Right we all know ubisoft missions are just something like a side quest. It wouldn't be it's own area and the rewards aren't going to be good. But Formsoft makes almost whole games for dlc and adds more stuff then most AAA games have all together 😂.
FromSoftware just doesn't mix them. Makes it better tho, having a bucket of cake AFTER the bucket of sh!t is more rewarding, and better, than having just two buckets of messy semi-sweet sh!t.
“We made an extra mission. It’s an additional $60 and last 20 minutes.” “Hi here’s our DLC. It’s the size of the base game. It’s $40 and will take you about 60 hours. If you buy it Miyazaki will kiss you on the mouth.”
@@OmegaBlue-gb5bu lol wdym by fanboying. I still won't buy outlaws just because Ubisoft owns it. It will probably be a mess trust me and not worth any of the extra money. pre orders are kinda fishy by nature but fromsoft has a very clean track record. They always deliver while ubisoft games as of late are meh at best.
Because Fromsoft is known for making quality games and DLC that rivals the base game. It doesn’t feel like cut out content, it feels like what DLC should feel like; an expansion of the base game.
What's even better is they will use cut assets in later installments. Bless those developers, if only they could dedicate just a bit more time to flesh out the late game areas. But, that's alright in my book.
Especially since the dlc might add possible hundreds of more hours to the game, the base game nearly took my a hundred hours to reach the final boss, can't imagine how many more I would have with the dlc
To them, it's like, "Eh, you know the game is 2 years old, still finding some new stuff... Here's a DLC that is basically the Elden Ring+ and with even more new stuff so CCs can keep making videos, and the story is now 250 hours long... I wonder if it's enough." @marker7753
Yeah, that's like 150+ hours worth of content... for a single playthrough, chances are most players are going to want to do multiple playthroughs too, sure those subsequent playthroughs will be faster but doesn't mean they'll be any less worth it.
And no extra bs! You get access to everything just by playing the game normally, no shitty micro transaction, no special paid only cosmetics, everything is available! You just have to git gud enough to earn it
It's called bang for the buck. If this was any other publisher/developer, Ranni's quest would be a DLC or would only be available in the more expensive editions.
Holy shit you for real? I stopped gaming about 2013 when my 360o died the true death and life was very challenging for me. Early last year I bought a ps4 and have played almost nothing but really good games, God of War, Jedi Fallen Order, The Last of Us, Ghost of Tsushima Sekiro and Elden Ring. I haven't really experienced all the insane greedy bullshit this AAA developers have put gamers through. I believe what 100%, it really opens my eyes to what these thugs are with people's hard earned money.
I love how fromsoftware is represented in this short. When Jacob says that he can't justify spending $40 on dlc, fromsoftware accepts it and doesnt complain. Edit: gang I got elden ring, it's absolutely worth it
Them they’re like: Wait…really?!? When he says he’s buying the collector’s edition. see being loyal to your customer base actually nets you more profits without need for cash grabs
@@kriegsmanjaeger5545 Probably because they estimate the amount of tries you take on each boss as a lot lower than it takes most players. Like the testers have played this so much by the time they check how long it really is they can do every boss in 1 to 3 tries.
@@kriegsmanjaeger5545 I remember that, it was so funny cause a couple devs poked fun at Fromsoft for making a small open world game "we have 80+ hours of content in X game!" They got quiet on release lol. At least until the UI silliness.
Difference is From software took us out on a 100+ hour date and treated us like Queens and Kings before politely asking us to lay down in their bed for 40$.
This is the difference between buying a fully finished game and buying the game to help finish it I'm tired of waiting 6 months to a year for game to be even somewhat playable
@@A120AMIR12 Those games are still finished games as opposed to the modern day AAA game, which are premium alphas. Also, 5-10 for an indie is a huge exaggeration on top of the fact that good AAA games usually take about that long also? BG3 was about 5-7 years iirc.
@@A120AMIR12 I mean true we do have long waiting periods but usually we get playable games that are not too broken or too overpriced halfway through development. they don't oversell or try to make us pay for more content on release.
@@zerrrro yeah completely agree with both of you But this guy was complaining about 6to 8 month waiting and I was like that's rookie stuff for us I was complaining about that part for the part that the games are incomplete/bad That's literally why I'm in the indie community
There was an interview where Miyazaki said he wouldn't do a straight up adaptation game since it limits his vision on what he can do inside the game, instead to leave it as only references.
Fuck brand loyalty. Brand loyalty is for mark ass suckers. If From releases a trash game, we'll all call it trash and not buy. If From becomes Ubisoft, they should be treated as such.
Not so much loyalty, it's about value. No one with any sense will buy a £50+ "dlc" that adds like 1 mission and a few skins. but an entire expansion worth of quests and hours of good quality gameplay, sign em up
And may also come down to I don't know earned Trust through quality products over the years Bungie used to have this before in the 2000's with the HALO Series this is what happens when you treat your customers right
The fact that the jabba's dlc is buyable from day one is proof that the mission is not an extra, it's just a portion of the base game removed from the standard edition.
yeah thats it. in the end it really comes down to marketing even if both was always planed it just come off as greedy. Pluss no one want to be excluded, and makinge a "rich only" club just has a bad taste. Like: are you making a game ore are you just asking us to give money. Also starwas is old, Elden ring is new. like oh i get "jabba" wonder who "jabba" no, we all know jabba, you just milking old nostalgia with no innovation involved.
@@MouseGoat Fromsoft dlcs are polished, and add alot of content, in dark souls 3 dlc was improving game by alot, i would say that this section was more polished than rest of the game, bosses were much better and harder for sure.
$40 for one mission vs $40 for an entire new area, story, bosses, leveling system, new weapons, new armor, new weapon types, new incantations, new sorceries, lovable characters, npc quest lines, connections to the main game, and the boss fights are fun.
@@gaeron1305 There's another new AC game? Edit: I just realized I was talking about Armored Core, and you were probably talking about Assassin's Creed.
Day 1 DLC is insane. That means that whatever is in the DLC was either originally part of the game, then cut out as a cash grab, or it was developed from the beginning as a DLC, before the game was finished. Either option just gives the image of greedy, money hungry, player hating companies.
