Lex Fridman and Coffeezilla on Andrew Tate and Hustlers University
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Fk Amzn... Walmart needs to DIY, A 2nd hand Dollar Store.
Lex, Andrew is what young men and adult men need to hear.. it’s nice to have a powerful man speak to the younger generation.. we have too many men like coffee that give a soft no ended response, and go “oh well”.. I’m sick of the confused short answer men
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i waiting four you become real mans.
@@aa6973 thank you dear this is kindness for mr tate he is so amazing and number one four ladee.
What people fail to grasp today is that all the big business gurus will never include in their courses the true, genuine ways they've earned millions online. But it's not because they're stingy and unwilling to share knowledge-it's because those methods of earning are pretty unethical, and they'd lose all credibility if they were to do so. There's an ebook that reveals all of these unethical tactics they use; I think it's called Derp Money, and it's absolutely mind-blowing.
Anything to get out of this depressing life of working with people I hate I just wanna live man.
@@SadTattoos really? Anything? So you would scam people and destroy there lifes what makes people kill themselves???
@@SadTattoosThe only person who can change your circumstances is you man. The answer is change up your shit. Your location, your work, your friends, your routines, your hobbies, whatever. If you're not happy, the solution isn't "somewhere out there", it's an action you need to take that you're avoiding (maybe unconsciously).
Life is brutal for practically everyone. You'll be alright 👍
@Traisas nobody wants to participate in their own rescue. Seems like they're waiting for someone to rescue them out of their misery.
@@louio I wouldn't say "nobody", because I myself am certainly doing so, as are other people I know and love. But I definitely agree with your sentiment.
That said, let's also be careful not to place blame too quickly or generally. I don't know about you, but I was never taught to expect to need to do this, nevermind how to do it. It took me until ~35 to finally put it all together, truly understand it, and start moving away from my suffering.
Full circle (kind of) to the OP, there is a vacuum where real world & mental health education, self-analysis, and role models should be. Sociopaths like Andrew Tate are successful because they excel at filling that void. But those who fall for it don't know/have alternatives.... what else are we to expect them to do? I'm not sure.
Lex + Tate would be a great interview filled with undeniable perspicacity
eh?
we get it, you just learned the word perspicacity
@@justiinahirvonen4902 ignore the dumb tate fangirl.
@@skywalkn297 we get it, you just wanted to say something.
my unmatched perspicacity
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What people don’t realize is that when you’re paying for a get-rich-quick scheme, you’re only helping Tate get rich quick. Absolutely none of the “get rich quick” part applies to you.
So True! It’s absurd to see the amount of people doing Gymnastics in their head to protect the idiot.
Have you taken an online course before? They are by no means a get-rich quick scheme.
In life, If you don’t work hard, dedicate and discipline yourself you’re not going to get anywhere in any sector but to label online courses with a false perception grounded in hate is improper and displays a lack of discipline enough to do self research instead relying on political youtubers that make money off their content with no real goal to understand something to the fullest extent.
Better to understand an alumni, someone who has taken things seriously without the intention of “I need to make a video to get the money.”
@@Shaka_Zulu Damn how much money did you give him lol
@@Shaka_Zulu
To be fair, Coffeezilla, while I agree doing a great thing and I watch both him and Tate, he at the end of the day has a bias against all online courses (which he’s explicitly mentioned prior and thinks books/textbooks are only worthwhile).
HU is cheap, has multiple things being taught, and a support group. You can not like it or have your criticisms about the methods and/or methods of learning, but I wouldn’t call HU a scam or a “get rich quick” scheme or a pyramid scheme.
It’s a service that provides value for an online course and is about the price and general theme of a Udemy course but you don’t see Coffeezilla calling that out, and at times even offers it as an alternative to these highly overpriced basic courses being touted by these youtubers so I don’t see why HU is such a huge problem to him.
Would be pretty funny watching Lex and Andrew talk to each other. They are at opposite ends of the energy spectrum.
And the intelligence spectrum 😂 Lex can actually think critically lol
They just think differently. Intelligence is not 1 dimensional
@@micahskariah2384 Tate made $300 million without thinking. You may not like him and that's ok but that guy is smart
@@oliversmith2129 ???? where are you getting that number from
@@KakerouAssociation Tates pumpin in his ass.
Most people who like Andrew Tate don’t even buy into his hustlers uni thing, they just like and agree with the things he says and he gives them confidence
Bitstch git confidens
exactlyy
This is a major point.
This coffeezilla guy is just a top nerd if anything he just exposed himself here as a lame
@@JCB187 wtf is the point here?
My main issue with Hustler university is that they discourage you from regular jobs. I mean, a mechanical engineer vs copywriting ? Are you kidding ? A doctor vs fulfillment from Amazon ? Etc.
Exactly. The world wouldn’t function without teachers, mechanics, nurses, baristas, plumbers, IT Techs, secretaries, janitors, writers, data entry specialists, flight attendants, trash collectors, etc. it’s so stupid to say “we can all be rich and own Bugattis” but he truth is if we all owned Bugattis, people like Andrew Tate wouldn’t want them anymore.
mechanical engineers are over rated. Why do you people always limit success to being a dam engineer?
@@MarieAntoinetteandherlittlesis how was the world before having said teachers, mechanics, nurses,etc...? Did mankind dissapear ? Doing what his Uni says is one way to get rich. Normal Uni is another thing. Right now i have a Mechatronic Engineer Degree(which is way higher in terms of specs than simple mechanic engineer, electronic engineer,...) yet i can't get a fucking 1st job. Why is that? Simply said "saturation". And because of that because should other options. Just like Coffezilla, do you think sitting in your making video than are 50% true 50% false makes you any different to HU methods?
@@donzallo_fx3093 so you rather work for bezos?
@@kekbin1697 It so happens your not limited to one thing in life. Not everyone wants to do mechanical engineering. Open your mind.
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I imagine Lex is one of those guys who when he opens his closet, there are 20 pairs of the exact same suit and he then asks his AI assistant which one he should wear. 😁
he 100% has a little boy in his basement
Haha like the bee movie
As a monke with ocd that would be my dream
No Woodhouse, these are black, and these are slightly darker black
Like the old cartoon Doug.
I'd argue coffeezilla himself is a great male role model and a great person as a whole. There are tons of positive male role models out there, but if we only look at the guys who are sporting the bugattis and telling you you need X amount of money to consider yourself a "real man," then no wonder we think "masculinity is in crisis." The real issue is that we've got our value system backwards thinking that money and opulence are all that matter in life. I think a man who behaves ethically and always gives his best, no matter what he does, even if he fails, is much more admirable than some rich buff selling scams.
