I can express myself that I was apart of this organization and I know the true god would want me to show and uphold the utmost respect for these people even love we must “pray for our enemies” please my friend do not give up faith in god and his son we cannot attain life any other way we love you stay strong and keep searching for truth no offence this guy is atheist and I respect him for his beliefs but he cannot express himself on certain on certain things properly be used he doesn’t share this background
The governing body are the modern day apostles, the apostles are all anointed and are taking direction from heaven now. There are more anointed than what is on the panel but there are some who don’t understand what to do at a memorial and that is why they say don’t eat and drink (unless you are of the anointed (much like the apostles) you have your facts wrong and misleading many
@@DarkSideOfMyFart1993 the governing body are not the modern day apostles they are not taking direction from heaven and the fact that they have a 100% failure rate in their prophecies and the fact that so many of their teachings have changed over and over goes to show they are not getting directed from heaven and it proves that God is not using them as His channel of communication . More like they are directed by satan
@@ericbulman1752 I’m sad that you feel that way my friend honestly I am, but can I just point out that the governing body hasn’t prophesied on a single occasion, like I said, apostles not prophets. Jehovahs witnesses base our beliefs entirely on the bible we are known for our knowledge in the bible, this is because you shouldn’t rely on your own understanding but in fact the word of god. So for you to say “failure in prophecies” would be your failure in prophecies if you was to base your belief on that of gods word. “It says in the bible do not call another man father yet you do anyway, the bible says do not ink your skin yet you do, the bible says oppose from spell binders spiritual mediums and fortune tellers yet you do not the bible says “a life for a life” yet you go to war and kill people and have an abortions freely, the bible says do not lie cheat and steal yet you do. “By my fruits you will recognise….” We as Jehovah’s Witnesses do not do these things we follow gods command and have nothing but love for the world, yet they who do wickedness stands and says “you take direction from Satan” I think you should maybe look into your religion a little deeper before throwing accusations to me, the world is lying in the power of the wicked one, yet, I bet you vote for a leader, do you do the lottery and chase financial gain, do you pledge allegiance to the flag and sing a national anthem or have any idols such as a cross.. all things of course the bible says you shouldn’t do.
Ha ha ha, they are a joke and they revel in how they have brainwashed their followers into believing everything that they preach. They are a bunch of sick mentally unbalanced autocratic megalomaniacs, which falls into psychiatric medical classifications as well as criminal. .
I never realised the extent of how ridiculous the Memorial was until just now. Why on Earth did we have to pass it around?! Why was that so important if we weren't partaking? It's almost as if we had to make a show of rejecting Christ
I often think back to my time as a JW and realize how ridiculous it all was 😂 and not only did I accept it, I wholeheartedly believed in it! What was going through my head? Madness! 😵💫
"Jehovah is the greatest communicator in the universe." If this were true, we would not have 150 years of Watchtower publications attempting to explain what the Bible "REALLY" teaches, only for most of those publications to be thrown out as false doctrine ('old light') by the very same Watchtower corporation that produced them.
They are part of the new world order, but not in the way they believe they are.. I wish they would wake up before its to late for them. C.T. RUSSEL was no good at all. The documents that show this is definitely out there, BUT because of the mind control cult, witnesses read no there publications unless published by them!
You should look in the scrolls. ( Bible) It’s in Matthew 24:36. Day or hour no one know , His day of coming.”! The false prophets speak with presumptuousness, Jeremiah 50: 31. Said I’m against you O presumptuousness. Yes this men from New York Are false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:22.
@Sedgey Rirrf Yes, this “about having the mind of god” thing.... You’re happy to dash babies heads against rocks are you, to instigate rape against women, condone slavery, and the beating of them, the holding back of little girls for soldiers after their families have been murdered in front of them, and all they know destroyed? To destroy anyone that isn’t praising you or has “forgotten” you, despite the fact that billions are born into a different culture and know completely different god’s, and blame people for being the way you created them? To send your worse enemy against people, but blame them for the results of that? To blame every single human for the first couple you made from then on? That’s all good by you, is it? Fair? “I recommend that you stick with the Scriptures” you say? I did, all of it, instead of just cherry picking the ‘nice bits’, and it lead me to atheism.
Send us your cash so we can go to heaven and leave to Rank and File suckers to it....oh I mean live in luxury and wealth...until we're sued for Paedophile cover ups.....oh crap, shouldn't have said that....can we edit this out....no......BOLLOCKS.
@@maryannlockwood7806 yeah and chosen though they still celebrated Christmas, worshipped Jesus and used the cross, according to their belief that those are all "false worship"
Excuse me but Stephen Lett is an absolute model of a man. And I looked up the definition of the word model just to be sure... “fashion or shape (a three dimensional figure or object) in a malleable material such as clay or wax.”
Thanks for your reply. May be this will help. Massiah was anointed but I don't remember him boasting about himself. The reason I asked the question is to test the spirit. Massiah said if you now me you now him who sent me. Obviously he speaking about his Father my Father. If you now who massiah represented in his actions and words and scripture say there is no darkness in the Father and can not lie death is his enemy. Then all the darkness lies and killing is who in the old writings or testament, yahweh right. Yet massiah never referred to his Heavenly Father other than Father as we should also. I'm not going to go into detail at this stage unless o anointed one your ears and eyes are open.
I was contacted by my former JW teacher inviting me to their memorial services. For a brief moment, I was almost sucked in, but as the day got closer I began to feel in my spirit that I shouldn't and I didn't. I'm glad I listened. It can be so hard to break away from these people and I'm still trying to let go of a lot of their silly teachings. I know many have became agnostic or atheist after their experience with JWs. I haven't, I still believe in the God of the Bible, I just don't believe in the JWs' version.
You would do well to stick with Christ my friend. NOWHERE in the bible does it say that we are to join ANY "religious cult"! The bible says "be ye holy".. come out from among the world. "Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and HIS righteousness and ALL THESE THINGS shall be ADDED UNTO YOU". remember.. Jesus said, "I AM the WAY.. the TRUTH and the the LIFE"
@@justinhemion6279 The bible is pretty bad, we dont have any concrete evidence jesus as told in the bible even existed, and we genuinely cant prove if he even said anything the bible claims, no one needs religion anymore, its awful.
@@Callumxfisher And it's awfully convenient that there's no tangible proof of being "anointed." Is it narcissistic to think of yourself as that special?
I was taught as a JW kid that all the anointed ones were chosen basically before I was born and that the ones still on earth were just waiting to go to heaven. I find it very interesting that, that number has roughly doubled in the last 25ish years.
They used to teach anyone prior to 1935 was anointed and anyone baptized after 1935 was of the great crowd. All of them were baptized after 1935. Soooooooo 🤷🏽♂️ lol
I asked a old lady professing to be 1 of 144,000 how she knew when she came to our house for dinner. My 10 year old brain processed her answer as 'because i said so and how dare you ask'. At the next meeting me and my mum were pulled in back where the elders put me in my place. When your a kid you know something is off put can't quite put it togather yet.
I had an uncle , bless him..who was so sweet and gentle and soft spoken..He was very much into being a good witness. One day , he partook at the Memorial. Poor man was shamed and looked down upon and his family was so embarrassed. The congregation and governing body really hurt him. I totally forgot about it until I watched this. I'm so glad to be free ..I was Df'd back in 89. Thank you for your loving service to others Lloyd. 🙏💖
He sounded like a really great guy!! 💔🙏🏻 I'm so sorry he was hurt like that. I remember the 1st time I saw someone partake I was about 20, and it was a very old man in the new congregation I had moved to. Even as a fully indoctrinated JW, it shook me up. I had never seen anyone partake. And I kinda had this moment I believe started my wake up process...of...who does he think he is? Lol I kinda felt like a jealousy to see myself and everyone pass it on and then it got to him and he ate and drank and I thought well why can't I?? I'm not special enough? It's all really messed up.
Same exact thing happened to my dad. I heard the murmuring from the congregation even though I was his son. They are not shy about shaming someone, just not to the persons face.
I've been disfellowshipped for nineteen years, so it's been awhile since I've seen a talk or anything. Watching Lett felt like a parody of what I remember from my JW life.
Greatest communicator in the universe line cracked me up. Leaves a book that can be interpretated thousands of different ways to the extent of causing wars... Great communicator
I remember a sister started to partake in emblems, and she only came to memorial. The brother wrestled her for the wine because she was trying to partake. So if the spirit identifies her as part of the 144,000 then why is this brother wrestling with her!? Yes this whole ordeal went down at memorial!!! 😂
Lol that's funny. One of my best friends mom would only come to the memorial and would partake and people were kind of like umm okkk.. she was a nice lady but was terrified of us using computers or buying used hockey equipment because it could bring demons. In the winter a local pond would freeze over and she refused to let us ice skate on it until she walked out on it. She must've weighed 350 pounds so i guess she figured if it broke through and she drowned she'd instantly be im heaven anyway.
It's always the batshit crazy people who claim to be anointed now. I remember this one sister when I was a kid. Never went to a single meeting except the memorial. Partook emblems. 100 hrs a month reported on service. Drew her eyebrows in these high arches so that she always looked cray.
@@herbiehopkins I think the fact that it's second hand equipment was the issue here. It is/was a common superstition among witnesses to think that 2nd hand stuff could contain demons. I'm not aware if The Watchtower ever published anything to cause this.
What about Raymond Franz? He was a member of the Governing Body, and he got disfellowshipped shortly after leaving the organization, soooooooooo, what happened? Did "God" mess up when he picked him, or something?
From what I've read in his book 'Crisis of Conscience' so far, events that happened throughout his life eventually led him to leave, even though he was anointed. Interesting read!
When I was a witness I had a Bible study with a younger than 50 years old female. She 100 percent KNEW for certain she was going to heaven. She had me convinced. My husband at the time was an elder. He instructed me to tell her she was mistaken. That didn't fly. She kept insisting. She had been attending meetings regularly. The elders finally had a meeting with her and told her there was No Way she was anointed. The next memorial my Bible study partook of the emblems. She said that they were wrong to doubt her. It was a big mess. I really believe that was a HUGE part of what got me doubting the entire religion.
If there was an elder's meeting with her and she was told that she could not be an anointed, then there is no doubt that she wasn't. She was mistaken. And if she partook of the emblems not being an anointed, it is her responsibility for doing it. If others get confused or got in doubt, they should have spoken with elders to clear the doubts or confusion. If you let doubts remain and let them undermine you, you should strengthen your spirituality.
