Texas & Oklahoma Fans Aren't Ready for the SEC with Josh Pate
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- Texas and Oklahoma will be playing in the SEC this year, so we brought Josh Pate in to discuss our predictions for how they'll do their first year in this top-tier conference.
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They're beating the hell out of that "They aren't ready" meme. If only Texas and Oklahoma had been playing major college football of these years. If the Mizzous of the world can adapt, I imagine Texas and Oklahoma can too.
How many SEC championships has Missouri won? A&M? Arkansas? South Carolina? Same answer for all: zero.
@@patbrooks9823 mizzou made it to the championship game the first season
BIGXII additions aren’t coming from an inferior league lol
Missouri? They’ve been terrible in the SEC 80% of the time they’ve been in and you call that adapting ?
@@patbrooks9823exactly…proof the sec is top heavy and the bottom is mid. The bottom of the sec got torched in bowl games last 3 years…Texas tech and Baylor beat ole miss and so thanks for proving our point. Guess that’s that Deep South poverty education
OU has a winning record vs all but 4 SEC programs, and those 4 average a 1 game advantage. We do not fear you. We hope that makes you laugh. We look forward to having you fine folks up for a visit to our little Palace on the Prairie.
As a Dawg fan OU got some major respect ever since the rose bowl.
@@dairyair5371 Dawg fans, Bama fans, LSU fans...they all seem to think we will do just fine. It's the little guys that have a hard time admitting OU is a blue blood and they aren't.
@@Tijuanabill Yeah. This whole "SEC SEC SEC" thing is annoying. Whenever someone wants to talk trash they begin with SEC. Stop. If your team isn't doing it then you need to sit down. I could care less what conference the Horns are in. It's the Horns. Period. I will never try to gain cred by talking up the SEC, like it was some big advantage.
SCOREBOARD matters. Not conference. Tired of the mid and low tier program's fans trying to cope when talking smack about my Horns. How good is YOUR team?? Sit down and be quiet.
I have not heard that from a single Oklahoma fan.
I have a sneaky feeling OU is going to surprise these guys this year.
As a UK fan we expect to beat Texas this year. We catch them at a good spot and we are healthy we probably have the best DL they face.
If Missouri can go to the SEC title game two times why can't Texas and Oklahoma be good in the SEC?
Missouri has nfl talent don't sleep
@@JimmyWashingtonIIso does Oklahoma. Yes, NFL caliber talent does exist outside of the SEC.
@@JimmyWashingtonIIoklahoma way better overall program not even close.
@@nicholascasino4208 no get back games in the sec bro
@@JimmyWashingtonIIOklahoma has more talent in the NFL right now than Missouris whole history combined.
Im tellin yall, unless you have been to the Red River Shootout. You don't know what you're talkin about when comparing rivalries.
Now it’s at 2:30 I won’t be as tired and drunk by 11 lol
You can make an argument that mizzou and A&M are better in the sec. In fact the overall records are better in the sec than the old big 12
Both those teams are recruiting better in the SEC than they did in the Big12
Both those teams couldn't win a national championship in the big 12. And haven't done it in the sec with all the recruiting they've done. But the faggies love buying coaches they can't afford and will continue to do that. They're the worst big 12 team in the sec and will keep that tradition going.
A&M went 10-2 in their first year in the SEC and Mizzou went 11-1 in their second, before they started recruiting at a SEC level.
@nickfra yeah pop years. Now look at the totality.
@@jesuschristhomeslice9492 10 years is hardly a good sample for a body of work considering Mizzou had an entire staff turnover unexpectedly then got hit with a death penalty.
Bad teams worry about tough schedules. I'm happy OU is getting punched in the face their first year. By the end of the season there will be no doubt where they stand.
Exactly, which is why I want FSU to join the SEC nobody at FSU is scared of the SEC during our dominant stretch from the late 80s to the early 00s we would have dominated ANY conference period.
Chokelhoma didn’t play Ga you’re not getting the best
@@cgiii2440FSU is not getting in the SEC. 63-3 against Georgia proved they would be in over their heads.
@AlexanderWinterborn And do you think winning a title In the 50s really matters now? Chokelhoma hasn’t won in well over 20 years! What program is the standard In 2024? It sure ain’t Chokelhoma! Cry more
@@samright4661calm down little bull dog. GA was a dead program until the 80’s. Enjoy your time in the sun though as it fades and is gone before you know it.
Only two SEC teams defeated a CFP qualifier last season:
*Texas and Oklahoma*
I thought Texas would have did better after beating Bama in T town. But they wasnt motivated after that or something went wrong.
@@angelobrodie9415Texas secondary couldn’t hold up, and freshman running backs had fumble issues
Facts . 🤘
@jarrettjones6253 Starting QB sustained a shoulder injury in the Bama game, and it affected him most of the season.
This is the same crap everybody was talking when two mid tear big 12 teams joined the conference and trucked everybody the first five years they were there
Not sure why people think that UT/OU fanbases should “shut up” or “humble ourselves” before getting in the SEC. If I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard someone say “Texas/Oklahoma is gonna be the new Vanderbilt” i’d crash the global economy
Why is Tennessee in this comment?
Let’s correct you right now . ONlY one UT in the SEC that’s the university of TENNESSEE. Your are T U . Texas university. Know it , learn it , live it . Down horns
@@timothyjones1906You're not very bright, are you, Cleetus? Good lord. 🤘
Welcome to the Sec and good luck. Yall are going to need it.
@@timothyjones1906 Official name is University of Texas
😂 we dominated the conference when a couple of these supposed daunting mid tier teams were there too. How terrifying 🤣
Texas has never been in the SEC, and they’ve never consistently played an SEC schedule.
@@chriswilliams6896hes talking about in the Big 12 before everybody left, and he’s right.