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Nobody has ever said you need to own a Bugatti to be a man
@@cyantadeo975 I know of a guy who constantly heavily implies it
This new generation is SOFT cuz they want to all work from home and just be crypto millionaires. Go out and WORK with your hands. Do construction. Learn a trade like plumbing or carpentry or if you’re weak physically, electrician. Lots of role models to look up to in this world. We’ll take you under our wing and teach you how to a man if your dad sucked or wasn’t around.
Now here’s the best part…you wouldn’t believe how many of these tech guy’s hot wives are DROOLING over me as I am doing all the man work around their house that their husband CANT. And I do mean ALL the MAN WORK. 🔨 🔨🔨💪💪💪
@@aneschaoui7273 enough for what? You could have different goals than op does
I never understood the argument of these guys being positive male role models. Telling someone to work out isn't some grand revelation. Role models should be someone you can actually talk to, someone from your community (if not your parents), someone from your field of aspiriation. It is pretty naive and gullible to think people like Tate have your best interests in mind, when they don't even know who you are.
I agree. But here’s the interesting bit that I heard Peterson speak on once.
Some of these young men are so alone and lonely. They almost feel disconnected. They are borderline incels.
So when anyone reaches out to them and guides them. Promises them the world. They fall for it easy.
@@djsauceguy9302 We do see quite a few figures of "inspiration" for young lonely men pop up with supposed solutions without really addressing the core reason for the phenomenon. Sure, Peterson might manage to help out a ton of guys, but until we figure out how to stop new kids from falling into the cycle of loneliness there'll always be grifters like Tate willing to feed on them.
Well said.
Facts
As a guy that fell into this trap in his early to mid-20s. It's the fact someone gives you hope. They give you the idea that if you take enough action and adopt the right mindset things will change for you.
If I can commit to working out everyone will see how valuable I am for committing to this difficult task. I was pretty closed off emotionally from people and didn't know how to form relationships and the people around me weren't any better at these things. It was easy for me to feel like no one cared and I didn't have to endure the judgment of people around me if I looked for help online. Because online you can find someone who "gets" you. Exactly catered to you. People online do a great job of making it sound like it's you vs normies and no one else is willing to work as hard as you.
This was great. I'm going to dig around for this podcast and listen to the whole thing. I have a high degree of respect for CoffeeZilla
He did a fantastic job in exposing FTX and SBF - he is really sharp
@@sophocles8761Exposing? SBF was already exposed since last year. The courtroom decision was everything people were waiting for. We already since last year what contacts he has with the US and China. Not like he found out exceptional matters
@@wintersn899 the questioning and relentless fact digging he did around ftx was noteworthy. Today there are a lot of people who leave the morals behind and are ready to scam whoever they can. So people who expose these scams give hope in an otherwise bleak future.
Lex’s on screen personality has developed so much so quick it’s cool to see, and coffee went from random TH-camr to legit journalist in like a year. Awesome stuff guys
You sound like a bot lol
@@pierer91 all roads lead to Lex Friedman. he is very robotic and pushes the line by not pushing the line. I do believe the "algorithm" wants people to listen to him because his opinions are accepted by TH-cam.
Ya lex went from very interesting student of computer science to guy who thinks he knows everything
Yk that was harsh, but he’s actually interested when talking on his area of expertise
he has down syndrome
Calling Andrew Tate a "philosopher who helped to awake the young men" is revealing of the state of our current critical society.
Having Tate and Peterson as your idols, is a guaranteed way to fail.
@@dodgemF1 no one should idolize anyone. Andrew just says shit to promote his business. Peterson actually cares about people. You can see it in his eyes. And how passionate he is.
@@dodgemF1 thats cool man, they're my idols and i made over 200k this year from tate getting me into crypto and peterson leading me towards taking more responsibility in my life.
@@dodgemF1 Peterson has what is the most important features that makes a man a man and that is: INTEGRITY and FORTITUDE. Thus, a man to admire, he is not even in the same universe as Tate. However, Tate is speaking to the same disaffected, disillusion, misguided and discontented males of our generation that, BY VIRTUE of being PLUGGED IN (WITHOUT AN ORGINIAL THOUGHT) are VULNERABLE to the vanities of lifestyle Tate sales to them.
@@dodgemF1 it's literally the opposite and that's the entire point.
The last bit about "getting obsessed with what you are doing and loving the process" was powerful.
This guy has got Tate spot on. Its so easy to see, yet so many just don't get it
I think that people saying "it feels amazing to be a good father. For your children to love you. For your partner to thank you when you are there for them." They sound passe. Bugatti is something concrete. In reality, it's just male Louis Vuitton bags and male influencer culture. Its just another flavour.
What has he got Tate 'spot on' about? If even 10 percent of the people that join are able to 'better' themselves and make more money than a regular job then it is worth it for them!!
@The Son Man You sound young?? When you get some life experience, then you'll probably be able to answer that question yourself. Think for yourself, don't follow the herd...
@@SP-cx2qi I am NOT following the herd like those lunatic liberal 'sheep' that want you to subscribe to their 'sit down, shut up and do what you are told' philosophy. What would be so bad about trying to better yourself by doing positive things that can make you money, make you physically and mentally better? What is the downside of trying to be the BEST version of yourself?
@@SP-cx2qiseems you’re apart of the sheep herd brokie 😂
I love that Lex asks to Steelman the other side of the argument...this is how progress is made.
Progress in what sense? You realize this podcast and conversation will have a net zero effect on the world a large, right?
CoffeeZillas argument here is stupid.
Everyone has access to trading platforms or Amazon FBA obviously.
Hustlers University teaches teaches you how to use those platforms to make money.
Additionally him saying “Andrew is nowhere to be found” is not a bad thing at all.
Andrew is not a jack of all trades, he got a teacher for each subject to teach their specific trade.
Also he said “Their Teaching someone to get rich quick”
Many people can actually get rich quick because of the internet, and anyone who disagrees is lazy or does not understand the sheer power of the internet. E-commerce stores can make the average salary in a week.
I get nothing from promoting Andrew’s group. Just here to dispel false arguments.
@@nope9698 How confident are you that the conversation will have a net zero effect on the world at large?
@@user-fu3gs9uq1i I’m not sure that’s the most charitable reading of the criticism.