@@pedrogomesgomes Elders telling her she isn't anointed isn't proof of anything. I hope you were being sarcastic, because there is NO SUCH THING as people going to heaven.
@@humbertobaez2104 Hi Humberto, if you don't believe the Bible, then there is nothing. Otherwise please check what apostle Paul said to the anointed in 1 Thessalonians 4:16+17. Moreover, if there is no such thing as heaven, from where is Jesus coming from?
It’s because they know that’s some people’s pineal gland is woke but they are under brainwashing. So the governing body is fighting a war against peoples third eye, to keep it as delusioned as possible so that they do not catch onto their leaders fight for money. It’s literally a predators slow dance with the victim in tricking around their manifesting powers. On their online library recently they have already begun introducing the universe teaching which is all about manifesting and third eye power. So they realizing that many people’s third eye is waking up and they are maneuvering into a new teaching to continue their business.
Best lesson my therapist gave me : A crazy person doesn’t think they’re crazy. Cult members don’t believe they’re cult members. Anointed people JUST KNOW they’re anointed.
I also love the fact that the "greatest communicator in the universe" needs the help of "New Light" in order to be properly understood... you'd think he would have been understood correctly the first time around. :P
Very good point. Look at how long " the generation of 1914, will not pass away before the end is here."... Then💡... oh... the generations actually overlap...
Communication requires clarity, conciseness, and coherence between all parties. God actually falls under worst communicator in all of the universe. He couldn’t even preserve his original notes he had written down.
Don’t forget he also needs over 2000 years to convince just 0.1% of the earth that his “true religion” is the JWs by the time he is going to “smite” the other 99.9%. Communication supreme
My mother, a devout JW for many years, became convinced that she was of the anointed and began partaking. It created a huge scandal and I think she was on the verge of being reproved or disfellowshipped at one point. She was harassed by a number of different congregations and even brought the matter to the society. I still have some of the letters she wrote, essentially begging them for mercy. She was even shunned by many of her friends, including some she had helped bring into the "truth". Even after her death, I would run into some who knew her and they would bring up the issue. They would accuse her of going against Jehovah and being mentally ill. My mom did have emotional issues, mainly depression, but she was very devout. Unfortunately for her, she really believed in and loved Jehovah in an emotional way and was extremely devoted to the organization. It makes me so sad when I think of how she suffered for this cult.
I’m having the same exact problem with my mom, she claims she’s anointed and there’s been scandals at every hall and hatred from many. It’s a shame, it makes me truly sad she’s gonna be in this cult for her whole life
@@Joshua-tm4wp So sorry to hear this. I was only vaguely aware of what my mom was going through as I had been out for many years at that point. She only shared a little with me as she didn't want to "stumble" me. I got the impression she came close to leaving the org but eventually found a congregation that would accept her. My regret is that I didn't do much to support her during that time. She had been shunning me and I was filled with resentment. Also, I had three small children and I just didn't have the energy for more witness b.s. I wasn't able to summon much compassion for her situation. Even now it hurts to think how much energy she put into her life as a witness. I will say that I was able to spend time with her at the end of her life. She expressed her love for me and her many regrets over the way she treated me. But she remained devout to the very end. I hope your mother is able to wake up in time to see the truth about the "truth". Wishing you the best.
Sad to hear that, we all love our moms, but they are convinced that is the truth. I mean, it's like a social club, you have friends and do things together, which is nice for her, but she's always trying to make me go back. I'm opening my mind to everything right now. And sadly I believe there's no truth out there. Nobody is right. I just cannot believe how many different religions there are and they all think different things. I just cannot belong anywhere... I take the small good things the Bible has and use it in my family, but every day I'm more convinced there's no such a thing as a "truth" or "correct interpretation" of the Bible...
It's scary that the parents in the Org listen to these men and let them decide everything for their children via the publications/videos!!! I fear for those kids everyday.
@@alyssawoodman I was raised in it too. Luckily my Dad was not in it,so I had some normalcy. Yet it still had a negative effect on me too. Hang in there!♥️
My experience.... Growing up a witness. I never felt good enough. My self-esteem was constantly hindered. Based on his explanation, I still wouldn't believe I had a place with Christ. Everyone around me had a hope to live on the Paradise Earth, but I was never quite so sure. I saw people explain the same feelings they had for the "earthly hope," as I had about the "heavenly hope." I didn't understand it. I thought the best place would be with the Lord and I couldn't understand why other people wouldn't want the same thing. To each his own. It's not my place to persuade what a person believes happens to them after their body dies. I know what I believe. Interestingly though, it wasn't until I left the organization, I realized and accepted a place at the Lord's right hand. I want to be with him intimately. I do believe in the power of God's word and the holy spirit that moves and teaches. The scripture he mentioned at 1 John 2:27 is the scripture that really stayed on my heart when I left. I can receive the holy spirit and it can teach me. I've learned so much now that I am not on the constant spinning wheel of their teachings surrounded by scripture vs. scripture surrounded by the spirit who teaches. Now, I am reading the bible for what it is. So what would he say since I have the same view of 1 John 2:27 but I'm no longer affiliated with the Witnesses?
When my mom was younger she asked one of those who were supposedly one of the amounted how they knew they were one of the anointed. The person answered with "if you have to ask that question you know you're not one of the anointed" and left it at that. My mom always saw this as some amazing response, I always thought it was the most insane thing I've ever heard and about the most useless explanation ever given.
If we go on with this reasoning flow, to "know" for sure to be annointed, without the need to ask about any detail for some clarity, you should be born into a jw family, or have been introduced in that world in very young age. This is the only way you can have informations about the meaning of the word and make your feelings condition (delusion) coincide with that word. Anyone who converts being an adult should, even if he always felt to be "special" in some way, ask something about
@@gloriaanima3575 I received myself that same answer many times, a statement can be sarcastic but at the same time true for the one who say it, maybe he intends to say something he really think using sarcasm
@@canaledisfogo4698 You must still be a watchtower clone as your "response" is instructive and I don't need your instruction to my observation. Bud out clone.
@@gloriaanima3575 you decided to reply to my comment, no one forced you to, in the moment you decide to reply a comment, you must expect a response. If you don't like that someone, explaining his point of view, "explain you something", this is a problem for you, not mine, I've been very polite, so if you feel bad about my pacate answer... well, I don't care
@@quandale3311 Really grasping for straws here, aren't you Isaac. In the classic passive aggressive Witness tone we all learned as children, no less. Shouldn't you be worshipping a publishing company in New York right about now? Who is supposedly infallible? The fact that you're on here either means you're A: searching for the truth, or B: filled with enough ego to believe that your indoctrination is strong enough to resist hard facts and clear evidence. Either way, best of luck to you.
@@quandale3311 I disagree ,based on my personal life experience. Worldly people are worse. Im not a jw but to me worldly means anyone who mocks Jesus and those who are trying to do what Jesus says( at least in their minds).
@@ms.anonymousinformer242 In my experience people from all walks of life are good and bad, it doesn't matter what your religious belief or lack their of happens to be but how people are raised, Are religious people more moral? (theconversation.com)
The tricky thing about being insane is that you can't know you are insane, that would be sane. Only an insane person would have absolutely no doubts about being a chosen one in a divine prophecy. So to be annointed, you must be a crazy person. Gotcha.
What I find incredible is people believe them when they say that they are annointed. That is absolutely amazing to me. They believe them. Truly incredible.
I’m Catholic We have a 2000yr unbroken line of popes. That’s how we know. No ones gonna know They’re gonna know No ones gonna know How would they know ?
@@brendangoodbrand2597 God has revealed himself to us in the person of Jesus. The problem with the JWs is not only are they false, but they make people hate all organized religion. People organize things. That’s what we do. So religion is organized too
When I was a kid, we had an "anointed" at our hall and he was treated kind of like a local Jdub celebrity. He was a spectacle at the memorial. Now they treat the partakers like they're insane.
we also had a really old man called Brother D who also partook of the emblems and we was all like in awwwweeeeee ... now looking back its actually not such an amazing thing to get excited about
The only anointed i ever met were all very simple, blue collar nice people, nothing special about them and i never witnessed anyone treating them differently or in awe of them
@@cygnustsp I think that's nice. Sounds like yours was a more progressive congregation than others. We had a sister at our hall who partook. Most jws looked askance at her.
Yes. And why so many Bible Translations, and why can't the Bible be easy to read and understand what God's plan for the Earth is in plain English? (Or whatever language one may speak).
@@dreamrealitysyndrome New Light is a JW term for a new teaching or interpretation of scripture(s) by The Governing Body. It replaces the previous doctrine.
Okay soooo before I left I was taught and told that after 1935 the rest of of work would focus on the Great Crowd and the the seeking of anointed ones ended in 1914 or 1919, 25 just someone explain this to me?
“Jehovah is the greatest communicator in the universe.” Hasn’t said a damn thing in a couple thousand years, great communication! He’s more akin to being a celestial version of a deadbeat dad, one that forgets to even send you a simple birthday card, or to call every so often, or if he did call it’d only be to ask what you’re doing for him.
No surprise! This jehova religion was only cobbled together by a bunch of religious fanatics in New York. Of course their god hasn’t said a damn thing. He NEVER existed !
Put your faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ. He is worthy! Did the thief on the cross have time to do "good works"? No. He simply accepted Jesus through faith and was saved. The Bible is all about Jesus from Genesis to Revelation. May the Holy Spirit Illuminate your mind God bless.
@@crewsmitty4495 put your faith in the teachings of Harry Potter. He is the most powerful wizard alive! May your Patronus charm always have plenty of happy memories to grow from. Alohomora!
To Justaquietbird: It's not His fault if people don't want to listen. About 1,500 years ago He sent Muhammad with the Qu'ran and more recently (1844) sent the Bab and Baha'u'llah with a new message, adapted to the requirements and intellectual capacity of the present age (yes, I'm a Bahá'í). Like Jesus before them, these Messengers of God have been rejected by the very people who prided themselves as being most religious. Why? Because they were so emotionally attached to timeworn traditions and the accumulated interpretations of generations of self-proclaimed spiritual leaders that they couldn't entertain the idea that God should dare to reveal anything new, or that He should do so in any manner that didn't conform to their own limited understanding.
