XIAOMI m365 BMS Problem - Wrong Bank Voltages Shown

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  • My problem was the following: two banks/cells were showing weird voltages - I measured them and the actual bank voltages were fine.
    This ended up severely restricting the usable capacity of the battery pack: the erroneously low bank would cut the entire battery early, while the erroneously high reading bank would cut the pack early on the charge cycle.

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  • @kiri4470
    @kiri4470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank You! I had a problem that the BMS was dead, I charged all cells to the same capacity, welded the cells (it worked fine), and after a few days there was a problem with cell 9 and 10. Cell 9 was showing 4,5V, and cell 10 was showing 3,5V. After desoldering CF1 everything came back to normal.

  • @metaeditors
    @metaeditors 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very good down hunting

  • @nikstoun
    @nikstoun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for video, same problem i have too, B10 wrong voltage show bms ..blink red 4 times and not charge. But in my case i remove CF 1, its show difference when measure comprare to other capacitors. Now is back to charge :)

  • @steffenrbkhingelorentzcars3542
    @steffenrbkhingelorentzcars3542 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey do you have a link to the diagram for the m365 bms?

  • @secureguard673
    @secureguard673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    u couldn't have found a better time to clean up the screen, perfect spray for every BMS occasion, seeing better is more important than battery fire, great job

  • @Conservator.
    @Conservator. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice analysis and repair. 👍

  • @MakerFabio
    @MakerFabio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi tha ms the the glod video
    Which application is showing ea h cell voltage?
    Do gou know which component is the regulator for the microcotroller, i have totally no action, no blinks

    • @Darieee
      @Darieee  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      m365 tools shows all bank voltages

    • @Darieee
      @Darieee  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no idea where the regulator is tho ☹️

    • @MakerFabio
      @MakerFabio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Darieee thanks , i can not find m365 tooks for iphone. I see m365 dashboard, m365 go, m365 plus. (All woth terrible reviews). Are you using apple devices?

    • @Darieee
      @Darieee  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also run an iphone .. buuuut .. yeah - you need be borrowing an android for these scooter specific applications
      iOS has nothing to offer on this front ..

    • @MakerFabio
      @MakerFabio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Darieee many thanks

  • @Serwis_Elektroniki_
    @Serwis_Elektroniki_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yesterday I repaired the battery with the same problem. Only today I started to google if this is a common problem and it turns out that not only I was doing it: D.

    • @Darieee
      @Darieee  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      alright - nice! same cap?
      at the time I made this video no one else seemed to have complained online

    • @Serwis_Elektroniki_
      @Serwis_Elektroniki_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Darieee Yes. Same cap!

  • @cbrunnkvist
    @cbrunnkvist ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent, very good explanation of your troubleshooting process. One of my M365's suffered either a cell/group failure or a busted BMS, never figured out what to replace. Might give it another look under the magnifying cam ;-)

  • @pauliusnesakysiu6393
    @pauliusnesakysiu6393 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the advice. I had an 8-cell problem. I changed all capacitors to CF1-11. after the change, I drove 16 km with a 75% charged battery. Before replacing the capacitor +- 6km mileage and shows that the battery is discharged.

  • @KannyLive
    @KannyLive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this problem after flashing the scooter?

    • @Darieee
      @Darieee  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      no - this problem has nothing to do with flashing the scooter

  • @ruslansdakuzasvili1176
    @ruslansdakuzasvili1176 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got problem too with charging , was unable to charge battery ,but i was turned on but worked slow and all of the dots count from to one dot ,after removing this capacitor ,scooter not turning on anymore ,battery woltage is ok ,i charging battery with original scooter port ,but without the bms ,and it charging fine ,i guess its Bms gone bad..

  • @lucacavallini561
    @lucacavallini561 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If i understand, if i have pack not allineated, i must remove the corrispondent capacitor in that line Array?

  • @removecrypto3462
    @removecrypto3462 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi thanks for youre video. So you just renoved that cap?

    • @Darieee
      @Darieee  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yup

  • @ZenyWorld
    @ZenyWorld ปีที่แล้ว

    Same here. 9 and 10 fucking banks. I see the Xiaomi should be fined for selling scooters with factory issues and no recalls. Xiaomi no more in my home.

    • @Darieee
      @Darieee  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know about that - thus far I haven't seen anyone build better scooters - do you have any suggestions?
      mine also died and keeps dying because I draw 1.1KW out of it, instead of the factory default of about 6-700

  • @orkizozi
    @orkizozi ปีที่แล้ว

    great video. I had the same problem as in the video. turned out the problem was on one of the tiny resistors on the battery pack. I replaced it and problem solved. thanks

  • @kocakapo1
    @kocakapo1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ich was looking for a solution. I think i have the same issue. thank you for the video

  • @Edwintongol80
    @Edwintongol80 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello darieee, have you ever know what is issue with the fast dried battery , after I ride 5 minutes the battery 8 %to 9 % less battery charged

  • @kexcelkexel1443
    @kexcelkexel1443 ปีที่แล้ว

    Video reparando es2 la bms

  • @intuicio
    @intuicio ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! I have same problem, but at the cells 2 and 3… On cell 2 I have 3.55V and on cell 3 I have 4,12V. All other cells have 3.8. I have alse measured everyone and all of them are same voltage. What will fix my problem? Same issue everyone? Thanks!

