I don't know man, if opening poorly puts you pretty much dead-on with MSRP, then that's not too bad. That's been a pretty difficult thing to do with most sealed product since maybe Khans.
Yeah, it wasn't that bad after adding it up. It felt bad while opening it though (I didn't have the numbers live while I was recording, added them in after).
Went to a draft tonight and cracked a Damnation (YES!!!!) and an Arid Mesa. I wanted Damnation for so long and I told everyone that's the 1 card I wanted. Pulling it felt great!
My box had one fetch, no Paths, and Temporal Mastery and Past in Flames as the only mythics. Listening to Seth go on and on about how awful his pulls were when he basically got a strictly better version of my box is like a dagger through the gut.
my buddy and i just went in on a box together. foil goblin guide, marsh flats, verdant catacombs, arid mesa, tarmogoyf, damnation, inquisition were among the pulls. we got our moneys worth forsure.
Went to a draft yesterday. We were 11 people and opened 3 fetches 2 caverns 2 goyfs and 1 lili And one guy opened the lili plus 2 fetches( no backdraft).
On another note, I bought 3 boxes and got a foil tarmogoyf, foil verdant catacombs, foil death's shadow, foil inquisition of kozilek, foil might of old krosa, foil ancient grudge, foil flickerwisp, and plenty of high-end non foils. Keep in mind I payed $190 for each of my boxes. In the end, I made about a $250 profit :). Sorry about your box Seth!
$210 still not terrible. I'm terrified I'm going to open this sealed box in front of me and it's going to be no fetches and no good mythics. Was gonna draft it but not finding any takers.
Sorry it wasn't a better box but your reactions to pulling the jank are priceless. :-) So thank you for being entertaining. And, really, three fetches and a Blood Moon isn't terrible but, yeah, I'm worried the box that I ordered will like this one.
That box was a lot better than the one I opened, I only opened one Marsh Flats and my mythics were Craterhoof and Linvala, not even a single path to exile in the whole box.
that's an unfortunate box there Seth, I've opened 2 so far with over $300 worth of value each, nearly choked when I pulled a foil verdant catacombs, foil craterhoof, and tarmagoyf all in 1 box!
I did get a blood moon, a single fetch, a craterhoof, and a voice of resurgence as the noteable rares in mine, but mine was like yours, a lot of non-value cards. I ended up having better luck with my release draft and opening 2 additional packs, pulled 3 fetches out of that lot.
I want this box! My top pulls were: Goblin Guide, Foil Ooze, Craterhoof, Decay, Path, 2x Inquisition. Here is to hoping I win your guy's box giveaway lol. As always, great vids!
I've watch 4 different youtubers open 6 different boxes and apart from Rudy's Snap foil Goyf pack the rest has been really underwhelming. Glad I chose to go for singles instead of a box this time.
I have come to the same conclusion. I've already picked up some extremely cheap stuff. Not as fun as cracking packs, but 3x $29 Scalding Tarns is pretty legit.
I bought a pack hoping to get the last azorius signet I need for my pauper deck. got a foil verdant catacombs so can't complain too much, but man where are the azorius signets? I've seen two whole boxes opened now and not a single azorius signet
I've heard of boxes being as low as $120. The Prof said it best: If your goal is to build a deck, do NOT crack packs or boxes. The odds are against you for hitting the cards you need and against you for making money. Seth prolly paid about $200-210 for his box so he broke even, which you really can't complain about. But, some of these cards are at their lowest point. Alot of them should go up 25% over the next 1-2 years.
Wow, did I say his goal was to build a deck? I've been watching Seth for over a year. Please make sure of intent before posting like this. Not mad, just letting you know. Cracking a box can be fun. I watched it because I love Saffron Olive.
I hope wizards shoves product down out thoughts and we suffocate in mm17 and your price prediction is wrong. *Chanting in the distance* Second wave .... Second wave ... Second wave
Your box had more value than mine. I got Damnation, Verdant Catacombs, Cavern of Souls and Marsh Flats. The rest was jank. I think it was like $170 total. Pretty disappointed, but I've never had great luck on boxes, so it is par for the course for me.
I wonder if on super high value set's like these, they go extra far to make sure no one ends up with like an $80 box or a $400 box and have X number of combinations with many repeats to ensure a more consistent distribution.
