The SHADOW FURY is the NEW BEST MID GAME WEAPON! Here's how...
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- Melee weapons got a huge buff over the past couple of months thanks to the major rework to the Berserker class and minor buffs to the Mage class. As a result, this has caused quite the shift in the meta and demand for particular weapons, raising various questions on what the best options are for the current state of the game. After spending some hours running some tests and evaluating all the pros and cons of every major melee weapon in this game, I've managed to work out the ideal progression model for every player in Hypixel Skyblock. The results were very surprising, particularly with the overall performance of the Shadow Fury...
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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:24 What makes a GOOD Melee Weapon?
4:07 Costing & Requirements
8:41 Gear & Stats Used for Testing
12:10 Berserker Damage Tests
15:03 Berserker Tests Recap
16:15 Mage Damage Tests
18:37 Berserker DPS Tests
19:45 Berserker Clearing Tests
22:12 Weapon Value Analysis
26:21 Which Sword Should You Buy?
28:48 Outro
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Shoutout to my editor for having a hard time spelling "Bouquet of Lies" and writing "Bonquet of lie" instead. See how many of the spelling errors you can spot in the video
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I love ur vids ModernSoldier
we still love the editor
I use a reaper scythe could you see if it has any use in bers proggresion as Im doing solid dmg with it and want to know if it's worth it to switch to a sf (ik sf is better but it is more expensive and im not sure how much better it is)
Bro at 28:20 u should hv jumped after seeing giant's sword
youre actually one of the only people that actually help me out, cus rn me and my coop are stuck in mid game with blaze, sa, and crimson sets not knowing how to prog or what to buy. thank you!!
Happy that you DID NOT use any One for All enchants or Soul eater or anything like that. This test, or "experiment" you could call it was very accurate and overall very well done. I'm very surprised that at some point in progression when you don't have very high skills or anything, the Shadow Fury is a very comparable weapon against the Giant's Sword. Also, love the editing so far.
Appreciate it bro, I try my best to minimise inaccuracies :)
I was also really surprised with the Shadow Fury's performance and it still feels wrong to recommend it, especially since I've been known as the guy that tells you not to buy one... Regardless, the facts don't lie, and it's cool to see what the current state of these weapons looks like at this point in time
@@ModernSoldier No problem! Continue the hard work as always.
OfA is surprisingly cheap, I am at the point of the game this guy was testing in the vid and I can easily buy it.
Love your vids as they are always fair comparison for weapons whenever you make these videos and I can see how much your vids have progressed your channel is awesome
I always knew the shadow fury was better than giant sword. Honestly, the admins have to buff the giant sword, like a passive buff ability or even more swing range, if they buff it, they have to buff dark claymore too. They could also make the giant sword easier to get to make it cheaper.
Very good video! I was struggling to decide whether to use livid or shadow fury and so thanks for the info!
If I had a penny for everytime I lost something just to realize that Im holding it I would have enough money to buy my phone that I lost...
That you holding lmao
thats the joke@@AIGuides-101
This is a good one😂
@@patrikprof6295 thx just thought of it randomly
@@befil3621 ye I got that
I think they should give a light buff to felthron and bone reavers damage, so it actually is better for the cost.
I think its recommended if you have life steal V for bouquet of lives since every time you hit a mob you gain 2.5% of health and life steal takes away 10% of your health per ability use and it can hit up to 15 enemies so you regain 37.5% or 1/3 of your max hp
but if you want to use one for all, you need to have a zombie sword for healing or be healer as of my suggestion
Actually syphon is better if your in dungeons
one for all users=🤡
dps is wayyyyy better with enchants+healing
for one shotting mobs, soul eater exists
@@Priyanshu_803 use the itchy power stone and you will have the same dps with wayy more damage
Really needed this video. Did not know if i should upgrade to GS or stay with my SF. Thanks
I also didnt know if i should go from my hyperion to a shadow fury so im glad we know fs is the best now i can give away my useless old sword
Invest that 100m into A.H. Flipping.