Seems like coffeezila’s criticism is that the value gained is misleading. Paying money to learn what anybody can already learn on the internet is the ‘scam’ part.
I love that Lex does that too. It forces people to change their perspective for a moment and try to find the positives from the other side of the argument, despite how hard it may seem at first. It's at the very least a fun thought experiment and on top of that can be very productive like you said
I don't think anybody has ever thought Lex wouldn't talk to Andrew Tate
Well, he talked to Kanye, Tate can't be worse than a guy who endorses Hitler I guess.
@@kobilee9504 scamming children and poor men is worse than randomly rambling because you’re mentally ill
Never thought that but incertainly hoped lmao. Just seems like there are sooo many more interesting ppl to talk to and give a platform to than a basically more controversial tai lopez who says a mix of true and outlandish things to sell a useless course.
@@elcrucius just say you dont like him
@@koke9754 Fair enough.
I found lex a good while ago through rogan and what a beautiful human being he is. Such a caring, kind and thoughtful person. Just listening to him talk teaches me so much about my own faults as a person and not caring enough about people. He’s such a valuable asset to this social media cesspit we all consume
One of the most boring podcasters to suckle at Rogans teats...
Ehhhhhhh no.
He is just as calculating as any other culture war guy. Can't believe his fans are more naïve than him.
@@steven5054 100000% agree to the above 2 comments.
That's why when I read Lex's viewer's comments, and also look back at his average age audience, I couldn't give a toss arguing with Lex's, dull, easily pleased, lukewarm 16 year old fanbase.
@@elkabz8174 who’s your favorite person on TH-cam ?
16:16 - Agreed! This applies to everything in life. I began my martial arts journey with my eye fixed on becoming 🥋 a black belt.
By the time I was about mid-way through the belt ranks I'd fallen in love with the journey, the motion, the philosophy, and psychology.
Unfortunately, female black belts are a profitable commodity in the martial arts world. My sensei rushed me through the last few belts until black. Don't get me wrong *I worked my ass off* to make it happen because I was NOT going to be embarrassed in front of our International Board of Black Belts. And with 'karate culture' I was told it was disrespectful to refuse to test when your instructor puts you up for a promotion. I just kept pushing forward to meet that original 'goal' -- I never felt like I got time to 'season' before getting promoted to my next rank.
I retired at third degree black belt and I STILL prefer the lower belt techniques _far better_ than the more advanced techniques because of the experience I had learning, engraining, and customizing that motion to fit my body. There are a few techniques I enjoy in each of the advanced belts but overall I wish I had been allowed to enjoy the journey. In the end you realize, the black belt is just an accessory that sits in your gym bag until the next karate class. It's about what you've learned along the way that really matters.
Love your comment so much thank for sharing that! Your honesty is impressive. Honest is the biggest weapon in improving.
Whoops i never did any Belts in Karate because i didnt care for it. I got pretty good but never understood why some of the trainers didnt like me.
Or it was just because i didnt pay them for the Belts.
I stopped after yellow Belt but continued for like 5 years doing the same stuff Brown Belts would do. 🤡
I see a very interesting life lesson in your comment thanks
Yeah it shouldn’t be rushed and it’s a shame. I like the idea of staying and mastering each rank before moving up. Interestingly the same thing happens in music grades now, took me about ten years to get grade 8 piano and my daughter did it in just over 4. There’s a rush to the end for everyone these days, these things have all become industries trying to make profit.
I feel like the notion that being a successful man means you need to sleep with beautiful women is total bullcrap. I see healthy masculinity as being a man that is humble, willing to love others and help where needed as well as take care of himself. It has nothing to do with how many beautiful women you can sleep with...that is basically just a sleazeball that is insecure about something and trying to overcorrect just to have a story to tell other sleazeballs. Ladies, alpha men are not all sunglasses and suits. Some of us were raised properly by our parents!
coffeezilla is crystal clear and has a very good and honest objective. glad he was on the podcast!
I do disagree on his last part, where he says we should be focused on the journey and enjoying our work and what we do, society needs and demands factory workers, plumbers, bricklayers, tons of jobs that definitely cannot all or mostly be filled by people who are passionate about them. Andrew Tate, as shallow as he is has a better perspective on this. He points to the shiny object and says, to get that you need to do things you don’t want to do, that will be better for your wealth and success and society as a whole. Most people like me, cannot chase our dreams unlike Lex and Coffee. I don’t support materialism at all, it’s just their worldview seems narrow because of survivorship bias. Their intentions are better then Andrews though.
@@nekonetflux2258 thats kinda what Coffeezilla said tho, you can listen again
Life satisfaction can come from working on a production line.
I thought I would never have a family and a house. I have 3 children(now 5 with my new Ukrainian family) and a 5 bedroom house. Most would class my job as a dead end job. I get satisfaction because I add value to society and get rewarded. The reward enables me to help other and share love.
Coffeezilla is spot on. Money is the icing on a cake if that is a cake you can share. If the inside of the cake is just more icing it’s a sh1t cake.
@@abadibi yeah if they think coffeezilla is against maintaining production, then they've got it backwards.
not to mention, it only make sense that a self obsessed money hungry person like Tate actually wants the rest of the world to be a poor wage slave for the rich guys so that he can maintain his position at the top and not have any honest people stop him from doing so.
edit: not to imply that "wage slaving" is at all bad, but also Andrew Tate should NOT be dictating ANYONES dreams.
@@ImHeadshotSniper pretty much. Many people enjoy a simple construction job because they derive pleasure from life outside of work.
People are soo damn gullible these days. You can make some confident, persuasive statement and know how to control the masses with your speaking skills. You can take over the world.
And the internet gives those people the platform they need. 20 years ago, before social media, people wouldn’t hear from these false messiahs
Or just control all of the media
Hitler
Hitler almost did that 90 years ago. It has always been like this.
This guy just summarized every monetized TH-camr selling something
Great discussion, which reminded me of this quote.... "Don't aim at success-the more you aim at it and make it a target.
The more you are going to miss it. For success, like happiness
cannot be pursued; it must ensue, and it only does so as the
unintended side-effect of one's dedication to a cause greater than oneself or as the by-product of one's surrender to a person other than oneself. Happiness must happen, and the same holds for success: you have to let it happen by not caring about it. I want you to listen to what your conscience commands you to do and go on to carry it out to the best of your knowledge. Then you will live to see that in the long
run-in the long run, I say!- success will follow you precisely because you had forgotten to think of it." - Viktor. E. Frankl
Coffee explaining what discord was to lex as if he doesn’t have his own server LOL… the response was so modest, he focused on explaining the definition to his audience rather than saying “yeah I know what it is actually”
If you think Lex knows discord like journalists, especially crypto people, know discord, you are wrong.