  • @stefanputureanu9296
    @stefanputureanu9296 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. Same problem here. Cells measuring good on multimeter (all at 3.65v) and BMS reported one cell empty - 3.1v and one overcharged - 4.25v. Measuring on the BQ inputs - voltages where right as the BMS reported.
    First i have removed all caps from all BQ cell inputs (same problem) and then i removed the BQ chip (voltages got good on chip pads), then i have put the BQ chip back and removed all zenner diodes from the cell inputs - problem solved. My BMS had zenner diodes in parallel with the caps... on the multimeter the diodes measured good - 0.5v voltage drop - no leaks, but they influenced the chip somehow. BTW BQ chip is hard to measure without an oscilloscope... the inputs are oscillating between measurements of the cell (high impendance - normal voltage of the cell) and calibration of the cell (low impedance - voltage dropped). Now the battery is like new: it keeps a good charge and is charging normally. 👍

    • @2mend
      @2mend 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi I also have weird readings and the min max difference shown by the app is twice bigger than the actual readings. Also readings in the app are jumping between two cells randomly back and forth. Did you edned up with both capacitors and zenner diodes removed?

    • @stefanputureanu9296
      @stefanputureanu9296 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@2mend Yes, but that was not the fix. It might be that resoldering the BQ chip fixed the problem for a short period. After a week i had the same problem. I ordered a new BMS from AliExpress and now is fine.

  • @sahiska
    @sahiska 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    me checking the electricity bill: please don’t be high
    electricity bill: 02:17

    • @Darieee
      @Darieee  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣

  • @petr5178
    @petr5178 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, I have same problem, but at the cells 4 and 5… On cell 4 I have 3.5V and on cell 5 I have 4,25V. All other cells have 3.9. I have alse measured everyone and all of them are same voltage. What will fix my problem? Same issue everyone?
    Thank:)

    • @jessemorton
      @jessemorton ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm having the same issue as you. Did you fix it by any chance?

    • @RuiSjm
      @RuiSjm ปีที่แล้ว

      Charge that bank with external lipo charge, that is because your cells are unbalanced.

    • @archminael
      @archminael 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@RuiSjm did you read carefully? He said that have the same problem like in video but in other banks. He measure banks and they are even, only BMS show different values

    • @RuiSjm
      @RuiSjm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@archminael oh, sorry, my bad!!

  • @danielherda8503
    @danielherda8503 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you know what specs are all CF1 - CF11 capacitors ?

    • @Darieee
      @Darieee  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      not off the top of my head, but the datasheet does suggest values - most likely xiaomi used those

  • @siriotec3752
    @siriotec3752 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    hi, i have a strange problem with m365, when i connect the charger, sometimes it starts, sometimes not, when it starts after 5-8 minutes it turns red, sometimes it resumes charging by itself for half a second, then red again, it seems bad contact, I checked all the welds of the battery, and they are attached well, I also tried to buy another charger, but it does the same problem, do you have any suggestions thanks

  • @berberger4814
    @berberger4814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:05 thank you for confirmation, I noticed that behaviour with the glasbed of my printer, but I was not sure
    btw is that an Ipad 7 or 8? cause I got the 7 and the oleophobic coating on mine is not that good compared to others, maybe I should reapply it, did you notice that as well?

    • @Darieee
      @Darieee  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm super happy with the coating on mine a it's a 10.5 pro I think

  • @Ciarkaz
    @Ciarkaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, i've solved same problem on my ES2 internal battery (they have same circuit but packed in different layout).

    • @Darieee
      @Darieee  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      same shifted voltage due to smd caps failing, huh ?

    • @Ciarkaz
      @Ciarkaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Darieee yeah, I've lefted it to charge overnight and soon I'll see results

    • @Darieee
      @Darieee  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      let us know how it turns out !

    • @Ciarkaz
      @Ciarkaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Darieee It worked like a charm. Do you know capacity of these 0603 capacitors?

    • @Darieee
      @Darieee  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      not off the top of my head - but the chip's datasheet has values for the typical application - so - go off those if you really want to put some back on

  • @FxkDGM
    @FxkDGM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any idea where I could find the bms error codes for the xiaomi? If not do you by any chance know what it means when the bms is flashing red, then blue and red a few times and finishes off on a single red?

    • @nikstoun
      @nikstoun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's don't need. If end with red mean that bms not see all 10 groups.Start measure from each point B0-B10 to CF1 - CF10 capacitors on PCB. But first uncut from battery B0-B10