Im just looking at the dps for the giant sword shadow fury etc and the bouquet of lies and the felthorn you attacked a sa and a unstable lost adventured which had 600-700k more health than the lost adventurer you tested the giant sword and shadow fury on so by that logic is the dps of yhe bouquet and felthorn not higher?
as a cata 36 player with gs and 600 mp, gs does about 10% more dmg than my shadow fury did with the only change being a recomb, out of dungeons, gs is about 20% more dmg
This is really interesting, because at c42 the GS was only ever doing less than 1% more damage (if I remember correctly, it was 43.8M dmg vs 45.2M or so) and at c50 I don't think the GS ever outdmg'd (my friend tested these, I'm not sure how fair the tests were)
Still important to know that these weapons are reaaalllyy similar in damage and that your profile stats make a HUGE difference on which ones will outdamage each other, so in most cases I still think the SF is a better option, solely because it's 1/3 cheaper
Really? I do 540k with SF and only 548k with GS, I have 800 MP. In my opinion SF > GS because of the pricing. Although Felthorn > both because of the ability and reach
@@SomeStuffNLH The damage differences don't really matter here since they're all practically equal, but as you said, "felthorn > both because of ability and reach"
Just go for what you personally prefer more. If you like the ability of the felthorn, that's a valid reason. If you like the SF's speed, also entirely valid :)
Bro use ofa on GS and shadow fury btw no one noticed GS ability during mini boss and clear it have cooldown but in my experience it is a life line suddenly a low health situation by right clicking the area is clear my progress I done like this
1.aotd+drag glove
2.shadow fury
3.giant sword
And it is fact I am using it in my first m7 as Right click mage's side weapon
Giant sword has no power
Untill you don't have magical powers
@@SomeStuffNLHthis is outside of dungeons right? I do like 1.3 with my claymore and like a lot less with fury
I've been using bol in F7 and It actually performs really well overall, Also A tip for using bol is to use It's ability directly on the miniboss surrounded by mobs then spam the left and right mouse buttons Because of soul eater making you deal haha funny big dmg while left clicking the miniboss and the healing berserk gives you when killing mobs, So it basically works like archer but for berserks
W tip
i typically use bouquet because the clearing is just
really fucking satisfying
the hp isn't really an issue since syphon exists, and as long as you aren't relying on it all the damn time you should be good
also wand of atonement exists, that's nice too
i don't recommend using it in floors that you had recently unlocked though
if you have an especially tanky setup (frozen blaze is the best example) then you can just blast through enemies in f7
The problem with so many of these types of videos, is the talisman bag. Strength and Crit tuning is incredibly important for damage, and impacts these damage numbers a lot. I get that it’s a consistentcy point, but something that favors certain weapons over others should not be included in a test meant to compare the damage of weapons. Otherwise, good video.
That's why I stress it heavily in these videos. I did test with other reforges off camera and if I'm not mistaken, I believe the SF edged out the other weapons regardless, I just don't remember by how much. At the end of the day, most of these things perform very similarly and you really should only be choosing your pick based off of personal preference.
SF: Speed and overall mobility
Felthorn: Swing range & awesome RCM ability
GS: Swing Range, different RCM ability. I will say that I could never find a way to justify the GS though, I still think this one is too expensive
Regardless, very good points by this comment :)
@@ModernSoldier i think livid dagger is a better weapon than aotd
1- price tag, the aotd costs 1m and the dragon fuse glove costs 9m (so 10m) and with ultimate wise 5 (2.2m) as ultimate wise 5 is needed for both mages and beserkers to use it as it is a good ability
if you used all of this money to invest into livid dagger (6m) with maybe a soul eater 3 (6m) you would deal so much more damage in f4
2- attack speed is really good for f4 and f6 with the amount of mobs near you as it could heals you really fast when using beserker
3- crit chance as it could be quite hard to get for low cata levels
4- damage output, as you were using silky power stone that gives a lot crit damage however thats good for aotd (which has a good strength but lacks the crit damage, compared to livid dagger (if you weren't using one for all) you could get a lot of crit damage if you were using spicy reforge and have critical 5
so using a power stone like bloody seems more fair, however when using silky and spicy reforge is actually where livid dagger shines with full shadow assasin perk as it could easily gets you to balance between strength and crit damage before the boss fight
overall i see livid dagger is better and can be much better in specifc scenarios while only downside it has is the requirements
damn I never thought of getting the shadow fiury now I know how to get better lcm damage to solo f6
Man i LOVE these kind of videos
All of the four last weopens are usefull in there own regard just choose the one you prefer
Absolutely. They're all so comparable that you should be picking which one you want based off of general feel, since none of them are miles better than each other
Well SF did surprised me with its outstanding performance but it could depend on the power they are using, so GS might be significantly better in some other cases.
I literally just bought a shadow fury 2 days ago and now I know that I didn't waste my money lmao
the felthron reaper is 20-35m now and when its fragged its just slightly worse than sf but it has a way higher swing range. but honestly its a good replacement if u dont have the money for a fragged sf since its 50-60m which is double the felthron
Higher swing range is basically equal to higher speed. Both are very great and relaxing clear
@@No1rated_salesman1997 yeah more chill than the juju
yeah my livid dagger was doing more damage than the giant sword but when i enchanted it with one for all and manage crit dmg and strength balance I'm doing 3x dmg!
