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Eating rock to cure things most prob didnt do much! Dinosaurs where actually well on their way out before the meteor! Most massive extinction seen before 1900! Buybull says rained 40 days but ti took 6 months for the water to go away! Most christians dont even know that part! TYPICAL🤦♂️🤣 There is lots animals that look exactly like plants! Alive today! No but the Himalayas rising caused the weather to change in africa and apes to come down out of the trees and on to the plains!
I have found something very interesting that you might want to look into, it is a comic series called "age of reptiles." From what I know there are two short stories and three full stories in the comics. I don't want to spoil anything other than the fact that dinosaur revolution is loosely based off this comic series.
You pronounced Leibnitz´ name very well (the family name was on point). If you put a russian accent on the "r" but rolled on the back of the tounge, rather than the throat and basically read the "w" as a "v", it would be perfect.
Bro, if you are having a hard time pronouncing names, you can search the pronunciation on youtube, some wiki articles even have them. It's better than trying to make sense of a language you don't know by yourself.
My fringe paleontology theory: We don’t know what colors Dinosaurs were. But from the few we do know, at least some dinosaurs were a lot more colorful than they are commonly depicted. So, theoretically, a dinosaur could be purple and green. Aka, Barney could be real.
@@zogwort1522 I honestly think it’s actually the work of the inter dimensional lizard men impersonating major celebrities trying to use colors to hypnotize the populace in order to control them
3:37 In 2011, Discovery Channel/Animal Planet took the concept of that theory & expanded it to possibly explain the existence of Mermaids in the mockumentary, "Mermaids: The Body Found"
@@DinoDiego16 It wasn't the only Fringe Theory featured in your video that Discovery Channel/Animal Planet decide utilize either. The Toba Eruption was featured in "Animal Armageddon's" seventh episode: "Fire and Ice." Although, I don't recall the episode specifically mentioning the theory; just the Toba Eruption event?
What really ruined that one for me was the ill-conceived attempt at a government cover-up story. That so many people seemed to actually believe it only made it worse. They should have kept a "What if?" motif like they did with Dragons.
Regarding the Ediacaran biota, recent studies, both cladistic and geochemical, show pretty conclusively that they were true animals, more derived than sponges and placozoans but still more basal than cnidarians and bilaterians.
There are actually some Edicaran fossils that we have ascribed to both bilaterians and cnidarians with some degree of confidence as well. Regardless, it seems that most of the Edicarans were stem animals, and the roots of the animal family tree were in place before the Cambrain explosion
These Fringe Theories are pretty helpful for new ideas for my ark mods. Honestly ill look for an excuse to make a hadrosaur breath fire (which I made the ouranosaurus subspecies do) or to make subspecies of the spinosaurus that look like they came from the 80s
@@jeffhough7460 Saurian's Evolved Primordial Expansion is the main dinosaur one. Spinosaurus and Ouranosaurus are my favorites in that mod. Right now I am focusing on adding more aquatic creatures.
@@DinoDiego16 Oh yeah that's the best part. Having tyrannotitan and spino fight is very fun to do. Since spinos roar actually is loud enough to has the earbleed status debuff
Fun fact: Pliny the Elder from the paleo-pharmacology section is the -same guy- uncle of the guy (Pliny the Younger) who documented the eruption of Mt. Vesuvius
Yeah he was a big deal back when he was alive, a real kind of erudite that documented everything that was known during his times (even if we laugh at most of that stuff now) and he even invented the books indexes.
The Invincible is a real classic of Polish science fiction. Honestly, I always kinda wondered why Solaris got a couple of movies but there never was The Invincible one. It always struck me as a much better material to make a screenplay out of than rather demanding and philosophical Solaris. Well, maybe some day.
During my research, I did see that they were adapting The Invincible into a game, which might not be what you want, but may be a step in the right direction
As a Pole, I partially agree. It sounded great for someone who doesn't seem to have been learning Polish from a young age. It still hurts a little, but that's being a native speaker for you.
Im really thankful that your are digging through this iceberg for all of us!!! Also: your pronounciation of Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz was actually spot-on- pretty impressive ;)
Diego, I can only speak for myself, but I've actually really enjoyed the release schedule so far. It makes each entry feel like a special event. If the series takes a long time to finish, that only reflects the enormity of this iceberg and of paleontology in general. Keep up the fantastic work and know that there are people who appreciate you taking the time you need.
If you are interested in actually learning new things, then I would suggest a different series of videos. This guy constantly says things that are just plain wrong. For example, in this video he says that Archaeology is the study of Noah's Ark and the search for evidence that it really happened. I hope you know how incorrect and ridiculous that is.
@@daemonthorn5888 I didn't catch that claim in particular (sometimes I watch these videos as I'm doing chores), but I'm well aware that archaeology is not equivalent to Christian apologetics. Anything on TH-cam is entertainment at the end of the day, and I take claims (particularly scientific claims) made by TH-camrs with a healthy grain of salt. That being said, I agree that TH-camrs should be more careful with the accuracy of the claims that they make-it's a two-way street for sure.
I will add that given the context of the title card for the section in question, it appears that Diego was referring to "Arkeology," not archaeology. I'd lay the blame for the confusion at the feet of Biblical literalists trying to give their field a name that sounds just like another, more scientifically reputable field.
My mistake. What I should've said was that the creator of the iceberg was specifically referencing the paper that I mentioned in the video, rather than it was the origins of the idea.
Great job!!! I’ll add that, in the case of Ouranosaurus, their neural “hump”/“sail” really isn’t anything like that of a bison, which I believe you already mentioned. It’s far smoother, and really wouldn’t offer any good support for fat stores, which are usually located in the tail and chest regions in reptiles. Plus, as far as fat storage goes, camel humps are actually situated away from their neural “sail”, funny enough.
