Suggestion: Rank every cross-gen evolution (except eeveelutions and regional evolutions who can have their own video), from Crobat to Scizor to Weavile to Togekiss to Ursaluna to Annihilape to Kingambit to Archaludon to Dudunsparce
You might put Ledian at the beginning of the video and say that he is the worst of the early-game bug-type Pokemon, but I believe that as the early bird gets the worm, Ledian has the right to graduate from this status and become the worst early game bird
On Shedinja, it infamously DIDN'T learn Swords Dance, but has always had a way to trick Swords Dance onto it by evolving Nincada at the precise level that Ninjask learns swords dance, and teaching Ninjask swords dance as it evolves. They eventually gave Shedinja swords dance because so many sets transfered from earlier gens had tricked swords dance on in this way.
I've found a use for it in the early game at least, it can learn cut and rock smash, and can learn sing, so it makes catching Ralts in Platinum a lot easier
12:06 Fun fact about Insomnia on Spidops- the IRL spider they're based on, the ogre-faced spider, has better vision than even cats and owls thanks to a special membrane in their big ol' eyes. However, in daylight, the membrane BURNS UP, so they have to regrow a new one every night.
I am a bit interested in what defines an "early-game bug" to you, Jimothy, because I'll be honest, Karrablast and Shelmet are NOT early-game Pokemon in their debut generation. Karrablast is found after the fifth gym and Shelmet after the seventh. You can catch Dwebble way earlier than that, and yet Crustle isn't in this video.
Agreed. Larvesta is available before Shelmet in BW since you can Surf to get its egg. Pineco and Heracross are available relatively early in the Johto games with use of Headbutt, and you can obtain even more bugs like Venonat, Scyther, and Pinsir via the Bug Catching contest. I could keep going, but really I think it's probably just an oversight from a guy who probably doesnt play the base games extensively
17:23 is genuinely the best description of Wormadam Trash I've ever heard (not that anyone talks about it) "Are people throwing steel in the trash?" Is the question we've all been waiting far too long to start asking
"Early-Game Bug" definitely doesn't apply to most of these, Pokémon like Escavalier and Accelgor, who are found around the time you beat the fifth gym in the game they first appeared in, have nothing in common with stuff like Beedrill and Ledian other than the Bug type
Dustox isn't great in competitive, but it is quite strong in nuzlockes, at least. It learns stalling moves like protect and moonlight very early by level up even in its debut generation, and is one of a short list of pokemon to learn toxic by level up in gen 4. Combine that with passable defensive stats for the early game and you have a great early game carry, especially in gen 3.
I'd argue dustox could be ranked higher as it shows up and is definitely usable in PU/ZU in some gens. Ledian, krikitune and beautifly have been untiered garbage as far as I know.
Lot of different "formats" for different Pokemon to be successful within. Dustox can even hold up in some of the "enhanced" romhack nuzlockes thanks to doubles/pivoting/utility.
It appears Jimothy is improving and instead offering gifts to the weak and defenseless Pokémon. Will this streak continue or are we doomed to see the beloved Pokémon Stufful come under threat? Only time will tell.
6:36 If Mothim has a million fans, then I am one of them. If Mothim has ten fans, then I am one of them. If Mothim has only one fan, then that is me. If Mothim has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth.
Based. It’s how I feel about a lot of mediocre Pokémon. I think they are just neat and love em. Keep some on my team so they can have a moment to shine in the elite 4.
I have a newfound appreciation for Mothim bc I recently evolved a shiny Burmy in Pokemon Go and it's one of my favorite shinies now. Shoutout to BurmySanders
Mothim should definitely be higher than the Beedril and Wormadam trio. Its Choice Band U-turn hits quite hard with little-to-none resist. U-turn is one of the best moves in the game
@@HcuTRO does Orbeetle get Recover? I am playing Pokemon Desolation, and Orbeetle has carried my team multiple times, but I didn't know it gets Recover or Body Press.
One of my favourote jokes I've heard is "It's like Game Freak saw Ledian's special defense and said 'we better cut all it's other stats in half, we don't want this thing being too strong'"
I choose to believe they gave Ariados a small horn just so they could justify giving it megahorn. Perhaps one day it will evolve into the fabled Ariatres and have a much longer horn.
"I'm an early-game bug/flying type that's part of a matched set with another bug type with a different secondary typing, and the other one is better competitively"
When Gen 1 came out, I used Butterfree with Confusion to get past Brock's gym since I had Charmander. In later generations I was thrilled to see it get Giga Drain and near perfect Sleep Powder. Always gonna love Butterfree
In some sort of freak accident, I woke up at a decent hour today. 7:00 AM. This tragedy, however, has been justified with some prime new Spidops analysis. Thank you Jim, very cool.
It really cant be understated how bad Ledian is. Alot of the low ranked bugs are so much better when you take an ingame perspective, focusing on how they scale with the early game. But not Ledian. I'd unironically argue that Ledian is even worse from an ingame perspective than it is from a competitive perspective.
@@jaide1312Bad screen setter that has access too toxic and sub screen. Honestly caterpie got more of a competitive precense then the entire lady bug line. Give the thing an evo tied to super heroes or something.
Yeah. Guys like Beedrill, Beautifly, Dustox, etc.. may seem bad but they also evolve at level 10. A Beautifuly with 90 Special Attack or a Beedrill with 80 Attack just hit really hard at level 10. A Dustox with 70 Defense and 90 Special defense and Shield Dust is legitimately a wall at level 10. It walls of multiple early game gyms in Generation 3. Ledian is a truly special case because it doesn't even have that. With 35 Attack, even the likes of Pidgey and Rattata hit harder. Generation 2 had so much stupid design. It's only held in high regard with Gen 1 and 3 because of we were kids and nostalgia.