@@gickygackers Discord is becoming very mainstream. Companies have started their own servers, pretty sure the UK government had a discord server also.
@@gickygackers You keep talking about Discord as if it's some sort of blackbox. It's a literally voice and messaging service.
@@dinmavric5504 hes talking about how discord is being used, not what it is
@@gickygackers your acting like discord is some magical thing that popped into existence as if IRC and other chatrooms never existed
I like that Lex' podcasts don't just portray people and issues as good or bad or right or wrong, there's definitely some grey area that can overlap and Lex does a great job of playing devil's advocate. This is exactly what so many podcasts are missing instead of just incessantly agreeing and pandering to the guest.
Except he failed with Kanye.
@@kobilee9504 I don't agree. I think he was trying best to find some sort of common ground with Kanye to prevent a meltdown and actually converse with him. I honestly thought Lex gave a pretty good amount of resistance to Kanye.
@@colinmiller9221 Yet it was completely clear before that that Kanye is a lost cause and no one is gonna change that. And the fact that a lot fanboys still defend him after his Hitler stuff shows how dangerous that is.
@@kobilee9504 he approached the Kanye interview the wrong way because he made several assumptions about Kanye the man before he met him.
I see this same aspect on JRE. Joe constantly plays devils advocate as well
for a 15yo i would understand why they love AT, yet if you are a grown ass man and you worship this guy, there is something wrong with you
@@markroman843I was a lot of those things and you can add in a heroin and meth addiction as well. But I would never fall for them scams. But I have common sense and come from a decent family even tho I was Fatherless after 11. So I think it has a lot to do with lack of education. I'd much rather listen to the Greek Stoics, Yogis, and Monks who actually give a intellectual view of the greater Universe. Than a dude bragging about his cars and all the women he slept with.
And there's so many dudes defending him in here when he teaches basic common sense. Take care of yourself and be healthy. So you'll have the confidence to approach women. They're better off spending that money on a Psychologist who will help them find the roots of their suffering. Instead of a false prophet that tells you to drown it out with materialism and greed
Bet it's called Hustlers University because by the time you finish your 'degree' you've been hustled.
To the people who don’t want tate on here. Why do you tune into this podcast. This podcast is always about having conversations of both sides. Why wouldn’t you want to hear Lex grill Andrew on his views
To listen to Lex...Duh 🙄 geeezzzz ...u needed that to be said for u to understand...
I rather hear Lex talk to a bowl a soup than Tate. At least the bowl of soup would have some nutritional value. Tate is just straight garbage, I'd rather set him on fire than give him a platform to run his ignorance.
Whats there to grill ? Be specific.
Maybe they’re just not interested? I don’t watch every guest Lex has and for future guests I think there are dozens who’d be more interesting and informative. Is that ok that not everyone else is buying into the same cult of personality as you?
@@kevinconroy6606 that’s literally the same thing he is arguing lol. You actually agree with the op
A conversation between you and Tate would be amazing to watch
It’s easy to say money isn’t important when you’ve got loads of it.
Lex doesn't care about money because he's got money in the bank. When you've got $4 in the bank, you're hungry, and your gas tank is on E; money is everything.
Yo've completely and utterly missed the entire point. They would also care if they were in that situation. When they say they dont care, they mean living on 50k a year would be agreeable to them if they had to do it, not that theyd be ok just above the poverty line. Obviously, money is important to those people. But chaing wild, unrealistic dreams of vast riches and materialism isnt gonna get you out of it. Most people will fail. There are far better alternatives. Like coffee said, most of the shi you learn in hu you can find elsewhere literally for free.
For people just above the poverty line, wouldnt it be better they make use of those free resources instead of just making someone else even richer? Materialism only encourages people to spend money, again, not a good ideal for someone whos poor.
@@monmon0946 I'm not going to buy HU but I have a lot of respect for Tate. I like Lex a lot too but he and his guest both seem a bit out of touch with how important money can be if you don't have it. As someone who grew up dirt poor with no safety net I can tell you very certainly that money is very important. I don't know if either of these two were poor or not but if you've never been down and out and have always had access to money then of course it's not important. Also $50,000 a year is not really a good living in the US at all, especially if you want to live anywhere halfway decent and have a family.
I’ve been dead broke the past 6 months and it has been brutal but I’m still not sitting here thinking “man to be like all those rich people who have it easy” hard times come and go but I will never let money control me like that. Not everyone is materialistic.
@@zu-tangclan8113 Money gives you freedom, it doesn't control you. I don't think everyone thinks they are gonna be as rich as Tate but if you shoot for the stars you just might make it to the moon.
@@Chamzat_Khimaev Respectfully, I see your initially comment and the reply. You’re missing the point. Basically when lex and coffee say “money doesn’t matter” they’re showing you what’s at the finish line. Without sounding cringe I’ve lived a life where I’ve gotten to experience both sides of the coin. I grow up with parents that were upper middle class but always had friends that were lower class. Went through drug addiction and ended up living in my car planing how I was going end it if I didn’t get into the military. Joined the military, did a contract and went through about 3 different careers. Now a days I’m married, own a house (which is crazy) work for myself as a reseller, and they’re 100% correct. You don’t even have to be rich, once you hit a level where you’re financially comfortable you end up realizing money isn’t important.
Its important to use as a tool but the way Andrew Tate talks about it is really dishonest. It’s dishonest bc I’ve watched enough of his long form interviews to see he’s putting on a show half of the time aka playing a character. He often plays it up to create a moment, I’ve been watching tate since before he blew up. Coffee isn’t lying when he says all that info is free on the internet, the thing is you have to actually put in some work and look for it. Im not that bright and all I did was essentially put in the work and used the internet. TH-cam videos, Facebook groups, actually reaching out and asking questions, and trail and error. If I can do it anyone can.
"You can't be great without having a willful denial of the statistics" Well said!!!
If Hustler's University is a scam... Why does he have so many repeat customers?