Stephen knows he's spirit-annointed because he's the most beautiful person in the world, with a pretty face and an endearing smile. Stephen also is the most intellectualy advanced person in this part of the universe, surpassing such people as Einstein and Kant /sarcasm
There are many who have knowledge and were annointed with Holy Spirit, but when they gained more knowledge of the scriptures, its funny (not) how they were df'd for running ahead (of the org.), maybe it was that brother who had special knowledge to provide at the right time, and they just blew him off. At least he mentioned sisters. (Rare occurrence for something so important). Can she hold the 🎤
I shouldn't be surprised but I can't believe they're so stupid to come out and state this all so bluntly. When I was a kid this question of who knew they were "anointed" (feel free to read that as "delusional") was almost something you weren't supposed to talk about. You know, because if you think about any of this, it starts to fall apart when logic and reason is applied...
Oh I'm certainly one. 7 1/2 months sober and one sip is too many. 1000 drinks are never enough. Thankfully I don't drink the kool aid either these days. I believe a higher power exists but it certainly doesn't reside in Mr Lett. 😂
Soooo...if the anointed no longer need anyone teaching them, doesn't that officially debunk the idea of receiving "new light"? I mean, they no longer need to be taught, so they should know all the things up front, right? You can't have it both ways.
In verse 27, it says. " His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and not a lie"...so there would be no need for " new light" continually! Oh, if JWs would open their eyes to this crap.
Faeryns (interesting name) ,here's a thought if they ? he no longer need anyone teaching them does that class as " SELF" righteous.... just think it thru. No one or thing or Deity is telling them/ teaching them then it has to be self....MMMMMM???? my Granddaughter could drive a truck thru those holes.
i really admire your calm lloyd,for someone who does not believe in god ,you have all the qualities of the holy spirit, you are a kind patient and loving person, you speak with no hate .
I think probably because you couldn’t see them make an absolute joke of themselves on video, now we all can, thanks to modern technology and the utter lack of self awareness of these goons to realise the game is up.
One solitary life He was born in an obscure village, the child of a peasant. He grew up in another village, where He worked in a carpenter shop until He was thirty. Then, for three years, He was an itinerant preacher. He never wrote a book. He never held an office. He never had a family or owned a home. He didn’t go to college. He never lived in a big city. He never traveled 200 miles from the place where He was born. He did none of the things that usually accompany greatness. He had no credentials but Himself. He was only thirty-three when the tide of public opinion turned against Him. His friends ran away. One of them denied Him. He was turned over to His enemies and went through the mockery of a trial. He was nailed to a cross between two thieves. While He was dying, His executioners gambled for His garments, the only property He had on earth. When He was dead, He was laid in a borrowed grave, through the pity of a friend. Twenty centuries have come and gone, and today He is the central figure of the human race. I am well within the mark when I say that all the armies that ever marched, all the navies that ever sailed, all the parliaments that ever sat, all the kings that ever reigned -put together -have not affected the life of man on this earth as much as that one, solitary life. “I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God. That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic - on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg - or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.” - CS LEWIS “Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance, the only thing it cannot be is moderately important.” ― C.S. Lewis.
@@dinxpe6592 Nobody cares what C.S Lewis thinks about existence, he is not any kind of authority on the matter. Whoever the character in the bible story is is really not as relevant as the beginnings of it all and the underlying back story, the one about a so called supreme being that acts out like a 2 year old, commits mass genocide on one hand, mental torture on the other, demands obedience while claiming to offer free will, involves himself in messy blood battles which result in colateral deaths of bystanders, and so many many more utterly psychotic deeds. Yet you’re all about Jesus.. Hmm, one really has to twist all concept of right and wrong and what bit of that book is the most relevant to do that. The most relevant thing in that book is that oh so kind and sweet Jesus is the front man to a MONSTER. Good job it’s all utter rubbish.
@@dinxpe6592 I don’t subscribe to any label. Do I believe in your God of the bible? Absolute not, that book is objectively ridiculous in so many ways. Do I imagine there ‘may’ be a higher form of consciousness? Sure, I’m one, there are probably others more evolved than me. I imagine many things that might exist but I don’t hang myself on any belief. Usually the next thing a Theist imagines is that I therefore believe in ‘science’ as if that were something to believe in, no, that neither. I simply observe and make rational connections and decide if something makes rational sense given my capacity to reason and the facts I can observe.
Here's the logic, "I feel special and privileged, therefore I am special and privileged." It's strange, but I have very vivid memories of checking the Year Book for the numbers on how many Anointed Ones were left. How was I able to do that? Oh yeah, because they realised that they'd all died and had to move the goalposts, just like they did with the "generation." "Mental or emotional imbalance." Funny how they left out "delusional." What if Lett is delusional?
As I understand it, in a JW home the husband is expected to be head of household. Okay, fair enough. But... what if the wife is anointed and the husband isn't? Does this change the dynamic?
As an elder, I once had a person who claimed to be anointed come to me because they did not want to partake at the memorial. The reason was this person was not white and had also grown up in the congregation and there were people who are older than the person. It amounted to emotional persecution. And so I chose to celebrate the memorial with them 30 days later, as watchtower allows for certain emergencies. After I left, a white person who said they were anointed was trying to get me to come back. I related that story to them, and they were certain that the person I'd help was not really anointed because they should have taken it at the memorial. And yet apparently, that person's certainty should be all of our certainty.
A couple years before I left the organization, I truely believed I was of the anointed. It wasn't until I listened to various accounts and testimonies of people having religious experiences outside of Jehovah's Witnesses, that helped me become more grounded in understanding what was going on in my head. I can say being away from that environment has helped me be more grounded in reality and has helped me make better decisions in life that benefit me and the people around me.
How do you explain Peter rejecting Jesus on the night of his arrest. Peer pressure. If your GB member your safe, but if your not, and most anointed are not, your a target even by your own. I was in a Kingdom Hall where there were 40 partackers, l know. 😱
I'm an atheist. And at first I would ask myself why would people invest time talking against religion. But now I realize that it's not exactly against religion, it's more a fight against ignorance. Thank you for this channel and for all your contribution in favor of critical thinking and knowledge. I wish the world was more in line with channels like these. Thank you so much!!
@clarence stoddard What?? 😄 Belief is not exactly a choice. It's more a conclusion you arrive to. I can't just believe in a religion or deity. You gotta proove your argument. So far, there's Zero proof.
I appreciate this video so much. I've been out since 2007 but the nagging thoughts still linger. The way we were taught about the governing body in that you trust them without question. So thinking they were anointed was never questioned in my mind. I've been watching you for a few years now, and seeing these men for what they are, which are con men, absolutely nothing special about them. It's hilarious listening to them, there pompous, all knowing attitudes, and knowing they are nothing! I listened to them, let them guide my life for so many years, well I'm in charge now. I personally still believe in a higher power, whatever you want to call it, but I'm in control of my life. For good for bad its my life. Freedom!!!
Being commanded to trust others "without question" leads nowhere good. It allows one to be completely manipulated, disempowered and abused. Perfect for the malignant narcissist/sociopaths that run cults and are drunk on power, money and sex.
I was raised a JW and left 2+ decades ago. Revisiting their content 25 years later, I'm so struck about how patronizing their tone is and how simplistic and infantile their positions are. They communicate like they are speaking to small children. Clearly, they don't hold their people in very high esteem intellectually, or perhaps they use this time intentionally to keep people in an infantile intellectual state.
I was brought up as a JW in the early sixties in a small town in Northern Britain. At the Memorial one brother took the wine, but it always make me wonder that over the years and the congregations over the world there must be more than 144.000 Witnesses believing they were the chosen few. The mathematics do not add up, especially now that we are 60 years down the line.
Yes, most congregations back then had at least one, even in to the eighties, and that’s just Britain. Earlier congregations had masses. This is supposed to go back to the early christians? Like you say, it doesn’t add up.
The problem they have with more partakers is really cultural. Back in the day most of us didn't want to be different or stand out and that played into the mindset that we were not special enough to be of the "anointed class . Today, everyone thinks they are special and so they claim the heavenly hope.
well what happens after steavens lett had 5 glasses of irish whiskey he stood in front of a mirror and a demon appared behind him and says when you expire you are coming with me.
10:00 *"If you have to ask, then you're not annointed".* Yep, note how it's all about *CONFIDENCE.* This should set off alarm bells for people, because such Confidence is routinely used to trick & hook people in with shams. It's literally where we get the phrase *CONman* from, it's original form refers to a "Confidence-Man". As a social species, we humans we are psychologically hardwired to believe in people that show confidence, and we spend a lot of our educational time essentially learning strategies to protect ourselves from this and many other of our oh-so-troublesome cognitive biases.
I wonder if the governing body have to talk about this subject because their members are starting to question things? How many times can you call The End and be wrong, and still have followers put trust in you?
For all eternity u can make the claim and still have gullible people fall for it. 200 yrs from now they will claim they never stated 1914 as the beginning of the last days and that its just apostate driven lies and the members will fall for it.
HUGH disappointment? How'd y'a know? Did Jesus himself tell you something different? Did you know Jesus now lives in Australia? He's married to Mary Magdalene and they are living happily. He has no plans to go to heaven any time soon.
@@lesliethompson5218 Is ANY bible claim valid? If you say, yes, then anything Lett says is also valid. Unless and until Jesus tells you differently, any Christian claim is credible. Even the Jesus of Australia. Without sound evidence otherwise, judge not lest you be judged. Sound familiar? Love "...bears all things and believes all things..." [ 1 Corinthians 13 ] Hope this helps you.
The JW Memorial service is one of the most bizarre services I’ve ever witnessed. As a Christian I couldn’t help but think they are passing “the bread of life” right on by. Lett is one of the most bizarre communicators I’ve ever seen.
I remember one of the 'anointed' coming to dinner at my parents when the circuit overseer was visiting. I went into school on the monday bragging to the kids I met someone going to heaven. If I could time travel I'd go back and give my child self a massive slap.