Hiii Great video! your vids help me a lot on what weapon I should get and what i need to not get.
It would be really cool if you started an iron man or a pay to win series like rage train.
Thanks for the vid!
Yea it would be very cool
on alpha before release, felthorn did more damage than giant's sword, sad that it got absolutely dumpstered on when it got released
i think the mid game weapons depend on how you played skyblock before the choice of getting them. if you didnt grind coins just skills so ur broke then its defo the bouquet but if youre richer than that its the shadow furry as the speed is useful
Nice video, I’m deciding now that I’m going to be a berserker since it seems to be better than my set up as a archer (spirit bow with frozen blaze armor and a golden head/tarantula helmet and legendary blaze pet) and now I’m going to be berserker f7, than I’ll will get necron and maybe if I have the money, a wither blade, honestly I’m going to try to do enough f7 runs until I get a necron’s handle since I want a Hyperion or Scylla for eman, I’m trying to get juju but it’s not really going to well. And after that I guess I might push for eman 7 since with the Hyperion I could actually do them, hopefully, probably. I guess me telling my entire plan was just me making up a plan and reading it to myself so I can like, yea. Idk it’s 2 am for me and I’m tired, all I know is I’m going to switch to berserker and do f4 and f6 runs until I feel like I’m good enough for eman slayer. Idk why I keep on dying to voidgloom 2 cuz my stats are I think better than any other guide but so far I died on all of them, the closest I got was 4 million hp, if you want to help me you can see my skycrypt, my ign is Thekings1yer and my profile I main is coconut. Please help me by telling why I keep on dying
I think that waiting till floor 6 for bouquet of lies is the preferable choice for an actual early to mid game player because early game getting the 50m for a shadow fury can be pretty hard, so i think that getting bouquet of lies until you can afford shadow fury is better. I upgraded to bouquet of lies from livid dagger because its what i had and upgrading my sword was the easiest damage boost i could get. I have decent stats, but still struggle very harshly to make money, so going from epic to legendary tiger pet and buying bouquet of lies literally made my (out of dungeons) damage get boosted from 30-40k up to 70-80k not including rng from my armour. And in dungeons it went from 50k no blessings up to 250k after also finally getting all my stars (had 2,3,3,2 fragged SA) This was really informative as to what to get next though before i make it to late game items.
just to make a point giant sword is not completely useless as one of the best money making method(sorrow grind) starts with the giant sword. but if ur only looking at dungeons that he is completely right
I have a very awkward situation because I had livid dagger and got cata 19 for f6 for Flower of Truth, because I had used it before the nerf and it felt very capable, but was quite underwhelmed and went back to livid dagger with f6 completion. When I saw this, I had an f6 completion and about 30 f5 completions(I dont do dungeons a lot), and I decided to upgrade to BOL, which was an amazing purchase, the BOL is a phenomenal weapon, and it's my main clearing weapon. After that, I went back to grinding f5 and dropped a shadow fury on run 38. I have the interesting position of owning BOL, Shadow Fury, and Livid Dagger, and imo the bouquet is just the better clearing weapon(I was and still kind of am a pvp main so I am used to managing health, so that was not an issue). Sure the Shadow Fury has better damage, but the BOL can kill like 7 or 8 enemies with one right click. This is not bias because of price, because I got Shadow Fury for 15m from chest, so I paid about the same for both. I would recommend, if you have the budget or already own a Shadow Fury, upgrade to BOL for clear, it is so much better. I have also been having the issue of clicking on secrets with shadow fury, but it uses ability so I don't get the secret.
SF is way better for mini and boss
in my opinion, felthorn is far better then a shadow fury out of dungeons. Since melee damage per second isnt really needed outside of slayers (but slayer specific weapons almost always preform better), the utility offered by the felthorn is very nice to have, its also cheaper then the shadow fury now…
Entirely fair, but if you want an inside AND outside of dungeons weapon, now you have to weigh up your pros and cons. Do you want more convenient outside utility and mediocre inside performance? Or excellent inside dungeons performance with standard outside utility.