I wasn’t dumb enough to sign up, but I checked Andrew’s video on hustling, the 100 tips for success, just so I could see myself. I think it’s full of genuinely good advice, along with plenty of morally grey / unsustainable ones. Overall I can see someone embracing that lifestyle and making a lot of money. The philosophy reminds me of a sleazy car salesman who will say / do anything to close the sale. See I’m not that sleazy salesman, and i intend on creating a product people would genuinely want that I don’t need to lie and trick my way to selling, but beyond that there was still some decent advice. Sleazy or not, a good salesman is still a good salesman
@@HkFinn83 i can agree to that, but I’ve seen a lot lot lot worse, so maybe I just don’t mind because the standard/bar is so low
This guy needs some sparkling water and a breath of fresh air
This is a prime example of why conversations should almost never merely be one sided
Yes it is. Especially when the person is telling the truth and has proof
@@MegaBestoffer what proof
Coffeezilla is literally one of the most unbiased truthful person you'll find on TH-cam maybe you should do some research instead of playing white knight for your boyfriend tate
Tate raped people and started targeting young boy and he has made a pyramid scheme Tate is a horrible people.
@Grirgun Where's the people who were "raped" and "kidnapped"? Oh wait, CCTV shows her going in and out ordering domino's and twerking half naked in a party😹😹
Amazing conversation. Love the open discussion and space to discuss positivity and negativity
Wasn't much of a conversation. It was Coffeezilla speaking intelligently and succinctly followed by Lex reiterating all Coffeezillla's talking points in the most plodding and boring manner.
The Tates already have said money doesn't buy happiness, but telling your mom she doesn't have to wash dishes for a living ever again does.
it doesnt really matter that they say these things very very occasionally. its drowned out by the sensational clips, his flashy af lifestyle he was promoting on IG, emphasis on money, materlism, women, etc. Dont pretend like that isnt his entire brand. You saying a good thing occasionally doesnt overcome an avalanche of bad messaging. He himself has even admitted he needed to be more careful with how he says things.
Is this why Russians are looting Ukrainian dishwashers?
@@monmon0946 It’s not wrong to live a af flashy lifestyle . They earned it . Lex is just airing his opinion and it doesn’t make him right or a sage. Having Tates kind of wealth and affluence isn’t by chance . I would live af lifestyle, chill with models all day if I have the wealth .
@@esthersam1504 they earned it by scamming people. First selling woman over the internet to lonely men that are suffering and now to young men that are suffering.
@@esthersam1504 Sure, if you have the wealth or can obtain it. Nobody is saying not to try either but he does sell a grand dream while offering very little in how to get there imo, and rarely talks about the more fulfilling things both during and after the fact. He does a bit better with it now, but its been very recent.
well the "matrix" is 100% real but hustlers university is not the way out and andrew is neither neo nor morpheus.
There is more than one matrix and thinking you can "escape the matrix" is a matrix itself.
Define matrix
Ah yes, Flex with 2 followers is the gatekeeper of the matrix
It's like saying
Oh you want to escape the broken know the broken education system and the elite, break out of societal constraints of the the matrix ?
How about 50 dollars for a discord server ?
It laughable if it wasn't so sad , like people genuinely believe they can become multi millionaires by selling fucking stocks with their lunch money
The Matrix is real, yes. But Tate is very deep in it, not out of it. He is basicly the guy who betrays Neo in the first movie.
I love how Mr. Fridman lumps “philosophers and podcasters” together.
We can defend any human being on their achievements regardless of how checkered their history may be. I think there is immense value in separating message, body of work, cultural impact etc. from the individual themselves. Are there folks who’ve gotten rich from this hustlers university who can attest to its value?
Doesn't look like they've been sharing their stories here anyway😅
that guy Coffeezilla is really smart and he basically described what Andrew tate have done very accurately
not even true at all😂 hes saying tate says you just hand him $50 and you get rich quick. thats complete bullshit lmao. he never sells that lie, hes NEVER said you get rich quick from joining. its just a place you can go to learn very common methods of making businesses. how is learning dropshipping and copywriting that are legitimate skills and ways if starting businesses a scam? you just learn them, and if you put the time and effort into learning them, which they are *very* clear will take lots of failing and lots of time, you may be able to eventually make money from it too.
@@Uncivil_Dreams andrew tate 🥩 rider spotted a whole paragraph on his bf
@@Uncivil_Dreams don't take me wrong i like Andrew Tate the Top G let's go!!
But he did say if you want to escape the Matrix and get rich then roll to HU where we're going to teach you how to make money but it's not 100% that easy? idk dude maybe i'm tripping but making money is not very easy and i doubt if you could end up a millionaire by just taking a course about drop shipping but keep grinding dude.
i'm also trying to hustle but it's not working as i expected lol.
if you want to talk private let me know and i give you my discord maybe we can chat about finance and shiz
@@Uncivil_Dreams you cannot expect to learn how businesses work for 50 bucks a month tho, everyone that sell this kind of stuff is sketchy to me
@@Uncivil_Dreams You will look back on this comment once you mature & you will cringe horribly.
All I want for Christmas is for Lex to talk about his experience at school more
Please Lex I'm begging
I would LOVE this
Maybe makes you wish that you went to school too ……
Lex didn't go to MIT btw
Lex just translated every thought I have about Tate.... Thank you sir!
Coffeezilla restores my faith in humanity.
The real world is actually not a bad course. You’re not gonna make millions but there are good fundamental lessons.
Sure beats many worthless college courses
What’s he telling you that you couldn’t learn from a few totally free Jordan Peterson lectures?
@ATLmember clearly you have no idea what TRW is or what HU was. Its not andrew sitting in a chair giving random advice. Its different millionaire mentors giving different advice. Theres a business man, crypto guy, copywriter etc etc
well that's what people don't understand. He is giving you the tools to do it. It's up to you to make it happen. He said that on sam leeds podcast. Some just think he is gonna tell you how to make millions in a week.
@@ren.8137 Such as..? Let me save you some time and money: be useful. Find the intersection of skills people want and skills you can realistically acquire, then go find credible material on the internet (or outside it) to learn them. There, I saved you $50.
Something I'm really enjoying about Lex is how open he is about his preparation and transferring experience from specific gusts into other interviews
I am so grateful that the comment section is littered with dikriders
@@mihailhidler5400 stop having a learning disability
@@mihailhidler5400 I mean, it's kind of better than being a fence sitter. Marginally better.
@@mihailhidler5400 it’s actually okay to say nice things about people. You are allowed to enjoy people and life. I hope whatever pain and anger you are holding onto gets released. You deserve freedom and love my brother, hoping for a great 2023 for you and your loved ones.
