Model ship building - 18th-Century Clydesdale Plantation SLOOP in scale 1/4"-1ft (
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- A rare example of 18th century coastal sloops that once linked Savannah, Charleston, Georgetown, and other major cities during the Colonial period...
This video is about how I build a model of the Clydesdale Plantation SLOOP in scale 1/4"-1ft (1:48) and how I do research to reconstruct parts that are lost...
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You are so fortunate to have Olha to help you!
And she to have my knowledge base and library :-) A very symbiotic relationship.
I appreciate the variety of areas you cover on your channel, and I hope that this video encourages people to try their hand at model building. They can be intimidating to many, especially if they start with a project too complicated.
Thank you for your dedication to sharing your passion.
Thank you for the kind words! I am hoping this might encourage people to stop modeling only the same old boring and made-up ships but to try their hand at some of the unique vessels excavated over the past 50-60 years. There are so many wonderful, accurate, real ships that have been published!
Well Dr. Batchvarov, you as stated , are not as talented an artist as Olha, but then I doubt that there are too many Archaeologists out there that have your knowledge and expertise. Take myself , I am an expert viewer of the Batchvarov channels and will not miss an episode from either of you, my eyes stimulated by one, and my ears and mind by the other.
I do miss your talks and will be eager for next Sunday.
Oh indeed! Olya is the modeler! I am the critique :-) Upon rare occasions she even listens to me 😁. Thank you for the kind words and for watching!
It's good to know someone else shares the same skill set when it comes to ship modeling! Excellent!!
In my case- “working” at best! My modeling has always been for research; not display. Thank you for the kind comment and watching the video
I thoroughly enjoyed the video and format. But the best part of the video is your sinister gaze at 1:52
Hahaha! I’ll
Have to go look at it :-)
Another great video!👍👍. The use of egg carton for bulkheads was new to me, but it certainly worked well!👍
The egg carton is used to gap the space between the bulkheads- essentially it is used as planking. The bulkheads and the central longitudinal backbone is actually made from a cardboard box (thank you, Amazon, for providing shipbuilding material…). Thank you for watching and commenting!
I always enjoyed the smaller working boats. One of the ones I was lucky enough to see was the Active II at the South Australian Maritime Museum in Adelaide.
Thank you for the info!
Thank you Dr Batchverov for this. It prompted me to revisit your video of 10 months ago showing your cardboard frame models used in class, as well as the beginnings of this model. I lived for a while in coastal Georgia near St Simons Island and visited some local plantations and the Savanna area. I’d love to see a short kit for this or at least the plans that Olha produced. I’m glad that she strong-armed you into planking the hull form. Cheers from southern New Mexico. Angus
Thank you for watching and the kind words! Fred Hocker who excavated it and reconstructed the vessel published it in the INA Quarterly and also in a chapter on the shoal water craft of the Southern US. Of course, the title just escaped my mind, but I will think of it and publish it in a comment- if you remind me…
Kroum, Ohla delights us with gossamer confections, the fruit or her skills and craft. You add the deeper stories of how those gossamer confections were the tools of man, seeking and finding most of the earth's surface, using these tools, even the military ones, that seem far to small and fragile to have survived on a stormy night. That is why when you took this up, my suggestion was to tell the stories of the yards and communities that built these craft, those who sailed in them, their days and nights and fears. What made them men of the sea, what made other men turn forests into fleets. The effect those men and the fleets they built or sailed in is a lot of the story of man on earth. If it's ratings you want, try doing the lectures wearing an eyepatch and a ratty mustache, and a gold earring; for you education is a delight- with some you need to fool them and get them invested in the great story first.
Thank you for the wonderful comment! Aye them were the men, them were the stories!
Though I am an archaeologist and as such tend to lean towards the material culture, rather than the more ethnographic aspects. I like the patch idea! I do have a tricorne that the great maritime artist Peter Rindlisbacher gave me when I sailed with him on his sloop in Lake Champlain. Perhaps I shall have to wear it in at least one video!
It will be harder to find a 17th c periwig though for my 17th century talks.
nice work.
Thank you! Very kind of you to say so. It wasn’t intended to be a display model; just a teaching tool, but…. Mission expanded
О, ви почали будувати модель! Це круто:-)
Я теж цікавлюся такими шлюпами з однією щоглою, але на них важко знайти будь-яку інформацію чи креслення.
Успіхів вам у вашому проекті!
I have been working on this as a teaching tool and haven’t done anything on it in the last year. Olya will post the bulkheads drawings so that you can download them and use them. The drawings and description of the wreck is by Fred Hocker who excavated it.
Дуже дякую!
