M1942 Military Mountain Stove and Cookset
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Great job Dave! I'm impressed. You did your homework. I'm a campstove guy and you got just about all of it spot on. For me to say that means something, as I don't hand out praise easily. I agree with everything you said except one thing. This stove's Achilles heal is the same one shared with the M1950/Coleman 536. The damn pump check valve. Coleman already had the best pump/check valve design ever, and it still is in my opinion. But they went with a single point failure rubber NRV(non return valve, yes, it's just a fancy term for check valve).
With the original Coleman design you had the best of both worlds, a ball check to keep the air from coming back when pumping, and a sealing valve stem positive shutoff. But the best part was/is that when you pump, the Coleman pump directs the air through a small tube that terminates above the max fuel level. So basically your actually pumping the air into the top of the tank, so if it DOES leak, only air leaks out, not raw liquid fuel.
With this design, you have a little 4.5mm/.177 dia rubber "pip" in a brass cup with a spring to aid seating. That being a familiar diameter to me, I tried lead pellets and BBs. The lead would work, but not as reliably as nitrile or viton rubber. Anyway, this is all bathed in liquid fuel, so if it leaks, liquid fuel will bypass the pip and start filling the pump tube. You will likely see the pump slowly extending on it's own when this happens. Eventually, the pump will extend all the way and fuel will start flowing out around the pump shaft and the vapors will ignite and you'll have an exciting few minutes on your hands.
I can only guess that they went with this design because it allows the Soldier to service everything with the included wrench, which makes sense. But the original pumps don't fail often. And even if the check valve leaks, the stem still seals. And if BOTH fail, it only leaks air.
If this stove had the original Coleman pump design, it would literally be the perfect single burner gasoline camp stove. If you keep new pips on hand, it's still a great stove. But it could have been the GOAT!
Liking this stove and cook set Dave Canterbury.👍☘️😎
I also bought it for $10 in South Korea in 1972.
The excellence of the product has already been verified.
A friend borrowed it a long time ago and lost it.
I re-ordered it on eBay today for over $300.
In fact, after 50 years, I found the memories.
I am really happy.
I have a Colman Mfg dated 1945. My grandfather brought it home after being stationed in Italy at the end of WWII. Still have the original label intact with instructions.
I saw one of these for sale in an antique store for $11, and bought it because i liked how it looked and felt, now I know what it is. THANKS! I want to get it functional now that I watched your video
I'm loving your Coleman nerd videos. I spent a few years collecting lanterns, stoves, and whatever else I came across. I'm not as into it now, but I know enough to really appreciate the rare stuff and to perform field repairs on the gear I still use. You're making me want to bust out my 1947 530 for my next adventure.
I have a Coleman No. 530 A46, not sure of the date or how to find it.
You should take that to a designer and see if they can redesign it with some upgrades get someone to manufacture it for you, then offer them for sale. In sure plenty of people would buy them, its a great design.
That was a great video! Thanks Dave, your appreciation of History is commendable.
I love your obvious passion and love for our subject of the outdoors sir! I honestly appreciate your interest in the history and information given and sometimes forgotten to us by our ancestors! Both past and more recent!! Please keep doing your thing! I really enjoy watching your videos and I learn lots from you and sometimes I see things that are very similar to what I was shown as a young man! So also bringing back some good memories!! Very best wishes friend to you and your family 🙏🏼🙏🏼👍🏽👍🏽👌🏽😎
Yep,I agree 👍
Excellent video Dave. Very informative. Love these type videos. Hopefully you get back into your blacksmith videos. Looking forward to the trapping season and trapper cabin series this winter. Great stuff.
Got a couple of M1950. And a Canadian pot set. Thank you for the education. Dave
I've had this stove for years. It worked initially but the pump cup wore out. I haven't been able to find a reliable source to repair it. I loved this stove, it's perfect in everyway in my opinion.
Huge fan brother I've been following u ever since I saw u on duel survivor which was only any good because you were on it . Just wanted to say thank u for Everything u do brother ,i watch all your videos and have learned so much over the yrs
Great stove thanks for sharing this older equipment with us. I enjoy the older things like this.
Way Cool Dave! 👍 all of those features I agree... and I think one of the most versatile was that you can burn it using any type of liquid fuel...gas,diesel, xcetera,
Wow, I found one of the F containers in while cleaning out his shop, he passed in 1992, he served in 4 major battles with General Patton, including The Battle if the Bulge. Finally know what it was for, Thanks
Really do you have any information about it, I live near de ardennen, where the battle of the bulge was
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Steve
Nice to see you back Mr Canterbury
Great video Dave glad your back in the states!
I own 4 of these, purchased 2 at estate sales and 2 on e-bay. I also collect old kerosene lanterns.
I love mine .Can not wait to you copy it. Would be a great seller
Awesome stove and a great over view of it.
I'd have one.
Thank's for sharing.
I have two backpacking stoves coming in under 4 oz that you can almost weld with. Your stove is historically significant and belongs in a museum
Sweet piece of gear. I would def love a stove like that. Thank for teaching us about gear history Dave.