Came for intellectually stimulating conspiracy theories and understandable misunderstandings and was immediately struck with the this intense remembrance of the Dinosaur Adventure video. Now I'm gonna be walking around going "Yee" in a weird voice all day, thanks.
Yeah, shark teeth (Megalodon specifically) were linked to snakes being turned into stone. Its weird, but, that's what it was like. Another term for them was 'Glossopetrae' (boy i wonder what megaldon related video I saw semi-recently)
If you are interested in actually learning new things, then I would suggest a different series of videos. This guy constantly says things that are just plain wrong. For example, in this video he says that Archaeology is the study of Noah's Ark and the search for evidence that it really happened. I hope you know how incorrect and ridiculous that is.
The Fringe hypothesis you were talking about where Evolution occurs in leaps instead of gradualism There's an actual more scientifically credible version of that hypothesis called punctuated equilibrium and is a viable option to go along with the overall gradualism of evolution that there are periods of so-called punctuated equilibrium where the equilibrium gets punctuated by a leap of rapid speciation. Rapid speciation also happens after major Extinction events as animals rapidly diverged to fill niches left open by the mass extinction event
Fun fact, the Pathfinder and Starfinder RPG world has a planet based entirely on old pop culture Venus, full of jungles, dinosaur-like aliens, and 'hot alien humanoids'.
The "paleoviruses dethawing" is real though. There have been at least one instance of the bubonic plague re-emerging from thawed corpses, and thawed bacteria from even farther back being cultured. While the idea that it will cause a pandemic is pretty extreme, this isn't a fringe theory that they can be thawed out and survive, it's a fact.
I remember reading a wonderful short story called "The Great Dying" where a paleontologist scratches his hand on a Deinonychus claw, thereby contracting and spreading the virus that killed off the dinosaurs and now will kill off humanity.
To be fair, the bubonic plague never went away. A few hundred people catch it every year across the world. The reason it doesn't spread or get much attention is because antibiotics are very effective at treating it
On the topic of fossil medicine and speaking from experience, I personally ground up a small sample of dinosaur bone into a smoothie to absorb its dinosaur powers, and I can confirm that I can now lift many of tons of weight and bring down rhinoceroses with my teeth. Fear me.
Dinosaurs mated in lakes. And they died due to the depletion of that? Are you sure they died because they didn't want to drink the water that had Dinosaur Jizz in it. Raptor 1: this water tastes weird. raptor 2: The T Rex parents were getting it on earlier. That ain't water. It's Jizz water. Raptor 1: And you were gonna let me keep drinking it? *Raptor 2 laughs as Raptor 1 dies of a dino jizz overdose*
Didn't expect the Noosphere in this video, but i knew where it was heading when you started talking about it XD was literally the script for Shadow of Chernobyl.
Fossil pharmacology is also found in China where fossils were thought to be dragon bones and, just like the others, ground up and ingested for medicine
Your pronunciation of Stanisław Lem's name was quite good. I'm so happy that Necroevolution Theory was on the list. I still highly recommend reading Invincible if you ever get the chance. Plus, at the end of last year, a computer game was released (a cross between a "point and click" game and a "walking simulator") set on the same planet but not an exact adaptation of the book.
Ah, Spinosaurus. Continuing the tradition of confusing the hell of scientists to this day. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that Spinosaurus could fly
Here are a few more fringe hypotheses to enjoy: The bat-wing birds: Yi qi and Ambopteryx. Xu et al 2015 thought they were describing a bizarre theropod with membraneous wings and a completely new long bone arising from the wrist, the styliform element. Yi qi simply suffered a torsion fracture. Ambopteryx had one longitudinallly crushed radius the authors thought was a conjoined radius + ulna. The left ulna was considered the styliform element. The right wing had no styliform element. The radius and ulna were normal in appearance. Xu X, Zheng X-T, Sullivan C, Wang X-L, Xing l, Wang Y, Zhang X-M, O’Connor JK, Zhang F-C and Pan Y-H 2015. A bizarre Jurassic maniraptoran theropod with preserved evidence of membranous wings. Nature (advance online publication) doi:10.1038/nature14423 pterosaurheresies.wordpress.com/2021/07/04/when-a-simple-torsion-fracture-turned-an-early-cretaceous-bird-into-bizarre-bat-wing-dinosaur/ Wang M, O’Connor JK.; Xu X and Zhou Z 2019. A new Jurassic scansoriopterygid and the loss of membranous wings in theropod dinosaurs. Nature 569: 256-259. doi:10.1038/s41586-019-1137-z pterosaurheresies.wordpress.com/2019/05/09/like-yi-qi-the-new-ambopteryx-does-not-have-bat-wings/ Euparkeria was once considered basal to birds… and to pterosaurs. pterosaurheresies.wordpress.com/2022/01/17/euparkeria-and-the-origin-of-birds-and-pterosaurs/ Paul Ellenberger thought the pre-pterosaur, Cosesaurus, was a pre-bird. He flipped the manus over to make it so in his mind. He thought the prepubis was a new ilium projection. He didn’t understand the sternal complex (sternum + interclavicle + clavicle) that was just coming together in Cosesaurus. Ellenberger P and de Villalta JF 1974. Sur la presence d’un ancêtre probable des oiseaux dans le Muschelkalk supérieure de Catalogne (Espagne). Note preliminaire. Acta Geologica Hispanica 9, 162-168. pterosaurheresies.wordpress.com/2022/01/14/sticking-to-their-guns-three-paleontologists-and-their-pet-hypotheses/ Mike Benton thought the bipedal bipedal crocodylomorph, Scleromochlus, with tiny hands, was a pre-pterosaur. Benton MJ 1999. Scleromochlus taylori and the origin of dinosaurs and pterosaurs. Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society London, Series B 354 1423-1446. pterosaurheresies.wordpress.com/2022/01/14/sticking-to-their-guns-three-paleontologists-and-their-pet-hypotheses/ Martin Ezcurra 17 co-authors. cobbled together a chimaera of several lagerpetids and protorosaurs from around the world and thought they had discovered a pterosaur ancestor, one that ran on two toes and had small hands and no fifth toe. Novas and Agnolin 2016 nested Lagerpeton with Tropidosuchus, among the Proterochampsidae. Ezcurra MD et al. (17 co-authors) 2020. Enigmatic dinosaur precursors bridge the gap to the origin of Pterosauria. Nature (2020). doi.org/10.1038/s41586-020-3011-4 Novas FE and Agnolin FL 2016 Lagerpeton chanarensis Romer (Archosauriformes): A derived proterochampsian from the middle Triassic of NW Argentina. Simposio. From Eventos del Mesozoico temprano en la evolución de los dinosaurios”. Programa VCLAPV. Conferencia plenaria: Hidrodinámica y modo de vida de los primeros vertebrados. Héctor Botella (Universitat de València, España) 2016 pterosaurheresies.wordpress.com/2020/12/10/new-pterosaur-precursor-study-excludes-all-pterosaur-precursors/ Prothero and 15 coauthors in 2021 followed several prior authors over the decades in announcing that all whales are artidactyls (= cattle, camels, pigs, deer). The solution is to add taxa to analysis. Then the ancestry of baleen whales includes desmostylians, hippos (no longer close to deer, camels, etc) and mesonychids. The distinctly different ancestry of toothed whales includes the long-nosed, echolocating extant genus, Tenrec, just prior to pakicetids. You’ll notice immediately how much Pakicetus looks like Tenrec. Prothero et al. (15 co-authors) 2021. On the Unnecessary and Misleading Taxon “Cetartiodactyla”. Journal of Mammalian Evolution. doi.org/10.1007/s10914-021-09572-7 pterosaurheresies.wordpress.com/2021/09/17/are-whales-artiodactyls-no/ The list goes on and on. More later if you have a part 3.
@@TurtleMarcus If you're talking about my entry in part 1, that's in the part 1 comments section already. I hope everybody learns from this experience that Darren Naish is not the little angel everybody thinks he is.
@@The_Practical_Daydreamer That’s how you might interpret it to avoid contradiction, but it isn’t actually stated that way in the text. At Genesis 7:14 it says “And the flood was forty days upon the earth.” and at 7:24 it says “And the waters prevailed upon the earth a hundred fifty days”. It’s almost the same sentence, just with the numbers swapped. No attempt is made to distinguish the 40-day-period from the 150-one, the wording in both seems to refer to the flooding event in general.
@@manospondylus Hello ive got my Bible with me (ESV) translation, and in Genesis 8:3 it says "and the waters receded from the earth continually. At the end of 150 days the waters had abated". Im not a Theologian, but it seemed Noah waited for a long time in the Ark, because later it states that on the tenth month and tenth day the Ark landed on some mountains after the water receded. And then Noah waited 40 more days before opening his window on the Ark.
@@daemonthorn5888 Arkeology and Archaeology have very similar if not the same sounding name depending on accent, but they are two different topics, what you are hearing as Archaeology is Arkeology which is the study of Noah's Ark
Is saltation (12:03) the same as Punctuated Equilibrium? My understanding is that P.E. is pretty well regarded in Paleo circles, but I may be wrong. Thanks
I would point out that the nature of Venus had been worked quiet well ahead of the Venera landers. Mariner 2 was able to get a handle on the planet temperatures and basically ruled out complex life then and there.
I just read the Invincible by Lem recently! It was probably one of the first stories to propose the idea of machines taking on reproductive and evolutionary processes of living beings independently of their original design.
@@nakedlauging I think the idea as far as combining science and religion would go is to wonder hypothetically how long it would take for that much water to receed.
@20:11ish-- You mean it still considered an hypothesis. In science theory is the highest form of knowledge. It's very different than the vernacular use of theory that means like an educated guess. Hypothesis would be a better fit for what you meant when it comes to science. In scientific jargon, a theory is an explanatory framework that _is_ supported by evidence; as well observations, laws, mathematics, and other factors. A scientific theory is "good" if it has both explanatory power and, more importantly, predictive power. In science, predictive power is key because it means that your theory or model makes accurate predictions in explaining observations. So when you're talking about science, saying "it's just a theory" or something similar, doesn't really make sense, as theories are the top tier. Theories never graduate into facts or laws, or what have you. Theories usually _contain_ facts and laws. In science, a fact is a single demonstrable proposition or observation and a law is a single observation that seems to be universally true under a given set of conditions, and can be expressed as a formula. By the way I'm not criticizing, or trying to condescend to you. I'm just trying to point this out because pseudo-scientist types, like Young Earth Creationists, and flat-earthers, love to say things like "it's just a theory", as if theory is not the highest form of knowledge in science. Imo they deliberately conflate the colloquial usage of theory with its scientific usage to misrepresent science-- science their own pet hypotheses are pseudoscience and cannot be substantiated scientifically. also, it's not well known to the public at large, but in science nothing is ever fully proven, because of the nature of science as an inductive method of gaining knowledge rather than deductive it can never be proven which only really exist and deductive logic and math which is because of definitions when you're something is true by definition which is also called analytic reasoning. In science, hypotheses and sometimes even theories can be falsified but never proven 100% true. But that doesn't mean science doesn't demonstrably get us much closer to truth than any other method humanity haas ever devised for gaining knowledge. Cheers
I find the aquatic ape theory fascinating. It is one of the many things as to why I entered the study of anthropology in college and I hope to do more research on the subject to hopefully formulate a more convincing hypothesis.
I only know of it because I watched a video about scummy documentariesn and there was a documentary that suggested mairmaids where real and were descended from aquatic apes^^
Fantastic pronunciation of the authors name Stanisław Lem, for a non native speaker you couldn't have done a better job! Love the videos, can't wait for the next part.