I use the same hands on approach (or in this case "on hands") for removing excess glue... I guess that's why girl modelers are much cleaner and neater than us boys hahaha 😂 Great work, i hope we will get to see more of this vessel in future
Thank you for the comment! Yup- very convenient napkin :-) However… I learned it from Olya! She cleans glue on her hand, too
I suspect that the wood for this little ship comes from the USF CONFEDERACY kit that Olha threw away to replace it with noble wood??)))
It is very well made!!
You are spot on indeed! Much of the sloop is built from left-overs from her kits :-) Including the stem, keel, sternpost -which explains why they are oversized. The stand, too, is from Confederacy trimmed to size for the Clydesdale sloop.
As to well-made: I think you are more kind and generous than truthful on this :-) And I thank you for it!
Thankyou.
Thank you for watching!
as a display it would look cool if you had a top down foto, or image from 3d scan of the wreck as it was, in the same scale to put under the model.
At the time when the ship was excavated, the 3D photogrammetry did not exist, alas. It was excavated in 1992, if I recall correctly. They were working in mud up to their waist. In company with crocs and wild boar- entertaining project.
great job!
Thank you! Very kind of you to say so!
Not a bad start, given the original intended materials.
Besides, it was inevitable.
First, you get a cat.
Then the cat is like "So, Oo-man, I can catch & kill my own food and leap 3 times my body length without breathing hard. So, a Nautical Archeologist 0ught to know enough abut ship building t at least make a model, right?"
And, yes, those are some fine lines on that vessel. A most excellent shape to model. Be sore tempting to build a half-scale version for the local pond, too.
Something along these lines, yes :-). We use models a lot in the reconstruction process. As far as I know, a full scale replica is either under construction already or planned. I would give a lot to see her sail!
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Thank you!
Another question Doctor.
Is there a big card modelling tradition in Ukraine?
I ask because you went for card for the structure of this model, and I see some fabulous card kits coming from Ukraine. I recently purchased a 1/100th scale 'Henry Grace à Dieu' from Orel Models, and WOW..!. I would describe it more as a multimedia kit than just card.
I confess I was amazed that the guy was still doing business supplying high quality kits, considering what's going on there. Super impressed. Although about once a week, I get bits of it out, lay them on the bench, scratch my head for twenty minutes and then put it all away again... 😅
Thank you so much for watching and commenting. I am not Ukrainian. I just am pro-Ukrainian and continue a long family tradition of being anti-Muscovian. I am actually Bulgarian so fully aware of what beasts the Muscovians are. Hence my support for brave Ukraine. Which predates Olya by a long chalk.
As to the card models- I don’t know, in all honesty. This is more for Olya to answer. I was not aware of the Orel (eagle in English) company - I have to look for them and see what they manufacture. I know of the Polish company, of course.
As to why I chose card. This is traditional material in archaeological ship reconstruction. Once you work out the shape this way, one builds it also in wood. I never intended the sloop to be anything more than just a card section model showing the lines of the sloop. I built such ones of my Kitten wreck, of the Kyrenia wreck of the 4th c BC, of a French 17th c ship, of the Yassiada 7th c AD. I built them as teaching tools or as reconstruction aid (Kitten). This is all the sloop was intended to be. Then Olya stepped into it. At first I thought I will get away with Ab Hovinh style of card planking, but… Higher Powers intervened again and- voila, the sloop obtained wooden planking.
If Orel is producing a Henry Grace a Dieu model, this is pure fiction. We have no data on her from which to create a real model.
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In England we have a breed of person who we call a 'rivet counter'. The rivet counter carefully scrutinises your pride and joy (this can be anything from a model ship to a newly restored classic Triumph motorcycle, I used to collect those), and point out that it isn't correct for that year/model/type etc etc.
And that's why I like Tudor warships so much. The 'rivet counter' cannot count anything on the model, because we do not know.
The Big Harry is certainly at best a complete guess, as are all the Revenges, Golden Hinds, and Mary Roses, but I like the idea of...
Forgive me, it's a harmless hobby. 😉
First there were LITTLE ships.....Does your understanding of ship archeology help you when you decide to build a model? Do you only work from drawings?
Excellent question. Yes, of course - I hope that my archaeological background and profession help me in the building or at least in knowing what’s historically accurate and what is not.
The ones that I have built or in which I am working are all from drawings- the Keltridge drawings, the Yassiada reconstruction, the Kyrenia ship, now the Clydesdale sloop, a half hull model of the Kitten ship…
An eggsellant model. It’s cool she lets you use her tools. Looks like an interesting boat. After a quick internet read on this and the browns ferry vessel, I have one question; how are the various species of wood identified? Is there a field guide for old rotten wood?