This is so weird. My wife and I just left a old treasure store and there was a stove like this. Not real sure about model or date. The man that has the booth is a older guy. I can't remember if he was in the Korean War Or WW2 he wasn't there but would love to talk to him. This was not surplus store. He has a very nice small collection of WW2 uniforms and gear. I need to go back this was the second time I have seen the stove in there. I always really liked it. It also has a small wrench like tool in the kit. Not sure if is supposed to be in there or not. Best thing is he is asking 75 bucks for it. I've seen these in other places for the price your talking about and always passed them up because I have various other way to cook. Thanks for the Video I can't believe this is just a coincidence.
Thomas Moorman the M1950 Korean War and later version did have a wrench. M1942 I don’t know.
Dave. You reminded me that I have 3 (I think) of those and at least one of the F type storage containers in my storage. Now I'm gonna have to dig em out and see what year and model they are. At least one of them are 100% complete including the wrench that stored on the stove. I may even have one of the original paper boxes they were issued in. 🤔. 🇺🇸😎
Great vid, thanks for the info. My go to is a Coleman Peak One, Feather Weight, it is a multi-fuel, even diesel with a generator change. Am sure it is not as durable as that '42 but it works the same way and very fuel efficient. If someone wanted to manufacture those stoves today they could since the patents have all expired, but so many want the small light no fuss, no muss of the canister stoves today.
Awesome vid. Glad to have another installment in this series.
As much as I like the stove, I have problems with the doggone pump part. Can't find replacement parts. But when the thing worked it was a blast furnace! :)
Thank you for the info I love my Fiesta I keep that and a propane 1 burner for backups you are a great teacher and I appreciate your videos
Thanks for the video Mr. Dave. When I see things like the m1942 I think about the " golden generation" and what they brought to the table. No pun intended.
That is a nice looking stove and it must have been so valuable for the military personnel who used it. That is the type of stove one would love to use for camping where you can't make a wood fire or it was not available.
Ok so the question is... when is the pathfinder stainless steel stove coming out????? 👍
I like the looks of the stove. I still prefer my Coleman 530. I know it’s a silly pet-peeve, but the Colemans weren’t chrome, they were nickel plated brass founts with stainless uprights around the burner. I just prefer the wider range of capability or what you can cook in on the smaller “grate,” if you will, as opposed to the three points of the alladin. But they’re all a testament of engineering days gone by.
Reminds me of a prototype version of the Optimus Polaris Optifuel stove, which is amazing. Burns any liquid or gas fuel with no hardware changes.
Loving all the good content Dave. I imagine the old propane from the 40-70’s was smokeless and wouldn’t potentially give away your position in a combat situation
Now i want one.
yard sale. find for me.. got super lucky. 15 bones. love it. almost felt bad.
Reminds me of the "Whisper lite" stove I got in the mid 80s. They had an upgraded version that burned all fuels, mine only burned white gas. I think it was a simple jet swap to add that versatility.
MSR whisperlite international is awesome. I have burned diesel, kerosene, gasoline, Coleman fuel, and alcohol in it. Alcohol doesn't work great but it does work. Great stove overall.
Yikes - I just saw a M1942 stove (with the wheel adjustment) on eBay for $400. I love your videos, but part of me misses the pre-Internet days when people didn't know what they had LOL
What's the square green water bottle ? never seen one like it. Thanks, Dave
I have the same one with the F storage containers.
I would bet that the reason they don't make stuff like that any more is the same reason they quit making a grill that I own. it is made out of cast aluminum it was made in the 50s and is almost as good as it was when it was made.
They will last FOREVER and they can't sell you a new one ever 4 or 5 years, great video Dave keep it up.
I love seeing old stuff like that.
That's very cool! Thanks
I just checked mine--had it for 30 years or so. It has US SMP 1982 stamped into the side of the tank, a label (paper) reads Stove, Gasoline Burner, M1950. Not stainless, though--it's painted olive drab. I think I paid $45 for it at a gun show. Any insight into this one?
Similar to the old msr XGK. Sounds the same and similar lighting technique. Multi fuel too.
Sweet little unit.
Awesome thanks for the info Dave!
Very nice stove dave atb stuart
I love this series.
Still trying to find the french mess kit :(
Great first video about that stove and cookset, looking forward to the next installment! Would love to see a video about the Coleman stoves with claimed dual fuel abilities, what fuels are actually possible in them? White gas, pump gas, kerosene, lamp oil, diesel, other options?
Nice kit brother!
Man I love these videos!
Hey brother, do you have or have you ever saw the one quart fuel canister that was issued along with those sets? I have only read of them and never saw pictures or video containing one. Thanks for what you do.
Having never seen pictures either I cant be sure but I do have 4 NOS 1qt Fuel cans with T bar lids that are at least KW era, maybe older that are Fuel cans for sure
@@DavidCanterbury yessir I believe without seeing them that is the one. It is supposed to be T top and one quart. Good on you! I've also read they were issued with an waterproof rations bag too protect food from leaked fuel or fumes.