About Brujatheosaurus, a new study claim that they were weighing 110 to 170 metric tons. Just for comparison, it is theorized that 100 tons is the maximum limit for a terrestrial animal, heavier than that no legs could support their weight ^^ The searchers don't have found any new material, it's basically guess work XD
everyone has a ancient flood story, from the tribals in Polynesia to precontact Aztecs.... no matter where you are in the world all peoples have a flood story
Omegapoint sounds like the plotline of the hit television series Eureka 7. Except it wasn't us, it was the people who came before us, and apparently there's a limit to how many questions that can be asked, like how the ticket machine at the DMV runs out of paper.
Re: Tektites: The asteroid that killed the dinosaurs went miles into the Earth, and there was an equal and opposite reaction-- a plume of molten rock, miles long, thrown up out of the atmosphere and into space. It rained back down to Earth as innumerable glass beads, and their collective heat raised the global temperature to about 1200F.
There was also an opposite reaction on the other side of the Earth. The seismic shockwave that ran out of the asteroid impact ran around the world and converged again 180 degrees away (because the Earth is a sphere) on the exact opposite side of the Earth. There is a credible scientific theory that this caused volcanism at that convergent point.
Dinosaurs on Venus and the theory of Dino Tectites reminds me of the “Dinosaurs on the Moon” theory, believing that the impact of the asteroid flung pieces of dinosaur bone and other prehistoric matter into space, some of which could have continued going and ended up landing on our moon.
Great video. I studied a bit of geology in South Africa and I learnt that Table Mountain was used by Christians as an example of flood geology. There is a layer of sandstone over granite which they say the great flood caused. It is a remarkable geological location.
Curative and prophylactic fossil consumption, eh. I wonder if the likely presence of calcium carbonate can explain any of the effects they may have had? People may have been taking essentially primitive Tums in the form of ground up fossils.
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Hope you all enjoyed this episode of the Paleontology Fringe Theories Iceberg! I've been in the middle of a few other projects and I'm currently trying to figure out which one I want to prioritze. Regardless, they are all very interesting topics that I'm sure you guys will like and they should be coming to the channel very soon, so stay tuned for that! As always, thank you all for the love and support and for getting me to 33k subscribers!
Eating rock to cure things most prob didnt do much!
Dinosaurs where actually well on their way out before the meteor!
Most massive extinction seen before 1900!
Buybull says rained 40 days but ti took 6 months for the water to go away! Most christians dont even know that part! TYPICAL🤦♂️🤣
There is lots animals that look exactly like plants! Alive today!
No but the Himalayas rising caused the weather to change in africa and apes to come down out of the trees and on to the plains!
I have found something very interesting that you might want to look into, it is a comic series called "age of reptiles." From what I know there are two short stories and three full stories in the comics. I don't want to spoil anything other than the fact that dinosaur revolution is loosely based off this comic series.
@Average Giga Chad You have to wait for good things! Hopefully it will be out next month! :)
You pronounced Leibnitz´ name very well (the family name was on point). If you put a russian accent on the "r" but rolled on the back of the tounge, rather than the throat and basically read the "w" as a "v", it would be perfect.
Bro, if you are having a hard time pronouncing names, you can search the pronunciation on youtube, some wiki articles even have them. It's better than trying to make sense of a language you don't know by yourself.
My fringe paleontology theory:
We don’t know what colors Dinosaurs were. But from the few we do know, at least some dinosaurs were a lot more colorful than they are commonly depicted. So, theoretically, a dinosaur could be purple and green.
Aka, Barney could be real.
I’m all for this theory
Actually we have a few species of dinosaurs that we do know what colors they were
If birds are like dinosaurs... u know male birds put some real colours to get the females .... maybe dinosaurs males work the same jeje
Maybe one dinosaur was striped since for example zebras strips could never be known
@@zogwort1522 I honestly think it’s actually the work of the inter dimensional lizard men impersonating major celebrities trying to use colors to hypnotize the populace in order to control them
3:37 In 2011, Discovery Channel/Animal Planet took the concept of that theory & expanded it to possibly explain the existence of Mermaids in the mockumentary, "Mermaids: The Body Found"
I can imagine that's one of the things that brought this hypothesis down for a lot of people.
@@DinoDiego16 It wasn't the only Fringe Theory featured in your video that Discovery Channel/Animal Planet decide utilize either. The Toba Eruption was featured in "Animal Armageddon's" seventh episode: "Fire and Ice." Although, I don't recall the episode specifically mentioning the theory; just the Toba Eruption event?
Man that mockumentary was great when i was 13
What really ruined that one for me was the ill-conceived attempt at a government cover-up story. That so many people seemed to actually believe it only made it worse. They should have kept a "What if?" motif like they did with Dragons.
Regarding the Ediacaran biota, recent studies, both cladistic and geochemical, show pretty conclusively that they were true animals, more derived than sponges and placozoans but still more basal than cnidarians and bilaterians.
Right, yeah this, was just about to say that.... **Cough cough**
Tiny bois.
There are actually some Edicaran fossils that we have ascribed to both bilaterians and cnidarians with some degree of confidence as well. Regardless, it seems that most of the Edicarans were stem animals, and the roots of the animal family tree were in place before the Cambrain explosion
Sadly yes
I see God in these cool guys... the fibonacci sequence is an interesting thing isn't it?
These Fringe Theories are pretty helpful for new ideas for my ark mods. Honestly ill look for an excuse to make a hadrosaur breath fire (which I made the ouranosaurus subspecies do) or to make subspecies of the spinosaurus that look like they came from the 80s
I got 10k hours in ark, lol booting it up as I read your comment, what mods are yours?
It would be cool to see some of these theories manifested into a game. Even have them fight to the death and see which one is the superior one😂
@@jeffhough7460 Saurian's Evolved Primordial Expansion is the main dinosaur one. Spinosaurus and Ouranosaurus are my favorites in that mod. Right now I am focusing on adding more aquatic creatures.