Fromsoftware has also had areas that they scrapped or didn't finish. Then later added to a dlc or another game. However fromsoft makes them an entirely different. Ubisoft just adds thing that already should have been in the game. For the low low price of a 150$
ironically giving me a justifyable reason to encourage piracy for a game that is called star wars outlaws. ubisoft can suck a fat one for their practices.
the best part is...Jabba and his missions are in the game apparently. so you are dopping 40 bucks just to get 2 or 3 more missions. the big different between this and DLC unfinished areas is. those unfinished/scrapped areas wernt finished before the game came out. day 1 DLC is litterly already in the game files...you are just paying 40 bucks to unlock existing content for an extra 20min of gameplay (also. tecnically this is DLC BEFORE the release...as you can play with that 'dlc' 3 days before the game comes out. making it day -3 DLC)
I'm glad to see the term "Expansion" coming back into play however within a year we'll be seeing "Bubble Guppies weapon camo expansion" because AAA Devs aren't gonna Google it
with 925 hours in Elden Ring, I feel like I'm scamming Fromsoft at this point whenever I play. When you break it down it comes out to under 7 cents per hour played lmao
And that's where Strauss Zelnick(the guy from take 2,GTA,bla,bla,bla)says he thought about charging BY THE HOUR cause the games they make are so content heavy its not enough charging 60 or 70 bucks for a full game. I'm guy who has tons and tons of hours on some games so imagine paying a dollar for each hour of those games.I would go bankrupt.
Fromsoftware’s “DLC” is practically a standalone game given the amount of content. From what I can tell, the self-portrait DLC from Ubisoft is ONE mission.
There’s bothing to support this. The longest a fromsoft dlc goes is like 5h. I don’t think the doc will be bigger then twice the usual ones as it costs twice as much
I genuinely think Ubisoft and EA are deliberately pumping out more and more garbage content and continuing to Hemorrhage money as some sort of scheme to avoid paying higher taxes. You can’t pay taxes on nonexistent revenue.
@@justinh9674 you can “not think the dlc will last twice as long”, but you have no clue. FromSoft always expands and goes beyond what the base game does with the new bosses and areas to explore. Maybe if you speed run the ringed city you could maybe do it in like 8 or 10 hours but I completed it full and got about 20-24 hours out of a 20$ dlc. I will always root for FromSoft and the fact that they purchased the rights to Eldin Ring from Bandai Namco just proves that they wanted to completely blow our minds with no due dates forced upon them by the publishers. Just wait for it and we shall see which reigns supreme
I agree with the first statement but the second... If you do it blind and dont speedrun it you get more than five hours at EVERY DLC! Its possible that the ds1 DLC isnt five hours but even that you get more than 5 hours if ds1 is your first/second game from the soulsborne series. So your saying that Old Hunters, Ringed City and the other Ds3 DLC AND every Ds2 DLC not more than five hours (per DLC) are?!
It's actually even worse because ubisoft is charging 110 minimum just to get their Jabba mission while Fromsoft is charging 40 bucks for an expansion for a game that's been out for years now.
Ubisoft charging you $30 for a single hotdog and then charging you extra for the ketchup &/or mustard that should have been included with the purchase of the hotdog. While the Fromsoftware sells gourmet hotdogs with all the fixings, fries and a drink for $40
My first interaction with Fromsoft games was Armored Core 6. First a little story time. I bought most expensive preorder of Dying Light two, i liked the game but some aspects of it were unpolished as it tends to be with new titles and it improved a lot over the years but story is absolute shit towards the end, game was advertised with how much your choices mattered but 3 out of 4 endings are basically same and only different one is the bad ending. I went into AC6 without much expectation, i knew its a hard bullet hell with mechs. I cried at least 3 times and only one was because of difficulty. The story is masterpiece the gameplay is super fun and even tho some of the choices are there just to make a choice and no one hides it the characters still make you feel like it mattered at least a bit and deeper you dive down the rabbit hole of references the more you appreciate how much effort was poured into that game.
FromSoft, hiding DLC sized(for other games) locations behind a toilet wall that can be opened only if player stares at it for 3 hours while hanging upside down:
Makes me think of the painted world in Dark Souls 1. Almost any other company, and there'd be a pop-up prompt to pay to "experience" it when you touch the painting, lol.
I dont think anyone should be loyal to a company and take anything they put out. This is just having trust that the chances are higher that its good than Ubisoft delivering a steaming pile of shit.
Idk about loyalty, it's value. no one with common sense will waste 130 for an extra few missions, skins etc. But an entire game expansion with hours worth of play time. and people will spend 40+ easily. sure the company respecting their customers helps, but the main thing is the value you get from the game. is it cost effective with the entertainment you gain.
@@emetanti tbh the problem is unfounded loyalty, people will go to the same shitty brand over and over thinking it's better than all the others, when in reality it's over priced and half put together by sweatshop workers and underpaid interns. If people sacked off loyalty to a brand name, and only bought things worth what they cost, then companies wouldn't be able to price gouge. But they know 100's of 1000's of people will buy what ever they churn out for how ever much they charge. Looking at you apple...
if you ignore the star wars bs and price 40 dollars for a dlc is hella expensive and the justification is "good brand" nah fam baldurs gate 3 goes on sale for 40 dollars re4 remake dlc was 10
Got to think people. When a souls-borne game is made and there's a DLC to it, it's not going to be just simply one or two extra levels and a couple new bosses. No, it's going to be an entire miniature sized campaign that's going to take you anywhere from 2 to about 8 hours to complete. Unless you're a speedrunner then probably going to be like an hour and a half tops
So basically like New Vegas and it's 4 big DLCs. All of them featured maps that were like a quarter of the Mojave in size and had their own campaigns that took... 6-8 hrs to go through.
If you think this expansion is gonna take 2-8 hours I got news for you pal... If its truly slightly larger than limgrave but more dense with content, we're easily looking at 20 hours for a rushed playthrough and 40-80 for a slow and steady run.
they deserve it for the money they're asking. its like if theres 2 equidistance toll booths charging the same amount, but only one is willing to use their proceeds to pave the road its on
I actually dont understand why AAA developers even think like that anymore... Literally just put in the work and make it a fair price and an actually finished and polished game and we would GLADLY pay some extra money for stuff here and there. Its a shame
@@LOLDEMOS I mean I'm not gonna spend that much money on a star wars game. Even tho I fucking love Star wars. But I will definitely buy the elden ring dlc
@@tanjaadler5139Ok but all the demigod fighting for the throne of elden lord would have ended up as markia's consort unless they had their own emperina(with the only emperinas know being other children of Marika) to replace her incest was already an issue they ignore Which yes Is absolutely disgusting
Ubisoft likes to release games with paid "DLC", while FromSoftware likes to do the original method by releasing completed games, and later introduce game-sized DLC for almost half the price of the base game.
