Havlicek may not of been the most talented forward, but he was the hardest working forward of his day. Using what talent he had, and playing every minute of every game he was in , displaying a "school" for the fundamental's of the position and the game...he rose well above his natural ability to become one of the games greats. I so enjoyed watching him post and block that at my modest 5'10" I often played small forward when I could get the coach or guys to let me. A truly inspiring athlete and human being.
I never saw Havlicek play but from these clips he didn't look like much of a ball handler, all right hand. Am I mistaken? Can someone who knows his game chime in on this? Please correct me if I'm wrong...
no, not mistaken, though he could handle it okay, not turnover-prone; most players then did not use their left much, did not seem odd at the time but sure looks asymmetrical now
I saw him play on TV often. He used left as well as right equally. He used his ball handling in a utilitarian manner, not fancy, but then again you must remember when watching players of the 60's and 70's that they had to play by the rules. Palming the ball would be called, not like today when players carry the ball on every play. Its a hell of a lot easier to dribble if you don't have to follow the rules.
@@jamesvalentino4356 never saw him use them equally, or close, unlike today, but yes, he could handle it just fine, and did. One note, not to sound argumentative, is that the carrying description definition and hence enforcement changed --- while it used to be way back when (dates self) that any significant underside contact, that is below-equator contact, on the ball would be called, today it is considered (and sometimes is written down) that the ball has to literally *come to rest* for a short spell atop the palm on the underside. Meaning the ball is being carried. So actually today most players do not in fact carry the ball, and when they do, they (sometimes) get called for it. Meaning you do see the call made sometimes.
I have often seen players, particularly at the pro level but not limited to, take 2 or more steps without putting the ball on the floor....in my mind many wide dribbles are carries as the player places his hand on the side of the ball for an extended time...tis a big reason why the game looks so different
@@jamesvalentino4356 all true, but if on the side, not adjudged a carry, just the new dribbling approach rightly or wrongly, was not defending necessarily, just big push from the side is the way it is now, worldwide from 4th grade on :) steps has been another area of evolution, of course, what consists a gather step, launch step, shooting step ...
in hustle, grit, midwesternness, yes; otherwise no; havlicek was a little more like the westbrook of his time, high motor, go-go-go, attacking, not a great shot, real athletic, long stride, oversized lungs, football mentality, vision, hands
the tale is told in the first word of each interview segment--Wilt says "I", Hondo says "we"--
No surprise
RIP Hondo. From a sixers fan
Havlicek may not of been the most talented forward, but he was the hardest working forward of his day. Using what talent he had, and playing every minute of every game he was in , displaying a "school" for the fundamental's of the position and the game...he rose well above his natural ability to become one of the games greats. I so enjoyed watching him post and block that at my modest 5'10" I often played small forward when I could get the coach or guys to let me. A truly inspiring athlete and human being.
He was a pretty damn talented too.
Definetly.
To show you what kind of stamina Hondo had, he averaged 47 minutes a game for the Celtics when he was 38. No load management for John Havlicek! 💪🔥
Phenomenal at 38 years old.
@@philiplow6016 Every era seems to have somebody with ridiculous stamina and in the '60s and '70s that somebody was John Havlicek.
@Jing Qi Indeed. Havlicek is my inspiration.
@@jingqi9106lungs like lance armstrong
Oh yes he is one of the best 13 or 14 players ever,i know i watched him play for years..exclamation point.
celtics legend
RIP John Havlicek
"Its all over, The Boston Celtics are once again the World Champions"
Hondo was one of a kind!!
Wilt were the Celtics "lucky" 11 outta 13 seasons? Come on
And .... from about 66' on, Wilt played with BETTER players than Russell. Not as good, better.
Havlicek is one of the best 13 or 14 players ever period!!!
+manny4552 No he isn't. Period!.
No way id leave him off top 15 player list,if you do you dont remember him its just that simple?
Yes he is,he was a clutch big play guy.
manny4552 Lol!
I used to just call him 'Jimmy', I mean 'Johnny' or 'John'. We were not close but I thought we were.
I never saw Havlicek play but from these clips he didn't look like much of a ball handler, all right hand.
Am I mistaken? Can someone who knows his game chime in on this? Please correct me if I'm wrong...
no, not mistaken, though he could handle it okay, not turnover-prone; most players then did not use their left much, did not seem odd at the time but sure looks asymmetrical now
I saw him play on TV often. He used left as well as right equally. He used his ball handling in a utilitarian manner, not fancy, but then again you must remember when watching players of the 60's and 70's that they had to play by the rules. Palming the ball would be called, not like today when players carry the ball on every play. Its a hell of a lot easier to dribble if you don't have to follow the rules.
@@jamesvalentino4356 never saw him use them equally, or close, unlike today, but yes, he could handle it just fine, and did.
One note, not to sound argumentative, is that the carrying description definition and hence enforcement changed --- while it used to be way back when (dates self) that any significant underside contact, that is below-equator contact, on the ball would be called, today it is considered (and sometimes is written down) that the ball has to literally *come to rest* for a short spell atop the palm on the underside. Meaning the ball is being carried. So actually today most players do not in fact carry the ball, and when they do, they (sometimes) get called for it. Meaning you do see the call made sometimes.
I have often seen players, particularly at the pro level but not limited to, take 2 or more steps without putting the ball on the floor....in my mind many wide dribbles are carries as the player places his hand on the side of the ball for an extended time...tis a big reason why the game looks so different
@@jamesvalentino4356 all true, but if on the side, not adjudged a carry, just the new dribbling approach
rightly or wrongly,
was not defending necessarily, just big push from the side is the way it is now, worldwide from 4th grade on :)
steps has been another area of evolution, of course, what consists a gather step, launch step, shooting step ...
Was john game similar to larry birds game
in hustle, grit, midwesternness, yes; otherwise no; havlicek was a little more like the westbrook of his time, high motor, go-go-go, attacking, not a great shot, real athletic, long stride, oversized lungs, football mentality, vision, hands
@@davidmoran5431he want a pure shooter but he shot well enough to score thirty thousand points if you count playoff points
It was similar but bird was more flashy. Especially in the passing department..
@@manny4552yes, as I wrote; studied him from HS on, an amazing motor
I have the same birthday as him and 17 happens to be my favorite number
amazing
amazing
rip
When havlicek played of course the rims were 10 feet high not 9 lol.
Wilt is the saltiest player of all time holy shit.
Wilt kinda looks like Tupac in this video
U officially high af
wut ?!😅