His hopeless neutrality exhausts me. But maybe that’s a good thing.
I mean, to be fair, the way he described HU is exactly how Tate describes it…so idk how there is any deceit there.
I don’t think he’s criticizing him for being deceitful, but criticizing the product for not being worth the price.
@@drewnorth3816 I don't think Diamond are truly worth Tens of Thousands of $, that doesn't mean Diamonds are a scam (although, they are a scam ;)
Lex interviewing Tate might break the matrix. 👍
Man, lex’s point of view really is a breath of fresh air, sometimes when you contrast it with the people he brings on, you really understand how special he is at sniffing out the competitive advantage 👍
yall some dickriders in the comments section lol
Imagine if he adds some sparkling water to his breathe of fresh air... He'll blow out the competition
@@clipside4823 lol
So refreshing to hear two guys having an intelligent rational conversation. No yelling or cursing. Not interrupting each other. Actually listening to each other and responding appropriately.
Great job. Watching from NZ 💯🙏💜🇳🇿
If you liked this, watch other Lex Fridman videos!
watching from Mars...no one cares
Except these guys are both government agents
🤙🏽
omg
The funny thing is he NEVER glorifies his Bugatti. He's said on countless interviews that the purchase of that car was a complete waist of money. He said he only bought the car because they didn't let him in the dealership because they thought he was a "brokie" and he uses the car to build his network. Coffeezilla mentioned that car like 50 times in this conversation. That really sound like a YOU problem. It comes off like YOU have an issue with his wealth when he's gone on countless interviews and said verbatim "I don't give a shit about money" and also said "I am the worse person to get financial advice from because I can care less about money. That's why I throw it away." He's simply telling people the world is going to get worse (which it really is) and you need to get your capital up to survive in this upcoming new world (which is also true). That's facts. This shit about life is really about smelling the birds and trees bullshit is going to leave people homeless. If you don't like the guy just say so but don't spread false information.
Coffeezilla sounds super salty unresonably
@@ZeroPurpleRansom it's so blatant
The world needs a Lex and Andrew Tate interview!
What do you want to see in that interview? He has explained everything, you just need a working brain to understand.
so refreshing to hear this intelligent and more in depth perspective on Tate without the over the top admiration of blinded young guys...
Yeahh but blindly beta hating seems to be the opposite version / other side of same coin
@@MOJOE85 just because people don't agree with certain misogynistic views or call tate out on his ponzi scheme doesn't make them "beta"
@@MOJOE85 people who use the word 'beta' unironically are the saddest individuals on this planet
@@MOJOE85 I don't see any hate, just calling it out
@@vibrantvoid8568 You honestly believe this was neutral toward tate before this assessment and and came to the objective conclusion it's a scam?
the '''no evidence of being great''' line is so beautiful and succinct, Lex, thank you again for your intellect and deliberate love.
It's a one in a million shot, but you could be the millionth guy that's tried.
Why are so many men manipulating other men? It’s a weird trend that is becoming apparent as of late.
This was very heartwarming I'm happy you had and shared this talk thanks
In Hustler culture there's one Hustler and infinite suckers
It’s actually good I went to the dark web and saw them really good no bs
@clipped6946 The only business Tate run in his entire life was some sort of human trafficking ring in Romania and then got deported. He is just a scammer, like Dan Lok.
Let's have Andrew Tate on Lex Fridman podcast
Please no, let’s no lower the bar to that level.
@@cptpepper7731 Yes let's not lower the bar even lower than the likes of Ben Shapiro a hard core ultra zionists. Remain in your safe place if you different view points hurt you.
And am really enjoying listening to Coffeezilla too. Have just recently found his content, he's on my radar now :)
Lex is so thoughtful. I'm impressed. Very smart guy.
On a random, impromptu work survey where I work - which houses inpatients - almost every female patient and female co worker told me they would date Lex before Tate. I'm shocked he hasn't found his perfect woman yet because many women are attracted to a man whom can hold convos like him. Respectful, calm, open dialog. Even if he doesn't share a person's opinion whilst speaking, his calm and respectful demeanor makes him so likeble and pleasant. ❤
@@haleyguthrie3113Agree
@@haleyguthrie3113lex is better looking thats why..
As a fellow Tate and red pill critique, great analysis by the both of you. I've noticed that this is almost universally an age divide thing. I've rarely seen a Tate fan above the age of 25
People above the Age of 25 either have had experiences with Life and can differentiate decently what's useful and what's not or they are already beyond salvageable which Is why i'd agree with you.
There is tons of them bro…as a 23 year old Tate fan, I’ve met tons of dudes at the bar older than me that all agree 😅
@@oilyseal1287 if you have a proper Life and you're like 25/26 or over and say non ironically the Bugatti line you might have lost your humanity
@@uhk9428 why in the right fucking mind would I say that? Why does supporting the things Andrew Tate say automatically make me an abhorrent mock of society? Is that how you just jump everyone else into groups in your life? Bet it yields you much success
@Chengy137 not everyone is
I agree with coffee, I hate the lust we have given as a society to being rich & famous. Especially as the majority of rich and/or famous people are morally bad people who have done questionable things to achieve so. Young people today are inundated with bullshit fantasy’s by bad people for goals that we shouldn’t be striving for.
How many rich and famous people do you personally know? Asking for a friend.
Problem is middle-class shrinks and is starting to blur the lines between middle class and lower class now. It's no longer okay to be middle class because you're one bad paycheck away from being considered lower class. And unfortunately what do you like it or not you can't simply go to climb the mountains whenever you want. You can't simply go on a hike whenever you feel like it. There's no unlimited access to food and you have to buy that food. This isn't a barter system now this is a monetary system. If you live in the city because you can't afford to live in the suburbs then you need to make money to afford to take time off to afford to travel to go on that hill to walk to go on that trail to walk. To go to the mountain to climb. People talk about how things are simple and doing simple things can be exhilarating but unfortunately in this day and age things cost resources. You need to have resources to have a meal after you come back from your exhilarating adventure. And it's easier when you're rich. Some people don't want to be rich for all the toys but to be able to do what they want without worry of the next meal where they're going to sleep how they going to pay their bills. No matter where in the world you go you're either spending money or time or both to sustain a living. Whether you live in the woods or live in the city something's got to give to have some sort of quality of life
But wouldn't the same message inspire people into at least becoming people capable of living with dignity? To become rich and famous, it takes a lot of luck.. but by being healthy, driven and ambitious, you can at least achieve something to be happy about. Isn't it better than to just.. let people fall into vices, and pits of laziness and desperation that is a thousand times harder to escape from?