@@DinoDiego16 Oh yeah that's the best part. Having tyrannotitan and spino fight is very fun to do. Since spinos roar actually is loud enough to has the earbleed status debuff
@@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 sounds good man subscribing to mod now, you run a server?
Fun fact: Pliny the Elder from the paleo-pharmacology section is the -same guy- uncle of the guy (Pliny the Younger) who documented the eruption of Mt. Vesuvius
I knew I recognized his name from something
Yeah he was a big deal back when he was alive, a real kind of erudite that documented everything that was known during his times (even if we laugh at most of that stuff now) and he even invented the books indexes.
And sadly, that was the last thing he documented...
Also the father of natural history, but y’know, not as important as ‘hee hee Magic snake eggs’.
He's also the fist guy to realise the flavour of fruit and veg depends on the type of soil
The Invincible is a real classic of Polish science fiction. Honestly, I always kinda wondered why Solaris got a couple of movies but there never was The Invincible one. It always struck me as a much better material to make a screenplay out of than rather demanding and philosophical Solaris. Well, maybe some day.
During my research, I did see that they were adapting The Invincible into a game, which might not be what you want, but may be a step in the right direction
They did a whole futurama episode revolving around this idea lol
Your pronunciation of "Stanisław Lem" was really good. It's amazing that he wrote this story in 1964. Many of his books are ahead of his time.
My polish neighbor says it’s pronounced Stan-NEE-slaw in Poland. But this sounds strange to my American ears.
As a Pole, I partially agree. It sounded great for someone who doesn't seem to have been learning Polish from a young age. It still hurts a little, but that's being a native speaker for you.
Im really thankful that your are digging through this iceberg for all of us!!! Also: your pronounciation of Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz was actually spot-on- pretty impressive ;)
Im actually kind of glad to hear that😂 Normally, my pronunciations for people's names are awful
Diego, I can only speak for myself, but I've actually really enjoyed the release schedule so far. It makes each entry feel like a special event. If the series takes a long time to finish, that only reflects the enormity of this iceberg and of paleontology in general. Keep up the fantastic work and know that there are people who appreciate you taking the time you need.
If you are interested in actually learning new things, then I would suggest a different series of videos. This guy constantly says things that are just plain wrong. For example, in this video he says that Archaeology is the study of Noah's Ark and the search for evidence that it really happened. I hope you know how incorrect and ridiculous that is.
@@daemonthorn5888 I didn't catch that claim in particular (sometimes I watch these videos as I'm doing chores), but I'm well aware that archaeology is not equivalent to Christian apologetics. Anything on TH-cam is entertainment at the end of the day, and I take claims (particularly scientific claims) made by TH-camrs with a healthy grain of salt. That being said, I agree that TH-camrs should be more careful with the accuracy of the claims that they make-it's a two-way street for sure.
I will add that given the context of the title card for the section in question, it appears that Diego was referring to "Arkeology," not archaeology. I'd lay the blame for the confusion at the feet of Biblical literalists trying to give their field a name that sounds just like another, more scientifically reputable field.
@@daemonthorn5888 imagine trying to mock someone while being clearly wrong. You really should pay a bit of attention before you try to roast someone.
The 'Silurian hypothesis' goes back a lot further than 2018, it was used in the original Doctor Who series.
My mistake. What I should've said was that the creator of the iceberg was specifically referencing the paper that I mentioned in the video, rather than it was the origins of the idea.
First appearance in 1970 Doctor Who and the Silurians
Ah I knew “Silurian” sounded familiar!!!
Great job!!! I’ll add that, in the case of Ouranosaurus, their neural “hump”/“sail” really isn’t anything like that of a bison, which I believe you already mentioned. It’s far smoother, and really wouldn’t offer any good support for fat stores, which are usually located in the tail and chest regions in reptiles. Plus, as far as fat storage goes, camel humps are actually situated away from their neural “sail”, funny enough.
Came for intellectually stimulating conspiracy theories and understandable misunderstandings and was immediately struck with the this intense remembrance of the Dinosaur Adventure video.
Now I'm gonna be walking around going "Yee" in a weird voice all day, thanks.
This is the greatest series on TH-cam right now, keep it up!
I’ve seen some art for humped Spinosaurus and I love how it basically makes it looks just a few steps removed from a damn Deviljho.
Wait, ammonite fossils were called goblin nails and shark teeth snake tongues? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
Yea he def fubbled
The root of the shark tooth is the fork of the snake tongue. Ammonites on the other hand look nothing like snake tongues.
Yeah, shark teeth (Megalodon specifically) were linked to snakes being turned into stone. Its weird, but, that's what it was like. Another term for them was 'Glossopetrae'
(boy i wonder what megaldon related video I saw semi-recently)
No he has it the right way. Fossilized shark teeth sometimes have a strongly forked root, which makes them look a bit like a snake tongue.
Yeah once again he is wrong, ammonites were believed to be petrified coiled snakes.
I remember the dinosaur s3x lakes memes and how the memes were everywhere. Someone even made a game called “Lemme Splash”
No one needs to make another video game ever again, because no one will ever top the masterpiece that is "Lemme Splash"
@@DinoDiego16 A true masterpiece
This is one of my favorite YT series at the moment. Great work, and thanks for doing this.
If you are interested in actually learning new things, then I would suggest a different series of videos. This guy constantly says things that are just plain wrong. For example, in this video he says that Archaeology is the study of Noah's Ark and the search for evidence that it really happened. I hope you know how incorrect and ridiculous that is.
@@daemonthorn5888
Arkeology. Not archeology
Let's goooo, I forgot how much I needed this. Thanks Diego!
The Fringe hypothesis you were talking about where Evolution occurs in leaps instead of gradualism There's an actual more scientifically credible version of that hypothesis called punctuated equilibrium and is a viable option to go along with the overall gradualism of evolution that there are periods of so-called punctuated equilibrium where the equilibrium gets punctuated by a leap of rapid speciation. Rapid speciation also happens after major Extinction events as animals rapidly diverged to fill niches left open by the mass extinction event
Ive been waiting for this
Dude, finally am I right
Hideaki Anno: can i copy your homework?