I'd like to talk about a non fully evolved early bug. Charjabug! I know this is not a double's video, but he is so fun to use as a support mon with his unique ability and speed control. Eviolite makes him a tank, battery gives his partner a 30% sp attack boost, then you just spam thunder wave, electroweb, stringshot, struggle bug, light screen or whatever other supporting move. So so fun to use, I love Charjabug.
A few years ago I drafted Charjabug in the D tier and actually used it successfully in one match as a Zeraora switch-in and Sticky Web setter. ^^ Without the Sticky Web my defensive Arcanine would've been slower than the opposing Victini and I managed to win the match. 😁
I am truly glad to see that Jimothy has moved on from threatening pokemon for subscribers now to offering them wonderful gifts. The Horse Council merch must be selling well for such a favourable turnout.
masquerain's access to intimidate is based off of the eye patterning on its wings, which is an evolutionary advantage some real world bugs have to ward off birds (and perhaps other predators). in terms of masquerain itself, i used it at the very start of BDSP with a choice scarf and unnerve to be able to outspeed and OHKO garchomp with ice beam even through a yache berry. it was not good, but it was pretty funny.
Mothim is one of my favorite Pokémon of all time. I like the design and colors, it has a cool face with those eyebrows/antennae and it's just a cute little guy. Wormadam is also one of my favorite pokemon, but it's more because of personal experience and less because of design appreciation. I guess it's cool that mothim has both decent atk and spatk. It's also cool how it can't make use of either
Masquerain is one of my favorites of all time: It's wings are the eyes, it's body is the nose, it's smaller little wings one the bottom are arguably a mustache. The idea is that it is a bug which uses mimicry to intimidate foes, hence it's amazing ability.
QOTD: I gotta say lokix, fun design in both a casual and competitive standpoint, and despite the low stats, they are distributed well enough for the whole kit of the Pokémon to function in such a significant way Centiskorch, vikavolt, and araquanid are also runner up favorites as they really challenged the idea of bugs being flat out terrible with their designs and competitive merit without resorting to cheap tactics like ninjask (they’re still not great but there was some attempt made with them)
Dont forget Vespiqueen. It failed miserably but it tried its best to be a good defensive mon. maybe if stealth rocks didnt exist it would've been decent...
Jim says in VGC they are useless: Escavalier won a World Championship and both Vivillion and Butterfree made waves through regional events over the years
Escavalier is a great trick room pokemon in doubles, its 20 speed and overcoat make it a great counter to amoonguss and while torkoal is a serious counter you can get around that with other pokemon so its fine and it does get razor shell and drill run I think so its not like it cant possibly win the speed tie and hit it with a super effective attack. Its great with swords dance life orb and with choice band, it just depends on what Pokémon you have on the team because escavalier has 4 move slot syndrome sometimes.
@@_Rhatsody Karrablast is pretty early game in pokemon black, rout 6 I think. To be fair though its evolution requirements mean a lot of people wont ever evolve it in a playthrough
@@galvsparks6295 Yeah fair, but it is in the earlier half of the game and also the first 4 gyms go by faster then the later 4 and late game content, for me at least. Mid game but closer to being early game then late game.
I am a huge fan of Mothman he's the absolute best Pokemon, bar none. I ALWAYS have Mothra on my team when I'm playing nuzlockes and how dare you disparage Mothimum's unique contributions to my "dead pokemon" PC box
Butterfree was more known for using Baton Pass in Gen 8 Anything Goes. The infamous Butterpass Hyper Offense. Not so much as the sweeper itself. Also no Mega Rayquaza in Gen 8. Only Nat Dex
I have a soft spot for Butterfree outside of competitive use. Namely Compoundeyes Sleep Powder is very good in Nuzlockes and you're almost always guaranteed to encounter Caterpie in some version of FRLG.
One thing I appreciate a lot about bug as a type, is that despite being an objectively awful type just from a matchup perspective without even taking the low stat mons into consideration, a lot of the best moves EVER wind up being bug type, U-Turn, Quiver Dance, and Sticky Web are all incredible moves that are almost mandatory on any mons that learn them, and they have a bunch of other really solid moves as well like buffed Leech Life, Pounce, Lunge, First Impression, and Megahorn. Give a mon some of these moves and good stats or abilities and you can get some real great mons. It’s like a type with bad inherent traits but a bunch of tricks and gadgets it uses to still be good. They still really screwed them over with those stats though
Yeah, that's kind of the point of bug type. Pre-gen 6 it tended to be used more for novel (or novel at the time) abilities and roles with things like final gambit shenanigans on accelgor, the whole burmy line, unique moves for vespiquen, both of nincada's evolutions, speed boost, compound eyes status moves, tinted lens, technician, u-turn, shuckle, etc. Pre-gen 3 they were mostly just the weak mons you use for a big early game power boost and then ditch. Tail glow is also bug type, which is a +3 sp atk boost with no downsides. But no one remembers it because its volbeat's signature ability lol. Fell stinger is also crazy albeit situational. It's a low BP move that if it KOs a Mon you get +3 atk lol.