I wonder what the German Mountain troops of that time frame used. Neat stove but, what I keep in mt truck is just a regular propane stove. I can do 4-5 thing with those 1 pound propane bottles
they ought to make new ones again , exactly like the old skool ones .
Wish I could find one of those cooksets... They seem to be some what rare... Much like that particular stove. Also I've seen that stove made by Coleman as well. Also didn't know if you had one but that bolt head in the side of the burner is for the wrench to hang on, Which is also hard to find..
Thanks Dave.
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That’s a nice stove!
Very cool thanks for sharing
That cookset is very similar to the Trangia cook set
Very interesting video Brother, thanks for sharing! Thumb's up~John
Hey Dave what's the difference between the older models and the newer models I've got an 82 or an 84 Fiesta got a good deal on it it was still in its Packaging came with the parts kit I think I've been used twice by the man that I bought it from
The Fiesta is an M1950 Model Stove looks quite a bit different that this one, I have a Rogers 1966 those are just like the Fiesta Stove as well an M1950 model
Dave I just walked into a thrift shop and found that stove with the f container only one I've ever seen ...got it for 4 dollars!!!! I feel like I just won the lottery.....what are the best gasses to use with this and is there anything I need to know about getting it going for the first time? Thanks brother!
Very much like a Svea stove. I wonder which was made first? Enjoyed the video.
Excellent vid ... and explanation
Opinion on the optimus 8R?
What typenof fuel?
It's neat but where would one find the fuel in a "SHF" situation?
Thank You Sir
Wish i had a old gii stove.
Ótimo video, como sempre. Thank you Dave!
Those are great. My dad had the whole cookset and we used it for many years.
So what is your favorite stove period?
Man they don’t make them like they used to 👍😎🍺🥃💣❤️🇺🇸✝️
Those things are huge. I’d hate to carry that while backpack camping.
What is the best fuel for it?
Come on Dave do the 502 Coleman!
Used one in Desert Storm. Lasted great until I took an RPG to the bustle rack.
Always interesting, thanks for sharing
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Steve
This is so cool it's rockin'...but I can't say it was quiet though...might not be a battle field stove in a fox hole close to the enemy...but darn fun to use and reliability for the camper. And, of course you know since you showed this...on You Tube...these prices are gonna triple now due to the demand...lol.
Much like the Garand "ping!" There are no accounts of contemporary German, Japanese, or Italian soldiers who managed to hear the sounds of cooking - it just blends into the wind.
Fun fact, they used to teach us to look for baking bread as a sign that your reconnaissance patrol had encountered a Soviet division headquarters (with a bakery). But if you've snuck past multiple battalions, now is probably not the time to be revealing your position with gunfire. But who am I to question the army's infinite wisdom?
Badass man thanks for an awesome video
Was this cook set used by the 8th Mountain of WWII fame?
Where did you get that David? I would like to get one
Wouldn't humping gasoline in your ruck be risky--in terms of seepage/fire? What happens when you run out of fuel while on patrol?
Leonard Urban well... this was good because it would use multiple fuel..
What happens when you run out of fuel? You are out of business.
Same with your firearm when you run out of bullets.
Why would gasoline be worse than alcohol? Alcohol stoves were used extensively by militaries .
So if you can carry alcohol you can carry any fuel safe.
I have a few of the current issue USMC msr white gas stoves. They are great. Have you tried them?
I have to me they are good, but too much paraphernalia to lug around and mess with for set up etc...I am big fan of easy
Thats what I always liked about the MSR Pocket rocket, screw it in, turn it on, and light it up, too easy
great vid ! thx for sharing brother.
Some times old is good
Your an interesting mam. Thanks for the informstion on how to. Enjoyed it bery much.
You seem to know a lot about these stoves. I just bought a Dutch surplus multi fuel stove. They said it burns unleaded gas, kerosene or diesel. my question is. Do you know off the top of your head, if it can burn regular old white gas?
I use the Coleman 1950, it's built like a tank, uses gasoline.
I have an M1950 as well, most all the Military stuff will burn unleaded as well. I think the Pot flanges are a bit less well thought out and more flimsy on the 1950 but it is a good stove as well
I've used dirty gas in mine. Gasoline that was sitting outside and got wet.
It was my understanding that stove can burn mist flammable liquids, which makes total sense for a true military application stove
An ALL BRASS SVEA is really hard to beat...Swiss Quality...!!!
That baby sounded like a cutting torch.🖒. They were made to last.
The most obvious answer I see is that they were too good. The army didn't need a stove that would last a hundred years. They needed more stoves cheaper. But they learned the lessons on how to make stoves that were still more than adequate.
I inherited one and I'm getting it working.
I inherited mine from my dad
I SERVED IN NAM AND WE DIDN'T USE ANY STOVE, WE USED C4 TO COOK, BUT USUALLY WE ATE COLD, OR IF LUCKY MOM A SON IN A VILLAGE COOKED DINNER.
THAT'S THE TRUTH
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That's a badass stove. 👊💀
Sorry, my Dad was Raymond Alfred Hottle
Australian law makers hate multi fuel devices so these type are rear as hens teeth over here.