Johnny Gill on Joining New Edition After Bobby Brown Got Voted Out of the Group (Part 4)
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Singer Johnny Gill candidly discussed his relationships and approach to dating, including his youthful crush on Janet Jackson. Gill admitted that he was never one to go out and assert himself, but rather, remained reserved, backing off immediately if his affections were not reciprocated. Recognizing that many opportunities may have been lost due to his shyness, the singer notes that his fear of rejection held him back. He also revealed details about his entry into the hit group, New Edition. Gill hopped aboard the group amid some tension, as Bobby Brown was booted out and lead singer Ralph Tresvant was considering a solo career. Shockingly, Gill mentioned that when he joined the group, he was unaware of the internal issues they were facing at the time. - บันเทิง
Bobby getting voted out and Johnny joining the group was the best thing that can happen to the both of them, with Bobby blowing up as a solo artist and Johnny becoming a star with New Edition
I agree. Despite the tension between Johnny and Ralph,"Can You Stand The Rain" is better than anything made when they were kids.
Facts!!!!!!
Never liked a (new addition)
@@kenterminateddq5311 the hits off the first albums were fun records tho, and well-produced. Just not matured as artists yet because, like you said, they were still kids
Busby did that, MCA always wanted a 2 for 1 signing from NE, they actually got a 4 for 1 out of them (NE, Bobby, Ralph & BBD) Johnny went to Motown after Heartbreak.
NE Heartbreak is 1 of the best albums of all time. Johnny jumped into NewEdition so seamlessly.
Great album for sure
Even though Don't be cruel sold more copies. But it's not as timeless as Heartbreak.
I think it worked because Johnny joining coincided with New Edition's reach for maturity with 'NE Heartbreak', their new sound was perfect for Johnny.
He might not have fit in so easily had it occurred earlier.
both are great. dont be cruel is pretty timeless@@user-vy7dh5vv2v
@@user-vy7dh5vv2v BOTH are timeless
New Edition would've never made it 40 years without Johnny
Let’s not do that
Adding Johnny Gill to New Edition was the smartest thing Mike Bivens and management made. He helped take this group to another level - one that now stands the test of time.
Damn Johnny I'm that exact same way. I don't hassle a girl. That has never been me. I love the people who bring up that might be your only opportunity. Dude. If hassling somebody is your only opportunity, you are about to have a really sad life.
Bruh a lot of us dudes are just like that, especially us married guys. Women think its hard to find men cause they want to be chased & pursued. Men go where they are wanted.
Same here bro! I commented something similar! I’m from the A too, born and raised. That’s just the speed out here I guess
@@FlyiDCG a lot of women who want/ think they deserve to be chased have done/ are doing nothing worthy of chasing them down to make them yours..thats a problem too
Man, listening to him speak on that was like listening to myself. I was nodding along with every single thing.
This dude's the epitome of class
He just made me feel so much better about myself. So many guys try to act like they a player but to hear someone just like me when it come to the women
He just didn't want any false accusations against him which is smart on his behalf..
@@luggerphilippe8409 I don't think it was just that. That's just the way some people are wired. It was the same with Bivens asking him to join New Edition. Bivens asked him, but if he had of known that Ralph may have not liked the idea he would have turned Bivens down.
@@beaujac311 you think so? Turning down New edition back then would have been a big deal .
@@luggerphilippe8409 Yes. Because he said that he doesn't push the issue when he feels something negative. And Ralph would not have wanted a guy as talented as Johnny entering the group taking away some of the lead vocals. But seeing how it worked out it was a blessing in disguise for all involved.
@@beaujac311 Man I want to believe Ralph would have been selfless enough to see him as an asset.. even if they told him upfront because you can't deny the man's talent..But bobby was that dude..he brought that edge to r and b..