I celebrate the memorial in my home, I understand the scripture is we are all suppose to partake , I don’t accept that we are not to from reading the scriptures, my conscience tells me to partake so I’m following my heart I just don’t know what to Don with unleavened bread. I use crackers and red wine I hope it’s ok
This is a typical Watchtower trait. As you say there is no scripture telling you not to partake. As there is no scripture telling you not to celebrate birthdays. No Scripture telling you not to celebrate Christmas. No scripture telling you about blood fractions. ITS ALL WATCHTOWER`S INTERPRETATION!!!! Its not scriptural
I job he makes a sacrifice for his children incase they have sinned, in that part in the start of job, he speaks of all his children celebrating their day( birthday) but never studied at talks that even job celebrated birthdays
@@RitaMalikfour Yes Rita, you are correct. I was angry recently at the Caleb and Sofia video regarding birthdays. His Dad tells him Jehovah is SAD that you celebrated a birthday and Jehovah HATES birthdays!!! Firstly, how can anyone decide the emotions of a spirit creature and where does it say he hates birthhdays? It doesn`t. Watchtowers presumption , because people died at 2 birthday celebrations. If the Watchtower wants to use that logic, if the Bible mentioned 2 weddings where people died, would they then not get married, or say Jehovah hates weddings? And really. I promise you Jehovah will NOT HATE you for using crackers instead of leavened bread, especially as you won`t be partaking of them unless a voice in your head tells you to do so in the next week. The actual act of NOT partaking is copying a Black Mass practised by Satanists who perform the same ceremony by rejecting the flesh and blood of Christ. And finally, do any of these governing body members say when and where they were anointed? I left this cult 20 years ago this year and I can say I`m anointed, prove me wrong! You can`t. Just as much as they can`t prove they are. It`s all one huge con from a billion dollar business. By the way, may I ask if you`re having doubts over the religion as you are posting on an apostate website? Regards Andy
@@peterjohnson1046 I use to doubt, but boy now, I believe satan is running this watchtower, I despise it, and all the secrets as if Jehovah can’t see what that are up to and as far as making it to the paradise, heaven or earth, the bible says we are judged by our heart not religion I must have been so brainwashed but after reasearchi g I saw this was another false religion, I can’t fi d anywhere in the bible Jehovah’s witnesses but I can find Christians , that’s good enough fir me, abd I follow what hesys says, I tried to read a few scriptures to my j dub family and they got so angry cause I didn’t read it from the watchtower, somehow they think the watchtower is better then the bible
@@osogrande4999 he's been baptized for the past 55 years and that's the first time he ever partook. I was really surprised. He's been an elder for about 45 years.
@@maybethistime1460 It was just a pun, whine/wine, but yes I can see it’s a distressing thing for you to see happen to your brother. I hope all works out ok.
I want to say that from this statement I'm anointed too....because I've got knowledge from God ,and I've got message from God "Walk with true God " .So organization should be to help people to Walk with true God ,not to worship to. governing body. So this is knowledge I've got ...do you think I'm anointed ??
If the basis of being annointed is that YOU know for certain without a doubt then it should be nobody's place to say whether you are or not. And therefore anyone partaking should be counted in the "144K" or is it that they realize their foundation of this number makes no sense and is easily discredited when they consider the number of partakers fluctuates annually? 🤔🍞🍷
When I was a child I would fall asleep at night crying because I “felt like I was anointed “. I felt different, like certain sorts of logic just came to me. I understood things immediately that others had to work hard to learn. For example every time they announced “new light” for an understanding of a scripture, I was like, “wait, when did we think it meant THAT?” It made me sad because I wasn’t going to live with my loved ones in paradise on earth with the animals. Fast forward to my 30s. I guess I am “anointed” because now I know things beyond the JW understanding that they work hard to avoid learning. I let that ability lead me to research more about what my instincts were telling me. And I don’t get to be with my loved ones, or live on a paradise earth, just for different reasons. 🤷🏼♀️
It is amazing how Jehovah makes being anointed clear cut and without any doubt but yet when it comes to the teachings they spew out they change over time as the “light gets brighter?” The Great communicator?
Lett looks a lot like Marshall Applewhite. I always thought that. Many find his expressions enduring, but I always found them creepy. We met him one time at a convention. Everyone flocked around him like a superstar. Weird
I remember asking this very question to the sister I was studying with and she said “you feel it “ and I told her I feel it and she was like “nah” I was like 👁👀, how do you know?” I was 13 studying the “what does God require of us “brochure
Correct me if I’m wrong but, looking at the names of the members of the entire governing body it seems like they’re all American, is there any record of any Asian or Latino?
So the holy spirit made a mistake anointing Ray Franz? Why would Jehovah allow this to happen? He didn't tell the other GB this would happen. They had no "knowledge."
I have to say thanks to Steven Lett & Anthony Morris, every time they speak they confirm my best decision of stepping away from these false beliefs.
I can express myself that I was apart of this organization and I know the true god would want me to show and uphold the utmost respect for these people even love we must “pray for our enemies” please my friend do not give up faith in god and his son we cannot attain life any other way we love you stay strong and keep searching for truth no offence this guy is atheist and I respect him for his beliefs but he cannot express himself on certain on certain things properly be used he doesn’t share this background
The governing body are the modern day apostles, the apostles are all anointed and are taking direction from heaven now. There are more anointed than what is on the panel but there are some who don’t understand what to do at a memorial and that is why they say don’t eat and drink (unless you are of the anointed (much like the apostles) you have your facts wrong and misleading many
@@DarkSideOfMyFart1993 the governing body are not the modern day apostles they are not taking direction from heaven and the fact that they have a 100% failure rate in their prophecies and the fact that so many of their teachings have changed over and over goes to show they are not getting directed from heaven and it proves that God is not using them as His channel of communication . More like they are directed by satan
@@ericbulman1752 I’m sad that you feel that way my friend honestly I am, but can I just point out that the governing body hasn’t prophesied on a single occasion, like I said, apostles not prophets. Jehovahs witnesses base our beliefs entirely on the bible we are known for our knowledge in the bible, this is because you shouldn’t rely on your own understanding but in fact the word of god. So for you to say “failure in prophecies” would be your failure in prophecies if you was to base your belief on that of gods word. “It says in the bible do not call another man father yet you do anyway, the bible says do not ink your skin yet you do, the bible says oppose from spell binders spiritual mediums and fortune tellers yet you do not the bible says “a life for a life” yet you go to war and kill people and have an abortions freely, the bible says do not lie cheat and steal yet you do. “By my fruits you will recognise….” We as Jehovah’s Witnesses do not do these things we follow gods command and have nothing but love for the world, yet they who do wickedness stands and says “you take direction from Satan” I think you should maybe look into your religion a little deeper before throwing accusations to me, the world is lying in the power of the wicked one, yet, I bet you vote for a leader, do you do the lottery and chase financial gain, do you pledge allegiance to the flag and sing a national anthem or have any idols such as a cross.. all things of course the bible says you shouldn’t do.
@@DarkSideOfMyFart1993
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I feel like I'm a wizard, therefore I'm a wizard. Gandalf anointed me. Can't tell me differently.
I feel like a Hobbit cos I av a love of things that grow :)
I don't believe in Gandalf
I KNOW I am Cleopatras reincarnate.
Could it be I’m Elvis 🤔🤔
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"They don't need confirmation from anyone else" How convenient
lol :)
Love your profile pic Logan❤️
No anointed ones need teaching from any one else... how about direction, correction, educating? Must be hard on them to be so perfect.
Well then they shouldn't need "donations" from 'anyone else' !
Ha ha ha, they are a joke and they revel in how they have brainwashed their followers into believing everything that they preach. They are a bunch of sick mentally unbalanced autocratic megalomaniacs, which falls into psychiatric medical classifications as well as criminal. .
I never realised the extent of how ridiculous the Memorial was until just now. Why on Earth did we have to pass it around?! Why was that so important if we weren't partaking? It's almost as if we had to make a show of rejecting Christ
It's a black mass. That's why.
Right? Why did we even have to go??? If it is really only for those who can partake?
@@dawnbenshoof6275 Ikr?! Nonsensical
I often think back to my time as a JW and realize how ridiculous it all was 😂 and not only did I accept it, I wholeheartedly believed in it! What was going through my head? Madness! 😵💫
@@georjiep4338 Almost like we were 'mentally diseased' back then 😆
"Jehovah is the greatest communicator in the universe."
If this were true, we would not have 150 years of Watchtower publications attempting to explain what the Bible "REALLY" teaches, only for most of those publications to be thrown out as false doctrine ('old light') by the very same Watchtower corporation that produced them.
They are part of the new world order, but not in the way they believe they are.. I wish they would wake up before its to late for them. C.T. RUSSEL was no good at all. The documents that show this is definitely out there, BUT because of the mind control cult, witnesses read no there publications unless published by them!
I feel like these people are just fucking with us.
You should look in the scrolls.
( Bible)
It’s in Matthew 24:36.
Day or hour no one know ,
His day of coming.”!
The false prophets speak with presumptuousness,
Jeremiah 50: 31.
Said I’m against you O presumptuousness.
Yes this men from New York
Are false prophets.
Deuteronomy 18:22.
@@yolandahernandez9154 And why would you think that has any relevance at all?
@Sedgey Rirrf Yes, this “about having the mind of god” thing....
You’re happy to dash babies heads against rocks are you, to instigate rape against women, condone slavery, and the beating of them, the holding back of little girls for soldiers after their families have been murdered in front of them, and all they know destroyed? To destroy anyone that isn’t praising you or has “forgotten” you, despite the fact that billions are born into a different culture and know completely different god’s, and blame people for being the way you created them? To send your worse enemy against people, but blame them for the results of that? To blame every single human for the first couple you made from then on? That’s all good by you, is it? Fair?
“I recommend that you stick with the Scriptures” you say?
I did, all of it, instead of just cherry picking the ‘nice bits’, and it lead me to atheism.
What a scam. We're important. You are not. Now send us money.
@@davidwharton6806
Or initially miss the point 🙆
and then Need " New Light" ! 😵
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Send us your cash so we can go to heaven and leave to Rank and File suckers to it....oh I mean live in luxury and wealth...until we're sued for Paedophile cover ups.....oh crap, shouldn't have said that....can we edit this out....no......BOLLOCKS.
@@robertdawson2743
Exactly ! 😏
I,m not a JW but I know for a certainty that they never solicit for money. All money received is voluntarily donated. No one knows who donated.
I took 7 shots of Macallans and instantly knew I was annointed. Surely that's all the PROOF you need.