I love Venomoth, I regularly used it in lower tiers :) Tinted lens saved that mon, but with sleep powder and quiver dance to set up with it it can actually get out of hand pretty fast if you don't have a 4x resist, plus with gen 9 it can tera to gain new options :D I like tera grass for stab on Giga Drain, or fire with tera blast to be a fake iron moth
I found that Ledian's niche lies in how it consistently confuses the opponent as to why it is being used. As such Ledian's best moveset is Dizzy Punch, Dynamic Punch, Swagger, and Supersonic to channel this confusion into in-game practicality. Self-Confusion damage is honestly its best form of damage and could give a free switch to excellent teammates like Magearna and Garchomp that appreciate the disruption support to give them a free turn to boost. Adamant Iron Fist with Life Orb is used, as Dynamic Punch can actually, surprisingly, OHKO base Tyranitar after Rocks! As such teammates like Blacephalon really appreciate you luring and removing Tyranitar half of the time so it can use Shadow Ball to high heaven! Such value!
I don't think excavalier and accelgor are "early game" bugs, you get them pretty late, I would think leavanny and scolipede are the only early bugs in gen 5
The main thing about Shedinja is that it boils everything down into a very binary option - if you can hit this, you get to fight on. If you cant, I win no qiestions asked. Which is an insane proposition when it comes to the metagame because Shedinja is weak to fire, just like the steel type which happens to be one of the dominant defensive types and of course people will prepare against it. But on a purely personal note, I want to sind an entire ode to Shedinja. You see, I happened to have a team of five solid members when I had my first ORAS playthrough. So when it was time to enter the Elite Four, a vastly underleveled Shedinja happened to be my best bet as a sixth team member. Shedinja can thrive on moves like Toxic or Will-o-Wisp. Modern AI is smart enough to switch if they can damage it by any means but if you lock them down? Wonder Guard walls them to the end of time. Steven had a Mega Metagross that would nuke everything I had in a single turn but that also couldnt touch Shedinja. And so, Will-O-Wisp and Wonder Guard ended up granting me my first ever ORAS hall of fame. I survived because this insane Metagross was prevented from hitting a level 34 afterthought of a pokemon.
I have genuine respect for Mothim after it beat Maylene's Lucario in an unusually deadly Diamond nuzlocke that I did. It became a staple of the team until the route to Snowpoint where it perished and I felt genuinely bad about losing it. Signed, the only Mothim enjoyer in the known universe
When I was like 12, an older cousin gave me a level 50 Mothim, and I thought it was so cool because I still thought that 50 was a high level back then…
Mr. Jimothy, I would like to say that I for one am an Orbeetle fan. I found the little guy on the first route and to this day it's the only early bug-type to have stayed on my party from start to finish. Something about its orbular design captivated me and I'm glad you gave it some respect.
Bro lolix is the one mon that is holding UU togheter, it checks SO MANY mons that otherwise would just run UU into an insane overdrive, mons like gren, latios, hoopa, hydrapple( less then others) and serperior would just run the tier over and probably getting banned
4:33 yeah ofc ledian stands out more than one of *three* bug-flying butterfly inspired early route mons Edit: Damn and then mothim might as well be a fourth jfc
17:50 I thought you were saying "It's only weak to Fire and Sports" here, implying that being bug/steel made you a poor athlete. That gave me a sensible - if not confused - chuckle.
Legends Z-A/Gen 10 is going to introduce Mega Ledian. All 100 bst from the Mega are given to Attack and it's ability changes to Speed Boost. Boom, Ledian gets to have its revenge.
Sadly even that would be kinda mediocre. Blaziken still has better stats, better STABs, better moves... And sure, being weaker than *Mega Blaziken* isn't bad, but you're also arguably worse than stuff like Yanmega and Scolipede.
Something you didn't mention about Spidops is it also gets STAB First Impression. It's still not much, but if it comes in on something weak to Bug with lower health it can threaten to knock it out, and if the enemy switches out to avoid the First Impression, Stakeout will activate and make the move hit the new target with more power than Araquanid's Water Bubble Liquidation.
I dont know how ive been consuming Pokemon content for like 10 years now and I just now learn of the existence of Mothim Its usually gen 7 to 9 Pokemon that trip me up but a gen 4 mon? The back of my mind still refuses to accept this as a real Pokemon
i played a lot of pokemon colosseum when I was younger and one of the first mons you get in that game is ledian, and I was fascinated by the movepool of all the punches that it got, only to realize that it did effectively no damage. I love ledian, needs a mega to bring it back into the spotlight because I love this superhero bug (why is it not bug fighting even like how)
19:58 The reason Masquerain is the way it is is because he is a pokemon that normally lives in fogy areas (seen in Detective pikachu), so the point is his body is slightly blue to camuflage in the fog. But, his wings isnt- and his wings are like that because if you really squint your eyes, you can see two big angry eyes. Add that to the fog, and you might think its a huge angry creature- thats what keeps its predators from not interacting with Masquerain, and why they have Intimidate as an ability. (Also, Masquerain is names after Masquerade, so a disguise of sorts)
Dustox being underrated peeves me because it has had more competitive success than stuff like Mothim and Wormadam-Grass. Put some respect in Dustox's name!
quite a few of these bugs are pretty good in vgc, araquanid and escavalier are both excellent trick room attackers for one thing, araquanid is a calyrex-ice counter that hits like a truck, and escavalier has been great in multiple formats (it even won worlds once). also vivillon has unique utility with rage powder, tailwind and friend guard which is a pretty powerful combo, in lower power level formats it's pretty nice and it's been used in gen 9
I had the illustrated guide book for dp and I thought mothim looked so cool in the pokedex that I got disappointed when I could only find female burmy on honey trees. I remember finally getting a male and being so happy haha
6:40 , personally, i like Mothim mainly because i don't play competitive and only play with bug types, and while not the best bug in D/P, it had high Sp Attack (for a bug) and it was a useful member of my party. it outranked Vespiquen because of the higher attack, greater speed and access to quiver dance. but the best ones in gen 4 was Trash Wormadam and Drapion by far. outside it's debute game, it's outclassed by Masquerain or any other special attacker.