As I always like to say, most of this stuff just comes down to personal preference. I try to present the facts as best as I can and let you guys decide what works best for you :)
just use a claymore
I love the vid, was planning on buying a felthorn but honestly gonna go for a SF now
This was literally me. I was once a bit of a 'Shadow Fury hater' because it was genuinely a garbage weapon a few months ago, but these tests really changed my perspectives a lot, not just on the Shadow Fury but the Giant's Sword too. Initially I quite liked the Felthorn because the abilities seemed really appealing, but after playing around with these weapons more, I've just not been able to justify the Felthorn Reaper's gimmicks at all, since they don't seem to outperform the SF in anyway and the SF very clearly outdamages in all areas
@@ModernSoldier I totally agree, i had once gotten my hand on a shadow fury a while ago and was disappointed for the price. But even though the level I maxed it to now is really overkill I’m rly impressed and it allowed me to get other upgrades instead of the 200m on a Gs. And I always here people saying the felthorn abilities are so great but personally there decent at most but nothing great and like u said the speed out weighs. Overall this video has saved me so much even months after it came out 😂
2:30 "um actualy, the dark claymore is better for mage if your playing lcm" 🤓
in all seriousness its good 2 see u uploading again ur content is 🔥
You should do one for all with gs in lcm as a mage
I've found the super/hyper cleavers to also be very good for f1-4 (especially on ironman where better weapons are hard to get)
Would have liked to see ofa giant sword tested, and mabye some testing on your main profile with better stats to see how it affected the damage. Great video though, keep up the good work!
I never use OFA since life steal/syphon is far too good to ignore, and there are other enchants that are also handy for most players. As for main profile testing, I did summarise my results without showing any footage since the video was already really long, but if that weren't the case, I would've definitely covered them in more depth
Pls dont use ofa enchs are always better
One For All mostly isn't or is never very worth it because all it does gives you more damage, which in some cases is very good. However, you miss out on Life Steal and Syphon which are just necessary healing for dungeons if you're berserk. Also, at some point, Hypermaxing a weapon can be WAY better than just smacking One For All onto a weapon.
@@aleksandarmilosevic7521 Yea if u use ofa u loose ur healing and other enchants like se that can deal the same with ur lifesteal and syphon
I’m trying to go tank in dungeons, and I have a shadow fury. I’m thinking of slapping one for all on shadow fury for the damage, and getting a soul whip because I’ve heard it’s very good with syphon
Not to mention that imo the furfsky shadow fury texture is my favorite static (non-animated) texture in the game
And then they obliterated it in the recent full bloom patch 😭
Do you have a mod list video? I wanna know which mod hides your armor
guys i want to buy a bers weapen does the 1.5 swing range actually usefull (felthorn reaper)or do i get the shadow fury?
it's very useful I get almost 8 or 9 blocks swing range with it but more on ur cata level,shadow furry might be better
Actaully i would have loved seeing the 50mil midas sword.
It might be worse for the berserker class but for lcm it is really powerfull!
Only if you use Midas sword with gdrag for lcm because gdrag buffs golden weapons
@@LetsArctix gilded midas is still better than most options apart from the giant sword, because gilded gives extra stats to gold weapons, but paired with a gdrag the midas can outdamage a giant's sword
@@giblegabite929and decently close to claymore
As an Ironman player, should I continue to friend towards gs or should I focus on shadow fury? The speed it gives, as you mentioned, is very necessary but the damage of the gs outside of dungeons is good too
u tune speed since melee bers dont need cc (you should have 400 with maxor boots etc)
What people always seem to forget about weapons like the bouquet of flowers or livid dagger is that you have enchantments and a passive that heal your hp, which make the livid dagger a much better overall weapon due to its attack speed and makes the bouquet of flowers easily the best weapon for clearing if you have even just some maxor’s boots(or shadow assassin armor for the early-mid game stages of the game) equipped and either don’t miss your clicks or have a good healing item
Also, I almost forgot about it but the yeti pet gives you so much ehp with the bouquet of flowers that you can practically just spam it forever without worrying too much about dying to the dungeon mobs
Agreed, with enough healing items like a wand of Atonement and a florid zombie sword, maybe rejuvenate on your armor. You could basically just spam the Bouquet of Lies forever and get insanely fast clears with that weapon. It's especially useful for the terracota's phase in F6. However, Bouquet of Lies isn't very useful for the boss fight or any minibosses as it should just be a secondary weapon.
Counter point to both of your comments here:
- You can heal with any melee weapon thanks to Syphon and Life Steal. This is not exclusive to the Livid, I have no idea why you even brought this up. The AOTD unironically heals you for MORE because it's a stronger weapon
- The bonus attack speed from the Livid is also completely useless. I did DPS tests, the AOTD still out-dps' the Livid by a very small amount, to the point where both weapons are basically the same. You're not gaining any bonus DPS because of the attack speed so this is a completely useless stat to consider. If anything, the bonus attack speed is what makes Livid COMPARABLE to the AOTD, but it's still more expensive, has higher requirements and less 1 shot capability, making it worse in every aspect.