That's at least 40 proof right there!!
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@@scoremat this comment needs more likes!
I’ll drink to that!
Does it have to be Mcallans or will any whisky do if you drink enough of it?
Anointed by Holy Spirit or wholly by spirits?
Stephen Lett is asking JWs to, ACCEPT IT based on FACE value... lmaoooooo
Like we have to accept that back in 1919 they were invisibly chosen as the only true religion!🙄
Lol. Funny!
@@maryannlockwood7806 yeah and chosen though they still celebrated Christmas, worshipped Jesus and used the cross, according to their belief that those are all "false worship"
Excuse me but Stephen Lett is an absolute model of a man. And I looked up the definition of the word model just to be sure...
“fashion or shape (a three dimensional figure or object) in a malleable material such as clay or wax.”
@@osogrande4999 Lmao
"I am spirit anointed, through me god gives his message to the people. I need no confirmation from anyone" - Said every cult leader who ever existed!
I ask you is the God that displayed darkness in the old testament the GOD massiah represented.
@@Frank-rt5wv No god Has a twin brother. I thought everyone knew that! 🙄
Thanks for your reply. May be this will help. Massiah was anointed but I don't remember him boasting about himself. The reason I asked the question is to test the spirit. Massiah said if you now me you now him who sent me. Obviously he speaking about his Father my Father. If you now who massiah represented in his actions and words and scripture say there is no darkness in the Father and can not lie death is his enemy. Then all the darkness lies and killing is who in the old writings or testament, yahweh right. Yet massiah never referred to his Heavenly Father other than Father as we should also. I'm not going to go into detail at this stage unless o anointed one your ears and eyes are open.
I was contacted by my former JW teacher inviting me to their memorial services. For a brief moment, I was almost sucked in, but as the day got closer I began to feel in my spirit that I shouldn't and I didn't. I'm glad I listened. It can be so hard to break away from these people and I'm still trying to let go of a lot of their silly teachings. I know many have became agnostic or atheist after their experience with JWs. I haven't, I still believe in the God of the Bible, I just don't believe in the JWs' version.
You would do well to stick with Christ my friend.
NOWHERE in the bible does it say that we are to join ANY "religious cult"!
The bible says "be ye holy".. come out from among the world. "Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and HIS righteousness and ALL THESE THINGS shall be ADDED UNTO YOU".
remember.. Jesus said, "I AM the WAY.. the TRUTH and the the LIFE"
@@justinhemion6279 The bible is pretty bad, we dont have any concrete evidence jesus as told in the bible even existed, and we genuinely cant prove if he even said anything the bible claims, no one needs religion anymore, its awful.
@@Callumxfisher And it's awfully convenient that there's no tangible proof of being "anointed." Is it narcissistic to think of yourself as that special?
@@Mercipher21 agreed
I was taught as a JW kid that all the anointed ones were chosen basically before I was born and that the ones still on earth were just waiting to go to heaven. I find it very interesting that, that number has roughly doubled in the last 25ish years.
I remember that too!!
Have to wonder whos getting kicked out of heaven
They used to teach anyone prior to 1935 was anointed and anyone baptized after 1935 was of the great crowd. All of them were baptized after 1935. Soooooooo 🤷🏽♂️ lol
I remember that too.
@@b1crusade384 of course today’s new light will be old light in days to come so therefore apostate lies.
I asked a old lady professing to be 1 of 144,000 how she knew when she came to our house for dinner. My 10 year old brain processed her answer as 'because i said so and how dare you ask'. At the next meeting me and my mum were pulled in back where the elders put me in my place. When your a kid you know something is off put can't quite put it togather yet.
I thought they all had to be male??
@@SilverSixpence888 naw, just full of it. So the ladies can go to heaven but can't say pray in front of a man.
@@SatansSimgma Correct. Both male and female witnesses can claim to be one of the 144,000 .
@Born again believer just fruit
@Born again believer yep!!
I had an uncle , bless him..who was so sweet and gentle and soft spoken..He was very much into being a good witness. One day , he partook at the Memorial. Poor man was shamed and looked down upon and his family was so embarrassed. The congregation and governing body really hurt him. I totally forgot about it until I watched this. I'm so glad to be free ..I was Df'd back in 89. Thank you for your loving service to others Lloyd. 🙏💖
He sounded like a really great guy!! 💔🙏🏻 I'm so sorry he was hurt like that. I remember the 1st time I saw someone partake I was about 20, and it was a very old man in the new congregation I had moved to. Even as a fully indoctrinated JW, it shook me up. I had never seen anyone partake. And I kinda had this moment I believe started my wake up process...of...who does he think he is? Lol I kinda felt like a jealousy to see myself and everyone pass it on and then it got to him and he ate and drank and I thought well why can't I?? I'm not special enough? It's all really messed up.
@@terrestrialcelestial Thank you! 💖🙏
Same exact thing happened to my dad. I heard the murmuring from the congregation even though I was his son. They are not shy about shaming someone, just not to the persons face.
I never knew all that memorial shaming went on. In my Cong it was only the old fogeys.who partook. Thought just the old folks going to heaven.
What's the point of having it fir years I wondered why do we reject it when christ said to do this ?
I've been disfellowshipped for nineteen years, so it's been awhile since I've seen a talk or anything. Watching Lett felt like a parody of what I remember from my JW life.
Greatest communicator in the universe line cracked me up. Leaves a book that can be interpretated thousands of different ways to the extent of causing wars... Great communicator
Oh, but wait! Jehovah just gave us "New Light"...because his "Old Light" was a little dim, I guess...
It would take an extremely advanced puppeteer to emulate this dude on the Muppet Show.
It might take several!
Jim Henson Productions might be overwhelmed!!!
x'D loool
My very thought LOL
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I remember a sister started to partake in emblems, and she only came to memorial. The brother wrestled her for the wine because she was trying to partake.
So if the spirit identifies her as part of the 144,000 then why is this brother wrestling with her!?
Yes this whole ordeal went down at memorial!!! 😂
Lol that's funny. One of my best friends mom would only come to the memorial and would partake and people were kind of like umm okkk.. she was a nice lady but was terrified of us using computers or buying used hockey equipment because it could bring demons. In the winter a local pond would freeze over and she refused to let us ice skate on it until she walked out on it. She must've weighed 350 pounds so i guess she figured if it broke through and she drowned she'd instantly be im heaven anyway.
It's always the batshit crazy people who claim to be anointed now. I remember this one sister when I was a kid. Never went to a single meeting except the memorial. Partook emblems. 100 hrs a month reported on service. Drew her eyebrows in these high arches so that she always looked cray.
Hahaha oh wow!
@@cygnustsp How does Hockey cause demons?
@@herbiehopkins I think the fact that it's second hand equipment was the issue here. It is/was a common superstition among witnesses to think that 2nd hand stuff could contain demons. I'm not aware if The Watchtower ever published anything to cause this.
What about Raymond Franz? He was a member of the Governing Body, and he got disfellowshipped shortly after leaving the organization, soooooooooo, what happened? Did "God" mess up when he picked him, or something?
Good point
I always wonder about the OG Ray Franz.
Their “GOD” is insane like the rest of them.
Raymond Franz now he was an example of a godly man. ..and the WTBS should be ashamed of the treatment of that kind soul!
From what I've read in his book 'Crisis of Conscience' so far, events that happened throughout his life eventually led him to leave, even though he was anointed. Interesting read!
I am actually greatful to Stephen lett! He gradually made me more convinced. I was following a joke 😂😂
😂😂😂😂lol 😆 😂
When I was a witness I had a Bible study with a younger than 50 years old female. She 100 percent KNEW for certain she was going to heaven.
She had me convinced. My husband at the time was an elder. He instructed me to tell her she was mistaken. That didn't fly. She kept insisting. She had been attending meetings regularly. The elders finally had a meeting with her and told her there was No Way she was anointed.
The next memorial my Bible study partook of the emblems. She said that they were wrong to doubt her.
It was a big mess. I really believe that was a HUGE part of what got me doubting the entire religion.
If there was an elder's meeting with her and she was told that she could not be an anointed, then there is no doubt that she wasn't. She was mistaken. And if she partook of the emblems not being an anointed, it is her responsibility for doing it. If others get confused or got in doubt, they should have spoken with elders to clear the doubts or confusion. If you let doubts remain and let them undermine you, you should strengthen your spirituality.
@@pedrogomesgomes Anointed shouldn't drink..as a good example
@@PCongeries I'm sorry, I didn't understand what you mean about drinking.
@@pedrogomesgomes Elders telling her she isn't anointed isn't proof of anything. I hope you were being sarcastic, because there is NO SUCH THING as people going to heaven.
@@humbertobaez2104 Hi Humberto, if you don't believe the Bible, then there is nothing. Otherwise please check what apostle Paul said to the anointed in 1 Thessalonians 4:16+17.
Moreover, if there is no such thing as heaven, from where is Jesus coming from?
If the voices in your head tell you that you are anointed then you are.
They’re known as schizophrenics....
That’s the irony they don’t see how similar they are to someone with schizophrenia the delusions and firm conviction in them is the same
It works like this I’m anointed to this day obviously
The voices in my head are telling me Stephen Lett is still trying to chew a toffee he began in 1978
Crazy psycho phrenia
But in the same breath, the GB are saying many of the rank and file who partake are dealing with mental issues! WWWWTTTFFFF
The so called GB are the ones with mental issues and very delusional.
@@debragreen7668 Agreed!
It’s because they know that’s some people’s pineal gland is woke but they are under brainwashing. So the governing body is fighting a war against peoples third eye, to keep it as delusioned as possible so that they do not catch onto their leaders fight for money. It’s literally a predators slow dance with the victim in tricking around their manifesting powers. On their online library recently they have already begun introducing the universe teaching which is all about manifesting and third eye power. So they realizing that many people’s third eye is waking up and they are maneuvering into a new teaching to continue their business.
@@vekasukhanova7275 Woooow! I have been looking into the Pineal gland, really deep.
@@debragreen7668 exactly!
I’d just like Stephen Lett to say ‘Life is like a box of chocolates’! 😂
Hahaha I always wondered where I heard that kinda voice before!!!
LOL!!!
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"LIFE....is like a BOX of CHOCOLATES. You never KNOW, What you're going to GET"
(Think I got the speech pattern right)
Best lesson my therapist gave me : A crazy person doesn’t think they’re crazy.