Shout out to kricketune for being the only reason cynthia was easy for me in bdsp. I got past the rest of her team without a ton of trouble, then sent out kricketune and clicked perish song into her garchomp. And i had enough pokemon clinging onto life in the back so that the garchomp died before it finished one-shotting them all
Masquerain has some cool moves. I wish Jimothy would have said "This boy has some toys to play with". I feel if i said that, it would come off weird but if Jimothy said that, it would be endearing
Masquerain is a "Masquerade" and "rain" bug type pokemon that uses the MASK from it's Masquerade parties as a way to bring a bug's mimicry into its design
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Horse Council Merch available until end of December
Lokix mentioned!! 🗣🗣🗣
Suggestion: Rank every cross-gen evolution (except eeveelutions and regional evolutions who can have their own video), from Crobat to Scizor to Weavile to Togekiss to Ursaluna to Annihilape to Kingambit to Archaludon to Dudunsparce
They're not bugs, they're features.
Features of the early game.
Oh you.
TELL ME LIES TELL ME SWEET LITTLE LIES
Feature-type
*creatures
I can't believe jimothy didn't include the fully evolved pokemon male combee
My thoughts exactly
Can male Combee use eviolite? Or does it only works on female Combee?
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Yes
@@heavyrain5949 DOES THAT MEAN A MALE COMBEE EVOLUTION IS COMING GEN 10? 😱
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No lol eviolite is species dependent as a whole.
You might put Ledian at the beginning of the video and say that he is the worst of the early-game bug-type Pokemon, but I believe that as the early bird gets the worm, Ledian has the right to graduate from this status and become the worst early game bird
Unfortunately birds are all fake government spies created by a secret part of the horse council. But you didn't hear that from me
At 0:46 jim says that bug pokemon are "underdogs", therefore ledian is also the worst dog pokemon
This thread is insane, someone should inform the horse council
Since this comment horsing around as well, it also gets worse horse Pokémon
I'm not sure Ledian is actually worse than Pidgeot though
On Shedinja, it infamously DIDN'T learn Swords Dance, but has always had a way to trick Swords Dance onto it by evolving Nincada at the precise level that Ninjask learns swords dance, and teaching Ninjask swords dance as it evolves. They eventually gave Shedinja swords dance because so many sets transfered from earlier gens had tricked swords dance on in this way.
My favorite early-game bug is Arceus-Bug. He was there, before the “game” even existed.
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I get it, i aint laughing but i get it
KRIKETUNE FANS LET ME HEAR YOU MAKE SOME NOISEEEE DELELELELEWHOOOOPPPPPP
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The Ave Maria cover is so good
I've found a use for it in the early game at least, it can learn cut and rock smash, and can learn sing, so it makes catching Ralts in Platinum a lot easier
@@jordanmurray410 kriketune has ALWAYS been that girl
@@jordanmurray410false swipe has its uses too
12:06 Fun fact about Insomnia on Spidops- the IRL spider they're based on, the ogre-faced spider, has better vision than even cats and owls thanks to a special membrane in their big ol' eyes.
However, in daylight, the membrane BURNS UP, so they have to regrow a new one every night.
One must imagine Sisyphus as a spider
What if they just stay inside do they get more membranes that night? Imagine the vision with hundreds of membranes. It would be insanity.
@@guilhermedalcin1136sounds more like Prometheus
@@Petsinwinter2is that the eagle liver guy
@@usernametaken017Yes, that is him
my favorite early game bug type is magcargo
It's a snail, so it's gotta be bug
Magcargo is a remarkable pokemon, being both a bug and a horse.
Well it is a snail, and so is Shelmet who’s a bug type
Great choice! My favorite early game bug type is stantler
His access to High BugPower has landed him yet another prestigious position unusual to pokemon of the rock or fire types
I am a bit interested in what defines an "early-game bug" to you, Jimothy, because I'll be honest, Karrablast and Shelmet are NOT early-game Pokemon in their debut generation. Karrablast is found after the fifth gym and Shelmet after the seventh. You can catch Dwebble way earlier than that, and yet Crustle isn't in this video.
Um actually, you can catch Karrablast before completing the 5th gym ☝️🤓
Agreed. Larvesta is available before Shelmet in BW since you can Surf to get its egg. Pineco and Heracross are available relatively early in the Johto games with use of Headbutt, and you can obtain even more bugs like Venonat, Scyther, and Pinsir via the Bug Catching contest. I could keep going, but really I think it's probably just an oversight from a guy who probably doesnt play the base games extensively
@@becausesakamoto5938 um actually Leavanny was on the list ☝️🤓
@@becausesakamoto5938Leavanny is in the video at 14:16.