Chardin: yeah just change it up a bit so it isn’t obvious
Fun fact, the Pathfinder and Starfinder RPG world has a planet based entirely on old pop culture Venus, full of jungles, dinosaur-like aliens, and 'hot alien humanoids'.
The "paleoviruses dethawing" is real though.
There have been at least one instance of the bubonic plague re-emerging from thawed corpses, and thawed bacteria from even farther back being cultured.
While the idea that it will cause a pandemic is pretty extreme, this isn't a fringe theory that they can be thawed out and survive, it's a fact.
I remember reading a wonderful short story called "The Great Dying" where a paleontologist scratches his hand on a Deinonychus claw, thereby contracting and spreading the virus that killed off the dinosaurs and now will kill off humanity.
To be fair, the bubonic plague never went away. A few hundred people catch it every year across the world. The reason it doesn't spread or get much attention is because antibiotics are very effective at treating it
@@Erikaaaaaaaaaaaaa Or handling armadillos
On the topic of fossil medicine and speaking from experience, I personally ground up a small sample of dinosaur bone into a smoothie to absorb its dinosaur powers, and I can confirm that I can now lift many of tons of weight and bring down rhinoceroses with my teeth. Fear me.
"Hello sir, do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior Superior Monad?"
There was some crazy theories on here. This is only Tier 2 at that.
Ikr. Wait till you see whats in tier 3
Dinosaurs mated in lakes. And they died due to the depletion of that?
Are you sure they died because they didn't want to drink the water that had Dinosaur Jizz in it.
Raptor 1: this water tastes weird.
raptor 2: The T Rex parents were getting it on earlier. That ain't water. It's Jizz water.
Raptor 1: And you were gonna let me keep drinking it?
*Raptor 2 laughs as Raptor 1 dies of a dino jizz overdose*
Great, a video before going to bed :0
Didn't expect the Noosphere in this video, but i knew where it was heading when you started talking about it XD was literally the script for Shadow of Chernobyl.
Very cool I enjoyed it. If there are people that are bitching about the content that you are making then just ignore them
Hear hear
16:37 To be honest “it‘s been said“ is not really a great form of evidence that it actually works
It's been said that I am the coolest person on the planet!
(It was said by me, just now)
some of the dry wit went under my radar. glad i rewatched this. well done dude.
Fossil pharmacology is also found in China where fossils were thought to be dragon bones and, just like the others, ground up and ingested for medicine
so..unicorns existed, chinese niggas just thought that shit was a dragon and ate all the evidence?
I wonder how many irreplaceable fossils were destroyed for this stupid idea.
Love these videos, icebergs are awesome because it's a chance to go deep into a topic not just staying at surface level.
You did a great job with Leibniz and the monads explanation! 17th century metaphysics got real weird
Your pronunciation of Stanisław Lem's name was quite good. I'm so happy that Necroevolution Theory was on the list. I still highly recommend reading Invincible if you ever get the chance. Plus, at the end of last year, a computer game was released (a cross between a "point and click" game and a "walking simulator") set on the same planet but not an exact adaptation of the book.
Thanks man, rational people on irrational topics is the best!
Ah, Spinosaurus. Continuing the tradition of confusing the hell of scientists to this day. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that Spinosaurus could fly
Here are a few more fringe hypotheses to enjoy:
The bat-wing birds: Yi qi and Ambopteryx. Xu et al 2015 thought they were describing a bizarre theropod with membraneous wings and a completely new long bone arising from the wrist, the styliform element. Yi qi simply suffered a torsion fracture.
Ambopteryx had one longitudinallly crushed radius the authors thought was a conjoined radius + ulna. The left ulna was considered the styliform element. The right wing had no styliform element. The radius and ulna were normal in appearance.
Xu X, Zheng X-T, Sullivan C, Wang X-L, Xing l, Wang Y, Zhang X-M, O’Connor JK, Zhang F-C and Pan Y-H 2015. A bizarre Jurassic maniraptoran theropod with preserved evidence of membranous wings. Nature (advance online publication)
doi:10.1038/nature14423
pterosaurheresies.wordpress.com/2021/07/04/when-a-simple-torsion-fracture-turned-an-early-cretaceous-bird-into-bizarre-bat-wing-dinosaur/
Wang M, O’Connor JK.; Xu X and Zhou Z 2019. A new Jurassic scansoriopterygid and the loss of membranous wings in theropod dinosaurs. Nature 569: 256-259. doi:10.1038/s41586-019-1137-z
pterosaurheresies.wordpress.com/2019/05/09/like-yi-qi-the-new-ambopteryx-does-not-have-bat-wings/
Euparkeria was once considered basal to birds… and to pterosaurs.
pterosaurheresies.wordpress.com/2022/01/17/euparkeria-and-the-origin-of-birds-and-pterosaurs/
Paul Ellenberger thought the pre-pterosaur, Cosesaurus, was a pre-bird. He flipped the manus over to make it so in his mind. He thought the prepubis was a new ilium projection. He didn’t understand the sternal complex (sternum + interclavicle + clavicle) that was just coming together in Cosesaurus.
Ellenberger P and de Villalta JF 1974. Sur la presence d’un ancêtre probable des oiseaux dans le Muschelkalk supérieure de Catalogne (Espagne). Note preliminaire. Acta Geologica Hispanica 9, 162-168.
pterosaurheresies.wordpress.com/2022/01/14/sticking-to-their-guns-three-paleontologists-and-their-pet-hypotheses/
Mike Benton thought the bipedal bipedal crocodylomorph, Scleromochlus, with tiny hands, was a pre-pterosaur.