Cult members don’t believe they’re cult members.
Anointed people JUST KNOW they’re anointed.
13:48 It is basically the same dichotomy of the Catholic Church. There are the sacred ministers and the secular laity.
I also love the fact that the "greatest communicator in the universe" needs the help of "New Light" in order to be properly understood... you'd think he would have been understood correctly the first time around. :P
It's that the greatest communicator can't code. To engrave stones, that was his strength.
Very good point.
Look at how long " the generation of 1914, will not pass away before the end is here."...
Then💡... oh... the generations actually overlap...
I think Twitter and Facebook etc might take issue with that 'greatest communicator' claim. Absolutely laughable.
Communication requires clarity, conciseness, and coherence between all parties. God actually falls under worst communicator in all of the universe. He couldn’t even preserve his original notes he had written down.
Don’t forget he also needs over 2000 years to convince just 0.1% of the earth that his “true religion” is the JWs by the time he is going to “smite” the other 99.9%. Communication supreme
My mother, a devout JW for many years, became convinced that she was of the anointed and began partaking. It created a huge scandal and I think she was on the verge of being reproved or disfellowshipped at one point. She was harassed by a number of different congregations and even brought the matter to the society. I still have some of the letters she wrote, essentially begging them for mercy. She was even shunned by many of her friends, including some she had helped bring into the "truth". Even after her death, I would run into some who knew her and they would bring up the issue. They would accuse her of going against Jehovah and being mentally ill. My mom did have emotional issues, mainly depression, but she was very devout. Unfortunately for her, she really believed in and loved Jehovah in an emotional way and was extremely devoted to the organization. It makes me so sad when I think of how she suffered for this cult.
I’m having the same exact problem with my mom, she claims she’s anointed and there’s been scandals at every hall and hatred from many. It’s a shame, it makes me truly sad she’s gonna be in this cult for her whole life
@@Joshua-tm4wp So sorry to hear this. I was only vaguely aware of what my mom was going through as I had been out for many years at that point. She only shared a little with me as she didn't want to "stumble" me. I got the impression she came close to leaving the org but eventually found a congregation that would accept her. My regret is that I didn't do much to support her during that time. She had been shunning me and I was filled with resentment. Also, I had three small children and I just didn't have the energy for more witness b.s. I wasn't able to summon much compassion for her situation. Even now it hurts to think how much energy she put into her life as a witness. I will say that I was able to spend time with her at the end of her life. She expressed her love for me and her many regrets over the way she treated me. But she remained devout to the very end. I hope your mother is able to wake up in time to see the truth about the "truth". Wishing you the best.
They have no love.Heartless.Glad to be out.Wasted 20years of my lifem
I’m so sorry about that
Sad to hear that, we all love our moms, but they are convinced that is the truth. I mean, it's like a social club, you have friends and do things together, which is nice for her, but she's always trying to make me go back. I'm opening my mind to everything right now. And sadly I believe there's no truth out there. Nobody is right. I just cannot believe how many different religions there are and they all think different things. I just cannot belong anywhere... I take the small good things the Bible has and use it in my family, but every day I'm more convinced there's no such a thing as a "truth" or "correct interpretation" of the Bible...
Can you imagine how unsafe children would be if the GB was to be the world wide government in charge of protecting them.
It's scary that the parents in the Org listen to these men and let them decide everything for their children via the publications/videos!!! I fear for those kids everyday.
Yes iv mulled that over. Frightening!
@@alyssawoodman thinking about that made my skin crawl.
@@leannazanewich I was one of those kids. Raised in it until 18 then went back for 2.5 years as a adult. It messed up everything for me as a kid!!!
@@alyssawoodman I was raised in it too. Luckily my Dad was not in it,so I had some normalcy. Yet it still had a negative effect on me too. Hang in there!♥️
My experience....
Growing up a witness. I never felt good enough. My self-esteem was constantly hindered. Based on his explanation, I still wouldn't believe I had a place with Christ. Everyone around me had a hope to live on the Paradise Earth, but I was never quite so sure. I saw people explain the same feelings they had for the "earthly hope," as I had about the "heavenly hope." I didn't understand it. I thought the best place would be with the Lord and I couldn't understand why other people wouldn't want the same thing. To each his own. It's not my place to persuade what a person believes happens to them after their body dies. I know what I believe.
Interestingly though, it wasn't until I left the organization, I realized and accepted a place at the Lord's right hand. I want to be with him intimately. I do believe in the power of God's word and the holy spirit that moves and teaches. The scripture he mentioned at 1 John 2:27 is the scripture that really stayed on my heart when I left. I can receive the holy spirit and it can teach me. I've learned so much now that I am not on the constant spinning wheel of their teachings surrounded by scripture vs. scripture surrounded by the spirit who teaches. Now, I am reading the bible for what it is.
So what would he say since I have the same view of 1 John 2:27 but I'm no longer affiliated with the Witnesses?
Haven't watched video yet, but without hesitation clicked on like because I know this is going to be a grand old show.
When my mom was younger she asked one of those who were supposedly one of the amounted how they knew they were one of the anointed. The person answered with "if you have to ask that question you know you're not one of the anointed" and left it at that. My mom always saw this as some amazing response, I always thought it was the most insane thing I've ever heard and about the most useless explanation ever given.
If we go on with this reasoning flow, to "know" for sure to be annointed, without the need to ask about any detail for some clarity, you should be born into a jw family, or have been introduced in that world in very young age. This is the only way you can have informations about the meaning of the word and make your feelings condition (delusion) coincide with that word. Anyone who converts being an adult should, even if he always felt to be "special" in some way, ask something about
@@canaledisfogo4698 Actually it was a sarcastic answer
@@gloriaanima3575 I received myself that same answer many times, a statement can be sarcastic but at the same time true for the one who say it, maybe he intends to say something he really think using sarcasm
@@canaledisfogo4698 You must still be a watchtower clone as your "response" is instructive and I don't need your instruction to my observation. Bud out clone.
@@gloriaanima3575 you decided to reply to my comment, no one forced you to, in the moment you decide to reply a comment, you must expect a response. If you don't like that someone, explaining his point of view, "explain you something", this is a problem for you, not mine, I've been very polite, so if you feel bad about my pacate answer... well, I don't care
If _this_ freak is going to be in the “paradise”, then I’m good.
If this lunatic is ruling in heaven then Im definitely heading for Hell.
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@@quandale3311 Really grasping for straws here, aren't you Isaac. In the classic passive aggressive Witness tone we all learned as children, no less.
Shouldn't you be worshipping a publishing company in New York right about now? Who is supposedly infallible? The fact that you're on here either means you're A: searching for the truth, or B: filled with enough ego to believe that your indoctrination is strong enough to resist hard facts and clear evidence.
Either way, best of luck to you.
@@quandale3311 I disagree ,based on my personal life experience. Worldly people are worse. Im not a jw but to me worldly means anyone who mocks Jesus and those who are trying to do what Jesus says( at least in their minds).
@@ms.anonymousinformer242 In my experience people from all walks of life are good and bad, it doesn't matter what your religious belief or lack their of happens to be but how people are raised, Are religious people more moral? (theconversation.com)
The tricky thing about being insane is that you can't know you are insane, that would be sane. Only an insane person would have absolutely no doubts about being a chosen one in a divine prophecy. So to be annointed, you must be a crazy person.
Gotcha.
That first sentence is exactly the premise of Joseph Heller’s book Catch-22
What I find incredible is people believe them when they say that they are annointed. That is absolutely amazing to me. They believe them. Truly incredible.
I’m Catholic
We have a 2000yr unbroken line of popes.
That’s how we know.
No ones gonna know
They’re gonna know
No ones gonna know
How would they know ?
All organised religion is wrong 👍
@@brendangoodbrand2597 are u a Christian ?
Atheist ?
@@PInk77W1 in my reasoning There is God more points towards God than there not being a God
@@brendangoodbrand2597 God has revealed himself to us in the person of Jesus.
The problem with the JWs is not only are they false, but they make people hate all organized religion.
People organize things. That’s what we do.
So religion is organized too
When I was a kid, we had an "anointed" at our hall and he was treated kind of like a local Jdub celebrity. He was a spectacle at the memorial.
Now they treat the partakers like they're insane.
That's probably because they have doubled in number over the last 25 years or so.
@@angelskitcat6466 yeah good point. That was another "proof" of the last days, the dwindling # of partakers lol
we also had a really old man called Brother D who also partook of the emblems and we was all like in awwwweeeeee ... now looking back its actually not such an amazing thing to get excited about
The only anointed i ever met were all very simple, blue collar nice people, nothing special about them and i never witnessed anyone treating them differently or in awe of them
@@cygnustsp I think that's nice. Sounds like yours was a more progressive congregation than others. We had a sister at our hall who partook. Most jws looked askance at her.
If Jehovah is "The Greatest Communicator" then WHY SO MANY "New Lights"❓❓❓
that's a point 👌
Yes. And why so many Bible Translations, and why can't the Bible be easy to read and understand what God's plan for the Earth is in plain English? (Or whatever language one may speak).
Lol! Awesome point.
What are "new lights?"
@@dreamrealitysyndrome New Light is a JW term for a new teaching or interpretation of scripture(s) by The Governing Body. It replaces the previous doctrine.
I met a few people along the way who thought they were Napoleon. Great presentation, Lloyd!
Thank you Lloyd for these eye-opening videos. Best wishes for your work🙏😊🙏
Okay soooo before I left I was taught and told that after 1935 the rest of of work would focus on the Great Crowd and the the seeking of anointed ones ended in 1914 or 1919, 25 just someone explain this to me?
“Jehovah is the greatest communicator in the universe.” Hasn’t said a damn thing in a couple thousand years, great communication! He’s more akin to being a celestial version of a deadbeat dad, one that forgets to even send you a simple birthday card, or to call every so often, or if he did call it’d only be to ask what you’re doing for him.
But when he comes back, if you haven't obeyed all his rules, he's going to kick you out the house!
No surprise! This jehova religion was only cobbled together by a bunch of religious fanatics in New York. Of course their god hasn’t said a damn thing. He NEVER existed !