Keep these OU needs a few years takes coming.
I mean Texas did beat Alabama on the road🤣
And Oklahoma has had Texas's number the past 10 years 😂
Forgetting 2022??
@@joeforehand384 yall must've forgot OU didn't have their QB in2022. tx is 2-8 in the last 10. Gotta go back 90 years before tx has a winning record.
The SEC has losing record the last two bowl seasons and had a losing record against the ACC this year. Just because they have an SEC logo on their jersey, doesn't automatically make them worth a crap at football.
But now play 7 more sec teams you will lose
I dont understand the narrative that texas and ou "are gonna learn what the sec is all about" that any team in the sec can beat them. Whos arguing different? Yall act like the big 12 hasnt been to most competitive conference yesr in and year out. We have only had 2 undefeated conference champions since 09. Both texas and ou have lost to Kansas. Every team in the big 12 has beaten texas at least once in the last 13 years. Texas "only" has 9 undefeated seasons. Nobody believes their school has better odds of going undefeated than not. If texas is the best team in the conference, then they will win it. It doesn't matter their record. Because it will be better than anyone elses if thats true.
And another question. Who needs to learn? The fans? Last time i checked the fans dont play the game. Is it the players? Last time i checked, texas has recruited as well, if not better than all the sec schools except Georgia. The team practices and plays against each other. That's where teams get better. And we have as much if not more talent than any other team in the sec. So im confused on who needs to learn?
I love how we’re pretending like OU and Texas haven’t been Juggernauts in CFB for decades now. Sure, this is trouble for the win record for both teams. But if you think it isn’t going to affect everyone else’s win records then you’re just being stupid. Oklahoma and Texas can both beat any team in the SEC on any day. They’re both Elite teams and Programs.
but but but Kentucky 😂
What’s stupid is your comment. It says fans are not ready not teams.
@@edwardunderwood9619 It’s hilarious that you’re calling my comment stupid when you can’t even use proper grammar. “Fans are not ready not teams”? What the hell does that even mean?
@@Vayne207 Just prove me right. Stupid at work. The weakest reply is the grammar one. Now look in the nearest mirror and say “I am stupid when I think about”. Thank me later
@@Vayne207 Its a reason your comment only got 8 thumps up while the others got twenty plus in the same time frame. I’m not the only who thinks it’s stupid and baseless. Douchebag
The depth of the SEC is overrated. Texas and Oklahoma will be just fine.
The SEC has 6 potential Playoff teams and that’s without Texas and Oklahoma. UGA, Bama, Tenn, Ole Miss, LSU, and Missouri. I think Texas is elite but no other conference has that depth and it isn’t close. Oklahoma will definitely have trouble, Texas maybe not as much
@AlexanderWinterborn overall as a Team OU has been way better in the Big 12, that’s obvious I just think Texas comes in with a better roster and also a wayyyy easier schedule. Wasn’t taking a shot at OU in terms of long term, I think OU will recruit well and be a top end team. Just not in the next 2 years so they’ll struggle
As a Texas fan I want all the smoke
I want to see Texas play all of them
As a OU fan I like texas mentality I'll take em all on
Don't worry about that. You will get it.
Lets get it
Sir your new to this trust me South Carolina good if you let them be. 😂
More competition makes everyone better. See y'all soon 😁
Why are yall acting like BV doesnt know what the SEC is?
Ya don't worry they will see when they can't score
@@willsummers1245 tjen they are going to say the SEC is just having a down year, and OU still will be under rated.
If it's true that nobody can beat B tier SEC programs, why don't they dominate their nonconference games? This idea that there are other conferences out there, that don't have anyone that can beat a good team, are just not rooted in data. The Big 12, Big 10, and even the lowly ACC, have all sorts of B tier teams, that can beat you in their house.
7-5 Kentucky beat 10-2 Louisville last year.
10-2 Missouri beat 8-4 Kansas State last year.
and if you wanna count bowl games
Ole Miss over Penn State. LSU over Wisconsin. Kentucky came close to Clemson. Texas A&M lost to I forgot who it was but it was awful. so therefore, many B teams when they have a competent coach most of the time beat the other B teams unless they’re from the B1G.
the tiers of a B team from each conference
SEC: LSU/TN/Miss/Mizz
ACC: Louisville/NCST
Big-12: OKST/WV/KST/KU
B1G: PSU/Iowa/WIS
Pac-12: AZ/Utah/USC
@@GoatedAtNFS Didn't the SEC lose like all it's bowl games just two years ago? 😂😂🤣🤣
At some point there has to be something different to talk about yall have been having this conversation since 2021
The SEC or the media that cover the SEC is forgetting that the OU and Texas schools that's coming into this league will benefit the most because of recruiting Texas kids OU and Texas will get the cream of the crop of the best players now over the middle of the road schools.
Texas definitely has a easier conference schedule than Oklahoma does.
Yeah, but that will change in 26.
It's funny that no one wants to count the number of "have nots" in the SEC.
SIX different SEC schools have won national titles since start of BCS. No other conference has more than TWO teams able to do it. I would call that a deeper conference that the rest of the country. That's more than the xii, big and ENTIRE left coast COMBINED.
@@FredPitre-o4bit’s really the coaches tho and not the schools themselves
Research buddy.
@@Sniper_T_2x Some schools are better at bringing in top level coaches than others. Its the NAME of school that gets said coach there. Some schools are willing to PAY to get the best coaches.
@@FredPitre-o4b how many of the SEC champions is Nick Saban lol
“Then you gotta go play Kentucky” 😂😂😂lol
Kentucky isn't a push over. They certainly aren't top tier but going to Kentucky isn't exactly a game you want to be playing right before or right after a big game. They are a team that can push you to and maybe even over your limit if you're not careful.