- I never said the BoL wasn't the best clearing weapon, it certainly is but it's quite tricky to use. The argument of "just use a baby yeti" is useless, because it takes away 10% of your health everytime, which is TRUE DAMAGE. This means that even though you have higher defense, you're still going to take the same damage per right click, and you will drain HP quicker.
Yes you can use healing items to counter act this, but it requires more effort and you are much more prone to dying as a result of this. If you're totally okay with counteracting the health you lose then the BoL is a great choice, but it's important to note that that can be a problem. In regards to being able to "spam the Bouquet of Lies forever", no, you can't, I tried this. I had to take breaks after using the ability about 6-8 times in a row before my health got scarily low, because it'd get to the point where if I accidentally walked into a Fel/got hit by a Crypt Lurker's bone, it would insta kill me.
Overall, the Livid is garbage and I don't know why you even mentioned it's attack speed. BoL is great but dangerous, so be careful.
@@ModernSoldierhypermaxed AOTD when
@@ModernSoldier Good point on the AOTD but for BoL healing you can mix up melee attacks and ability to lifesteal and you wouldn't get to the point where your health is scarily low and you can basically clear one dungeon room without spamming that much(unless you can't insta kill and in that case just melee them). If you are not unnecessarily using the ability against high hp mobs and using melee more often you wouldn't die of ability health consumption(and if you still die it's almost always an ehp and regen stat issue so make sure you optimize health stats if you still die).
@@ModernSoldier I see, I've never actually used the BOL before, I was assuming that you could basically spam it depending on your healing items. I ran some tests on my profile, and it turns out it actually takes a huge chunks of your health. Also, the fact that the BOL deals TRUE damage and not normal damage is quite frightening. I just said "you could spam it forever" before even testing it, I really wasn't thinking was I? However, I did say that it should solely be a secondary weapon and it shouldn't be used in boss fights. But you did say that you had to take breaks because if you went ANY further you can get insta killed, so always bring another weapon that doesn't take any of your health, like a SF or something like that.
In conclusion, the BOL isn't for everybody that like to be aggressive and aren't careful. Thank you for letting me know.
Juju joins the chat:
Also I do want to put out that the aotd for it to be worth it you need a dragon fuse glove and you also need to sacrifice a equipment slot and when putting recombs and fuming on an aotd it is never gonna sell for what you spent on it as with the livid dagger or bone reaver your going to get more money back and end up having an extra equipment slot. That’s all my thoughts so yeah.
principally that it sacrifice you're gauntlet of contagion
The counter argument to the dragonfuse glove argument is that the contagion costs 12M, which is much more than the 7M coins of the glove.
At the same time, the contagion doesn't really buff your damage at all, especially with berserker. I actually tried this stuff side by side out of curiosity and the clearing potential isn't better at all.
When you do upgrade out of the AOTD, you do get this slot back though, and it's likely that THAT'S when you'll want to get the contagion anyways
I use gs instead of shadow fury, the extra swing range makes it so I can look down while running with berserkers insane speed and i also do wayy more ofa is already good with sf but with gs i do so much damage. But once you can upgrade to giant’s sword
What made you recommend the Bone Reaver and Felthron Reaver as LCM weapons in the mage weapon progression video then?
Their recency and lack of knowledge prior to this video. I'm pretty sure I didn't explicitly recommend the felthorn, I just used it as an example since it was 'the new weapon everyone's talking about'. You should be using a SF for LCM since it's very clearly the stronger option
@@ModernSoldier Thank you for answering my question, great video btw!
So should I get any of these if I have a good juju?
There a bingo goal to break 250k wood with your fist. It might be a hint to tell that the foraging update might come soon like right after bingo event end or maybe this spring.
im still torn on upgrading from my aotd + glove + leg edrag to either the SF or GS (ironman profile for context). im really not sure if either would be better considering how bad the grind would be plus the money needed to open each chest would constitute the upgrade or not. anyone have any advice?
This was a great video and was very helpful but my only question is thta dosent the superior armor buff the AOTD without it i dont think it would be that strong
It only boost the right click lmao
ModernSoldier upload les goooooo
felthorn reaper got done dirty If u look at the stats the shadow fury is MUCH more suited to the silky reforge and would probably have less dmg than the reaper on other stats also the felthorn reapers would have EASILY had the highest dps if the ability was used and could probably compete with the claymore in dps with the ability
What accessory bag reforge should you use with felthorn?