@@grimmnightshade7174That is not a very good way to measure how worth it what you're getting is... the value of a DLC is much more subjective. Storage space taken can be affected by poor optimization
Destiny 2 is the same way. When you buy a dlc from them, it usually involves getting a new 10-hour campaign if you play legendary mode along with a raid, dungeon and lots of side quests, not to mention the piles of weapons and armor that you get for playing through all the listed activities.
Literally this. On top of being woefully incomplete or lacking in content on launch, Ubisoft have already let their fan base know that what they are buying isn’t truly theirs. Why buy a game that might be revoked in the future?
As an aside, fuck Ubisoft. But, this quote is taken out of context. It was answering a question about what would be needed for game subscriptions to become a more lucrative. It's the correct answer to a hypothetical question, not a demand upon gamers. Now of course, when they start making moves to try and force games into subscription models, then we riot.
There's also the fact that the DLC is practically an entire game itself, for only $40. vs buying a game stripped of content for $70, and buying the full game for $130, which is what these "Editions" always do.
“Yes, our $130 Ultimate edition comes with so much! The best part is, you don’t even own it! We can take it away from you at any time, and offer no refund!”
Trust is an important thing. Anybody that has played any of the fromsoftware DLC will know that they care about the quality. They have not disappointed and dont plan to. Ubisoft has been dumping garbage for years and wonders why people dont care anymore. Its time they learned a lesson.
they are also worth it in terms of playtime. I can guarantee you the jabba the hut mission is gonna be 20mins tops. EA and Ubisoft have pretty much buried their reputation under a mountain of greed
plus the infamous quote from ubisoft that basically says something along the lines of "be prepared to not actually own the games you pay for" you can look the full quote up but that's basically what they said and apparently in 24 hours since that quote, their stock dropped like 20% or something along those lines, it was a few months ago at this point
Exactly why people trust FromSoftware they care enough about their playerbase that they don't get mad when people don't buy their dlc which boosts dlc sells because of their reputation with the playerbase.
The fact is that Elden ring DLC has been in the works for 2 years and is probably bigger than we think it is. Miazaki also has had a history of being humble about his games lengths, he orginaly said elden ring was a 30 hour experience and now he said the DLC was just a bit bigger than Limgrave.
That's because Fromsoft actually offers quality for what we are buying and Ubisoft does not. Plus Miyazaki tends to undersell his own work so when he says "it's about the size of Limgrave" it is probably bigger.
@@Fellcat101 Yep it includes a small part of calid the siafar river area, and then the weeping peninsula, as well, which is a lot of land and even then he’s probably understating it
One for $40 gives you 1 mission, 3 days to play early, and a couple of cosmetic items which may take you all of an hour or two to tide you over for a brand new game from a company known for egregious buggy games who said you shouldn’t own your games. The other for $40 is said is has enough content for an additional 40 hours of game time from a company literally known to put in love into the game and of which the game has won hundred of awards.
ER is so overrated though. 40 is way too much for ANY DLC even if it was 600 hours long. Approaching entire new game prices here. I don't care though I don't buy games until they are on super sales.
@@escapetherace1943Then you don’t have to get it, but it was stated in an interview that the ER DLC will be at least two thirds the size of the original game. Its price and development time are BECAUSE it is an entire other game. Fromsoft doesn’t refer to SoTE as just a dlc but as an expansion.
@@naeusgaming2915 Don't care. I'll buy it for 10 dollars on a sale. Unlike babies I don't need to play something while its brand new. There's so much stuff to play its dumb to ever buy stuff day 1
It's called ✨quality✨
Amen to that!!!!
Hell YEAAAAAHHH.
amen brother
Right we all know ubisoft missions are just something like a side quest. It wouldn't be it's own area and the rewards aren't going to be good. But Formsoft makes almost whole games for dlc and adds more stuff then most AAA games have all together 😂.
@@cowboybeep3542 It's called ✨fun✨
Ubisoft doesnt seem to understand that if you mix a bucket of cake and a bucket of sh*t, you now have two buckets of sh*t.
This comment is severely underrated and I'm giving you a like,
This is actually a great quote
Good quote
FromSoftware just doesn't mix them. Makes it better tho, having a bucket of cake AFTER the bucket of sh!t is more rewarding, and better, than having just two buckets of messy semi-sweet sh!t.
The game isn’t even out yet…
“We made an extra mission. It’s an additional $60 and last 20 minutes.”
“Hi here’s our DLC. It’s the size of the base game. It’s $40 and will take you about 60 hours. If you buy it Miyazaki will kiss you on the mouth.”
And the bosses will kiss your ass goodbye again and again
Actually the extra $60 includes the DLC for Outlaws as well, Jacob is doing what is known as lying his ass off and fanboying.
the game is not as good as Elden ring, the company is fairly surpassed by fromsoft 100000%
@@OmegaBlue-gb5bu lol wdym by fanboying. I still won't buy outlaws just because Ubisoft owns it. It will probably be a mess trust me and not worth any of the extra money. pre orders are kinda fishy by nature but fromsoft has a very clean track record. They always deliver while ubisoft games as of late are meh at best.
Not big as a main game but i Got your point
Fromsoft cooks gourmet pizza. Ubisoft microwaves hotpockets 💀
And charges you for each bite of said hotpocket
Ubisoft: The Applebees of game developers.
Dont diss hot pockets, they aren't that bad lol
A gourmet pizza is still a pizza bro lol "this game is a turb, but this...this is a turd with make up on it. Pretty right?"
I'd say that is incorrect. I'd actually have some desire to eat a hot pocket. More like they microwaved a wet saltine cracker.
It's called reputation. Fromsoft still has the trust of it's fanbase. Ubisoft has dragged their tittles through the mud for years now.
Truer words have never been said
Yeah Ubisoft, get those tittles cleaned up.