@@benfontenot9896
Yes, Kentucky football is 💩
@@benfontenot9896just like every other mid tier team in any other conference. The sec isn’t special
I respect Kentucky but this is *VERY* recently...they need to stop it acting like they've been a problem.
@@benfontenot9896 Bro a middle tier SEC team like Kentucky isn't that different than a well coached Iowa State team at Jack Trice Stadium.
Missouri and AM were no where near the top of the crop when they were in the big 12. OU and TX were.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Do you honestly think that is saying something????? It's the Big 12 😂😂😂😂😂😂.
Once again, you people have serious mental issues.
Great Point!
Been saying it for years.....
I think OU is gonna dominate the SEC. Let's not forget Missouri was middle of the road at best in the Big 12, somehow ended up in the SEC championship game its 1st 2 years in the mighty SEC 🤷🏽♂️ Missouri! Not even gonna talk about tx a&m... Average & Mediocre
@WheresJiohdee first of all they went 2-6 in the SEC their first year. They made it the 2nd and 3rd and got their clock cleaned and haven't been back sense. It was more of an indication of Florida and Georgia not being up to their standard than any imagined success by Missouri. Two trips in 12 years???? That's success????🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. I thought Missouri was "The Show me State".........not the "Make up BS and pass it off as truth in some pathetic attempt to show your ignorance on the internet State."
OU and TX dont have johnny football like A&M did
What people are forgetting, this isn't Arkansas, Missouri and South Carolina coming into the SEC, it's Texas and Oklahoma. Big enough brands that are capable of competing with the biggest names in the conference.
Ok lol.
@@Damariun224
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😂😂😂😂
@@JohnThomas296 They’ll find out fast
@AlexanderWinterborn The conference with 5 different national championship winners in the past 23 years is overrated😂. The way yall cry about the SEC is insane. Missouri caught UGA and UF at the perfect time. Since then they have done absolutely nothing at all😂. Texas A&M has done nothing.
My team is an SEC team, and I can tell you Texas and Oklahoma will do fine in the SEC. They will be competitive. They have been successful in the BIG12. Adding that SEC patch to their uniforms will only help them attract even better talent. They will be fine
I’m a fan of an SEC team as well. I’ve never said they’re going to look like Vanderbilt in our conference that’s completely unrealistic. But it’ll be harder with teams on their schedule like ole miss and Alabama as apposed to Kansas and Baylor.
@@tonyvstan4175 Y'all just let the wolf in the hen house. Vandy? wtf? Half the SEC will join Vandy. smfnh
@@ret.stockbroker663 read my comment again I said it was delusional to say Texas *would* look like vandy in the SEC. I’m giving your team respect. It’s not going to be easy for Texas but they *can* do well. But if they make a Charlie strong type hire again it’ll be rough for Texas so make sure yall pay Steve.
@AlexanderWinterborn 30 million people live in Texas on top of that most of the 5 stars are born there. This changes nothing for Texas recruiting significantly. Like I said great team good coach. Really the winner is Vanderbilt as they get all the money from the Texas brand joining the sec and they still won’t have to have a good team.
@@tonyvstan4175this narrative that the big 12 has no B tier teams that can beat a great team on any given week is so weird. There are teams like Kansas state, Oklahoma state, and Iowa state that are comparable to teams like A&M, Ole Miss, and Florida. People just refuse to accept that
I get the whole SEC is different week to week because more talent but here's the thing. At least for Texas (and mostly OU too), almost the entire B12 considers them a rival. Every single team plays up and puts all their energy and focus and offseason into preparing for Texas. That's not going to be the same in the SEC. Texas is just another good team. Because of that, I think Texas (and probably OU) will be more than prepared to go through an SEC season. As Pate said, it's about depth, and Texas (OU a bit less so), has depth as good as anyone in the SEC perhaps not named Georgia. They'll be just fine. OU needs another year or so to develop their culture and depth but they'll be fine quickly too.
Interesting how people keep saying OU needs more time than UT, yet OU beat UT last year. OU has a winning record over UT over the past 10 years (7-3), yet UT is more prepared. Do you see how silly that sounds.
I think OU and Texas will both be the most anticipated game for every SEC team they play this year. They most definitely aren't going to be just another game on other teams schedule
OU and Texas have beat plenty of SEC ass over the years, sure would be funny having OU and Texas in the SEC championship game!
It’s actually insane how they remember the wins more then the loses🤣🤣🤣 Texas beat Georgia in 2018, bama last year, lost to 2019 lsu by 7, Bama beat us by 1 at home🤣🤣 hell the only time bama ever beat Texas was by hurting our QB
Texas could be there, but not Oklahoma this year. Georgia still has the best chance at winning it again this year.
@@squiresam How do you know Oklahoma couldn't? Do you even know our roster?
Seriously? Lol. We beat ut again last year, 11 out of last 14 years, "lost " to 2 refs teams last year. OU 3-1 against Bama this century. Beat UF 55-20 in a down year. @squiresam
@@Hillcountryoperations The past doesn't matter for next year at all.
“It just means more” Lol, Oklahoma football ends up dominating every conference they’ve ever been in.
You've been in the same conference for several decades until this year. "Every conference" is just the big 12. Do you people hear yourself talk?
@@ninerealms69
😬 Simple internet search. Oklahoma football conference affiliations are as follows; Independents, SWC, Big 6, Big 8, Big 12, SEC “Do you people hear yourself talk?” 🤡
@@ninerealms69
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@@ninerealms69exactly! These OU and Texas fans are delusional!
@ninerealms69 OU has 50 conference championships . That should tell you something.
Meh- OU has a winning record over the SEC and 3 top 10 recruiting classes. Only been playing football pretty good for 100 years. We will be alright.