@@cofy4307 prob itchy if you need atk speed, hurtful if you don't
@@cofy4307 you can still use silky and clear even floor 7 fine but if u want to make it better than shadow fury then get forceful, bloody, strong
Felthorn will still do less damage no matter what
@@dvddu5888 tbh, i feel felthorn is much better than sf for clearing. just my opinion though, so take it with a grain of salt. also, felthorn's swing range can be useful outside dungeons (occasionally) while the speed doesn't have much use.
I just find the swing range of fragged felthorn reaper funny with bers class and i got mine for considerably lower then market price from my friend
now do one with all of these where you specialise the power stones with the weapon
19:35 he used the bouquet of lies on a shadow assassin instead of the lost adventurer.
I feel like for a mid game player getting money, your skills, collections, reputation, and magic power up are some really important things that helped me at that stage of the game and the giants sword can get you into ghost grinding and other things outside of dungeons so testing the weapons only inside of dungeons isn’t entirely fair. I would include the benefits of the weapons being more versatile for different things to do in the game because dungeons isn’t the only valuable thing
For a mid game player you shouldn’t really be doing only dungeons and when you upgrade your weapon you don’t want to be only upgrading it for dungeons just some thing off the top of my head that you could get into are
Slayers
Crimson Isle
Meseum
Collections
Skills
Minions
HOTM
Garden
Although some of these things are unrelated to needing a weapon it would be important to invest some of the money you would be spending in a sword into something like a good drill or hoe I don’t think that dungeons is something to strongly just grind for hours on end until you have some of those things up. I could see how it would be useful to go for that tho but it would be more time effiecient to go for other things
@@user-fd6cf5ht3c getting into wolf slayer, can farm like 20 bosses an hour. But then again who would I be without mentioning MONEY!
Hello, are you implying that Giant's Sword is worth due to the versatility outside of dungeons as well?@@user-fd6cf5ht3c
The gilded Midas sword is the same price as shadow fury and has 360 damage, 210 strength and 400 intel making it slightly better than shadow fury and giants sword for lcm, even on maxed profiles.
The golden dragon also adds another 100 strength, making it second only to dark claymore, so it can serve you all the way into endgame.
For 50m
Also, warped aspect of the end only costs 5m and has 265 damage, 265 strength and 150 intel making it op for early melee.
If you spend an extra 5m, you can make it an aotv and use an epic enderman, and strong dragon giving it 360 damage (410 for 5s every time you tp) 265 (365 including strong dragon) strength and 150 intel making it also better than shadow fury, and even better stats than Midas (although you are locked into strong dragon).
Aotv can't be dungeonised tho, they removed warped being dungeonised.
But yeah well spotted. It sucks that people don't test Midas.
livid dagger is good for the 100 cc that gives you more options in terms of tuning points.
No it isnt. 100 cc is easy to get with any weapon other then term even without tunings
One thing is there is a lot of things that buff damage to hp using abilities.
Should I put soul eater 5 or OFA on gs for lcm ?
no way upload omg!!
when your base stats are so bad that SF outdamages GS 😩
how is that even possible
???
The ironic thing here is that I got my c50 friend to test it with his hyper maxed LCM setup and the SF was still ever so slightly better than the GS. It really comes down to just how you tune your stats on your profile, because both weapons can be equally as good as one another if you know what you're doing.
@@ModernSoldier that's insane ngl, I really thought the huge damage stat increase would make it better even if in a disadvantage of stats being balanced
@@zkvie Yep, it goes to show that it really just comes down to how to tune your profile stats with reforges, power stone, etc
This test could be more accurate to reality if you had optimized your setup with the power stones most suited for each weapon, instead of using the same power stone for all weapons. I say this despite knowing you said to take raw hit damage test with a grain of salt. You, also, could have used gauntlet of contagion and implosion belt for all weapons besides the AOTD, since they have a huge clearing potential (which very much compensates for the downside of them not being dungeonizable items). You could also have used the soulweaver gloves, although these require f6 completion (i prefer the clearing potential of the gauntlet of contagion tbh). Other than that, keep up the good content and look forward to see more guides.
as for a late game player with over 1.9B nw
I actually am using a giant's sword right now as its way better than my previous felthorn reaper that i used to use, but im gonna buy a dark claymore like today so i wanna know if its worth it or not to sell my gs and buy a dark claymore
Buy a Hyperion
i just got the giants sword and then this video comes to my fyp
I love how this video was posted just after I bought a gs
same lol
yeah don't worry tho gs is better
Looks like my shadow fury was a good purchase
Not sure if you did this before or after then giant sword update but when I upgraded my shadow fury to a giant sword the gs did almost double the sf
then you tested it wrong, the gs probably had way better enchants
wand of atonement and overflux to counter bouquet of lies in boss battle?