While some delusional people might hear "become rich like me, top G, a thousand girls, four wives, bugattis and rolexes".. others hear "take responsibility for your actions, be combative towards life, take care of yourself and aim high!"? A critical person can filter the fanfare placed on top of extremely valid advice.
The stereotypical way of getting rich is depressing indeed. Being CEO in some company, yeah that's not a way.
But making use of social media advantage and the fact that you can be financially free and achieving your dreams is an uplifting idea.
Yoi can't deny, having more money makes you independent and you can do more things basically.
@@ReallyUnexplainable I agree with you very much
Coffeezilla is an absolute champ. Keep it going bro. 💪
Never take advice from anybody who's selling something. That's all you need to know, friends.
"He won't say who the Matrix is" haha careful. I believe Lex had a guest on recently who did just that and it was pure conflict
Because Lex identifies with them.
@@AndersonWave17 or because it’s bs
@@artvandelay94 weird they own everything... how are the owners/bosses/leaders not the problem
The richest men on earth are literal Arab princes and kings, the same ones Tate respects. If you think a religion of 19 million is running a cabal, you're the exact person to listen to Tate
@Ren the rothschild would like a word lmfao. And any other country outside the Middle East
i have to disagree with the last point, money is almost everything. if you are broke, you and your partner will have a lot of quarrels and most likely split eventually. if you are rich, and your partner wants who knows what that cost a lot of money, you say "no problem" and get her that. Also, if you are rich, you solve 90% of your problems and you can stop wasting time and worries about bullshit and actually focus on your passion.
it makes no sense that people hate on Tate’s program. at no point is it said that you get rich quick by just joining or that its guaranteed for everyone. its simply millionaires who made their cash from the skill they teach, teaching you how they did it. if you put the time and effort into learning these proven skills (dropshipping and all that isnt just some thing tate made up, its a very common way of starting s business) you can become successful. thats how people start their jobs and businesses all the time… learning a skill and practicing it. theres no illusion being sold, its real, popular methods of starting businesses.
You shouldn't say Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate in the same sentence . Completely different
a meaningful conversation more people should watch
Lex, you intimating your thoughts to us in the first minute of this, was very worth a listen. Thank you for explaining a part of your process. Nice.
Andrew Ng to Huberman to Tate. Lex's podcast has the most fascinating evolution.
1. Family 2. Health 3. Power/$$$/Status and authority ---> this is the order of how i prioritize my values in life
The most valuable thing about Andrew Tate is his mindset which is absolutely free if you just watch his interviews
Free? You mean a slave to shallow, material bullshit like "hoes", ridiculous cars, or money just for money's sake? Or tik tok fame built off of 14 year olds endlessly clipping every sentence? An empty discord where people are shilling scam coins and telling people to "leave the matrix" by doing Amazon fulfillment? Lmao yes truly the freest mind of our time
agreed
@@afk_heshrelax man its not that deep
@@donnydw6886 it is when a grifter is poisoning the minds of impressionable teenagers with consumerist bullshit
The mindset of every finance bro
Coffeezilla is just one of those doctors that hate this one simple trick
Elaborate
Haha I get it. very underrated comment 😂
@@AndrewB23 don’t recall those weird adverts you used to get on random weight loss products?
No, But Coffeezilla is incredibly Hypocritical... He says Hustlers University is a scam, only because the product they are selling is not worth the price.
Yet he's had advertisements on his TH-cam channel for off-brand shitty headphones like "Raycon" and other gimmicky products. So essentially by his logic, he's also a ..."scammer?"
@@jleif7736 That's a nice FALSE EQUIVALANCE. Raycon as crappy they are are a tangible functional product that is not charging a fortune over it's worth. That is not a scam because the margin between value of product and what they charge is much more reasonable than a scam. You are grasping at straws because you have been programmed to go on the attack while not understanding how any of this works.
The problem with role models for young men is that social media filters out the good ones. The ones with the gimmick, the promise of riches and women, don't get boosted by the algorithm.
It seems like too often people assume "escaping the 9-5" means you work less hours and make vast amounts of more money. The is not the case.
Lex is absolutely right! There is something special and meaning when someone approaches you to mentor you or guide you. It can change someone from giving up to continue forward and that’s very drastic move in the long term.
mentor, only 50 dollars a month
Tate is not mentoring you when you buy his course. A bunch of scammers peddling every fake guru scheme ever are. Tate's busy appearing on 18 year old's streams.
You won't get a mentor online, just like the nigerian prince in your email spam folder isn't going to help you out. There is no human intimacy through some text on a screen.
If Tate wanted to help people get wealth he'd tell them to go to school.
From info of his mentoring. He is almost never online.
@@jacobtaylor7506 And the info is awful. It's literally every fake guru courses in one - FBA, crypto, FOREX, dropshipping, affiliate marketing. Need I say more?
Fascinating fellow Lex, bjj black belt and a academic with an amazing podcast.
Like the old Greeks, he knows both body and mind must be nurtured.
abraham maslow hierarchy of needs.
hahahahahahahaha the old greeks? stop getting greek history from 300 and alexander.
cringe
You need more than just BJJ for a strong body.
@@agaga5886 dead ass
You two gentlemen are speaking from the point of experience and of excess if you don't have any money you're not thinking about a 10 million Studio you're thinking about paying your rent and that's what these people are learning how to become productive
The 10 million dollar studio is a joke, just so you know. It’s a running gag, he always starts his video with a green screen that’s made to look like a studio with a sports car in it.
Two technocrats equating human beings for commodities.
@@joshua-uy2wb no, the $10 million studio is real 😉
if you need pay 50$ to lean dropshipping you deserve to be poor
@@Muhluri i heard it’s just a $1 million studio that has $9 million cash buried underneath.
Cant wait for the interview
Your things haven't been showing up for me as much and I don't know why. This one came around out of no where and I realized that the love I have for lex, makes his voice feel like home. After such a stressed week, hearing him, was immediately relaxing.
This is always a happy, safe place. Thank you lex.