@GeneralSecura you know what I didn't even notice, that's surprising considering Leavanny is one of my favorite bug types
17:23 is genuinely the best description of Wormadam Trash I've ever heard (not that anyone talks about it) "Are people throwing steel in the trash?" Is the question we've all been waiting far too long to start asking
Early Birds get the worm, but early bugs get Swarm
"Early-Game Bug" definitely doesn't apply to most of these, Pokémon like Escavalier and Accelgor, who are found around the time you beat the fifth gym in the game they first appeared in, have nothing in common with stuff like Beedrill and Ledian other than the Bug type
Dustox isn't great in competitive, but it is quite strong in nuzlockes, at least. It learns stalling moves like protect and moonlight very early by level up even in its debut generation, and is one of a short list of pokemon to learn toxic by level up in gen 4. Combine that with passable defensive stats for the early game and you have a great early game carry, especially in gen 3.
I'd argue dustox could be ranked higher as it shows up and is definitely usable in PU/ZU in some gens.
Ledian, krikitune and beautifly have been untiered garbage as far as I know.
Seriously it caried hard in my BDSP nuzlocke
Yes ppl sleep on dustox
Dustox completely stomps brawly, and its high sp def makes it usable vs watson as well! Always happy to have a dustox in early game
Lot of different "formats" for different Pokemon to be successful within. Dustox can even hold up in some of the "enhanced" romhack nuzlockes thanks to doubles/pivoting/utility.
I would reckon this is truly a Wormadam Wednesday to remember
It appears Jimothy is improving and instead offering gifts to the weak and defenseless Pokémon. Will this streak continue or are we doomed to see the beloved Pokémon Stufful come under threat? Only time will tell.
6:36
If Mothim has a million fans, then I am one of them.
If Mothim has ten fans, then I am one of them.
If Mothim has only one fan, then that is me.
If Mothim has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth.
Fun fact: in gen 8/9 they removed heal order from Vespiquen, for whatever reason
fun fact fun fact: this makes heal order the best illegal recover move because it’s the only one that wasn’t targeted by the hp recovery move pp nerf
@@bounce9568 You mean to tell me Heal Order is still in the game and yet has been removed from Vespiqueen's movepool?
Idk how early I’d consider some of these guys. Especially Yanma because you get it all the way on route 35 in the Jotho games.
I am a proud Mothim fan. I chanced upon him in my first Pearl playthrough and though he did nothing I like his visual design
Wormadam >>
Based. It’s how I feel about a lot of mediocre Pokémon. I think they are just neat and love em. Keep some on my team so they can have a moment to shine in the elite 4.
@@mypsizllez This is why nuzlockes are so cool
I have a newfound appreciation for Mothim bc I recently evolved a shiny Burmy in Pokemon Go and it's one of my favorite shinies now. Shoutout to BurmySanders
Mothim should definitely be higher than the Beedril and Wormadam trio. Its Choice Band U-turn hits quite hard with little-to-none resist. U-turn is one of the best moves in the game
14:13 Orbeetle fan right here. Dude lives super effective hits in most cases. Put respect on my boy's name.
Love Orbeetle. Fantastic pokemon for in-game use.
Bro got me through the Gen 8 early game first playthrough. U.F.O was the GOAT.
All gen 8 I tried to force g max orbeetle in vgc
Recover, cosmic power, body press & Stored power. Let him cook
@@HcuTRO does Orbeetle get Recover? I am playing Pokemon Desolation, and Orbeetle has carried my team multiple times, but I didn't know it gets Recover or Body Press.
One of my favourote jokes I've heard is "It's like Game Freak saw Ledian's special defense and said 'we better cut all it's other stats in half, we don't want this thing being too strong'"
Imagine if Jimothy Cool from TH-cam was a bug type Pokémon.
Hes be big/fire because he drops bangers every week. Probably a horsefly. Maybe ground/bug with levitate
bug/flying with swarm ability
That would be insane, folks.
I choose to believe they gave Ariados a small horn just so they could justify giving it megahorn. Perhaps one day it will evolve into the fabled Ariatres and have a much longer horn.
"I'm an early-game bug/flying type that's part of a matched set with another bug type with a different secondary typing, and the other one is better competitively"
When Gen 1 came out, I used Butterfree with Confusion to get past Brock's gym since I had Charmander. In later generations I was thrilled to see it get Giga Drain and near perfect Sleep Powder. Always gonna love Butterfree
In some sort of freak accident, I woke up at a decent hour today. 7:00 AM.
This tragedy, however, has been justified with some prime new Spidops analysis. Thank you Jim, very cool.
Early-game Bug types are some of the most tragic Pokemon in the entire series.
of course not every Pokemon is supposed to be amazing
of course not every Pokemon is supposed to be amazing
Especially those that you encounter near the beginning of the game
Ice types: 💀
But still many of these early game bugs feel pathetic
It really cant be understated how bad Ledian is.
Alot of the low ranked bugs are so much better when you take an ingame perspective, focusing on how they scale with the early game.
But not Ledian. I'd unironically argue that Ledian is even worse from an ingame perspective than it is from a competitive perspective.
It can use it's underwhelming special attack to throw out underpowered ice and thunder punches! And uhhh, baton pass agility? I got nothing.
@@jaide1312Bad screen setter that has access too toxic and sub screen.
Honestly caterpie got more of a competitive precense then the entire lady bug line.
Give the thing an evo tied to super heroes or something.
Yeah. Guys like Beedrill, Beautifly, Dustox, etc.. may seem bad but they also evolve at level 10. A Beautifuly with 90 Special Attack or a Beedrill with 80 Attack just hit really hard at level 10. A Dustox with 70 Defense and 90 Special defense and Shield Dust is legitimately a wall at level 10. It walls of multiple early game gyms in Generation 3.