@@lawjikgaminglol
@@lawjikgaminglol
Plus with firm software with usually with their DLCs especially for their soul borns games it's more or less another game
1 quest vs. practically a new game
Yeah dude, that Jabba mission probably takes an hour tops. $30-40 for an hour of play time is a raw deal.
*1 quest and a cosmetics dlc
Still not worth 40$
@@Bloodcola769 But $39.99 is a steal!
Facts
@@Bloodcola769 Bruh that's a free preorder bonus, not 40 dollars of content.
Ubisoft is like Godwyn: The body is still around but the soul has long gone.
Goated
But Godwyn has love from Elden Ring Fans due to mystery...Ubisoft is just...a twitching putrid corpse.
😂😂
The similarities are uncanny indeed
40 bucks in a Ubisoft game gets you: 1 mission, skins, a thank you, I think
40 bucks in a Fromsoft game gets you: Elden Ring 2
Right? It really was like Elden Ring 2.
Electric boogaloo
Elden Ring the adventure continues
The most insulting part about jaba, the hut mission, will be a 20-minute mission, where you talk to stupid npcs for 18 minutes and 2 minutes of action
Other AAA companies: "Why do you keep acting like you are better than us!"
FROMSOFTWARE: 🗿
Cause they are
@@LDEIBalways has been.
Haven't seen you in a while
@@AlmostSaDiKAlways will be
@@GunmanCactus true brother
Because Fromsoft is known for making quality games and DLC that rivals the base game. It doesn’t feel like cut out content, it feels like what DLC should feel like; an expansion of the base game.
What's even better is they will use cut assets in later installments. Bless those developers, if only they could dedicate just a bit more time to flesh out the late game areas. But, that's alright in my book.
Yeah, especially since it came out 2 whole years after the game. I’m not detecting any “we cut this from the game to sell it separately” vibes there
Especially since the dlc might add possible hundreds of more hours to the game, the base game nearly took my a hundred hours to reach the final boss, can't imagine how many more I would have with the dlc
To them, it's like, "Eh, you know the game is 2 years old, still finding some new stuff... Here's a DLC that is basically the Elden Ring+ and with even more new stuff so CCs can keep making videos, and the story is now 250 hours long... I wonder if it's enough." @marker7753
Honestly the dlc from the dark souls were so good and you can tell they worked hard on it.
For anyone curious, the digital only version of Elden Ring bundled with the DLC costs $80 USD, which is a good deal to say the least.
Yeah, that's like 150+ hours worth of content... for a single playthrough, chances are most players are going to want to do multiple playthroughs too, sure those subsequent playthroughs will be faster but doesn't mean they'll be any less worth it.
Best $80 ive spent
And no extra bs! You get access to everything just by playing the game normally, no shitty micro transaction, no special paid only cosmetics, everything is available! You just have to git gud enough to earn it
And there are discounts on steam❤
You're looking at almost 200h of game time if you wanna play through that package for the first time.
Shadow of the erdtree is basically a whole other fromsoftware game for only $40.
Ubisoft: Special Hat in game for $50
FromSoft: Sequel to a game, disguised as a DLC, $40.
Ubisoft - Exklusive Mission
FromSoftware - A whole game
Exklisive😭 dam you couldn't have butcherd a word any more
@@kianfazelian450 there is nothing wrong with that, i am a German and we write it mit K 😂
@@GoodHunter89 But you're not talking german
@kianfazelian450 muscle memory, but i didn't slaughter it like you did 😉
@@GoodHunter89ypu💀
4 bucks for a french fry is expensive, 4 bucks for a whole gourmet burger is cheap
In other words, the difference between McDonalds nowadays and Culvers.
Ok
@@frostyorblame
Efficiency
@@boxtank5288Culver’s is goated
Ubisoft literally would never understand this.
It's called bang for the buck. If this was any other publisher/developer, Ranni's quest would be a DLC or would only be available in the more expensive editions.
like the meme that if EA had made Elden Ring, they would make bosses drop 5 runes and instead sell you them in micro-transaction bundles
Holy shit you for real? I stopped gaming about 2013 when my 360o died the true death and life was very challenging for me. Early last year I bought a ps4 and have played almost nothing but really good games, God of War, Jedi Fallen Order, The Last of Us, Ghost of Tsushima Sekiro and Elden Ring. I haven't really experienced all the insane greedy bullshit this AAA developers have put gamers through. I believe what 100%, it really opens my eyes to what these thugs are with people's hard earned money.
I love how fromsoftware is represented in this short. When Jacob says that he can't justify spending $40 on dlc, fromsoftware accepts it and doesnt complain.
Edit: gang I got elden ring, it's absolutely worth it
Them they’re like: Wait…really?!? When he says he’s buying the collector’s edition.
see being loyal to your customer base actually nets you more profits without need for cash grabs
And I think the dlc had a playtime of over 24 hours if you just focus on the main plot or smth
@@tabathavereen8607 that's what they said about the base game and it was most definitely not just 24 hours.
@@kriegsmanjaeger5545 Probably because they estimate the amount of tries you take on each boss as a lot lower than it takes most players.
Like the testers have played this so much by the time they check how long it really is they can do every boss in 1 to 3 tries.
@@kriegsmanjaeger5545 I remember that, it was so funny cause a couple devs poked fun at Fromsoft for making a small open world game "we have 80+ hours of content in X game!"
They got quiet on release lol. At least until the UI silliness.
Difference is From software took us out on a 100+ hour date and treated us like Queens and Kings before politely asking us to lay down in their bed for 40$.
My first date went 182 hours
Well, my date was 400h long (ng+7 ), and it felt amazing all the way to ng+7
Not sure about being treated like Kings and Queens... looking all the deaths that I've gone through lol
@@MaidenlessScrub consider it a bdsm deluxe section.
@@hoangdung7494This.... This made me laugh so much more than it should have😂
Bro this not just a dlc its like a whole game tbh
This video demonstrates the linguistical difference in talking about "price" and talking about "value."
This is the difference between buying a fully finished game and buying the game to help finish it I'm tired of waiting 6 months to a year for game to be even somewhat playable
and if the game is online it’ll be dead before it’s ever fixed
Yeah join indie community we wait 5 to 10+ years here
@@A120AMIR12 Those games are still finished games as opposed to the modern day AAA game, which are premium alphas. Also, 5-10 for an indie is a huge exaggeration on top of the fact that good AAA games usually take about that long also? BG3 was about 5-7 years iirc.