Benton MJ 1999. Scleromochlus taylori and the origin of dinosaurs and pterosaurs. Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society London, Series B 354 1423-1446.
pterosaurheresies.wordpress.com/2022/01/14/sticking-to-their-guns-three-paleontologists-and-their-pet-hypotheses/
Martin Ezcurra 17 co-authors. cobbled together a chimaera of several lagerpetids and protorosaurs from around the world and thought they had discovered a pterosaur ancestor, one that ran on two toes and had small hands and no fifth toe. Novas and Agnolin 2016 nested Lagerpeton with Tropidosuchus, among the Proterochampsidae.
Ezcurra MD et al. (17 co-authors) 2020. Enigmatic dinosaur precursors bridge the gap to the origin of Pterosauria. Nature (2020). doi.org/10.1038/s41586-020-3011-4
Novas FE and Agnolin FL 2016 Lagerpeton chanarensis Romer (Archosauriformes): A derived proterochampsian from the middle Triassic of NW Argentina. Simposio. From Eventos del Mesozoico temprano en la evolución de los dinosaurios”. Programa VCLAPV. Conferencia plenaria: Hidrodinámica y modo de vida de los primeros vertebrados. Héctor Botella (Universitat de València, España) 2016
pterosaurheresies.wordpress.com/2020/12/10/new-pterosaur-precursor-study-excludes-all-pterosaur-precursors/
Prothero and 15 coauthors in 2021 followed several prior authors over the decades in announcing that all whales are artidactyls (= cattle, camels, pigs, deer). The solution is to add taxa to analysis. Then the ancestry of baleen whales includes desmostylians, hippos (no longer close to deer, camels, etc) and mesonychids. The distinctly different ancestry of toothed whales includes the long-nosed, echolocating extant genus, Tenrec, just prior to pakicetids. You’ll notice immediately how much Pakicetus looks like Tenrec.
Prothero et al. (15 co-authors) 2021. On the Unnecessary and Misleading Taxon “Cetartiodactyla”. Journal of Mammalian Evolution. doi.org/10.1007/s10914-021-09572-7
pterosaurheresies.wordpress.com/2021/09/17/are-whales-artiodactyls-no/
The list goes on and on. More later if you have a part 3.
Wow, it is the legend himself! Looking forward to your reaction to your entry on the iceberg.
@@TurtleMarcus If you're talking about my entry in part 1, that's in the part 1 comments section already. I hope everybody learns from this experience that Darren Naish is not the little angel everybody thinks he is.
ain’t you the same dude who things nautiluses are highly derived urochordates
8:54 The Bible actually contradicts itself here, as at different points it states the flood lasted either 40 days or 150.
Thank you for saying this.
Forty days of rain, 150 for the rain to evaporate.
Okay, 40 day of rain, and 110 to dry, equaling 150 overall.
@@The_Practical_Daydreamer That’s how you might interpret it to avoid contradiction, but it isn’t actually stated that way in the text. At Genesis 7:14 it says “And the flood was forty days upon the earth.” and at 7:24 it says “And the waters prevailed upon the earth a hundred fifty days”. It’s almost the same sentence, just with the numbers swapped. No attempt is made to distinguish the 40-day-period from the 150-one, the wording in both seems to refer to the flooding event in general.
@@manospondylus Hello ive got my Bible with me (ESV) translation, and in Genesis 8:3 it says "and the waters receded from the earth continually. At the end of 150 days the waters had abated". Im not a Theologian, but it seemed Noah waited for a long time in the Ark, because later it states that on the tenth month and tenth day the Ark landed on some mountains after the water receded. And then Noah waited 40 more days before opening his window on the Ark.
They used to grind up mummies from Egypt as a form of medicine, so it's not that hard to believe that they would do that with fossils.
I really like this series, and I always look forward to the next episode. Take your time and make what you love. Quality over quantity man!
Quality? He actually says in this video that Archaeology is the study of Noah's Ark.......
@@daemonthorn5888 Arkeology and Archaeology have very similar if not the same sounding name depending on accent, but they are two different topics, what you are hearing as Archaeology is Arkeology which is the study of Noah's Ark
So stoked for this!!!
An archaeologist and an arkeologist meet each other... what is going to happen?
It's good to know that I wasn't the only one that realized what he said...... ugh....
The most epic battle in history, that's what!
Thank you!!! So thrilled to watch this before bed. The videos are great. Never obsess over the comments. Looking forward to the rest :)
This series is very entertaining, looking forward to the next one as well as the rest of your content! 🦕
You pronounced "Stanisław Lem" really well. Your polish accent sounds great 👌 Have my appreciation
Is saltation (12:03) the same as Punctuated Equilibrium? My understanding is that P.E. is pretty well regarded in Paleo circles, but I may be wrong. Thanks
You put so much work into these, super entertaining thank you!
I would point out that the nature of Venus had been worked quiet well ahead of the Venera landers. Mariner 2 was able to get a handle on the planet temperatures and basically ruled out complex life then and there.
I've been looking forward to this
I just read the Invincible by Lem recently! It was probably one of the first stories to propose the idea of machines taking on reproductive and evolutionary processes of living beings independently of their original design.
32:10 when your grand dad read some Evangelion analysis online and non-sarcastically believes in it
You did great on Stanislaw Lem :D
Lem was great polish sci-fi writer, almost a visionary.
40 days and 40 nights it rained. not sure how long it took for the waters to receed.
It took 0 seconds because it never happened.
@@nakedlauging I think the idea as far as combining science and religion would go is to wonder hypothetically how long it would take for that much water to receed.
@@doommagic And exactly where would the water go if the entire world was engulfed underwater?
First and glad to see more of this
@20:11ish--
You mean it still considered an hypothesis. In science theory is the highest form of knowledge. It's very different than the vernacular use of theory that means like an educated guess. Hypothesis would be a better fit for what you meant when it comes to science.