OU winning record exists because of bowl games, literally one-off games, not an entire schedule of SEC teams. But I agree that long-term OU will be fine, the talent rich SEC will make recruiting easier for OU and Texas
Y’all are gonna be fine but there’s the issue of players transferring. That’s an overlooked issue here. Y’all are obviously gonna go probably 500 this year so players might transfer to SEC rivals. I’ve seen it happen, auburn players going to LSU, Florida players going to Georgia, etc
@@brandon_mac6267 Players can no longer transfer to other SEC schools, they would have to transfer to another conference. We will do better than 500.
I think you missed his point. Do not think of it in terms of bowl records. vs SEC. Think of it in terms of the grind. Your last 3 games are @Mizzou, Bama@home, and @us. Not to mention @OlePiss 2 weeks before Mizzou. That is a hard run for anyone. And you all will be in a completely new environments. Your last game @us will be loudest stadium any recent OU team or OU fan has ever been in. OU never had to played in stadiums like that in the Big 12, maybe back in the SWC days, but 100,000 yelling against your team is rough. I am sure you all will be fine, you have the backing. But it will be an adjustment. As side note, I see you all at @Auburn. If you can go to that game, go. Auburn is hands down my favorite SEC road trip and pound for pound is loudest stadium I have been to.
@@jesuschristhomeslice9492Discounting OU’s success over the SEC because they were “one off games” is an incredibly weak argument. Believe it not there was a time where the Big 12/Big 8 was a tougher conference than the SEC. And guess what, OU still dominated
One minute Texas isn’t ready for the SEC, the next minute Texas has an easy SEC schedule . Which one is it? 🥱 Texas isn’t worried about the SEC. We’re about to run that sh*t. The only team we’ll compete with is UGA. At this point, nobody else is on our level as far as recruiting, coaching, or resources. We’ve already showed Saban the door, who’s next?
🤣🤣🤣
I tell you, one good season and it goes to their heads lol. You left off the team that's beaten you 7 of the last 10 times you've played them. 14-4, Texas isn't running anything. You will be good though. Always a nice bump to the resume. See you in the Cotton Bowl.
Exactly🤣🤣🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽 they just keep moving the finish line bro
@@stevejohnson6248buddy what does the wins against Texas get you?? No national titles, you and those Aggies only care about beating Texas that yall lose sight on the real picture🤣🤣🤣
@@Hillcountryoperations what it got was domination of the conference which gave OU opportunities thar Texas wasn't getting. It's easy to attack OU for losses in games Texas wasn't good enough to play in.
Sure we Texas/OU fans are ‘ready’.
We just went through online training in how to communicate with the SEC fans
1. Just say (insert school here) sucks. And say it alot. Thats the entirety of the communication.
2. Stock up on natty lites
3. Uniform in June is school logo sox, shorts, tshirts, hats and sunglasses.
4. Marlboro Reds - mandatory
5. Seeing that Belly that makes one wonder… is that guy pregnant?
6. Haircuts that take you back to the days watching The Three Stooges.
So yeah, we are ready. Not looking forward to it. But teady.😅
Glad I’m not the only one. I can’t muster any excitement about joining the SEC and I believe Texas/OU will both be fine.
I just don’t care about SEC teams the way I care about Kansas State, Okie State or Tech because of the history. I don’t care how passionate the fans are - A&M’s been passionate for decades, but that rivalry takes a back seat to Texas-OU. I’m too young to care about Arkansas. I’m mildly excited about A&M and Mizzou - and LSU because of family connections. But that’s about it.
I honestly don’t understand this narrative that’s been created that a bunch of fanbases of the less-historical programs (South Carolina, Kentucky, Vanderbilt) are sticking their chest out full of SEC pride looking at Texas and Oklahoma and saying collectively that there in for a rude awakening. You’re speaking to, at max, maybe 15% of those fans. The rest are more than understanding that things will be more difficult from here on out.
The condescending tone topped with the insinuation that these fanbases are completely naive is getting quite old.
As a Texas fan I don’t understand the fact that yall love that SEC logo as a Texas fan I don’t give a damn if we’re in the same conference we’re not cool with nobody, Texas was the most hated team in the big 12, and they now will be the most hated in the SEC and probably the country
I would say you're wrong because I have seen countless ignorant sec fans. I had a conversation with an Arkansas fan that said Ohio State would struggle to make a bowl game in the sec
Unfortunately, we live in a world where the loudest voices are the most delusional and as a result, perspective becomes truth.
As an OU fan, I see the comments discussed everywhere. But, I’m also wise enough to recognize those fanatics & homers don’t represent the silent majority. I view it through the same lens as I do politics. And the silent majority is a monster you don’t want to wake up!
Dude on the left talking about OU like they’re some sort of poverty program just happy to invited to the party. 😂🖕
i may be in the minority here but imo SEC is overrated as far as public opinion there’s 3 teams and everybody else is mid yeah ole miss might have a 10’win season here there but overall there’s a lot of 5,6,7,8 win teams in this conference who would be that same team in another P4 conference
The middle and lower part of the pack in the SEC aren’t any better than any other conference. OU and even Texas to some extent have historically done very well against the SEC. I think sec fans are probably going to be smoking a lot of copium for the next few years. 😂😂😂
Texas yea that's a juggernaut. But OU has signed its own death warrant joining the SEC.
@@voiceofreason2674Your a 🤡
@voiceofreason2674 Oklahoma 17-8 vs Texas in the last 25 years. Oklahoma 7 national championships and 14 big 12 championships. 7 heisman winners
@@ROUGHNECK75also lost 3 championships in 03, 04, 08. Nobody is worried about Oklahoma. Can’t wait to beat yall on October 12th
You didn't know?! Going into Manhattan, Ames or Stillwater is so much easier than Lexington.....