"if you don't have big goals dreams and aspirations, you'll end up spending a long time working for someone who does"
Except some people find it easier and more convenient to do so as you don't have to assume responsibility. The world is built by these very people, and there's nothing wrong with that. People are different from one another with completely different goals and definitions of success
This kind of debunks its own sentiment. Working for someone with big aspirations is portrayed as a bad thing, yet this relationship is idolized whenever the idea is flipped on its head. If everyone tries to be a leader instead of a worker, there will be no workers for the minority of would-be successful leaders. Why wouldn’t you recognize the pattern and try to break the cycle, so that realizing these aspirations isn’t quite so dependent on a win/lose mindset? It can be win-win, depending on what you want to do.
never thought i'd hear "philosophers and influencers" in the same sentence lmao
Those words were commonly used together up until the last decade.
Very good convo, Coffee is smart. I agree fully on the making huge money and cars for materialistic reasons as a way to break out of the Matrix as wrong directional, and selling courses TATE benefits from as self serving and corrupt, however I disagree on the Matrix part, modern society has been fairly co-opted by negative forces keeping people from achieving their true potential, greed, unconsciousness, mental slavery and even over materialism…
Yeah, they're called rich people. Rich people are the matrix. They're the ones conspiring to keep everyone trapped in indentured servitude, because it makes them more money. They control the people who run the country, make the laws, and feed you your news. A rich person will never help you get out of the cycle, because they benefit from you being stuck in it. That's what pisses me off about people who get obsessed with rich people. They're our mortal enemies, and the only way to make our lives better is to make theirs worse. Just FYI, Tate is one of them. Look past all the divisive messaging and look at his actions, he's just another rich guy who wants to take your money.
Saying that they don't talk about love really isn't true the brotherhood and love the Tate brothers share is inspiring to me
Tate said the main reason he got the Bugatti was to network with other people who could afford Bugattis. Coffeezilla and Tate agree on the point that money after a certain point doesn't matter
Roughly $70000 a year was the point it stops mattering to most people. Not at Bugatti levels.
@@_x__q 70k a year with free time.
@@_x__q yeah in 2018
Tate says the inflection point is $20 million. Any salary, especially $70k a year is a slave mindset working for the matrix according to him 😂
@@Leeway4434 depends on where you live, if you live in LA NYC 70k is nothing especially with the inflation that is going on. And definitely in a tight budget if you are having a family.
Here before the comments are taken over by Andre Tate's yt short fan boys and this emoji they like to use so much 💀
Andre Tate
Putting race into it. plus making fun of people for been short. then thinking you somehow have a moral highground on them is revolting if not laughable
@@kokojambo4944 lol i like Andrew too but ur slow hes talking abkut yt shorts
@@kokojambo4944 Representing the average Tate fans intelligence nicely. Lol
@@kokojambo4944 never has a comment been read more wrong
Going into skillsets everyone else has access to is not necessarily bad. Copywriting is a skillset most people can learn, but there is still tons of skill and knowledge to have on the skill which makes you a valuable marketer to businesses.
Where di d u find this tool lex
Bro lex is legit. This is like my second video I watched with this guy
Thank God you approve!
Say what you will about Tate, but he is smart as hell for gaming the system the way he does. He used the media against itself and used social media to propel himself into fame while convincing his followers that he doesn't want the fame.
Is it smart as hell or just depraved though? Is getting away with selling people dreams and taking advantage of a system that disenfranchises people ‘smart’ or just being willing to sink to moral depths that others won’t?
@Jawwaad Hussain I think you can be smart and ruthless/cold at the same time. He may not align with good moral values, but I think he deserves credit for learning how to take advantage of a pretty large chunk of society. Just my opinion though.
@@J4ww44d what has he done exactly that is so depraved? What 'dreams' has he sold? In what has he harmed anyone?
@@michaelgallardo5212 I don't really get how he has taken advantage of people. He used social media to increase his reach and influence. His affiliate marketing program played a big part in his success as people would post clips of him to promote his Hustlers University, which was very smart but nothing new or immoral. He purposely said things in provocative ways because it gets views and attention, something people have been doing long before the internet. But often people just misinterpret his humour, he's not really putting on as much of an act as people think, he's had the same personality ten years ago when he was virtually unknown. All these things came together to make him super famous but there's nothing he did that was 'wrong' or 'depraved'. I think really and truly tate is just as shocked as everyone else about how famous he has become in such a short time. Things just worked out for him, but it's mainly his personality and views that got him so big. All of that stuff he did would have been futile if people weren't interested in hearing him speak, so it's not like anyone can just go and do what he did by some cheap trick or 'gaming the system'
??? I've listened to a lot of Tate. HU member. Tate NEVER said he doesn't want the fame, tf?
I am looking at this moment for a coffee farm in Nicaragua because I don't stay in Alaska during the winter, and I stay here.
all young men should be looking up to YOU, Lex
Great to see both viewpoints. Respect to Lex and Coffee
The good thing about hustler's university is not the course, you can get it for free, it is the community. You don't get that for free
A 50€ community doesnt sound like a good deal
People are making more money there than on their real jobs? With screenshots on paymentd / bank accounts. I'm making money.
How is that no valuable??
@@nostrum7278 What is a community worth?
@@nostrum7278 Don't 90% of big name streamers do the exact same shit? if you donate X amount, or Gift X amount of subs, you get access to their snapchats, or special discords lmao. Sounds like you just hate Tate, well solely because of the name. I honestly would find Tates discord server, with people who are actively trying to teach you ways to make money, way more meaningful, and a "good deal" than lets say Ludwigs Discord where it's a bunch of Twitch Viewers spamming Drama twitch clips, and twitch emotes in discord. Just my opinion.
@@nostrum7278 $50 sounds like a bargain, wtf are you on lol
It’s basic ass lifestyle branding stuff. It’s a knock off of the 1980’s Wall Street/Hollywood ethos. “ you wear the suit, you buy the flashy car, you convey success and success will come” I met a guy who was an audio engineer at a prominent Los Angeles recording studio in the 1980s. He told me a story about a record producer that had basically scammed his way into working with some prominent rock bands by creating the “image of success”. He drove a Porsche, wore expensive suits, and found a way to get his business card into the right peoples hands. He was convincing enough to get the job, but it soon became very clear he had no real studio experience, and his facade crumbled when they found out that he not only drove a luxury car, he also lived in it. It’s the duplicitous edge of creating a presence instead of creating success. you start a celebrity and you end up a meme.
"Theatricality and deception, powerful agents to the uninitiated, but we are initiated aren't we Bruce?" -Bane
Can someone put together a grid of Lex talking in various clips and then once there are around 10,000 boxes of him talking they all come together and say "steelman" at the same time?
Yes but in this case he actually meant "steal, man"