In scientific jargon, a theory is an explanatory framework that _is_ supported by evidence; as well observations, laws, mathematics, and other factors. A scientific theory is "good" if it has both explanatory power and, more importantly, predictive power. In science, predictive power is key because it means that your theory or model makes accurate predictions in explaining observations.
So when you're talking about science, saying "it's just a theory" or something similar, doesn't really make sense, as theories are the top tier. Theories never graduate into facts or laws, or what have you. Theories usually _contain_ facts and laws.
In science, a fact is a single demonstrable proposition or observation and a law is a single observation that seems to be universally true under a given set of conditions, and can be expressed as a formula.
By the way I'm not criticizing, or trying to condescend to you. I'm just trying to point this out because pseudo-scientist types, like Young Earth Creationists, and flat-earthers, love to say things like "it's just a theory", as if theory is not the highest form of knowledge in science. Imo they deliberately conflate the colloquial usage of theory with its scientific usage to misrepresent science-- science their own pet hypotheses are pseudoscience and cannot be substantiated scientifically.
also, it's not well known to the public at large, but in science nothing is ever fully proven, because of the nature of science as an inductive method of gaining knowledge rather than deductive it can never be proven which only really exist and deductive logic and math which is because of definitions when you're something is true by definition which is also called analytic reasoning.
In science, hypotheses and sometimes even theories can be falsified but never proven 100% true. But that doesn't mean science doesn't demonstrably get us much closer to truth than any other method humanity haas ever devised for gaining knowledge. Cheers
Very close with Stanisław Lem's name pronunciation. Good job.
i love this series a lot and i'm very happy you're covering it, keep up the great work
I'm glad you enjoy it!
Yes I was excited for this! 👌
I found your channel through your iceberg and as someone who's always loved paleontology love your content
Oh boy ive been so excited for this video
Omega point is basically The End of Evangelion
Hey, finally!
Shinji! Get into the Omegapoint or Rei will have to do it again!
Amonites were also callwed Devil's claws.
At 28:18. Dethawing? Is that the same as thawing?
RIP old man in the mountain
So excited the next level is out!
Awesome video! Truely interesting and educative series.
I find the aquatic ape theory fascinating. It is one of the many things as to why I entered the study of anthropology in college and I hope to do more research on the subject to hopefully formulate a more convincing hypothesis.
Lol
Sea moke is real
I only know of it because I watched a video about scummy documentariesn and there was a documentary that suggested mairmaids where real and were descended from aquatic apes^^
Aquatic apes = mermaids -Discovery channel
Fantastic pronunciation of the authors name Stanisław Lem, for a non native speaker you couldn't have done a better job! Love the videos, can't wait for the next part.
Thank supreme monad you made a sequel to this
I remember reading the invincible, one of the coolest oldschool sci-fi I've ever read. Definitely recommend it.
I love that I called it about Tielhard because I read the Hyperion Cantos.
About Brujatheosaurus, a new study claim that they were weighing 110 to 170 metric tons. Just for comparison, it is theorized that 100 tons is the maximum limit for a terrestrial animal, heavier than that no legs could support their weight ^^
The searchers don't have found any new material, it's basically guess work XD
Yooo been waiting for this
everyone has a ancient flood story, from the tribals in Polynesia to precontact Aztecs.... no matter where you are in the world all peoples have a flood story
Oh I wonder why… maybe it’s because almost all of them lived in coastal areas or near rivers, explaining this so-called global flooding?
Omegapoint sounds like the plotline of the hit television series Eureka 7. Except it wasn't us, it was the people who came before us, and apparently there's a limit to how many questions that can be asked, like how the ticket machine at the DMV runs out of paper.
I love these. Thanks for posting
noo i didnt know you posted the next part to this. i was so sure i was subscribed 😭 but i wasnt. so im 2 weeks late
@10:10 you nailed the pronunciation, no need for an excuse ^^
Re: Tektites: The asteroid that killed the dinosaurs went miles into the Earth, and there was an equal and opposite reaction-- a plume of molten rock, miles long, thrown up out of the atmosphere and into space. It rained back down to Earth as innumerable glass beads, and their collective heat raised the global temperature to about 1200F.
There was also an opposite reaction on the other side of the Earth. The seismic shockwave that ran out of the asteroid impact ran around the world and converged again 180 degrees away (because the Earth is a sphere) on the exact opposite side of the Earth. There is a credible scientific theory that this caused volcanism at that convergent point.
Dinosaurs on Venus and the theory of Dino Tectites reminds me of the “Dinosaurs on the Moon” theory, believing that the impact of the asteroid flung pieces of dinosaur bone and other prehistoric matter into space, some of which could have continued going and ended up landing on our moon.
The aquatic ape is basically: An aquatic animal that evolves onto land that evolves back to the water that evolves back on land
Read the invincible by Lem. Great book.
I thought for a hot second that "monads" were going to be about how dinosaurs had like one big sack for a testicle
Does anyone know who made the paleo art at 29:33? I really like it and want to see more stuff like that
Great video. I studied a bit of geology in South Africa and I learnt that Table Mountain was used by Christians as an example of flood geology. There is a layer of sandstone over granite which they say the great flood caused. It is a remarkable geological location.
I found your channel coz of the ice burges. Really enjoyed your other content.
My meme fringe theory:
All snakes evolved from Titanoboa, because it got so big that it couldn't walk to support its own weight.
So hyped to watch this!
Do you have a link to the walrus-spinosaur art? It's really interesting ans I'd love to see what else the artist has made
31:29 How did this guy watched neon genesis evangelion so early.
“Nuclear Tektites”
Me, a Zelda fan: hmmmm……
“Rock formations”
Oh :(
Good stuff keep in comin
Love this series goddamn
Loved this one! Hilarious theories!
Curative and prophylactic fossil consumption, eh. I wonder if the likely presence of calcium carbonate can explain any of the effects they may have had? People may have been taking essentially primitive Tums in the form of ground up fossils.