Matt M The amount of time it would take to build that kind of an algorithm is pretty high. I think that it's subject to variance because the value is spread out very nicely, but for a $10 pack it's very hard to see it that way, and thus cards like Stony Silence feel like duds, but in a Standard pack you would be perfectly happy with it.
Paul M your point? i want a box to draft, but also want fetches. Everyone is so worried about value, Im after playability. hence, my annoyance when someone gets good cards then complains because it's not a super rare, expensive, card.
My point is the way you phrased your original comment didn't really make that much sense. You're basically saying "It's a good day I got a specifi, $60 rare out of my $220+ box" when if you just need that card it would just make more sense to buy it as a single. You're now adding the whole drafting component which is fine but that's not where you started.
These boxes are really oddly mapped or whatever term you use. Some boxes are really crazy, Goyf + Snap + 5 fetches etc, and some has nothing good. They SURE managed to make boxes random... because some of them has no valuecards.
Not a complaint, but a constructive criticism. To get a better feel of the draft field, it would have been nice to see even a very quick flick through of the commons before listing the uncommons and rares out loud.
I don't know man, if opening poorly puts you pretty much dead-on with MSRP, then that's not too bad. That's been a pretty difficult thing to do with most sealed product since maybe Khans.
Yeah, it wasn't that bad after adding it up. It felt bad while opening it though (I didn't have the numbers live while I was recording, added them in after).
What a funny box opening, must have been the most hilarious one I've seen so far (and I have seen another one!). Here, have a thumbs up! :D
I wish I had a box to open, love the feeling of opening up packs and pulling out value ;~; if only I had money for a box...
Against the Odds: Full Box Sealed
Went to a draft tonight and cracked a Damnation (YES!!!!) and an Arid Mesa. I wanted Damnation for so long and I told everyone that's the 1 card I wanted. Pulling it felt great!
My box had one fetch, no Paths, and Temporal Mastery and Past in Flames as the only mythics. Listening to Seth go on and on about how awful his pulls were when he basically got a strictly better version of my box is like a dagger through the gut.
my buddy and i just went in on a box together.
foil goblin guide, marsh flats, verdant catacombs, arid mesa, tarmogoyf, damnation, inquisition were among the pulls. we got our moneys worth forsure.
Went to a draft yesterday. We were 11 people and opened 3 fetches 2 caverns 2 goyfs and 1 lili
And one guy opened the lili plus 2 fetches( no backdraft).
Seth, the box knew who was opening it. It knew you could win without any value ;).
On another note, I bought 3 boxes and got a foil tarmogoyf, foil verdant catacombs, foil death's shadow, foil inquisition of kozilek, foil might of old krosa, foil ancient grudge, foil flickerwisp, and plenty of high-end non foils. Keep in mind I payed $190 for each of my boxes. In the end, I made about a $250 profit :). Sorry about your box Seth!
$210 still not terrible. I'm terrified I'm going to open this sealed box in front of me and it's going to be no fetches and no good mythics.
Was gonna draft it but not finding any takers.
Pause at 0:24 to see the real SaffronOlive. CSI magic
Sorry it wasn't a better box but your reactions to pulling the jank are priceless. :-) So thank you for being entertaining. And, really, three fetches and a Blood Moon isn't terrible but, yeah, I'm worried the box that I ordered will like this one.
Its kinda like Seth to open a Blood Moon in his last Pack.
That box was a lot better than the one I opened, I only opened one Marsh Flats and my mythics were Craterhoof and Linvala, not even a single path to exile in the whole box.
:(
Better than my box. I openend 0 fetches, a damaged past in flames, and a bonfire of the damned
total box value was $102
brennerremund I opened a kaladesh box and got a value of like $50
how fitting that your final pack is blood moon of all things
that's an unfortunate box there Seth, I've opened 2 so far with over $300 worth of value each, nearly choked when I pulled a foil verdant catacombs, foil craterhoof, and tarmagoyf all in 1 box!
I did get a blood moon, a single fetch, a craterhoof, and a voice of resurgence as the noteable rares in mine, but mine was like yours, a lot of non-value cards. I ended up having better luck with my release draft and opening 2 additional packs, pulled 3 fetches out of that lot.