@@A120AMIR12 I mean true we do have long waiting periods but usually we get playable games that are not too broken or too overpriced halfway through development. they don't oversell or try to make us pay for more content on release.
@@zerrrro yeah completely agree with both of you
But this guy was complaining about 6to 8 month waiting and I was like that's rookie stuff for us
I was complaining about that part for the part that the games are incomplete/bad
That's literally why I'm in the indie community
To be fair the $250 dlc also comes with an actual artbook, a digital artbook, a copy of the game’s ost, and An Actual 19 inch tall statue
Digital art book is worth squat, the physical one and that statue though? Gold.
@@NachtjagerVII That statue sounds sweet...
@@MorgothDarkLord83 19 inches of mesmer...
More to the point, we still trust fromsoft enough to know that they will be of decent quality and not some ripoff artist piece of shit.
@@thelonelystankmuncher8879 messmer the impaler 🤤
At this point, I’m surprised that FromSoftware didn’t make a Berserk game. Then again, they did make the Dark Souls series…
There was an interview where Miyazaki said he wouldn't do a straight up adaptation game since it limits his vision on what he can do inside the game, instead to leave it as only references.
Now that the DLC is out, it's really just Elden Ring 2 packed as a DLC
It's called brand loyalty. Loyalty to a company is achieved through loyalty to the customer.
Fuck brand loyalty. Brand loyalty is for mark ass suckers.
If From releases a trash game, we'll all call it trash and not buy. If From becomes Ubisoft, they should be treated as such.
It’s like symbiosis
Ye no shit
Not so much loyalty, it's about value.
No one with any sense will buy a £50+ "dlc" that adds like 1 mission and a few skins.
but an entire expansion worth of quests and hours of good quality gameplay, sign em up
And may also come down to I don't know earned Trust through quality products over the years Bungie used to have this before in the 2000's with the HALO Series this is what happens when you treat your customers right
The fact that the jabba's dlc is buyable from day one is proof that the mission is not an extra, it's just a portion of the base game removed from the standard edition.
yeah thats it.
in the end it really comes down to marketing even if both was always planed it just come off as greedy.
Pluss no one want to be excluded, and makinge a "rich only" club just has a bad taste.
Like: are you making a game ore are you just asking us to give money.
Also starwas is old, Elden ring is new.
like oh i get "jabba" wonder who "jabba"
no, we all know jabba, you just milking old nostalgia with no innovation involved.
And the mission is going to be "collect 40 data pad across 4 worlds to get an outfit that isn't as good as end game stuff"
hey, it work for Bungie when they made both Destiny games
@@MouseGoat Fromsoft dlcs are polished, and add alot of content, in dark souls 3 dlc was improving game by alot, i would say that this section was more polished than rest of the game, bosses were much better and harder for sure.
No.
Ah yes a 40.00 DLC that could have been released as a standalone game and no one would have batted an eye
I mean it is practically a stand alone game😅
$40 for one mission vs $40 for an entire new area, story, bosses, leveling system, new weapons, new armor, new weapon types, new incantations, new sorceries, lovable characters, npc quest lines, connections to the main game, and the boss fights are fun.
_CURSE YOU BAYLE_
NEW LEVELING SYSTEM??
My god there is a new leveling system! I believed you but I just could not wrap my head around it.
When the From Software DLC is bigger than any Ubisoft game:
That's nowhere near being true lol.
@@gaeron1305 lol yes it is.
@@Deucali0n666 You ever played any of the new AC games?
@@gaeron1305 There's another new AC game?
Edit: I just realized I was talking about Armored Core, and you were probably talking about Assassin's Creed.
Never heard of Amoured core
One mission for Jabba vs. a whole second games worth of content.
Also extra content in an unknown game or extra content in a known game
And extra lore you can either decipher on your own or watch hours of content online about
@@theultimatep1e40 Plus getting a 46cm figure of messmer from collection .Worth the money more than Jabba the Hutt
@@thanhhoangnguyen4754those 8 inchesf of Messmer are worth every peny
@@TheBloodGamePL Too true my brother and digital book with the box design it better anyway
Even with the 40 dollar dlc it still costs less in total than the expansions from Ubisoft
The DLC is huge. Pretty much Elden Ring 2 in disguise. Better than pretty much every game released this year so far. Completely worth it.
when the dlc feels like a whole brand new game
Day 1 DLC is insane. That means that whatever is in the DLC was either originally part of the game, then cut out as a cash grab, or it was developed from the beginning as a DLC, before the game was finished. Either option just gives the image of greedy, money hungry, player hating companies.
Fromsoftware has also had areas that they scrapped or didn't finish. Then later added to a dlc or another game. However fromsoft makes them an entirely different. Ubisoft just adds thing that already should have been in the game. For the low low price of a 150$
@@T0e-Mannot to mention the DLC for Elden Ring is released a whole 2 years later so you can expect FromSoft to be cooking some good shit for the DLC.
ironically giving me a justifyable reason to encourage piracy for a game that is called star wars outlaws. ubisoft can suck a fat one for their practices.
May be insane but it’s standard practice these days unfortunately
the best part is...Jabba and his missions are in the game apparently. so you are dopping 40 bucks just to get 2 or 3 more missions.
the big different between this and DLC unfinished areas is. those unfinished/scrapped areas wernt finished before the game came out. day 1 DLC is litterly already in the game files...you are just paying 40 bucks to unlock existing content for an extra 20min of gameplay (also. tecnically this is DLC BEFORE the release...as you can play with that 'dlc' 3 days before the game comes out. making it day -3 DLC)
AAA Developers: “Can’t you do something about your superiority complex?”
Fromsoftware: “But I am superior."
Edit: HOLY CRAP 9K LIKES IN A DAY??
Can't fix what ain't wrong
That's a quote from an anime right?
@@peccator821Yup
@@CatLeone2003which anime?