Being dropped by new edition is the best thing to happen to Bobby Brown I stand on that💯 some people have to be alone in order for them to prosper! And we saw he did🔥 🐐
I can relate to Johnny for his take on rules of engagement with a woman. I’ve been that way similarly in my life. Just feel more comfortable once I know she’s game
Man me too. If I feel like you're uninterested I'll retract quick. I don't wanna be that guy lol
Johnny wanna hold a man’s hand
Johnny validates the vocals of the group
A guy I knew who grew up singing in groups said that Johnny's vocals supported Ralph's. He said that Johnny could back up Ralph's vocals but Ralph couldn't back up Johnny because of Johnny's heavier voice. He wasn't saying that Ralph was lesser he was just saying how things work in music groups. The song I'm thinking about is Can You Stand the Rain.
This interview is everything. When Bobby went solo, he secured a deal with MCA records. Johnny went solo and got a deal with Motown Records. Ralph also got a deal with MCA records too. When BBD formed, they also got a deal with MCA records too. Interesting how they all made waves outside of NE!!! They each made an impact on the charts once they did their own thing!!!
It was the best thing. Bobby held his own and became a better then ever. Number 1 hits ❤
I'm giving this video a HUGE thumbs up 👍🏾 thank you brother Johnny for giving us all of the classics, your amazing talent, and wisdom. Back in the day I would play ALL of your songs back to back everyday allday. My daughter is 21 and guess what? She also listens to your songs all the time. Since she was little I would always brag to her about how great your music is, and now she's hooked lol. Much respect to you sir.
P.S...
Because of YOU and others I can sing,, you're one of my biggest inspirations..You, Stevie Wonder, New Edition, Bobby Brown, Teddy Pendergrass, Michael Jackson, Frankie Lymon, Gerald Levert, Jackie Wilson, Babyface, Surface, The Temptations, Joe, Tony Terry, Luther Vandross, Freddie Jackson, Alexander O'Neal, and so many more I've learned from.. especially our beautiful black sistas..ALL of them. Black IS beautiful! 💯💯💯
Bobby needed his Solo career time and all that went with it... Johnny was a perfect fit for the group.His Mature Sound brought the group to a older more mature audience...It's good that they all got together again for good... later down the line..It worked out beautifully..
Johnny joining the group took the group to the next level
Johnny took New Edition over the top....... Gave them what they needed at the time...... He just fit.......
Had been a JG fan since the JG and Stacy Lattisaw days. I was so thrilled to see that New Edition, my favorite my group, had signed Johnny. As a sophomore in college, my friends and I bought the Heart Break album and realized that Johnny gave NE the grown up sound we didn't know they needed. Home Again came out when I moved on my own from my home state of Florida to Charlotte NC so it became the soundtrack to that amazing summer of change. So meaningful. I love Johnny Gill and New Edition
Adding JG joining NE showed their growth and how much they mature in music on some boys 2 men now shit
No lie, johnny bodied Boys To Men on NE Heartbreak album.💯
Would anyone argue that NE Heartbreak is the best album of New Edition's discography?
NE Heartbreak and Home Again are my personal favorite NE albums of all-time. 😊
Heartbreak is their Thiller-Purple Rain for sure. Their 2nd Album has a lot of classics too, but Heartbreak is their peek.
Is the second album the album where they are all wearing business suits and Bobby is wearing a tie on his head (Weird but Bobby is Bobby)? @@FlyiDCG
@@kenterminateddq5311 Bobby did the tie thing on 2 of the photos used for the All For Love singles Count Me Out & A Little Bit of Love. Ironically he was out of the group when both of those singles were dropped. The 2nd album is the 5 kids posing for one of those school group photos. It has Cool It Now, Mr Telephoneman, My Secret & Lost In Love on that album.
My bad, I got into NE when Heartbreak was popular. @@FlyiDCG
NE Heartbreak is possibly my favorite album from New Edition.
Finally you got johnny gill thanks vlad you never fail us this man deserves more credit 💯💯💯
New edition lineup change is equivalent to the Temptations when they went with Dennis Edwards. Same exact situation it was like an entire new group and totally changed the sound and thats what gave both groups longevity
I'm the same way when it comes to women. I've never been the type to harass a woman for her attention. If I feel that me and a female have a natural connection, then I just go for it.