Put your faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ. He is worthy! Did the thief on the cross have time to do "good works"? No. He simply accepted Jesus through faith and was saved. The Bible is all about Jesus from Genesis to Revelation. May the Holy Spirit Illuminate your mind God bless.
@@crewsmitty4495 put your faith in the teachings of Harry Potter. He is the most powerful wizard alive! May your Patronus charm always have plenty of happy memories to grow from. Alohomora!
To Justaquietbird: It's not His fault if people don't want to listen. About 1,500 years ago He sent Muhammad with the Qu'ran and more recently (1844) sent the Bab and Baha'u'llah with a new message, adapted to the requirements and intellectual capacity of the present age (yes, I'm a Bahá'í). Like Jesus before them, these Messengers of God have been rejected by the very people who prided themselves as being most religious. Why? Because they were so emotionally attached to timeworn traditions and the accumulated interpretations of generations of self-proclaimed spiritual leaders that they couldn't entertain the idea that God should dare to reveal anything new, or that He should do so in any manner that didn't conform to their own limited understanding.
Stephen knows he's spirit-annointed because he's the most beautiful person in the world, with a pretty face and an endearing smile. Stephen also is the most intellectualy advanced person in this part of the universe, surpassing such people as Einstein and Kant /sarcasm
Good thing you added /sarcasm or I would have 100% believed you. /sarcasm
Stephen Lett, keeper of infinite "gnaw-ledge." Praise be.
Sarcasm?
Really?
you doubt him? the great Lett really? you should speak to the yangwans
There are many who have knowledge and were annointed with Holy Spirit, but when they gained more knowledge of the scriptures, its funny (not) how they were df'd for running ahead (of the org.), maybe it was that brother who had special knowledge to provide at the right time, and they just blew him off. At least he mentioned sisters. (Rare occurrence for something so important). Can she hold the 🎤
I shouldn't be surprised but I can't believe they're so stupid to come out and state this all so bluntly. When I was a kid this question of who knew they were "anointed" (feel free to read that as "delusional") was almost something you weren't supposed to talk about. You know, because if you think about any of this, it starts to fall apart when logic and reason is applied...
Same. I was wondering why they thought it was a good idea to try and explain how here anointed
You answer all the questions I have asked many JW over the years this is one question that I never got a satisfactory answer to Thankyou Lloyd
Steven Lett honestly looks like an alien trying to copy human facial expressions
Lett's face says clearly I'M LYING, I'M LYING.
I thought he was rather saying "What am I talking about?"
Yes but it’s saying “I’M LYING TO MYSELF” - “ and it’s the cognitive dissonance that’s contorting my face”
Alcoholics are not alcoholics either.....just ask them.
He only gets one sip of wine a year, give him a break lol
Oh I'm certainly one. 7 1/2 months sober and one sip is too many. 1000 drinks are never enough.
Thankfully I don't drink the kool aid either these days.
I believe a higher power exists but it certainly doesn't reside in Mr Lett. 😂
Soooo...if the anointed no longer need anyone teaching them, doesn't that officially debunk the idea of receiving "new light"? I mean, they no longer need to be taught, so they should know all the things up front, right? You can't have it both ways.
In verse 27, it says. " His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and not a lie"...so there would be no need for " new light" continually! Oh, if JWs would open their eyes to this crap.
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Faeryns (interesting name) ,here's a thought if they ? he no longer need anyone teaching them does that class as " SELF" righteous.... just think it thru. No one or thing or Deity is telling them/ teaching them then it has to be self....MMMMMM???? my Granddaughter could drive a truck thru those holes.
Yes
Good point
If we assume that the 144k teaching is true, how do they know that the 144k haven't already been sealed a long time ago?
i really admire your calm lloyd,for someone who does not believe in god ,you have all the qualities of the holy spirit, you are a kind patient and loving person, you speak with no hate .
This made my nuts itch. I don’t know why I believed in this for 20+ years haha
I think probably because you couldn’t see them make an absolute joke of themselves on video, now we all can, thanks to modern technology and the utter lack of self awareness of these goons to realise the game is up.
One solitary life
He was born in an obscure village, the child of a peasant. He grew up in another village, where He worked in a carpenter shop until He was thirty. Then, for three years, He was an itinerant preacher.
He never wrote a book. He never held an office. He never had a family or owned a home. He didn’t go to college. He never lived in a big city. He never traveled 200 miles from the place where He was born. He did none of the things that usually accompany greatness. He had no credentials but Himself.
He was only thirty-three when the tide of public opinion turned against Him. His friends ran away. One of them denied Him. He was turned over to His enemies and went through the mockery of a trial. He was nailed to a cross between two thieves. While He was dying, His executioners gambled for His garments, the only property He had on earth. When He was dead, He was laid in a borrowed grave, through the pity of a friend.
Twenty centuries have come and gone, and today He is the central figure of the human race. I am well within the mark when I say that all the armies that ever marched, all the navies that ever sailed, all the parliaments that ever sat, all the kings that ever reigned -put together -have not affected the life of man on this earth as much as that one, solitary life.
“I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God. That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic - on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg - or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.” - CS LEWIS
“Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance, the only thing it cannot be is moderately important.” ― C.S. Lewis.
@@dinxpe6592
Nobody cares what C.S Lewis thinks about existence, he is not any kind of authority on the matter.
Whoever the character in the bible story is is really not as relevant as the beginnings of it all and the underlying back story, the one about a so called supreme being that acts out like a 2 year old, commits mass genocide on one hand, mental torture on the other, demands obedience while claiming to offer free will, involves himself in messy blood battles which result in colateral deaths of bystanders, and so many many more utterly psychotic deeds.
Yet you’re all about Jesus.. Hmm, one really has to twist all concept of right and wrong and what bit of that book is the most relevant to do that. The most relevant thing in that book is that oh so kind and sweet Jesus is the front man to a MONSTER.
Good job it’s all utter rubbish.
@@osogrande4999 I don't just want to assume things, but are you an atheist?
@@dinxpe6592 I don’t subscribe to any label.
Do I believe in your God of the bible? Absolute not, that book is objectively ridiculous in so many ways.
Do I imagine there ‘may’ be a higher form of consciousness? Sure, I’m one, there are probably others more evolved than me.
I imagine many things that might exist but I don’t hang myself on any belief.
Usually the next thing a Theist imagines is that I therefore believe in ‘science’ as if that were something to believe in, no, that neither. I simply observe and make rational connections and decide if something makes rational sense given my capacity to reason and the facts I can observe.
Here's the logic, "I feel special and privileged, therefore I am special and privileged."
It's strange, but I have very vivid memories of checking the Year Book for the numbers on how many Anointed Ones were left. How was I able to do that? Oh yeah, because they realised that they'd all died and had to move the goalposts, just like they did with the "generation."
"Mental or emotional imbalance." Funny how they left out "delusional." What if Lett is delusional?
The haircut suits you sir. I think Mr Lett is the funniest man on earth /heaven. Can you imagine him in charge.
Would explain the flat earth model.
Funny sure but still dangerous. 😐
As far as in know the GB still does the rotating chairmanship, they just are decoupled from the presidency
Yeah it makes Lloyd look younger imo.
@A Y the aliens would go back and have a negative impression of humans.
"Anointed" just means smeared with oil. If your face is greasy, you're anointed.
As I understand it, in a JW home the husband is expected to be head of household. Okay, fair enough. But... what if the wife is anointed and the husband isn't? Does this change the dynamic?
As an elder, I once had a person who claimed to be anointed come to me because they did not want to partake at the memorial. The reason was this person was not white and had also grown up in the congregation and there were people who are older than the person. It amounted to emotional persecution. And so I chose to celebrate the memorial with them 30 days later, as watchtower allows for certain emergencies. After I left, a white person who said they were anointed was trying to get me to come back. I related that story to them, and they were certain that the person I'd help was not really anointed because they should have taken it at the memorial. And yet apparently, that person's certainty should be all of our certainty.
A couple years before I left the organization, I truely believed I was of the anointed. It wasn't until I listened to various accounts and testimonies of people having religious experiences outside of Jehovah's Witnesses, that helped me become more grounded in understanding what was going on in my head. I can say being away from that environment has helped me be more grounded in reality and has helped me make better decisions in life that benefit me and the people around me.
Excellent very happy that you able to see and be smart in this situation, no many people able to comprehend where they are and what to do
I'm anointed....at least I think I am 'cos I hear the voices but I keep on bossing people about anyway.
Then how do you explain anointed ones that have been disfellowshiped or have quit being a jw?
I'm guessing most witnesses would say such ones fell victim to Satan and therefore need/needed to be replaced. Sounds like a witness response no?
How do you explain Peter rejecting Jesus on the night of his arrest. Peer pressure. If your GB member your safe, but if your not, and most anointed are not, your a target even by your own. I was in a Kingdom Hall where there were 40 partackers, l know. 😱
2020 memorial we the emblems!!! We were allowed to but we aren't far from annoited. Crazyyy right?
Damn that’s crazyyy !!!
I'm an atheist. And at first I would ask myself why would people invest time talking against religion. But now I realize that it's not exactly against religion, it's more a fight against ignorance. Thank you for this channel and for all your contribution in favor of critical thinking and knowledge. I wish the world was more in line with channels like these. Thank you so much!!
@clarence stoddard What?? 😄 Belief is not exactly a choice. It's more a conclusion you arrive to. I can't just believe in a religion or deity. You gotta proove your argument. So far, there's Zero proof.
If you were anointed you would not be a Jehovah witness. The Holy Spirit does not guide a person into false doctrine!!!
#bottomline
if the guiding is done by a "Holy Spirit," then false doctrine is all that it can get to...
Look how he shakes when he says KNOWLEDGE , KNOWLEDGE, he must be saying with so much conviction , it must be true.
I'll have to go back and check it out. When Lett is on I seriously try not to look.
OMG - yep, looks like he was poked with a cattle prod.
Yeah, I noticed that. He almost came.
I appreciate this video so much. I've been out since 2007 but the nagging thoughts still linger. The way we were taught about the governing body in that you trust them without question. So thinking they were anointed was never questioned in my mind. I've been watching you for a few years now, and seeing these men for what they are, which are con men, absolutely nothing special about them. It's hilarious listening to them, there pompous, all knowing attitudes, and knowing they are nothing! I listened to them, let them guide my life for so many years, well I'm in charge now. I personally still believe in a higher power, whatever you want to call it, but I'm in control of my life. For good for bad its my life. Freedom!!!