I feel like if I dual wield the fury and bouquet I could use the bouquet for clear and fury for mini or bosses, and I could use the bouquet ability while using fury LCD. Let me know what you guys think.
@@based854 I mean yeah but it’s pretty easy to get the 15m back plus I’m not trying to buy the fury off the ah, I’m grinding f5 for it because f5 dungeon chest with fury is only 15m.
@@based854 I mean what else am I supposed to have i already have two empty hot bar slots
what texture pack you use?
The shadow fury is crazy I remember when the update was on alpha and I dealt 500 k damage with full very wise drag armour, and the shadow fury had no stars and wasn’t reforged also I was only cata 15
am i the only when that deals 1-3m dmg with livid dagger on cata lvl 22 and lvl 66 normal
You tried the AOTD damage with the Superior Dragon Armor (that gives the bonus set)
Are you from Europe? The description of superior dragon armor buffs "the right click ability of the aspect of the dragons" not the melee damage...
from my bers 50 cata 50 testing bers is now equal in terms of damage to terminator but not in dps cuz of the 3 arrows so its a worse term in boss and a better juju in clear and in boss im talking about archer damage for term
How can i make skyblock look loke this?? Is it a special pack or something?
furfsky reborn texture pack/overlay i believe
I love that you explain why sime things are better then ither things so i know why and how i can test stuff later on my self love your vids :D
Honestly, the Bouquet of Lies and Felthorn reaver better than all the other weapons on the list because they do good damage and they have their own gimics for DPS, while the other weapons really don't. For example, Shadow Fury really doesn't have a gimic and Felthorn does as well as a Bouquet of Lies, It is not worth getting Shadow Fury just for single hit damage when you can get better dps with Bouquet of lies and Felthorn reaver
I disagree with all of this
For starters, the Shadow Fury definitely has a gimmick and that's the speed. The speed alone is extremely useful with middle of the range stats, because it allows you to spec fully for damage and not have to put tuning points/wear maxor's boots to gain that extra speed. This helps you further boost your dmg even higher, and that's veryyyy useful for any dungeon gameplay
The BoL is definitely a close contender though. It has range which is a massive plus and you can output crazy damage with it, even if it's not as good as the Shadow Fury's. That being said, it's also very risky to use due to each ability using 10% of your health, and if you're not careful, you can die to random mobs substantially easier and requires a bit of a more reserved playstyle. There are ways to counteract the 10% health reductions, but it's more stuff to think about which personally, it gets really annoying really fast
As for the Felthorn, I really wish I could defend it because I genuinely love the weapon and weapon concept, but it just kinda sucks. It's weaker than the Shadow Fury and it's right click ability isn't that great either. I believe it actually blocks left click attacks which is kind of stupid, since this ruins your dps if you use it to burst down mini bosses/bosses, and the +1 swing range doesn't really make that much of a difference compared to the speed that the Shadow Fury provides. What you're able to reach with the Felthorn you're able to run up to using a Shadow Fury, so it's really not as good as you likely think
The AOTD has another advantage over the other weapons, the superior dragon arnour full set bonus buffs the AOTD by 50% It was such a flawless test in general though!
We went over this already in Gab's "how i outdamaged gs with an aotd" video or whatever, superior buffs the aotd's ABILITY damage, not MELEE damage
Oh dang, I'm stupid
what is that texture pack it looks soo good
you should instead optimize the tails for each weapon (using same amount of mp ofc)
This generally adds significantly more room for error and introduces a lot more variables to keep track of though, and generally speaking, most early - mid game players are just gonna go with the popular power stones. Typically this is silky since it's basically free, but testing with bloody or itchy are other possible options I could go for
one thing everyone forgets about is the spirit sword. it's actually quite good considering the price and time you unlock it
Still not better than the AOTD though, so not really worth mentioning sadly
@@ModernSoldier I'd disagree, to a degree. I did more damage with a spirit sword, but I'll have to compare now. also spirit sword gets upgraded to bone reaver
@@theorphanobliterator I'm not referring to the damage though, more the fact that the AOTD has a cata 0 req, while the spirit sword can only get used after F4. There's no point upgrading into the Spirit Sword if you can get similar damage using an AOTD, and at that point, you should just hold off for the SF/Felthorn/BoL
Also, the Bone Reaver is SUBSTANTIALLY weaker than the AOTD, so the fact that the Spirit Sword is better than the AOTD seems like an issue with your testing. You're probably not using a dragonfuse glove, so you might wanna try with that too.