Complex ≠ reality
I'm glad to see the term "Expansion" coming back into play however within a year we'll be seeing "Bubble Guppies weapon camo expansion" because AAA Devs aren't gonna Google it
Fromsoftware really made a whole ass game and called it a dlc 💀
with 925 hours in Elden Ring, I feel like I'm scamming Fromsoft at this point whenever I play. When you break it down it comes out to under 7 cents per hour played lmao
What only 925hours what a casual.. git gud kid I’m already at 1500k hours 😌
I'm CLEARLY lacking at ~160 hours 🥲
And that's where Strauss Zelnick(the guy from take 2,GTA,bla,bla,bla)says he thought about charging BY THE HOUR cause the games they make are so content heavy its not enough charging 60 or 70 bucks for a full game. I'm guy who has tons and tons of hours on some games so imagine paying a dollar for each hour of those games.I would go bankrupt.
elden ring should cost 120 dollars but I'm grateful it doesn't
I bought the game a week ago so far I’m at 35 hours and have just beat Goldfrey today I can’t wait till I 100% the game cause then I’ll buy the DLC
Fromsoftware’s “DLC” is practically a standalone game given the amount of content.
From what I can tell, the self-portrait DLC from Ubisoft is ONE mission.
There’s bothing to support this. The longest a fromsoft dlc goes is like 5h. I don’t think the doc will be bigger then twice the usual ones as it costs twice as much
@@justinh9674 the thing is, that’s 5 hours of unique gameplay for half the price as one 30 minute mission from Goobiesoft
I genuinely think Ubisoft and EA are deliberately pumping out more and more garbage content and continuing to Hemorrhage money as some sort of scheme to avoid paying higher taxes.
You can’t pay taxes on nonexistent revenue.
@@justinh9674 you can “not think the dlc will last twice as long”, but you have no clue. FromSoft always expands and goes beyond what the base game does with the new bosses and areas to explore. Maybe if you speed run the ringed city you could maybe do it in like 8 or 10 hours but I completed it full and got about 20-24 hours out of a 20$ dlc. I will always root for FromSoft and the fact that they purchased the rights to Eldin Ring from Bandai Namco just proves that they wanted to completely blow our minds with no due dates forced upon them by the publishers. Just wait for it and we shall see which reigns supreme
I agree with the first statement but the second...
If you do it blind and dont speedrun it you get more than five hours at EVERY DLC! Its possible that the ds1 DLC isnt five hours but even that you get more than 5 hours if ds1 is your first/second game from the soulsborne series.
So your saying that Old Hunters, Ringed City and the other Ds3 DLC AND every Ds2 DLC not more than five hours (per DLC) are?!
Dude works for Ubi 😂😂😂
" 😭I don’t care just take the card！"
😂
It's like a hot dog stand charging you 30$ for a half eaten hot dog, when the gourmet restaurant next to it offers you an entire menue for 40$.
and that hot dog was already digested once...
And charging an extra ten bucks for the other half of the hotdog.
10 minutes is half the game?
It's actually even worse because ubisoft is charging 110 minimum just to get their Jabba mission while Fromsoft is charging 40 bucks for an expansion for a game that's been out for years now.
Ubisoft charging you $30 for a single hotdog and then charging you extra for the ketchup &/or mustard that should have been included with the purchase of the hotdog.
While the Fromsoftware sells gourmet hotdogs with all the fixings, fries and a drink for $40
We love Fromsoft, and they love us.
Best relationship for a gamer
FromSoft is more like the abusive relationship with great sex
@@CyberGenesis1 so fuckin tru😂😂 so many things pissing you off but they still around to help you get your mind off things
@@CyberGenesis1 no that's Nintendo
@@papertoymonsters2748Except Nintendo is willing to take you to court. But then again the nights of passion are immaculate
My first interaction with Fromsoft games was Armored Core 6. First a little story time. I bought most expensive preorder of Dying Light two, i liked the game but some aspects of it were unpolished as it tends to be with new titles and it improved a lot over the years but story is absolute shit towards the end, game was advertised with how much your choices mattered but 3 out of 4 endings are basically same and only different one is the bad ending. I went into AC6 without much expectation, i knew its a hard bullet hell with mechs. I cried at least 3 times and only one was because of difficulty. The story is masterpiece the gameplay is super fun and even tho some of the choices are there just to make a choice and no one hides it the characters still make you feel like it mattered at least a bit and deeper you dive down the rabbit hole of references the more you appreciate how much effort was poured into that game.
Ubisoft : Pay the double of price for unlocking one mission
FromSoft: pay 40$ for a whole new game
FromSoft, hiding DLC sized(for other games) locations behind a toilet wall that can be opened only if player stares at it for 3 hours while hanging upside down:
Makes me think of the painted world in Dark Souls 1. Almost any other company, and there'd be a pop-up prompt to pay to "experience" it when you touch the painting, lol.
There's a huge difference between "unlock this paywall" and "we needed more time, work, feedback, and care to make a new microgame within your game"
Amen
True
In both you're paying for new content, it's the same
@@MimiCat44777 quality difference. Also the amount of content to payment ratio is night and day
@@MimiCat44777 It most certainly is NOT.
For those who might not understand. This is called COMPANY LOYALTY. When they do right by you, you do right by them.
its also called like 80x the content...did you see how long the estimated gameplay for the er dlc is?
I dont think anyone should be loyal to a company and take anything they put out.
This is just having trust that the chances are higher that its good than Ubisoft delivering a steaming pile of shit.
Idk about loyalty, it's value.
no one with common sense will waste 130 for an extra few missions, skins etc.
But an entire game expansion with hours worth of play time. and people will spend 40+ easily.
sure the company respecting their customers helps, but the main thing is the value you get from the game. is it cost effective with the entertainment you gain.
@@emetanti tbh the problem is unfounded loyalty, people will go to the same shitty brand over and over thinking it's better than all the others, when in reality it's over priced and half put together by sweatshop workers and underpaid interns.
If people sacked off loyalty to a brand name, and only bought things worth what they cost, then companies wouldn't be able to price gouge.
But they know 100's of 1000's of people will buy what ever they churn out for how ever much they charge.
Looking at you apple...
if you ignore the star wars bs and price 40 dollars for a dlc is hella expensive and the justification is "good brand" nah fam baldurs gate 3 goes on sale for 40 dollars re4 remake dlc was 10
"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become EA"
LOL
Fromsoftware actually sells a good product
Fromsoftware: we release our games once their done
AAA companies: YOU WHAT
Fromsoftware: And with dozens of hours worth of content even for the hardcore players
AAA companies: THE HELL???