Ledian is a truly special case because it doesn't even have that. With 35 Attack, even the likes of Pidgey and Rattata hit harder.
Generation 2 had so much stupid design. It's only held in high regard with Gen 1 and 3 because of we were kids and nostalgia.
@@afsdfsadhasfh Heartgold and Soulsilver redeemed the games/gen for me. It's in contention for my third favourite pokemon game.
18BP is such a random number too with Comet Punch 😂
18:59 Sunny Day to make Rain with priority 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
Bro is NOT Verlisify
19:52 it’s based off the phenomenon where animals, mostly bugs, develope fake eye patterns.
Ledian may be bad in competitive battles but he is very good at being named Crap Gorps, a feat no other Pokémon can claim
Holy crap Dogs In Love 2 mention
Jimothy, I want there to be a Gen 9 Bug Only Tournament. If you help me host it, I will award the winner $250.
-Bug Council Agent (Horse Council Ally)
whoa
mothim is so forgettable as an early game bug that they forgot to even put it in the early game
@@migu6528 it's an evolution of Burmy, which is available prior to the second gym in its native region of Sinnoh
Imagine if Dark Magician from Yu-Gi-Oh was a bug type Pokémon.
I'd like to talk about a non fully evolved early bug. Charjabug! I know this is not a double's video, but he is so fun to use as a support mon with his unique ability and speed control. Eviolite makes him a tank, battery gives his partner a 30% sp attack boost, then you just spam thunder wave, electroweb, stringshot, struggle bug, light screen or whatever other supporting move. So so fun to use, I love Charjabug.
Charjabug is awesome! Id love to see more usage of such a wonderful bug.
A few years ago I drafted Charjabug in the D tier and actually used it successfully in one match as a Zeraora switch-in and Sticky Web setter. ^^
Without the Sticky Web my defensive Arcanine would've been slower than the opposing Victini and I managed to win the match. 😁
Pokemon go reference
I am truly glad to see that Jimothy has moved on from threatening pokemon for subscribers now to offering them wonderful gifts.
The Horse Council merch must be selling well for such a favourable turnout.
Bethesda is gonna be happy with this video
Mothim is a pro at what it does best. Aggroing you in Arceus and forcing you to run out of aggro range when you were trying to fast travel.
masquerain's access to intimidate is based off of the eye patterning on its wings, which is an evolutionary advantage some real world bugs have to ward off birds (and perhaps other predators). in terms of masquerain itself, i used it at the very start of BDSP with a choice scarf and unnerve to be able to outspeed and OHKO garchomp with ice beam even through a yache berry. it was not good, but it was pretty funny.
Mothim Mondays on the DPP OU ladder, let's make it happen.
Parasect was a staple of my gen 5 team because dry skin was an amazing defensive ability in rain.
Mothim is one of my favorite Pokémon of all time. I like the design and colors, it has a cool face with those eyebrows/antennae and it's just a cute little guy. Wormadam is also one of my favorite pokemon, but it's more because of personal experience and less because of design appreciation.
I guess it's cool that mothim has both decent atk and spatk. It's also cool how it can't make use of either
Masquerain is one of my favorites of all time:
It's wings are the eyes, it's body is the nose, it's smaller little wings one the bottom are arguably a mustache. The idea is that it is a bug which uses mimicry to intimidate foes, hence it's amazing ability.
QOTD: I gotta say lokix, fun design in both a casual and competitive standpoint, and despite the low stats, they are distributed well enough for the whole kit of the Pokémon to function in such a significant way
Centiskorch, vikavolt, and araquanid are also runner up favorites as they really challenged the idea of bugs being flat out terrible with their designs and competitive merit without resorting to cheap tactics like ninjask (they’re still not great but there was some attempt made with them)
Dont forget Vespiqueen. It failed miserably but it tried its best to be a good defensive mon. maybe if stealth rocks didnt exist it would've been decent...
I used to wish Pokemon was real. Then I found out Scolipede is over 30 feet long. Now I'm not so sure
Jim says in VGC they are useless: Escavalier won a World Championship and both Vivillion and Butterfree made waves through regional events over the years
Escavalier is a great trick room pokemon in doubles, its 20 speed and overcoat make it a great counter to amoonguss and while torkoal is a serious counter you can get around that with other pokemon so its fine and it does get razor shell and drill run I think so its not like it cant possibly win the speed tie and hit it with a super effective attack. Its great with swords dance life orb and with choice band, it just depends on what Pokémon you have on the team because escavalier has 4 move slot syndrome sometimes.
Escavakier is NOT an early game bug. Sewaddle and vinipede are from 5th gen
@@_Rhatsody Karrablast is pretty early game in pokemon black, rout 6 I think. To be fair though its evolution requirements mean a lot of people wont ever evolve it in a playthrough
@@Exquailibur route 6 is quite literally 4 badges into the game, that's NOT early game
@@galvsparks6295 Yeah fair, but it is in the earlier half of the game and also the first 4 gyms go by faster then the later 4 and late game content, for me at least.
Mid game but closer to being early game then late game.
