Removing Rust with Electrolysis - WOOD magazine
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- Simple rust removal technique for hand tools and small metal items using a battery charger. Find lots more woodworking information from the world's leading woodworking magazine at www.woodmagazine.com/
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You can make your own Washing Soda too. Washing Soda (Na2CO3) is just Baking Soda (NaHCO2) that has had it's Carbon Dioxide (co2) heated away. The reason cooks use Baking Soda in baking is that during the heating process the Soda releases it's co2 which helps give baked goods that light and fluffy texture. Anyway, you can spread your Baking Soda (sodium bicarbonate) out in a baking pan place it in a 400 degree oven for an hour and you'll have Washing Soda (sodium carbonate).
Appreciate, thanks!
Thanks Moo
Thanks!
Or if it's in solution, heating it to boiling point is enough to convert it. Just be careful of the fizzing.
*Just use washing soda. It's cheap enough, so why bother making it?*
Regarding the holes in the tub, keep in mind the displacement based upon the size of the item you submerge.
Hi Sir. U r the first person to give the details of the process in real detail.. thanks for that. Keep ur videos coming..
I agree. This was the best video for beginners I have found. Thanks
After watching the video advert i was still skeptical. But when i finally downloaded the plans th-cam.com/users/postUgkxZF0EMnrujZvqHhGkxiz559uIABJWR9TG i was very impressed. The whole plan was just as you said in the video. Thank you very much. I now have a large and valuable collection for my woodworks. This is great!
One point on using rebar as an anode.It usually has a scale coating from manufacturing that needs to be wire-wheeled off to perform at it's best.Also,for that large of a tank and using 4 anodes,the 10 amp would work better.Lastly,put about a cup of regular baking soda in that large a tank will help alot,and a little TSP(trisodiumphosphate)helps make the black slime easier to remove from the parts.Hope this helps!
Thank you for such a clear explanation on how to restore vintage pieces. It's been many decades since learning this in high school chemistry class, so your details (none the least being safety) are much appreciated.
Definite 'like' as well as great appreciation. Zero click bait with fully detailed information. An unfortunate rarity. Thanks for getting to the point and sticking to it 👍!!
A few years ago I restored a full set of Bedrock planes. I carefully and relentlessly looked for Bedrock rusty junk parts until I had all the parts needed. I electrolysed everything, ensured the iron was fully dried (it IS porous), re japanned with the real japan (not paint) and replaced totes and knobs with new ones to exact dimensions made from rosewood. The only thing not made by Stanley, apart from totes and knobs, are the Hock cutters. The set (#602 through #608) is in regular bench use and are awesome. If you use this electrolysis process on cast iron I do recommend some time in a warm electric oven (not gas) to thoroughly dry the iron. You don’t want moisture trapped in the pores and then Japan over it. I used washing soda just like this video suggests and a 12 volt battery charger. I live in Houston and in the summer I laid a 12 volt computer cooling fan on top of the charger just to help the cooling along by sucking air up through the charger. Worked great. There is real satisfaction bringing a set of planes back to full productive life.
Suggestion: Put a couple notches (dados) on the bottom of the wood "plank" to catch the edges of the tub. Serves a couple purposes: Keeps the wood from getting knocked into the tub. Also helps reinforce the thin tub walls against the pressure from the water.
Excellent video - many thanks - plain and easy to understand and NO advertising!!! A refreshing change!
Hi Lucas, I sometimes restore Lionel trains. Your video and method will make my job simple for removing rust.
Thank you for posting,
Sal
Great video! Most of the videos I have watched on this are fifteen or more minutes long and are filled with questionable information. There are some good ones, but this is the best by far. Thank you for clear and direct presentation and cautions. Earned a sub!!!
you are right on overly long vids . Guess some people just like to hear themselves talk . Or they think they are getting paid by the word
Thank you for your video, I didn't realise about the chromium leeching from stainless, didn't even consider it.
you've helped me be a little more environmentally conscious and probably helped my health.
How did you dispose of the water?
@@adopeonarope I never tried to make HHO, so no waste to try to dispose of.
if I were to try it, I think I'd go the carbon plate solution.
Very concise and well presented. Thank you for the information.
Great video!! When i saw this technique about remove the rust from the metals, i tried in my home. I have and old water pump and was rusty so i tried to remove it from the water pump and i left to work out 12 hours until the next day! In the morning, i umpluged the electricity from the tank and see hows going the water pump! After that i brushed it with an metal brush and remove the last rust with bunch of water! The result was amazing! It cleans everything on that water pump and i painted first with anti rust paint and then i painted with black!
Im really proud to find out a good technique that take the rust from the metal!! Im using this technique each time that i need it!!
Just in case you are checking your site I thought you might like to know I copied your setup exactly. I even found the plastic tub at Home Depot and it is exactly like yours It works great. Thanks for the information.
Great explanation and demonstration of the setup! Thank you so much.
Great vid, better than many I've seen online about the process. Thanks.
I copied this setup to remove rust from a Revolutionary War era stirrup I found while metal detecting. Worked great! Thanks for the easy to follow instructions!