Meanwhile Santa Monica 🗿
@@dontmove1085
FROMSOFT: "Oh and its also replayable with unique NG+"
Ubisoft: "AND YOU DONT CHARGE 50 BUCKS FOR THAT?!"
@@dontmove1085Now more like hundreds of hours 😂
Sadly this is to true
Got to think people. When a souls-borne game is made and there's a DLC to it, it's not going to be just simply one or two extra levels and a couple new bosses. No, it's going to be an entire miniature sized campaign that's going to take you anywhere from 2 to about 8 hours to complete. Unless you're a speedrunner then probably going to be like an hour and a half tops
So basically like New Vegas and it's 4 big DLCs. All of them featured maps that were like a quarter of the Mojave in size and had their own campaigns that took... 6-8 hrs to go through.
@@Have_some_plasma I completely forgot about that, although it's been like almost 7 years since I played fallout New Vegas
and this dlc is expected to be 30 hours like a whole new game
If you think this expansion is gonna take 2-8 hours I got news for you pal...
If its truly slightly larger than limgrave but more dense with content, we're easily looking at 20 hours for a rushed playthrough and 40-80 for a slow and steady run.
Good news, this one is 30 hours long!
The argument is just between Hell’s Kitchen and Burger King if u think abt it
Even $5 is too expensive for me when it comes to Ubisoft. I don’t give money to greedy companies.
It’s like that meme about Miyazaki being OO7, O easy modes, O microtransactions, 7 Masterpieces
Bro went the extra mile to give Ubisoft the middle finger
they deserve it for the money they're asking. its like if theres 2 equidistance toll booths charging the same amount, but only one is willing to use their proceeds to pave the road its on
Elden rinhs dlc has more content than their entire game 😂
Ubisoft: "You'd rather spend $40 on a DLC that's basically a whole new game than spend $110 dollars for one mission?"
I actually dont understand why AAA developers even think like that anymore... Literally just put in the work and make it a fair price and an actually finished and polished game and we would GLADLY pay some extra money for stuff here and there. Its a shame
Because sadly some people will still buy it. Might not be everyone but it's enough.
as another TH-camr (I forgot who) once said: companies don’t want your money, they want ALL the money
@Suuperwuuper Arlo says that but he could also be repeating it from another TH-camr.
Let's change it using capitalism. Vote with your wallet see if they learn anything
@@LOLDEMOS I mean I'm not gonna spend that much money on a star wars game. Even tho I fucking love Star wars. But I will definitely buy the elden ring dlc
“That’s way too expensive for me”
“That’s way too cheap for you”
As the meme goes:
Other studios sell DLC and call it a sequel.
FromSoft sold a sequel and called it DLC.
FromSoftware’s DLCs are usually bigger than some full priced games. And they actually add to the story.
FROMSOFTWARE doesn't shove microtransactions in your face. They actually care about their consumers.
The only microtransaction is the part of your soul that Miyazaki takes every time you fight Malenia.
For one microtransaction they discarded, they added one poison swamp
@@dilll3066 on god I died 149 times...
@@dilll3066the way I fucking laughed 😂
I wish Tekken project had the same energy
It's not about the money, It's about sending a message.
and the mets
its about sending a game. a complete game.
But it's also a little bit about sending money. In the form of a message.
Shadow of the Erdtree is literally the size of an entire videogame for 40$.
I will never forget your opinion on the helldivers situation
It's a whole lot more wild to me the fact that Ubisoft expects to sell a game for $130 that they have shown zero gameplay for.
This is like some one making preorder deals for petscop. The game isnt even real
@@jasonnoregretes491 fucking this, Holy shit the con artists drive me mad
lets be real it's to sell ubisoft+ is that's it
Actually, to be fair, there is gameplay. But that was 10 months ago and we haven't seen anything since.
Its like buying fish in the sea
**slams credit card on the table** I’ll have 18 inches of messmer the impaler please
Say what now...
Reminds of the tweet 19 inches of venom
"Queen Marika please compose yourself. And stop offering money for it."
@@SnuggsMcDuffmessmer is her son.he is comfirmed to be the older brother of malenia anf miquella.
@@tanjaadler5139Ok but all the demigod fighting for the throne of elden lord would have ended up as markia's consort unless they had their own emperina(with the only emperinas know being other children of Marika) to replace her
incest was already an issue they ignore
Which yes Is absolutely disgusting
That's the benefit of cultivating goodwill from the gaming community with quality games.
Outstanding Quality versus quantity and popular demand
Either way it's 40 bucks extra. One gives a single quest, the other 20+ hours of gameplay
30+💀
60+
100+ for me easily. I'm 200+ hours in the base game and still haven't beaten it. Loving every single minute of it nonetheless.
@@drayushsrivastava yeah. I just remembered them estimating 20+, now that I've played it, well over 150. I'm already 60 hours in, just best messmer 😭
I spent 65 hours working through the DLC, just finished it today
"Its not about the money, its about sending a message."
"Ubisoft will burn."
Then let's go with steam unlocked
Corporate bs + wokeness as they try to destroy stellar blade and warhammer now. I support the guys who arent greedy and respect source material too
“Do what you want because a pirate is free, you are a pirate!”
As a Rainbow Six Siege player, Ubisoft keeps amazing me every single day, with brand new bugs and glitches and premium content
Ubisoft likes to release games with paid "DLC", while FromSoftware likes to do the original method by releasing completed games, and later introduce game-sized DLC for almost half the price of the base game.
I feel the same way about Monster Hunter.
@@phoenixfire7903 I agree completely
It's a 40Gb dlc and is 40$. gig per dollar is pretty fair
@@grimmnightshade7174That is not a very good way to measure how worth it what you're getting is... the value of a DLC is much more subjective. Storage space taken can be affected by poor optimization
Destiny 2 is the same way. When you buy a dlc from them, it usually involves getting a new 10-hour campaign if you play legendary mode along with a raid, dungeon and lots of side quests, not to mention the piles of weapons and armor that you get for playing through all the listed activities.
Remember, Ubisoft said gamers getting comfortable, not owning every game we used to play it
NEVER FORGET.