Reoccuring theme of "It can learn u-turn, which is good, because then it doesn't have to fight anymore"
You clearly haven’t been on the internet long enough to know that Kricketune and Orbeetle are fan favorites
I am a huge fan of Mothman he's the absolute best Pokemon, bar none. I ALWAYS have Mothra on my team when I'm playing nuzlockes and how dare you disparage Mothimum's unique contributions to my "dead pokemon" PC box
Comet Punch is not a signature move for Ledian, it's been in Hitmonchan's moveset since Gen 1
Orbeetle deserves a bit of respect he can set sticky web and screens. He is also highly intelligent due to his large brain
Butterfree was more known for using Baton Pass in Gen 8 Anything Goes. The infamous Butterpass Hyper Offense. Not so much as the sweeper itself. Also no Mega Rayquaza in Gen 8. Only Nat Dex
I have a soft spot for Butterfree outside of competitive use. Namely Compoundeyes Sleep Powder is very good in Nuzlockes and you're almost always guaranteed to encounter Caterpie in some version of FRLG.
One thing I appreciate a lot about bug as a type, is that despite being an objectively awful type just from a matchup perspective without even taking the low stat mons into consideration, a lot of the best moves EVER wind up being bug type, U-Turn, Quiver Dance, and Sticky Web are all incredible moves that are almost mandatory on any mons that learn them, and they have a bunch of other really solid moves as well like buffed Leech Life, Pounce, Lunge, First Impression, and Megahorn. Give a mon some of these moves and good stats or abilities and you can get some real great mons. It’s like a type with bad inherent traits but a bunch of tricks and gadgets it uses to still be good. They still really screwed them over with those stats though
Yeah, that's kind of the point of bug type. Pre-gen 6 it tended to be used more for novel (or novel at the time) abilities and roles with things like final gambit shenanigans on accelgor, the whole burmy line, unique moves for vespiquen, both of nincada's evolutions, speed boost, compound eyes status moves, tinted lens, technician, u-turn, shuckle, etc. Pre-gen 3 they were mostly just the weak mons you use for a big early game power boost and then ditch.
Tail glow is also bug type, which is a +3 sp atk boost with no downsides. But no one remembers it because its volbeat's signature ability lol. Fell stinger is also crazy albeit situational. It's a low BP move that if it KOs a Mon you get +3 atk lol.
@@jaernihiltheus7817 Right forgot Tail Glow and Fell Stinger. A whole third of Tail Glow users are bug type!
40:43 MY BOY MADE IT 😭
I’M SO PROUD
I love Venomoth, I regularly used it in lower tiers :)
Tinted lens saved that mon, but with sleep powder and quiver dance to set up with it it can actually get out of hand pretty fast if you don't have a 4x resist, plus with gen 9 it can tera to gain new options :D
I like tera grass for stab on Giga Drain, or fire with tera blast to be a fake iron moth
Too bad it's apparently not considered an early game bug type by mr cool :(
I acknowledge Mothim's existence
I found that Ledian's niche lies in how it consistently confuses the opponent as to why it is being used.
As such Ledian's best moveset is Dizzy Punch, Dynamic Punch, Swagger, and Supersonic to channel this confusion into in-game practicality. Self-Confusion damage is honestly its best form of damage and could give a free switch to excellent teammates like Magearna and Garchomp that appreciate the disruption support to give them a free turn to boost. Adamant Iron Fist with Life Orb is used, as Dynamic Punch can actually, surprisingly, OHKO base Tyranitar after Rocks! As such teammates like Blacephalon really appreciate you luring and removing Tyranitar half of the time so it can use Shadow Ball to high heaven! Such value!
Mothim is a Pokemon. Thank you, Mothim.
This video is bugging the horse council. Don't let them take it down.
Scolipede is really an agent of the Horse Council this video is all part of their plan
I don't think excavalier and accelgor are "early game" bugs, you get them pretty late, I would think leavanny and scolipede are the only early bugs in gen 5
I second this, they’re pretty late in the game
The main thing about Shedinja is that it boils everything down into a very binary option - if you can hit this, you get to fight on. If you cant, I win no qiestions asked.
Which is an insane proposition when it comes to the metagame because Shedinja is weak to fire, just like the steel type which happens to be one of the dominant defensive types and of course people will prepare against it.
But on a purely personal note, I want to sind an entire ode to Shedinja.
You see, I happened to have a team of five solid members when I had my first ORAS playthrough. So when it was time to enter the Elite Four, a vastly underleveled Shedinja happened to be my best bet as a sixth team member.
Shedinja can thrive on moves like Toxic or Will-o-Wisp. Modern AI is smart enough to switch if they can damage it by any means but if you lock them down? Wonder Guard walls them to the end of time.
Steven had a Mega Metagross that would nuke everything I had in a single turn but that also couldnt touch Shedinja. And so, Will-O-Wisp and Wonder Guard ended up granting me my first ever ORAS hall of fame. I survived because this insane Metagross was prevented from hitting a level 34 afterthought of a pokemon.
I hereby acknowledge the pokemon Mothims’s existence, and wish it a happy Mothim Monday
25:09 unfortunately the evolution method is so complicated and requires 2 sets of hardware that getting ahold of it early game is extremely hard.
I have genuine respect for Mothim after it beat Maylene's Lucario in an unusually deadly Diamond nuzlocke that I did. It became a staple of the team until the route to Snowpoint where it perished and I felt genuinely bad about losing it. Signed, the only Mothim enjoyer in the known universe
When I was like 12, an older cousin gave me a level 50 Mothim, and I thought it was so cool because I still thought that 50 was a high level back then…
In its debut generation, heracross is found earlier than half of the pokemon you listed.
even in HGSS it's found in the same place
Mr. Jimothy, I would like to say that I for one am an Orbeetle fan. I found the little guy on the first route and to this day it's the only early bug-type to have stayed on my party from start to finish. Something about its orbular design captivated me and I'm glad you gave it some respect.