@@ModernSoldier spirit sword massively outperforms undungeonized aotd, however, while being cheaper then aotd + gauntlet, while only requiring cata 9
@@theorphanobliterator That is a good point, but are you really going to switch to a spirit sword for the 3 cata levels before you can dungeonise the AOTD? Even if you upgraded into the Bone Reaver instead, you're spending 30M coins (far more than the AOTD) and seeing MUCH worse performance than glove + AOTD. It's an interesting option in progression, but I still think it's sub optimal
Why no streams?
I am thinking about T7 enchant mine. I can already one shot ghosts (except the rune ones) when I use 2 crimson pcs.
@@based854 SF, what the video is about.
If I had a penny for every time I dropped a Dae axe on Jerry's island and warped to my island accidently I would have 2 penny's but it's weird that it happened twice
Pennies
Btw livid dagger gives 100% crit chance so keep that in mind
Any dungeon armour will bring you to 100% crit chance already, so this is a useless stat
@@ModernSoldier I meant outside of dungeons for early game/mid game
@@doctor3t393 A god pot and any decent armour will get you this too. Even something like Unstable Dragon Armour, so it's still a useless stat
I was here before the title changed
All of the 'new' melee changes
I could of sworn it was months ago
You should have used bloody power to make it more fair.
If I'm being honest though, it was a great comparison.
Should I Use Soul Eater 5, Swarm or OFA on My Shadow Fury?
OFA = shit
i just came back to skyblock after 2 years and i was running livid and fot i guess its time to switch to sf and bol
the superior dragon armor also buffs the aspect of the dragons soo this wasnt that fair of a fight
It says it buffs the AOTD’s ABILITY and not the stats on it. He covered that up in another one of his AOTD vids.
Ur wrong with the giant sword, the dmg increase is much higher than 0.0sth its diff over 55mil a hit against the shadow fury i tested it with my lcm setup. But still a nice video.
Nice, I sold my fury for a giants sword, now this
Very good video 😊
did anyone notice the young drag user wearing their head backwards at 2:37?
Now im sad that i wasted 5 fel roses to felthorn when i can get bol :(
For me when I tend to start l dungeons I would skip aotd entirely as I use mage till I get f5 comp and then I just use 3/4 sa with livd or if I got like some money before then I’d use sa cp but I wouldn’t use glove as when I use sa and other armour sets I do more with livid and soul eater is very good with a livid because you can just 1 tap like a fel with the backstab then you can one shot all regular mobs for the res of the run whilst u can do this with aotd it would just take longer and as I said b4 it does less damage any way in my experience the back stab isn’t a selling factor almost useless but then you can upgrade to a boque of lies or sf also u might have noticed I said I don’t use aotd at all even though u still need to do slayers I will only start slayers once I get sa then grind dungeons for combat xp and money and finish my slayers when I unlock crimson I just find that more fun. Lcm isn’t very useful before u can use sf and beyond with a good set up because of hp and low cata party’s really can’t sacrifice the clearing and the clearing . You said the hp loss of the bof was a large downside because you’ll need to be more skilled but if you use better enchants the hp loss will be more negligible as you have more hp regen and you need to use the ability less so just more hp and also armour,tali’s and pets will also help with this ofc but the more you have detected to it the less it’ll matter and the enchants won’t break your purse that much you can skip gs if you want but I believe the damage becomes more noticeable in higher floors but it’s not like it really matters all that much also he useses full superior armour this video. Which isn’t a commonly used armour set but it’s just out damaged by some cheaper options like 3/4 sa well 2/4 sa because you want to use a g head. If you want to use a aotd until u use sf or bol don’t just leave it undungeonised as the damage is noticeably worse
ig the choice now is do u want 1 swing range or .5 more dps with sf vs giant's sword, and after you would just work towards claymore... rip gs prices XD
@@based854 ... i mean maybe
"And now 1 more crypt just to verify this"
I sound like a broken record don't I 💀💀💀
@@ModernSoldier yoo so happy I responded but yeah lmaooo, enjoyed the vid tho
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should i get superior armor? i currently have half shadow assassin and half upgraded shadow assassin armor. i asked a lot of players this question and all of them say superior is mid, is it true or not.
Sup is mid
In dungeons sa, just use crimson for outside
FoT used to be my choose after aotd and living dagger but now takes hp and the requirement ...
Bonquet of lie FTW
I skipped aotd. I went from the end "lost adventurer qustline" sword to ophelia shop cleaver. Had some carries to unlock max cleaver and am currently working on sa armor
are u going to amke a new video about ur mods?