Well said Elizabeth!
Being commanded to trust others "without question" leads nowhere good. It allows one to be completely manipulated, disempowered and abused. Perfect for the malignant narcissist/sociopaths that run cults and are drunk on power, money and sex.
Every time I see and hear Stephen Lett I cannot help but be reminded of Marshall Applewhite.
Can anyone please let me know what the music is at the end of the video is please.
Thank You 😊
Anointing is affirmative! Leaving no doubt in the person!
Unless that person happens to have a “mental imbalance” of course...
So.....all of them?
Lett makes me get stomach cramps and gas. Let me anoint him with my own active force.
Ah yes, the scariest of the old cult leaders, Mr. Lett.
I was raised a JW and left 2+ decades ago. Revisiting their content 25 years later, I'm so struck about how patronizing their tone is and how simplistic and infantile their positions are. They communicate like they are speaking to small children. Clearly, they don't hold their people in very high esteem intellectually, or perhaps they use this time intentionally to keep people in an infantile intellectual state.
I was brought up as a JW in the early sixties in a small town in Northern Britain. At the Memorial one brother took the wine, but it always make me wonder that over the years and the congregations over the world there must be more than 144.000 Witnesses believing they were the chosen few. The mathematics do not add up, especially now that we are 60 years down the line.
Yes, most congregations back then had at least one, even in to the eighties, and that’s just Britain. Earlier congregations had masses. This is supposed to go back to the early christians? Like you say, it doesn’t add up.
The problem they have with more partakers is really cultural. Back in the day most of us didn't want to be different or stand out and that played into the mindset that we were not special enough to be of the "anointed class . Today, everyone thinks they are special and so they claim the heavenly hope.
I have a list of the 144,000 anointed ones and it seems to add up to 144,008.
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I guess that eight people are going straight to Gehenna! 🤣😁🤪
well what happens after steavens lett had 5 glasses of irish whiskey he stood in front of a mirror and a demon appared behind him and says when you expire you are coming with me.
The demon will likely return him, since he wont be able to put up with his craziness.
This is the Ultimate 'Because I said so.' I can't believe I ever actively participated and trusted in this nonsense.
10:00 *"If you have to ask, then you're not annointed".* Yep, note how it's all about *CONFIDENCE.*
This should set off alarm bells for people, because such Confidence is routinely used to trick & hook people in with shams. It's literally where we get the phrase *CONman* from, it's original form refers to a "Confidence-Man". As a social species, we humans we are psychologically hardwired to believe in people that show confidence, and we spend a lot of our educational time essentially learning strategies to protect ourselves from this and many other of our oh-so-troublesome cognitive biases.
I wonder if the governing body have to talk about this subject because their members are starting to question things? How many times can you call The End and be wrong, and still have followers put trust in you?
For all eternity u can make the claim and still have gullible people fall for it. 200 yrs from now they will claim they never stated 1914 as the beginning of the last days and that its just apostate driven lies and the members will fall for it.
He's in for a HUGE disappointment if he thinks he's going to rule in heaven with Jesus !
Well said
HUGH disappointment? How'd y'a know? Did Jesus himself tell you something different? Did you know Jesus now lives in Australia? He's married to Mary Magdalene and they are living happily. He has no plans to go to heaven any time soon.
@@sos1691 What you are saying doesn't make any sense
It will be a HUGE LETTDOWN....LOL
@@lesliethompson5218 Is ANY bible claim valid? If you say, yes, then anything Lett says is also valid. Unless and until Jesus tells you differently, any Christian claim is credible. Even the Jesus of Australia. Without sound evidence otherwise, judge not lest you be judged. Sound familiar? Love "...bears all things and believes all things..." [ 1 Corinthians 13 ] Hope this helps you.
The JW Memorial service is one of the most bizarre services I’ve ever witnessed. As a Christian I couldn’t help but think they are passing “the bread of life” right on by. Lett is one of the most bizarre communicators I’ve ever seen.
I remember one of the 'anointed' coming to dinner at my parents when the circuit overseer was visiting.
I went into school on the monday bragging to the kids I met someone going to heaven.
If I could time travel I'd go back and give my child self a massive slap.
But what is, according to Jehovah's witnesses, going to heaven from the 144.000? They don't believe they have a soul, so what is going up into heaven?
I celebrate the memorial in my home, I understand the scripture is we are all suppose to partake , I don’t accept that we are not to from reading the scriptures, my conscience tells me to partake so I’m following my heart I just don’t know what to Don with unleavened bread. I use crackers and red wine I hope it’s ok
This is a typical Watchtower trait.
As you say there is no scripture telling you not to partake.
As there is no scripture telling you not to celebrate birthdays.
No Scripture telling you not to celebrate Christmas.
No scripture telling you about blood fractions.
ITS ALL WATCHTOWER`S INTERPRETATION!!!!
Its not scriptural
@@peterjohnson1046 I read jesus saying to partake, he did not say only a few, he said everyone I am everyone
I job he makes a sacrifice for his children incase they have sinned, in that part in the start of job, he speaks of all his children celebrating their day( birthday) but never studied at talks that even job celebrated birthdays
@@RitaMalikfour Yes Rita, you are correct.
I was angry recently at the Caleb and Sofia video regarding birthdays.
His Dad tells him Jehovah is SAD that you celebrated a birthday and Jehovah HATES birthdays!!!
Firstly, how can anyone decide the emotions of a spirit creature and where does it say he hates birthhdays?
It doesn`t. Watchtowers presumption , because people died at 2 birthday celebrations.
If the Watchtower wants to use that logic, if the Bible mentioned 2 weddings where people died, would they then not get married, or say Jehovah hates weddings?
And really. I promise you Jehovah will NOT HATE you for using crackers instead of leavened bread, especially as you won`t be partaking of them unless a voice in your head tells you to do so in the next week.
The actual act of NOT partaking is copying a Black Mass practised by Satanists who perform the same ceremony by rejecting the flesh and blood of Christ.
And finally, do any of these governing body members say when and where they were anointed?
I left this cult 20 years ago this year and I can say I`m anointed, prove me wrong!
You can`t. Just as much as they can`t prove they are.
It`s all one huge con from a billion dollar business.
By the way, may I ask if you`re having doubts over the religion as you are posting on an apostate website?
Regards Andy
@@peterjohnson1046 I use to doubt, but boy now, I believe satan is running this watchtower, I despise it, and all the secrets as if Jehovah can’t see what that are up to and as far as making it to the paradise, heaven or earth, the bible says we are judged by our heart not religion I must have been so brainwashed but after reasearchi g I saw this was another false religion, I can’t fi d anywhere in the bible Jehovah’s witnesses but I can find Christians , that’s good enough fir me, abd I follow what hesys says, I tried to read a few scriptures to my j dub family and they got so angry cause I didn’t read it from the watchtower, somehow they think the watchtower is better then the bible
I just found out that my brother started partaking last year. He thinks he's one of the annointed.
Another narcissist
Did you tell him to quit “wining”?
@@osogrande4999 he's been baptized for the past 55 years and that's the first time he ever partook. I was really surprised. He's been an elder for about 45 years.
@@maybethistime1460 It was just a pun, whine/wine, but yes I can see it’s a distressing thing for you to see happen to your brother. I hope all works out ok.
@@osogrande4999 I knew what you meant. Just worried about his mental health now.
Doh, of Heaven’s Gate, has possessed Letts’s soul.
I want to say that from this statement I'm anointed too....because I've got knowledge from God ,and I've got message from God "Walk with true God " .So organization should be to help people to Walk with true God ,not to worship to. governing body. So this is knowledge I've got ...do you think I'm anointed ??
Thank you Loyd!!
He's got what we Irish call "notions" 🙄
I’m Irish too 👋🏼
That's a new ABBA song!
If he’s the greatest communicator, then why the need to follow up later with “new light”?
I can’t believe I used to believed this stupidness 🙈😔
Yea, but you don’t know… Respect
3:31..I aslo noticed that his ring is moved to side...Hiding something? Maybe blue masonic ring?
What of the “anointed” one who got kicked out of the governing body recently?
He says 'fatefulness' instead of 'faithfulness'. I've noticed him doing this numerous times before.
If the basis of being annointed is that YOU know for certain without a doubt then it should be nobody's place to say whether you are or not. And therefore anyone partaking should be counted in the "144K" or is it that they realize their foundation of this number makes no sense and is easily discredited when they consider the number of partakers fluctuates annually? 🤔🍞🍷
Why does Lett keep saying " he" ? "He" will know if " he" is annointed? What about " they" or " she" ??? Ooooh 😡 the misogyny is strong with this one.
Keep in mind, they believe all anointed will be male in heaven
@@nickkladky8396 yeah, its so degrading to women and children, sad.
and say, where do you buy that ointment for anointing...walgreens?
When I was a child I would fall asleep at night crying because I “felt like I was anointed “. I felt different, like certain sorts of logic just came to me. I understood things immediately that others had to work hard to learn. For example every time they announced “new light” for an understanding of a scripture, I was like, “wait, when did we think it meant THAT?” It made me sad because I wasn’t going to live with my loved ones in paradise on earth with the animals.
Fast forward to my 30s. I guess I am “anointed” because now I know things beyond the JW understanding that they work hard to avoid learning. I let that ability lead me to research more about what my instincts were telling me. And I don’t get to be with my loved ones, or live on a paradise earth, just for different reasons. 🤷🏼♀️
It is amazing how Jehovah makes being anointed clear cut and without any doubt but yet when it comes to the teachings they spew out they change over time as the “light gets brighter?” The Great communicator?
Lett looks a lot like Marshall Applewhite.
I always thought that. Many find his expressions enduring, but I always found them creepy. We met him one time at a convention. Everyone flocked around him like a superstar. Weird
@Beowulf791 agreed
I remember asking this very question to the sister I was studying with and she said “you feel it “ and I told her I feel it and she was like “nah” I was like 👁👀, how do you know?” I was 13 studying the “what does God require of us “brochure
Correct me if I’m wrong but, looking at the names of the members of the entire governing body it seems like they’re all American, is there any record of any Asian or Latino?
So the holy spirit made a mistake anointing Ray Franz? Why would Jehovah allow this to happen? He didn't tell the other GB this would happen. They had no "knowledge."