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Let’s just get the season started and be done with all the talk. BOOMER
So OU beat Texas but we ain't ready an texas is I'm so confused with this people ...
The sec is overrated and top heavy..BOOMER!
Haven't heard anyone in Norman saying that. Fans know it's gonna be a tougher road, but aren't afraid of the challenge to upgrade (especially in the trenches). As for TX, the overhype is nothing new, except now it's coming from SEC people as well lol
I wish SEC would play 10 conference games
5 permeant rivals 5 rotating it would be awesome as fans of college football
5 permanent rivals is too many. 3 permanent rivals and 6 rotation is better
@@jesuschristhomeslice9492this cause then you would have essentially have 4-4 team pods. Like Texas, A&M, Oklahoma, Arkansas as one for example.
No, playing the same teams every year gets tiring.
Don't be scared
Your favorite school can keep their favorite rivals and play more meaningful games less cupcakes
I might be mistaken but according to 247 recruiting rankings there are only 2/3 teams more talented than them
SEC fans and talking heads don't want to hear it but they will find out soon enough.
@@stevejohnson6248I think one point people are missing is that even mid tier and bad SEC teams have more NFL talent than in the BIG12. For the 2023 season the SEC had 367 players where as the BIG12 had 207.
You take out 3 of the top 4 teams (UGA, BAMA, LSU), the SEC still has 218 players. The BIG10 would be the only conference with more NFL players. For example the third ranked BIG12 team was TCU with 19 total players. There were 9 SEC teams who have 21+. The worst team in the SEC has 9 NFL players, which is the same as WVU and more than Texas Tech.
I’m not saying y’all are gonna be bad. I just think y’all are completely disregarding how much wear and tear you’re gonna take throughout the season.
@@INoticeTooMuch1this is true but they’re still objectively more talented than all but 3-4 teams (depending on how you factor portal rankings) per the talent composite
Tech fan here. I hate the longhorns. But the sec might be in for a rude awakening. And hurts me to say it 😂😂
The way their schedule is set up is brutal all their rivals on the road and got Oklahoma and Georgia back to back. That stretch from Florida to A&M ain’t no joke
I got them going 8-4 only because how their schedule is setup but if they win more it won’t surprise me cause they’re a good team
@@ssippilandelta4365 8-4? I can be happy with that.
@@ssippilandelta4365 there is a slight chance a 8-4 SEC team makes the playoff , I think people forget with the 12 team playoff now 9-3 and 8-4 actually is a good season now especially when playing in the SEC
@@Hillcountryoperations that’s wild, and what’s interesting an 8-4 get to the playoff and starts playing like a 11 win team
Lmao Sec shouldn’t have even made the playoffs last year 😴 bias is unreal
Texas beat Bama last year, champ of the SEC.....
That's a bit of a misnomer, at the time they beat Alabama they were still working out QB problems and drastically improved as the season went on. They got lucky in the SECCG because UGA choked among other things. But the cry of Texas beat the SEC champion? They weren't at the time. This sounds like a mindset that fosters false hope.
@@dairyair5371 Bama never worked those problems out. They needed a miracle to beat Auburn and couldn't pass protect or snap the ball against Michigan. Yet, Bama still won the SEC.
@@dairyair5371brother then how come no other team in the SEC including UGA couldn’t beat bama also then?🤣
@dairyair5371 don't get me wrong, Georgia could have beaten Bama on any given day last season but Bama dropped 4 interceptions in that game. On that particular day, Bama really should have throttled Georgia.
@@NDiddy lol Texas dog walked Bama , don't pretend it was flukey
Texas Longhorn here. Since 2008, our expectations have been dead and buried. I am just happy to watch a game and not be embarrassed...cought...losing to Kansas...cough.
You keep putting Texas over Oklahoma but, seem to forget Oklahoma beat Texas last year. Yes Texas blew out Oklahoma with no quarterback in 2022, but still Oklahoma has owned Texas this decade.
A game that Texas shouldn’t have lost. Y’all had to damn near play perfect just to beat us. We will win in October
@@woodcrest4655Excuses
@@woodcrest4655what game were you watching? OU led nearly the whole game and was disastrous on special teams, but dominated the line of scrimmage.
Texas got happy as hell winning the big 12 😂... OU has plenty of those..
@@ShaunRHouser you did not dominate the line of scrimmage 😂 the only reason you had 100 yards rushing was because of Dillon Gabriel. Y’all couldn’t run between the tackles on us. Jonathan Brooks had 129 yards on you guys. But you controlled the LOS right 😂?
Middle of the road Missouri won the sec east first two years in sec withb12 players lol. A&m averaged 8th place last 10 yrs in b12, but beat Bama at Bama 1st year withb12 players. OU has beaten UT 11 out of last 14 years and won b12 more than the rest of b12 combined.
Texas & OU welcome to the SEC. We’re glad you’re a part of the conference. Keep in mind, you’ll be competing against more than two good teams a year.
Alabama and UGa haven't played more than two good conference games a year.
@@timkinley1779 your not too bright when it comes to CFB. You’ll learn.
Try learning the difference between your and you're. Otherwise, that is twice you have shown that you're out of your depth of knowledge.@mitchellbatchelor1594
@timkinley1779 the classic I have no good response so I'm just gonna insult you're Grammer
@@Proudmid00stoyotacamryownerYour and that isn't grammar, it is spelling.