Bro lolix is the one mon that is holding UU togheter, it checks SO MANY mons that otherwise would just run UU into an insane overdrive, mons like gren, latios, hoopa, hydrapple( less then others) and serperior would just run the tier over and probably getting banned
Ninjask being a problem < ninjask having the longest section
4:33 yeah ofc ledian stands out more than one of *three* bug-flying butterfly inspired early route mons
Edit: Damn and then mothim might as well be a fourth jfc
28:35 This guy hates talking about Ninjask so much that there's 8 cuts in between a single sentence 😂
17:50 I thought you were saying "It's only weak to Fire and Sports" here, implying that being bug/steel made you a poor athlete. That gave me a sensible - if not confused - chuckle.
The main counterplay against Scizor in Gen 4 OU is to send in LeBron James, who hits it for x15 damage
Mothim is a Pokémon that exists and we will not forget that Mothim does. I highly appreciate it for existing.
Vespiquen should have been retconned to bug/fairy due to its honey association in Gen 6
I don't even need to watch the video to know what will be said about Mothim is going to be 100% true.
this is so sad
I know you're not looking at the VGC format, but Escavalier is one of the few pokemon who have a World Championship to it's name!
I think you underestimate the mind games you can play with Kricketune, its iconic cry can mess with opponents and throw them off their game!
Jim has stopped tormenting pokemon with threats 🙏
Legends Z-A/Gen 10 is going to introduce Mega Ledian. All 100 bst from the Mega are given to Attack and it's ability changes to Speed Boost. Boom, Ledian gets to have its revenge.
Sadly even that would be kinda mediocre. Blaziken still has better stats, better STABs, better moves...
And sure, being weaker than *Mega Blaziken* isn't bad, but you're also arguably worse than stuff like Yanmega and Scolipede.
Something you didn't mention about Spidops is it also gets STAB First Impression. It's still not much, but if it comes in on something weak to Bug with lower health it can threaten to knock it out, and if the enemy switches out to avoid the First Impression, Stakeout will activate and make the move hit the new target with more power than Araquanid's Water Bubble Liquidation.
I dont know how ive been consuming Pokemon content for like 10 years now and I just now learn of the existence of Mothim
Its usually gen 7 to 9 Pokemon that trip me up but a gen 4 mon? The back of my mind still refuses to accept this as a real Pokemon
i played a lot of pokemon colosseum when I was younger and one of the first mons you get in that game is ledian, and I was fascinated by the movepool of all the punches that it got, only to realize that it did effectively no damage. I love ledian, needs a mega to bring it back into the spotlight because I love this superhero bug (why is it not bug fighting even like how)
Mothim is unironically the favourite pokemon of an old friend of mine. He's truly one of a kind
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The reason Masquerain is the way it is is because he is a pokemon that normally lives in fogy areas (seen in Detective pikachu), so the point is his body is slightly blue to camuflage in the fog. But, his wings isnt- and his wings are like that because if you really squint your eyes, you can see two big angry eyes. Add that to the fog, and you might think its a huge angry creature- thats what keeps its predators from not interacting with Masquerain, and why they have Intimidate as an ability. (Also, Masquerain is names after Masquerade, so a disguise of sorts)
Dustox being underrated peeves me because it has had more competitive success than stuff like Mothim and Wormadam-Grass. Put some respect in Dustox's name!
Imagine if Psy from Gangnam Style was a bug type Pokémon.
Please elaborate...
quite a few of these bugs are pretty good in vgc, araquanid and escavalier are both excellent trick room attackers for one thing, araquanid is a calyrex-ice counter that hits like a truck, and escavalier has been great in multiple formats (it even won worlds once). also vivillon has unique utility with rage powder, tailwind and friend guard which is a pretty powerful combo, in lower power level formats it's pretty nice and it's been used in gen 9
I had the illustrated guide book for dp and I thought mothim looked so cool in the pokedex that I got disappointed when I could only find female burmy on honey trees. I remember finally getting a male and being so happy haha
6:40 , personally, i like Mothim mainly because i don't play competitive and only play with bug types, and while not the best bug in D/P, it had high Sp Attack (for a bug) and it was a useful member of my party. it outranked Vespiquen because of the higher attack, greater speed and access to quiver dance. but the best ones in gen 4 was Trash Wormadam and Drapion by far.
outside it's debute game, it's outclassed by Masquerain or any other special attacker.
Shout out to kricketune for being the only reason cynthia was easy for me in bdsp. I got past the rest of her team without a ton of trouble, then sent out kricketune and clicked perish song into her garchomp. And i had enough pokemon clinging onto life in the back so that the garchomp died before it finished one-shotting them all
Masquerain has some cool moves. I wish Jimothy would have said "This boy has some toys to play with". I feel if i said that, it would come off weird but if Jimothy said that, it would be endearing
Spidops my goat learns Pain Split and I just learned that recently. This changes everything
Masquerain is a "Masquerade" and "rain" bug type pokemon that uses the MASK from it's Masquerade parties as a way to bring a bug's mimicry into its design
I actually had to google mothim to see if he was real because i genuinely have no memory of him
Imagine if Lickitung from Pokémon was a bug type Pokémon.
Today I learned Mothim is a pokemon what the actual hell. And I still don't recall what it even evolves from
It evolves from male Burmy!
I'm a ledian fan, I'll always remember the rejuv fangame for making it usable (after like 50+ hours of gameplay but still)
Petition to change the channel name to Jimothim Cool in honor of the coolest pokemon of all time