Your box was just like mine shift one fetch for a Goblin Guide, oh and you had a bloodmoon... felt bad. I'm going to be the idiot and try again haha
I've opened 5 packs so far of mm3. I've gotten Voice of resurgence, past in flames, cruel ultimatum, deadeye navigator and ranger of evos.
Not insane but dece I'd say. Keep up the content Seth! Your videos are always great!
I want this box! My top pulls were: Goblin Guide, Foil Ooze, Craterhoof, Decay, Path, 2x Inquisition. Here is to hoping I win your guy's box giveaway lol. As always, great vids!
I've watch 4 different youtubers open 6 different boxes and apart from Rudy's Snap foil Goyf pack the rest has been really underwhelming. Glad I chose to go for singles instead of a box this time.
I have come to the same conclusion. I've already picked up some extremely cheap stuff. Not as fun as cracking packs, but 3x $29 Scalding Tarns is pretty legit.
I bought a pack hoping to get the last azorius signet I need for my pauper deck. got a foil verdant catacombs so can't complain too much, but man where are the azorius signets? I've seen two whole boxes opened now and not a single azorius signet
This is almost exactly like my box. I recorded myself opening it, but I got so frustrated that I probably won't post it.
I got four packs today and opened a Goblin Guide.
Seeing cyclonic rift at $3 is insane
the ghost of worth has cursed you
Oh man I love SaffronOlive's voice....
It's not really a bummer box, its still paid for itself basically.
Don't think anyone will top the Professor's seven-box Booster Box Game.
Not too bad considering boxes were going for about $185.
Kinda wish I got a box on ebay at 185. My LCS sells them at 240 plus tax :(. So it looks like I'm not getting a box this time around
I've heard of boxes being as low as $120. The Prof said it best: If your goal is to build a deck, do NOT crack packs or boxes. The odds are against you for hitting the cards you need and against you for making money. Seth prolly paid about $200-210 for his box so he broke even, which you really can't complain about. But, some of these cards are at their lowest point. Alot of them should go up 25% over the next 1-2 years.
Matt M his goal isn't to build a deck, his goal is to get views on TH-cam
Wow, did I say his goal was to build a deck?
I've been watching Seth for over a year. Please make sure of intent before posting like this. Not mad, just letting you know.
Cracking a box can be fun. I watched it because I love Saffron Olive.
I hope wizards shoves product down out thoughts and we suffocate in mm17 and your price prediction is wrong.
*Chanting in the distance* Second wave .... Second wave ... Second wave
So funny that the card you got to spoil was the very last card you pulled
lul bought a box and get Foil and Normal Snap,Catacombs,Mesa,Flats,Linvala and Lili :3
If you speed it to 1.5X or 2X, SafronOlive sound exactly like Jesse Eissenberg.
LMAO
as Rudy would say, you got taken to hose town
At the half way mark: "Nothing exciting so far apart from the 2 fetches" .....dude you got the 3rd and 4th most valuable cards from the set....!
Your box had more value than mine. I got Damnation, Verdant Catacombs, Cavern of Souls and Marsh Flats. The rest was jank. I think it was like $170 total. Pretty disappointed, but I've never had great luck on boxes, so it is par for the course for me.
Sounds like you got like $90 worth of cards
Great video! What headset do you use Seth?
I got my boxes at $170 each from my LGS, so I'd be perfectly happy with a "disappointing" box like this one. Can't wait to draft this set ^_^
in my lgs modern masters costs 450 dollars and the card value is same as american :(
kinkajuu1 where in the world do you live?
sorry imeant 325 dollars and australia
I think El Trumby explained it best in SNL: "America first; Australia sucks; your reef is failing; prepare to go to war."
i just pulled a Tarmo, Lili, Voice, Gristelbrand, 1 foil deaths shadow, a 2nd deaths shadow, a verdant catacombs, marsh flats, and misty rain forest!
and goblin guide
Sorry that you got a disappointing box, at least you pulled the fetches though!
I feel like we open some of the same exact packs
I wonder if on super high value set's like these, they go extra far to make sure no one ends up with like an $80 box or a $400 box and have X number of combinations with many repeats to ensure a more consistent distribution.
Matt M The amount of time it would take to build that kind of an algorithm is pretty high. I think that it's subject to variance because the value is spread out very nicely, but for a $10 pack it's very hard to see it that way, and thus cards like Stony Silence feel like duds, but in a Standard pack you would be perfectly happy with it.