I agree. I could never be the type who chased down a woman until she relented. Some women enjoy guys pursuing them in that way.
I came out of boot camp when Johnny joined New Edition and Bobby had his second solo album come at that time, it was one of the best times of my life in Norfolk, VA…and Keflavik, Iceland⚓️⚓️⚓️
Grimmy arse Norfolk. Navy days
1988 incredible musical year in soul/rnb/hip hop!!!!
Charlie Murphy said Johnny Gill thought he could whoop Oscar De La Hoyas ass 😂😂😂
Love Johnny Gill coming into New Edition.
There u go by j gill is perhaps my all time favorite R&B song. I used to tell myself that if I ever get married, that this would be my wedding song
Im still waiting (new jack city sdtrk)would also set that weeding off
MY MY MYYYYYY, MY MY MY MY!…..you sho look good tonight. Legend!! 💯
Hard to believe as big as Bobby Brown was how he turned into a punch line. Bobby was bigger than Chris Brown is now.
Bobby was bigger than Chris Brown EVER was..
Whitney Houston fans never accepted him, so they trashed him for 30 years.
Exactly those two years from 1988 to 1990 Bobby Brown blew up huge than Chris Brown almost 20 year career
Bobby was bigger than MJ if you were young then. He was the King.
@@jamesball5743 Bobby Brown was huge just one year 88-89 over MJ then MC Hammer came and destroyed Bobby Brown and MJ new album Dangerous in 1991 put the final nail in Bobby Browns coffin
Bobby was always the star he had the it factor 🌟
Bullshit one hit album because he was a forerunner of the New Jack Swing Era. He is the worst performer now. He just ran into some dope young producers for Don't be Cruel other than that it would have been the same as the girlfriend album a flop
I love this man so much Johnny Gill is an phenomenal talented gift to the music industry and I’m definitely giving him his flowers now 🌸 💐 🌺 🌹 New Edition is unmatched and seeing them all on stage and even when they did their solos was the best thing that has ever happened to me ❤I love you Johnny
Let's lift each other and be glad when someone fine their talent at a young age and be able to share their experience with the World.I wish whatever your talent is makes your Life Shine. Johnny will always be my Favorite male vocal singer & I Truly wishes him the Best,keep shining Johnny.
There needs to be a documentary about heartbreak and don’t be cruel.
It helped both of there careers Bobby and Johnny but still hated Bobby leaving and i was 7 years old back then...
Johnny gave New Edition NEW life after Bobby.
Bobby leaving gave US
Bobby Brown solo
Ralph Tresvant solo
And BBD
Mr. Johnny Gill why do I love you! I appreciate you and your transparency!
Janet was fine when she was young 💯🐐❗️👀❤
Oh, the shade... lol... I agree, though... she has turned into a regular chick in her old age... nothing separates her now from Keisha on the block.
@@KtotheGI'm sure you're no oil painting.
@@r.m.90 Triggered alert
@KtotheG Truth hurts, don't it? It's always funny to see dusty males who were never attractive talking about someone's looks.
Watching these interview clips I can see why people would think Johnny Gill is gay. But I think he's just sensitive and expressive with his hands. Not every straight man is a savage cave man.
Yep, a lot of people did me the same way growing up. Sensitive, arts instead of athletics, never linked to any girl (that THEY knew of), spoke a certain way etc. Listening to him talk about his experiences with women sounds exactly like me. Everyone always thinks there's something "off" about you sexually, but they never think to check their own damn perceptions and take individuality into account. Apparently if you're not aggressively chasing booty, you must prefer the romantic company of men instead. It's insane
@@justanjustan9624 Facts
I love Johnny giving Michael Bivins his props for bringing him in the group. My question was always, what did Ralph think mike, ron and ricky were gonna do when he went solo? Just wait til he got done with his solo career? Back then, once a singer went solo, they didn’t come back.