Josh pate I'm just laughing at your analogy about Texas and Oklahoma just look at Missouri and Texas a&m they're not even better than Oklahoma and Texas and they're doing just fine in the SEC😂
I'm sorry is Kentucky considered good? Because if I recall everybody was shitting all over Louisville for losing to Kentucky last yr like it was a garbage loss...
they’re gonna be the best 8-4 team this year dude. they beat louisville because louisville had a weaker schedule getting by with an OK defense and weak QB
I am NOT a unrealistic OU fan BUT how are yall so sure about UT and then say OU is years away? UT lost their top three pass catchers, 2 best d lineman in the draft. OU has some major questions at Oline but we have some transfer experience and we have one of the best O line coaches in football. At skill positions were at least 2 deep and 3 deep at some positions. Defense stepped up last year and not only have we got a team with more experience now, but we also have amazing young talent coming in. Defensive line positions are all 3 deep and youre not losing much regardless of whos on the field. Our defensive back field is going to turn some heads. UT had a good season last year and I get it. but then they lost a LOT in the offseason to the draft or to the portal. OU has had 3 and abut to be 4 top 8 classes in the nation. Oline and Dline, WR, RB, QB, TE, Danny Stutsman, Billy Bowman and Bowen playing in the secondary.... im just confused where UT is YEARS ahead of OU. And im not saying im correct, im just wondering where yall are coming from. BOOMER SOONER
From this Bama fan Texas will be fine in the sec
TX fan here. I think both TX & Bama will be upgraded versions of last year's teams & I have a feeling Milroe will be in the Heisman race late in the season. See y'all in Atlanta.
One lucky season doesn’t make Texas good. You’ll soon see how hyped they get every year only to end up sucking. Now, OU will be just fine.
@@pureblood3823 " Lucky." 😂
Yea especially since we now dont have to deal with the negative recruiting from the SEC any longer. Oklahoma and Texas back to getting the elite players before the Aggies turn coated and left. SEC should be scared. Oklahoma is coming to win Championships.
I can recall mizzu and a&m did very well in the first few years... better than in big 12.. Mizzu was like 7-1 and 12-2... won the east... A$M was like 6-2 and 11-2... The SEC seemed almost like it had to adjust..
Which they did kinda of... those teams are about like they were in the Big 12... up and down but solid most years..
I don't think you all know what you're talking about when it comes to OU.
Downplay all you want, but this OU team is stacked!
And if they don't make the playoff because of SEC BS, those lovey top dogs like Bama, LSU, will get taken out of it as well.
Can't have it both ways, either fess up about OU or take it on the chin when SEC power teams get taken out by them...
The SEC has the best propaganda machine in sports. People act like the SEC is 2019 LSU, 1998 Tennessee, 2021 Georgia, 2008 Florida, 2010 Auburn all at the same time. News flash: it’s not. You’d be surprised at how difficult it is playing in Ames or Lubbock or Manhattan or Madison or East Lansing in the middle of a long season
LOL I am not scared if LSU had @ Texas Tech or at Iowa St on their schedule. I'd be more scared of @ Kentucky, @ Tenn, @ Arkansas @ Mizzou. I think all 4 of those teams are beating any of those big 12 teams.
Lubbock at night with the Pirate still gives me nightmares.
@@texasforever7887 Playing at Lubbock sucks!
TX got a cake walk of a schedule, but look at OU's. You think a Big 12 schedule can compare to a schedule that includes TN, TX, Bama, at Ole MIss, at Mizzou, at Auburn and at LSU? Those teams ended last year ranked #3, #5, #8, #9, #12 and #17.
This is pretty meh and old take. Ou and Texas have heard it for years since it was announced they would be entering the SEC. Imagine if they both make the SEC title game... that would be pure gold.
OU an Texas recruit better an more talented players then anyone in the sec besides bama an Georgia but they are right there beside them ! Besides Ou an bama ..Ou an texas don’t have to play sec teams , sec teams have to play OU an texas !
As of the 2023 season LSU and UF had more NFL players on active rosters. Texas and OU weren’t even top 10. LSU was 4th and UF was 7th.
To add even more perspective to this, the third best BIG12 team (active NFL players) was TCU; they would be 10th in the SEC.
However I saw another page (247 I think) that had Bama 1, UGA and LSU T-2, Texas and OU T-10.
NFL veterans from Oklahoma will combine to earn more total money in 2024 than any other school not named Alabama.
To add more clarity to this, starting in July 2024, Oklahoma will be able to pitch recruits, "come play for the SEC's all time leading producer of NFL Draft picks"
OU’s defense is top tier by roster standards, fantastic receiver core and a great youngster at qb. If that o line plays well they will surprise some teams. I feel OU being dismissed prematurely
no OU just sucks.
@@darrylbrown8253 Says a fan of a team we probably beat last year, or have a winning record over.
@@tarheeledsooner3920 49-0....Cant figure out what team to root for? So when Texas beats down ZeroU you cheer for NC but when you escape with the refs you want to claim the chuck wagons. You are the pure definition of a troll living in mommy's basement.
@@darrylbrown8253congrats on that 49-0 win against a team playing a TE at QB. You should be super proud that’s the only time Sark has beaten the Sooners. Mack Brown was 7-9 against OU, Charlie Strong was 1-2, Herman was 0-4, and your beloved Sark is 1-2.
Good luck this year though.
@@tylervanmarter7303 facts
That's what I hear all the time Texas and Oklahoma are not ready for the SEC but I don't think that's true I think the SEC is not ready for Texas and Oklahoma so yeah you keep on talking that bull crap
Hot take from a channel that has such great content like ai makes baby nfl coaches and the never been done before rank the trophy. Nobody wins them all and no one stays on top forever yet Oklahoma has been consistent for over a hundred years now so we know we will be okay.
Texas & OU aren't ready for SEC, New Mexico St sure didn't mind 🤔🤔
Texas and OU will finish in the top half of the conference, and Texas will be in the top 3. OU has had a couple hiccups, but they'll be near the top in a couple years as well. SEC is the best, deepest conference, but Texas and OU are still better than the majority of those teams
I’m a lifetime Sooner fan, but lived in Columbia, SC for a year. I was shocked to see Gamecock fans so passionate despite not winning a conference for 50 years. They packed the stadium, 80,000. A long way from Lawrence and Fort Worth where they draw 40K.
