed just a couple of months ago to see what was inside. They were found in an attic from a house that was cleaned and ready for sale. Supposably the previous owner of the house (who had passed away) actually worked for Commodore. Ended up with qty of 3 C64's, qty of 2 TI99's, about 75 cassettes, stacks of floppy's, a few disk drives, cassette drive, about 4 dozen cartridges, misc. wires and adapters. Hoping to get started soon and find out what works and what can be repaired and restored. Maybe I should do a video while inventorying. #buildac64
This looks great, brings back so many cool memories
Never had a C64 growing up. My first computer was a Tandy Radio Shack Color Computer (TRS-80 CC). I also had a Cambridge Z88 portable computer. My high school had a PDP-11 system that I learned BASIC, COBOL, and Pascal on.
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It looks great, congratulations!
As i am To young to have Grown up with a C64's the more I watch all the different Creators play with theirs the more i have been wanting to also. Keep up the good Content. #buildac64
I've never had a C64, as I came from a Sinclair background and then graduated strait into a PC. Then when nostalgia hit, I've ended up with several Amigas, STs and loads of Sinclair machines, but still no C64. I suppose now is a time as good as any to build one, so here it goes! #buildac64
Would be cool if the Retro Shack logo vent was illuminated like a power led. :)
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Second dumb question - knowing that it's likely that you'll need to use a larger EEPROM/EPROM, why hasn't the board been redesigned to accommodate one or the other (jumper to choose?) so that these adapter boards aren't necessary?
Because it is a replica. Some people have designed modified boards though, so you can choose.
I think adding coloured lights to it (since the case is plexiglass) might make it really stand out! Fantastic job on the build!! #BUILDAC64
I guess there is a way to use only one EPROM for all 3 ROMs by combining all 3 on different EPROM locations and wiring 2 wires from CS lines to EPROM's address lines.
After TI abandoned the TI99/4A, I got a C64 when I was in high school, but only for a few days. For some reason or another, it didn’t work with our color TV, so I ended up with a CoCo instead. While I liked my CoCo, it didn’t have the sound and color of the C64,and I was taunted every time the C64 commercials with Bach Invention 13 was on my TV every time I watched the A-Team, Knight Rider, Magnum PI, etc. #BUILDAC64
Hi looking goo just a thought though, not sure if you may have problems but you left the unused address lines floating on your ROM replacements, maybe not as you programmed multiple images but still not good practice #buildac64.
I can't wait until you can build an entirely new C64, it's getting so close now! A perfect project to POKE around 🤣 #buildac64
I’m keen to see the final versions of the VIC replacements using FPGA’s, they look super promising. My first IT job was repairing C64’s and Amigas back in the day! #BuildAC64
I got one of the crystal clear cases for the A500++ I built two years ago just recently. It's a beautiful case and will show off the awesome purple motherboard of the A500++. I loved the case you chose for your #BUILDAC64, and I'd love to try building a64 my self.
Didn't think a completely 'new' 64 was possible. nice work #buildac64
Great Video. Look forward to more of the same, or similar.
Looks like the double pin header is installed incorrectly on the pcb. The thick end passes through from below to be soldered on top. The longer thin ends plug into the dial socket, that's why they are longer.
Looks great. Nice that they did your logo in the top. #BuildAC64
The c64 is the first piece of “retro tech” that appeared on my radar after my mother told me about it. This project to build one out of new parts is exactly the kind of thing I would attempt! #BuildAC64
Always had color computers. Sold many c64 back in the day and need to add one to my collection. #buildac64.
Now that I think, it was odd that the only popular 8 bit Comp. I never had was the C64. #BUILDAC64
Not sure about the plexiglass case, not something I'd like for myself, but the idea of building my own C64 has been something I've been wanting to do since I had to leave my old C64 behind in my last move!! #buildac64
Just wondering if you can make your the Retro Shack cutting glow by projecting some blue LEDs on it!
Nice video, but are you going to do some tests on it (I actually want and love to see it working that's all)
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The C64 is still the most Iconic Homecomputer ! #BuildAC64
The black boards look great. The thought of building a computer from a PCB was what got me into electronics and retro computing in early 2020. After a detour into the Ben Eater 6502 and Acorn & BBC repairs I’m now looking at learning more about C64 #buildac64
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Nice to know they have options. #BUILDAC64
I own a C64, but have never build anything like this from scratch...would love to grow from a noob to..well more than a noob! #BUILDAC64
I have to admit. I never owned a C64 when I was young(er). I had a CPC 464.
But many of my friends had C64's and later the Amiga.
In all honesty, perhaps now I'm ready for a C64.
So, I would LOVE to own one of these PCB's to build my own.
Really hope I'm one of the lucky ones.
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Basically this is a unique new machine which looks to have the size of an amiga 500 in the way you build it so brand new commodore hybrid! :) Also even if it has one or a few classic chips it is still brand new and amazing especially in this color! 🤩 I would make one like this totally custom and keep one in its absolute original style just to have also the original love aside! :) #BUILDAC64
The black and gold mainboard is strikingly beautiful, looking to build a c64 myself soon! #buildac64
I have been always fascinated by the 8/16 bits computers would love to have one #buildac64
That look so good. Hopefully you can make a photo-shoot that includes it. #BUILDAC64
I just loved your #buildac64 series. Have you thought about a VIC 20 build?
Oh, I definitely have :)
Retro rebuilding is fast becoming one of my new hobbies, thanks for sharing your experience with us! #BuildAC64
This build looks incredibly fun! Can't wait to see each part get replaced. #BUILDAC64
Very nice build
That was a good video. I like your clone. As I mentioned, then I have build my own SixtyClone. These boards are so nice. But I went for a black Model-C case my self, and brown rubber feets. Also a case badge that nobody else seem to use. If you would like to have a look, then it is on my channel.
Antistatic dashboard cleaner should work nicely. #BuildAC64
The colourful stickers on the ROM are a great idea. IMO the crystal with the wire hurts the esthetics a little bit. But otherwise it's one grand C64 build! #buildac64
I'd love to build my own C64. I had a Spectrum and I remember using my friends C64 to play games and programme basic. #buildac64
That looks sharp! Now you need some RGB case lighting. #buildac64
OK. Dumb question. What are the other pins (addressing/data pins? R/W? Electric Erase?). Does the board remap the pins? or does it eliminate the extra pins at the end?
Such a great project
Looks amazing. Great work on finding almost the new parts. #buildac64
#BUILDAC64 the board looks so nice, having it displayed unpopulated in a shadow box frame on the wall would be cool.
I'm very much looking forward to the 6526 replacements.It's a shame that the other PIAs can't be converted to work with the C-64, since I think they might even still be made. #buildac64
#buildac64 I'd love to get one of these boards and build my own 'new' C64! My first computer was a Timex Sinclair, but shortly after, a Vic20 and a C64 came into the household. Loved them all.
More solid gold stuff.
Looks like a fun project. Also like the look of the laser company products. Also #buildac64
Always happy to see new builds. I can't stand plexiglass cases though. They cheapen everything imho; I would have gone with a translucent C64C case.
Sorry meant DIL socket ! #buildac64
Incredible build! Always a pleasure to watch your great videos. #buildac64
Very nice indeed. Builing a new 64 on your own like this is really cool. #BUILDAC64