This is why I don't buy sealed. Your better off buying two lilianas and a couple fetches
i would take the scalding tarn and chalk up a good day. need fetches for my slivers lol
You can buy that scalding tarn for less than the box though....you can buy like three for less than the box....
Paul M your point? i want a box to draft, but also want fetches. Everyone is so worried about value, Im after playability. hence, my annoyance when someone gets good cards then complains because it's not a super rare, expensive, card.
scalding tarn in slivers? da heck you running....
My point is the way you phrased your original comment didn't really make that much sense. You're basically saying "It's a good day I got a specifi, $60 rare out of my $220+ box" when if you just need that card it would just make more sense to buy it as a single. You're now adding the whole drafting component which is fine but that's not where you started.
opend up a cavern of souls foil... flipped , didn't actually look at the rare, and it was a scalding tarn,,, jeeezuz
Hey SaffronOlive, make a budget Modern Delver deck! It would be great for everyone!
Didn't he do a mono blue delver in modern? Oh no that was faeries(which was a super cool vid).
Looks like my box.
Wait... So you're not a goldfish??
These boxes are really oddly mapped or whatever term you use. Some boxes are really crazy, Goyf + Snap + 5 fetches etc, and some has nothing good.
They SURE managed to make boxes random... because some of them has no valuecards.
Did make a profit though assuming you only paid 140 for the box which is the price for for sellers.
I wish. I spend half of my day driving around to pick up the box for $220 :)
MTGGoldfish ouch. That sucks man.
Still a better box than the one from a friend of mine: just one Cavern of Souls as 10$+ card, whole box was about 80$ :S
Dude you got four fetches in one box. My boyfriend got three in two boxes....
Do we get to see his face here?
Nope, sorry. Check his twitter for a picture of him.
A little hippy lookin but still a cool guy.
Really like the total value counter, but your stack game is weak seth.
this box looks like my three boxes. no big hits, so sad.
foil bone splinter went to the wrong pile.....
nevermind... there were others...
i hit the exact same mythics as you :(, and also scalding tarn :). Illuminati confirmed?
Actually my rares are SCARILY close to yours as well......(fml lol)
I was making a joke abouthow if you pulled Past in Flames you'd crack all the bad mythics.... im so sorry
listed for $210...you should be thankful if you can sell it all for $150, and most probably quite less
That's what you get for being the jank lord. All the jank.
Nice.
Poor Seth :-(
Effect: Wizards looks to "level out" box values with down shifts and more played cards.
Result: Still shit volatility. Don't open packs, and buy the singles you need ...
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Seths face!!!!
#SethGoneToHosetownMM2017
seth I love your videos but you need to improve your pack sorting
Not a bad box, but basically a loss if you paid what people are paying on average.
This was hard to watch 😰
I find that you had a good box overall. Average value I think.
Something about the angle makes me feel a little sick, though it's lessened out of fullscreen.
face reveal?
Woof
How much food do you think Seth, better known as saffron olive eats a day?
Could have been worse tbh
Not a complaint, but a constructive criticism. To get a better feel of the draft field, it would have been nice to see even a very quick flick through of the commons before listing the uncommons and rares out loud.
whamp whamp... :(
Bummer box dude. I think my opening is the current winner out of all the openings I've seen.
Found you ^^
Giant Monster Games go watch Rudy open his box, it's fucking insane
It's funny, Rudy's done three box openings now, and one box has been bad or out right horrible and one has been crazy good in each video.
wow flexing about opening cards.
the 1 with goyf all 5 fetches plus snappy was nutso on rudys channel
Your pile game is lacking ;)
To all the folks crying about the improper stacking: "If you can't say something nice, don't say nothing at all."
damn, pretty weak box
The uncommon pulls were pretty above average. Nice fetches but yeah, the mythics were BRUTAL
Don't censor comments Seth. You're better than that....
Are you sure is censorship and not moderation?
I haven't even been in the comments since the video was published (was out last night). If it was a link TH-cam audo-moderates them.
Is it any link, might explain why a couple comments I've posted recently didn't seem to show up.
Luko Plakia don't be a dumbass, you're better than that.
Jesse Thibault the fuck? You are too late for this one lil dweebo :\