Passionate about mediocrity. How special.
GameDay in Columbia is all about tailgating and the first quarter. Everything after that is miserable.
South Carolina has great fans coming from a Tennessee fan .
@@timothyjones1906What does being a Tenn fan have to do with anything?
YOU WILL FIND OUT ALL THESE SHORT HORNS AND OAKY DOKEY FANS IN HERE TALKING CRAP, YOU BETTER BRING A EXTRA LARGE JAR OF KY JELLY 😆 🤣 😂
What you aren’t talking about is any time Texas and OU go into a game they are the Super Bowl for most teams. We have a target on our backs and we know we are getting their best. We are aware of how tough the floor of the SEC is and that it is higher than the floor of the Big 12 or any other conference. We “Texas” are ready and will be as advertised, we have the depth and have been building for this. We have a staff with SEC experience, who know what it is and will be ready. Just hide and watch what is coming!!
You SEC fans are annoying af. Y’all are talking just as confident as Texas fans. Come get some
As a Texas mega fan, way too many people are sleeping and hating on OU. They will content for SEC champ just fine. The new big 4 in SEC will be OU, Texas, Georgia and Bama
We will see... I do not think OU and Texas are in the conversation with Georgia and Bama. It has not been that long since OU and Texas were 6-6 type teams-- in fact OU was 6-7 in 2022. Texas was 5-7 in 2021.. and only 8-5 in 2022. And we all know the Big 12 is not the toughest schedule to face. So I would not be overly confident thinking you are going to run the SEC.
@@jimwheeler4266 ESPN's 150 Greatest Teams of All Time
OU and Texas have 11 of the top 50
the entire SEC has 9 of the top 50
OU and Texas are definitely in the conversation with Georgia and Bama
@@jimwheeler4266 the reason why OU and TX had 5-7 or 6-6 seasons was because of coaches getting fired or leaving so there was transitions to different coaches trying to build their teams.
You don’t mind if we play the games do you. OU & Tex-ass will show up and play and hold their own
As a normal human, I like how your reason for the red river rivalry being better was something no normal human would get to experience.🎉
If you ever get the chance to go to a TX/OU game even as a normal person, you would understand. Its just different.
@@olumideaje9612 if you were to ever go to an Arkansas Vs LSU game during thanksgiving weekend, you’d realize, it ain’t shit compared to some angry Cajuns hating on ya but also giving you the best tailgated food you’ve tasted, it doesn’t just mean more dog.
@@MatthewThomas-c6u A casual isn't taking anything from an LSU/Arky game and I'm not really sure that game even registers to anyone outside of those fanbases. LSU/Bama and LSU/Florida are probably much bigger deals to the Cajuns.
I've got buddies that are Ohio St, USC and Miami fans that have attended TX/OU and agreed that its different.
OU goes 3-1 vs Bama since 2000. Texas beats Bama last season.
SEC cult: you aren't ready.
Reality: Bob Stoops record vs Alabama, Tennessee, and Auburn 6-0
Y'all are scared and you know it. Texas will contend for the conference title and I promise you, regardless of Oklahoma's brutal schedule, They'll get to double digit wins.
What happens when OU and Texas are playing for the SEC championship next year?
What you, Crain and Company, do not understand is that both Texas and Oklahoma have played in the BIg XII for years when the target by all other conference teams was on their back.
Week in and week out, the Longhorns and the Sooners always anticipated a dogfight, because they always got the best effort from their Big XII opponents.
You should not think that the Longhorns or the Sooners will take any SEC opponent lightly, because they are used to having to bring their A game each week.
The only real transition for UT and OU will be in having more travel more to games.
High levels of delusion. 😂😂😂 keep thinking like that
Keep fanning the flames. We thrive on it in Norman.
Oklahoma will not have any problems in the SEC. OU won’t win the SEC every year like it did the Big 12, but will win the conference every 2-3 years.
OU thrives with that chip on their shoulder… ou may not win it all, but they will beat down each and every opponent!
Ou winning the SEC every 2-3 yrs? Lol Georgia hasn’t done that yet.
People are sleeping on OU.
OU has a lot less questions than people think they do.
As a Mizzou fan I remember vividly everyone telling us Missouri was a small fry and not ready for what was coming.....then we won the east back to back.
Also, Mizzou and OU fans have a vitriolic hatred for each other, that is going to be a rivalry revived.
I agree Mizzou was ready but y'all do benefit from the best home field travel advantage in the SEC. It's kinda brutal for Florida UGA and South Carolina having to travel to y'all. And to be clear y'all got stomped in both ur SEC championship game appearances. Yallve been a good team borderline great but never actually a stud.
Lets not pretend the SEC east was very good back then
Good point....the one guy says the Georgias and the Alabamas...... Hello..there is Only one of each. 🤣🤣
Georgia will have the #1 D, after that 2 - 4 is wide open and OU and Texas will take 2 of those spots.
The guy in the middle should really do some Homework....
Josh was the Only one making sense......🍺🍺
Then what happened the next 10 years as a doormat
Mark richts only 8 win season. Seriously. Mizzou hasn't won anything since Bush was president
The SEC is better, but these guys are playing it up way too much.
Um, as a Texas Ex, we don’t have any preconceptions as to what to expect. There will be an adjustment period and they know that. It’s the media that has all of the fanfare.
Now, in other sports, the addition just made the conference even harder. ie the best 2 softball teams just joined the conference.