PERFECT EXAMPLES LIONEL RICHIE AND JEFFREY OSBORNE
THE COMMODORES AND L.T.D
Ralph said multiple times he never intended on leaving until NE was good. They kept Johnny as a secret to protect themselves. Even in the BET series Ralph told them he was working on some music & they pouted over it.
This the good part Vlad.. views up!
Johnny Gill you did your thing at the concert in Toledo Ohio
I remember Johnny's & Stacy Latisaw's song, WDWGFH?Both are extremely gifted singers.
I love how gave more context on his dating and I get it. I been single for more than 5 years and totally get it.
Vlad should interview Stacy Lattisal
Bobby was the David Ruffin of the Temptations.
New Edition was the best group of all time in Pop, R&B, Rock genre. No other group other had that kind of success for everyone in the group. I was team BBD back in the day. Bobby Brown was second favorite. Ralph and Johnny were singers so they sort of had the female fans mostly.
One of greatest people to play dodge ball with words!! 😂😂
New Edition was not signed to MCA records until 1984 they were signed to a production company Jump and Shoot music that had a deal with MCA records, MCA wanted Bobby Brown so they told the managers of New Edition they had to vote Bobby Brown out of the group because he was a founding member of the group and be still getting royalties and publishing, Ricky Bell was the first member to get almost voted out for fighting but ironically Bobby had the deciding vote and chose to keep Ricky in the group.
You mean Mike not Ricky but everything else you said was right .
NE signed with MCA in 87, Bobby sign with MCA in 86. Jump & Shoot did 4 albums with NE.
NE 84
All For Love
Christmas album
Under A Blue Moon
Then they fired Jump & Shoot & signed with MCA in 1987.
Great video👍🏿
Bobby getting voted out was the best thing that ever happened to Bobby, Johnny and New Edition.
It worked out for everybody. And Ronnie, Mike and Rocky thinking he might not come back was also fair.. His album did very well, plans change, once you are a solo hit, so they needed an insurance plan. This was all before they decided to create, or needed to create, Bell Biv Devoe in 1990
What happened in the BET series isnt totally accurate. Bobby was misbehaving because Jump & Shoot their management company was stealing from NE. This is why Carol Brown, Bobbys mom is shown always asking for money. MCA knew the managers were pimping them. Once Bobby was dropped from Jump & Shoot, MCA signed him directly. Bobby was the first signed to MCA, then the other 4 as NE. Bobby was never signed to MCA as a NE member, but the other 5 were.
He seems like a "Gentle Man" 🙌🏾
Mike and Ralph’s relationship was ruined all on miscommunication
Basically. Bobby was the neutral force that kept BBD off Ralph. Ralph didnt want Bobby out because it exposed him to BBD's jealosy. On top of all the dick riding Jump & Shout was doing.
4:41 If New Edition had a better Black management, that wouldn't have happened. I'd never tell 4 best friends to vote their best friend out a singing group. Especially when you can see how talented they all are together. I would've put Bob in counseling, rehab, therapy. The whole group would've went to therapy.
Damn New Edition didn’t really have to vote Bobby out the group. In some aspect that gave them leverage. That would have gotten them out that contract! They already had a name at that point. They could have went independent or even signed elsewhere. But also, they was young and I’m sure that wouldn’t have been as easy as I make it sound, but still.
Basically gill said the hos come to him😂
Bobby Brown left and started his own group: NEW ADDICTION 😂😂😂
You dead wrong for this comment right here. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm rollin
This was needed
Ricky was an addict, too.. he just kept it a secret. Bobby was just blowing trees until he met Whitney, who turned him on to the hard stuff.
@@KtotheGLol You know that isn't true. Even New Edition said it wasn't true! Bobby was doing his thing before Whitney and vice versa. Bobby even admitted it himself before he changed his narrative after Whitney passed smh.
@@tmason3409 Yep. People gotta stop pointing the finger in one direction or the other. Two people with addictions getting together and bringing each other down is something that happens every day unfortunately. Theirs was just a very long drawn out high profile version of that same old story.