Literally this. On top of being woefully incomplete or lacking in content on launch, Ubisoft have already let their fan base know that what they are buying isn’t truly theirs. Why buy a game that might be revoked in the future?
@@brendanmystery based
As an aside, fuck Ubisoft. But, this quote is taken out of context. It was answering a question about what would be needed for game subscriptions to become a more lucrative. It's the correct answer to a hypothetical question, not a demand upon gamers.
Now of course, when they start making moves to try and force games into subscription models, then we riot.
We don’t own them though?
One mission vs several bosses, new environments, weapons, armour, lore, and an overall fresh experience.
Fromsoftware seemed stoned at the end
It's not about the money, it's about sending a message.
I read that with Kingpins voice for some reason
@@kalinkessler5759It’s not always about the money Spider-Man
There's also the fact that the DLC is practically an entire game itself, for only $40. vs buying a game stripped of content for $70, and buying the full game for $130, which is what these "Editions" always do.
40$ for a DLC of this magnitude is totally worth it. You know what isn't? Buying cosmetics from Ubisoft games...
@@IdioteerButRealor a "mission that I bet last less then 10 minutes"
yeah the dlc is supposedly gonna be around the size of limgrave and im pretty sure thats bigger than all of dark souls
@@locallfreak4444 And thrice the size of SW Outlaws ;)
@@IdioteerButReal ubisoft really gotta step up
FromSoftware and Larian Studios actually deserve all my money. They respect their player base and listen.
When money speaks vs when ART speaks
Santa Monica:
"We're just casually gonna drop a free story expansion DLC for all of our loyal fans"
I was waiting to see this comment
Valve: "Our players really liked these survival maps in our horde shooter so we made them canon in the sequel"
@@EthanEvans-nx7dn "And then we are going to let cheaters and bots run rampant through games our players still play"
“And we’ll announce it 5 days before release”
@@Mike-officialbut gave newell 😢
“Yes, our $130 Ultimate edition comes with so much! The best part is, you don’t even own it! We can take it away from you at any time, and offer no refund!”
Wich we will do like we did last year with old games 😊
Or just set sail
If I don’t own the game, Ubisoft can’t accuse me of pirating it when it comes out 😏
Take my money ANYWAY
Wuw dat is da bestist deal ebor! Man I hate Ubisoft so much.
Legally, Ubisoft cannot use the word “hypocritical”
It’s crazy how you can get both dlc and the game for 80$. It’s essentially 2 masterpieces for 40$ each.
Flirting vs Harassment
😂😂😂😂
Trust is an important thing. Anybody that has played any of the fromsoftware DLC will know that they care about the quality. They have not disappointed and dont plan to. Ubisoft has been dumping garbage for years and wonders why people dont care anymore. Its time they learned a lesson.
they are also worth it in terms of playtime.
I can guarantee you the jabba the hut mission is gonna be 20mins tops. EA and Ubisoft have pretty much buried their reputation under a mountain of greed
plus the infamous quote from ubisoft that basically says something along the lines of "be prepared to not actually own the games you pay for"
you can look the full quote up but that's basically what they said and apparently in 24 hours since that quote, their stock dropped like 20% or something along those lines, it was a few months ago at this point
@@callumjones9664 aren't they wiping "the crew" from existence?
@@lizaraVRAccording to TH-camrs, yes they are, didn't bother fact checking it tho
Not to mention, with fromsoft dlc half time it's almost half the size of the base game as far as playtime goes.
the difference is that SotE is basically elden ring 2
its not about price, its about value
Bro when he said that he can’t justify dropping $40, FromSoftware was just like “Yeah, fair enough.”
Exactly why people trust FromSoftware they care enough about their playerbase that they don't get mad when people don't buy their dlc which boosts dlc sells because of their reputation with the playerbase.
Because they care about their customers
@@aidanedwards8931 doesn't seem like it there making a 40$ DLC the game alone was 60
And the premuim edition doesn’t lock content, its just a cool art book
I fully understand that, but when comparing it to Outlaws, I really struggle to not justify it.
Elden Ring: $59.99
+ Massive Expansion: $40
Star Wars: $69.99
+ 1 mission: $40
Bro has to do the same thing for AC shadows and GOT2 announcement
His reaction to the eldin ring DLC.😂
eldin ring my fav game
The last line from*FromSoftware* explained everything.
The fact is that Elden ring DLC has been in the works for 2 years and is probably bigger than we think it is. Miazaki also has had a history of being humble about his games lengths, he orginaly said elden ring was a 30 hour experience and now he said the DLC was just a bit bigger than Limgrave.
Which means triple exactly what he said and you’ll usually be right
literally "shut up, and take my money"
When companies focus on greed vs when companies truly want to create quality stuff.
That's because Fromsoft actually offers quality for what we are buying and Ubisoft does not. Plus Miyazaki tends to undersell his own work so when he says "it's about the size of Limgrave" it is probably bigger.
Not to mention limgrave is bigger and has more in it than most ubisoft games
@@Fellcat101 Yep it includes a small part of calid the siafar river area, and then the weeping peninsula, as well, which is a lot of land and even then he’s probably understating it
One for $40 gives you 1 mission, 3 days to play early, and a couple of cosmetic items which may take you all of an hour or two to tide you over for a brand new game from a company known for egregious buggy games who said you shouldn’t own your games.
The other for $40 is said is has enough content for an additional 40 hours of game time from a company literally known to put in love into the game and of which the game has won hundred of awards.
Basically all their games win all the awards you could wish for lmao
ER is so overrated though. 40 is way too much for ANY DLC even if it was 600 hours long. Approaching entire new game prices here. I don't care though I don't buy games until they are on super sales.
@@escapetherace1943Then you don’t have to get it, but it was stated in an interview that the ER DLC will be at least two thirds the size of the original game. Its price and development time are BECAUSE it is an entire other game. Fromsoft doesn’t refer to SoTE as just a dlc but as an expansion.
@@escapetherace1943dawg what??
your paying for pretty much a 2nd elden ring and you think 40$ is too much?
@@naeusgaming2915 Don't care. I'll buy it for 10 dollars on a sale. Unlike babies I don't need to play something while its brand new. There's so much stuff to play its dumb to ever buy stuff day 1
- That a nice price for DLC this big...
- Well you gonna pay me extra... with your suffering!
it's called you buy quality not a marketing scam