As a diehard Longhorns fan I laugh at you. The question shouldn’t be is Texas & OU ready for the SEC, but rather is the SEC ready for them? Yes we hate OU, but we (Texas & OU) have pushed each other and made each other greater for years. And for a couple of professional “talkers” to sit around discounting us is just more “tacklin’ fuel” for us. You too will fall in line BEHIND us.
As an LSU fan, I can't wait to see Oklahoma travel to Tiger Stadium on Thanksgiving weekend. I wish we were getting Texas this year or next year in Tiger Stadium.
The purple Cubs ain't shit.
@olemancharles4108 not saying they are, but it should be a good game
Everyone is hoping for a night game so there is no excuses either way. I think it's going to be a great game.
@@stevejohnson6248 I'll be surprised if it's not a night game
@@stevejohnson6248 That game is going to be about 17-24. Great game to bet the under in. LSU is going more single back this year. Look for 12 personnel and under center and playing for TOP. We have a gunslinger but we have 3 REALLY good backs that we are confident in.
Prior to last year, aggy last 11 years in big 12, they were 41-48. In their first 11 years in the SEC, they were 48-41 in the conference
A&M and Texas is a way bigger rivalry that OU Texas
lmao
I know OU and Texas have had a long rivalry but I feel like it only got played up after Nebraska and OU stopped playing and OU needed a big rival (besides Oklahoma State)
Ive been an Ou fan since i could walk. My prediction is based off of a pattern ive noticed throughout the years. Which means we will surprise the Sec this year by beating the teams we "should not" beat and then lose to a few sub par teams. Which means LSU, BAMA, OLE MISS are on the hit list. One if not two of those three will go down. Ive never been more excited for a year of football in my life.
There is no best rivalry game anywhere in CFB. There are tiers at best
In less than 3 years, Texas and OU will want to leave. It will be too embarrassing for them. They are fine for the Big 12. But they are now out of their league. Maybe the mountain west is a better fit. Those 2 misfits may demand more money than all other SEC teams and try to destroy that conference as they did the previous 2 they destroyed. The SEC has most of the NFL talent and more 4 and 5 stars. They are uses to playing against Kansas and Baylor.
You Big 12 fans are just coping too hard. Y’all are gonna miss TX and OU 😂😂😂 they don’t need y’all
Texas and Oklahoma have the most winning records against SEC opponents and Texas recently beat Alabama in Alabama.
@GabrielMartinez-sd8pc lies. OU brings in stats with Missouri when they player Missouri that was not even in the SEC at the time. Look at OUs record but remove games played against Missour. And Texas played Texas a&m when they were a military school not even in the SEC. Just more lies from Texas and OU
Josh, I understand your point, but you are wrong. Oklahoma is 17-8 against Texas in the last 25 years. Oklahoma will never sit behind Texas on the bus!!
Careful, you are starting to sound like a Bama fan. LOOK WHAT WE DID YESTERYEAR!
@@dairyair5371 and that was what? Go to the CFP? Screw Texas, we will never take a back seat to them!
The problem is that it’s a narrative that the media is pushing about Oklahoma not being up to the same standards as Texas lol 😂 they are literally stacking the deck against OU lol Texas has a cupcake schedule comparatively against OU’s. Every single SEC game OU plays the opponent either has a bye week previously or a fbs/vandy the week before South Carolina is the only exception. Giving everyone two weeks to prepare for OU lol guess the powers that be know what the truth is that they have to actively try to keep OU down or this will be just like every conference we’ve ever been in OUr conference
Oklahoma has owned Texas not even close over the last 25 years it will not change dominance hands down baby boomer
People forget that Oklahoma beat Texas last year and won 10 games. This is coming from an OkSt alum
Let me get this straight. The two states overflowing with oil money won't be able to out NIL those sorry excuses for states which have populations smaller than any one of the major Texas metros except for the obvious like Georgia and Florida. Texans won't say anything bad about Tennessee. We can't repay them. Alabama is the real sad story moving forward.
A&M went 10-2 in their first year in the SEC and Mizzou went 11-1 in their second, before they started recruiting at a SEC level. Acting like Texas is going to struggle with Vandy is a little overblown
Missouri went to 2 straight conference championships.
A&M was because of Johnny Manziel they haven’t done anything since. Sure Missouri won the East and went to the SEC title game it’s first two years but they got their ass kicked in Atlanta by the west both times and they’ve been irrelevant since. Thanks to NIL they’ve been able to put up a fight the last year or 2 though but still not on the same level
@@paulshears5202 A&M was an average team in the SWC and in the Big XII.
@@paulshears5202 so MU was the second best team in the entire conference those years with 2 and 3 star recruits. Let's see what we do now when our SEC coach of the year has his pick of 4 and 5 star recruits.
A&M and Mizzou had big 12 players when they joined in 2012 when all those players left that’s when they had to recruit SEC level athletes.
you guys are right Texas and oklahoma fans wont fit in. we can all read, we dont marry are cousins, we can count passed 10. All you uncle daddies and Aunty Mommies arent ready for us
OU owned Mizzou and TAMU prior to the SEC. UT and OU have wins over Bama in the Saban era. OU worked Auburn in the Sugar Bowl. Georgia won the big Rose Bowl but only after their vaunted D coughed up 500+ yards to the OU offense. Bama, LSU, and Georgia are great football teams. The remaining SEC teams aren't better than the Big 12 teams were. Could OU and Texas have tough first seasons? Sure, but I don't see them struggling to compete long term.
Texas as well, we ran A&M off. Got tired of living in our shadow, surprise mf we're back...
What Texas and OU fans dont understand is Sec teams bring their A games every sat. No easy games. League is loaded with talent.
OU and TX will be fine. 80% of the SEC is mid
Iron bowl best rivalry no argument
Dude. Stfu. They’ll be fine