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Johnny Gill was that missing piece……..David Ruffin of the group.
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Vlad probably didn't ask that. Ralph and Johnny owns the right to new edition name ?
Vlad trying to play Johnny G…You like getting chose 😂1:45
Dam..turns out I'm a johnny gill .cept for the voice,talent and fame...😂
First like was me I'm the 2nd comment but everyone tht comes after much luv n prosperity
He ain't tricking me. Girl are you and Janet wanted the same thing probably. Lol
What are you saying?
Damn he fumbled around a lot with that question about Janet
One thing for sure I know about the A when I was young. Heartbreak doesn't last long. You'll be sad a minute, but if you were out like we were, another group would be by in a minute. It's too many to be sad, and in the old days, the attitudes weren't existence. Like Joc said, we have a conglomerate of HBCUs. So it's a lot of educated women. We have a lot of strip clubs. So you got two routes. I always went the educated route. I do have homegirls who are strippers they use to tell me stories that had me rolling. These dudes are out here wild!
I'm the same about women. I'm the king of the fall back. If I sense any hesitation then I'm ghost ✌🏾
Im exactly like him
That girl looks Puerto Rican
JG only problem was his hair line. He had that hair line. The Ric Moon🌙
Johnny stop 🦁! You and Janet were competing for the same guys 🤣🤣🤣
Lol that's how I am Johnny My game has been the same for over a century and it always got me the woman more Darkfine men we been winning I be like I gotta go get my kid soon as ah chick sneeze lol
I believe the crux of why New Edition still have internal issues was B.B.D. going to get Johnny Gill to replace Ralph. I think Ralph STILL holds that against Michael Bivens and the rest of B.B.D. to this day.
Why do some ppl where dark shades inside talking face to face to someone?
Asking for a friend? 🤔
His speaking voice is so diff than his singing
Ralph was leaving is to why Johnny came. Watch the movie.
Im a new edition fan
What'd th glasses for .....it irritates me
If Bobby released Mystical Magic it would’ve been different
I thought Johnny Gill was Bobby Brown for some reason, I thought Bobby Brown returned to New Edition, he didn't. It was Johnny Gill
He's definitely a Gemini 🤣
Each member when talking about bringing in Johnny Gill tell a false story that they all now stick to. Another song writer/singer was brought in to audition "before" they brought in Johnny Gill. If Larkin Arnold is still alive he will tell you himself. I am just going to have to write a book about it to clean up the untruth that they have been spinning for 35 years.
Janet was cool. But I was far more attracted to Latoya and Rebbie.
JOHNNY! Be careful.
Yup. Please don't reveal any secrets on criminal wrong doings. The feds are watching......
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💯Puff Daddy stole my boy Jonny Gill's dance moves in Puff's P.E. 2000 video❗Puff stole that man's moves from Johnny Gill's "Rub You The Right Way" video. Puff was wrong for that one..😂
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I was supposed to be in New Edition also, but a couple days before the audition I tore my acl playing 1 on 1 against Michael Jordan for $1,500.
His’s best song… HALF CRAZY
There you go
JOHNNY GILL is SWEETER Than "SACCHARIN........Ask EDDIE" 😮
This is something I know these young guys don't do. Who remembers what an actual library looks like that is where I use to me my wife daily and have privacy while doing homework.
I remember fam...ha! Did homework and reports there all the time. You are not alone! lol
The corporatation
Na its new edition , sounds just like Mike 😂
i likes janet Jackson.
Johnny gill and Eddie Murphy were dating for a while
Johnny Gill & Eddie Murphy were passionate lovers. They went to rocky road heaven uncountable amount of times.
Chill with the rumors
Who gives a fuck...thats THEIR FUNNY BUSINESS
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BOOGIE!!!
Im johnny gill, i never pursued, never been the agressor, nope
Same Here Me Too...One Love Fam.
It’s the jacket for me. Wtf?? 😮😮😮
He has to go on a parachute mission to take out some terrorists after this interview. Mentioned it at the beginning