Great video!!! Thanks for posting it. This will be soooooo much better than dealing with any quantity of acid based rust removers.
You're a good teacher, mate. Well done.
Built one last night based on your video and it works GREAT. Thanks!!!
Greetings from Devon in the UK.
Just wanted to thank you for this.
So informative and helpful.
Take care
This is the first video of its type that has given me the confidence to want to build my own e-tank! Thanks so much! Excellent presentation!
A very informative vid. Very well explained and a great help. Thank you.
Great video., very detailed. I’m making mine this week. Thank you!
i liked your video very much and i hope that you keep on making such useful videos
Thanks LUCAS!!!!!!!!
I particularly like the simplicity of this setup. Planning to use this setup to de-rust a number of tools and parts.
i think i found all the info i need thanks. especially for addressing the safety issues.
Very informative. Well done.
I would have enjoyed seeing the plane closeup. Most of us enjoy seeing the final product.
Excellent video. Professional and proper!
Great video and easy to understand. Very detailed also. Thanks.
Thanks for the Info. Very good presentations Liked it very much thanks Again Dave
Easy way to remember is the part turns the same colour as the electrical point. Sacrificial anode (red) creates red rust. Cathode (black) turns conected part black (which is what you want).
This is such a good tip! I made an account just to say thanks haha
thank you so so much
after about a year, I've finally gathered all the gear necessary to make my own eletrolisys tank
and it work, solely because of your assembling guide
you sir is a godsend
A year..oh boy. Glad you managed to finish your build in Venezuela
Excellent video. Thank you.
awesome DIY video. Very easy setup thank you.
Just realized this was ten years ago. Nice I like the fact that you have the anodes on all four side. Great job
Thank you for sharing.
As the video says, this process has the same danger as charging a lead acid battery in a closed environment. The explosion can be quite spectacular, as a friend found out to his cost when he got acid sprayed all over his face. Great point about the hexavalent chromium, also.
great video thanks
I was looking up videos on rusting foothold traps and came across this. I don't need to remove rust but im glad I watched it and learned something
Cool Video. These are reasons why i love TH-cam and the Internet.
Excellent video!
great video! thank you!
Thanks for the video. made it just like your instructions. Did a great job of removing very thick rust. the only thing I wasn't sure of was the water temp. I used warm water since i was working out side and it was pretty chilly.
Thanks to this video, I successfully de-rusted many of my things. This works perfectly and includes excellent tips. BUT - I HAVE A TIP. This video shows the metal objects suspended in the water, but this is not necessary. The tub is plastic, thus non-conductive. I had some heavy components that I laid on the bottom. Just because, I laid them so they were not completely 'flat' on the bottom (I tipped them with a scrap piece of wood). Those components were wired. Then on top of the big pieces, I placed loads of rusty miscellaneous pieces, even rusty allen wrenches and drill bits. Because all of the pieces were touching each other, current flowed through all of the components and all of them were de-rusted. The only requirement is to make sure the center "pile" is below the water line and not touching any of the positive anodes. I would imagine that if one were to do this regularly, it would be possible to create a steel grid to lay on the bottom and have that wired, then lay objects on top of the grid. Note: I believe this works better than Evaporust. Evapo will score polished surfaces, whereas this process will not.
I believe suspending is more for easy removal of the piece? I haven't tried this yet so I'm just guessing. Pretty sure you're right about the wired grid, think I saw a video somewhere of a commercial set-up like that. You're "pile" method sounds like it works well for multiple items. Thanks for the tips.
If I'm doing a large piece that can't be fully submerged, is there any reason why the part couldn't be partially submerged and when completed, flipped and done again?
@@joshoooway I see no reason why not. Submerging area(s) common to two or more sessions should not have a negative result, but there might be the possibility of "water lines". If this idea helps, note that you can make your own tub using large sheet plastic with the sides supported by a frame or walls or objects of some type.
Cool, has applications with old engine restorations as well, good info.
nice vid...like the 2amp trickle charge! Like how you made your tank! good info on NOT using SS! appreciate the Video!
Great show. Thanks
Good info, better than others I have watched.
Great video, thanks a lot. I build my own and it works great. Greetings from the Netherlands
great video, been using your method for years.
Good video, thank you!
An oldie but a goodie video. Great explanation!!👍😎👍
Second time to view your video, first several years ago. Thank you again.
Excellent solution. Going to try it right now
Excellent video.
Thanx for a great lesson!
Thank you so much
Great information. Thank you
Great video, great information with just the right amount of technical information. My only suggestion would be a quick before and after picture, for the curious fellows.
Thank you sir, been wanting to do this for a while now. 🤛🏻
Really well explained,thanks
Well described , It is helpful too for removal of rust from various tools and apparatus and can be reused !
great video! thanks
Learned, thank you!
So incredibly useful
Thank you, really helpfull, all the data about byproducts was priceless.
Beautifully didactic and explained.
As Peter Griffin would say, "It was not shallow and pedantic."
Modern battery chargers require a 12-volt battery turn on. A cart or car battery is placed in parallel with the charger. Also a product like Pickles 20 used after the electrolysis tank will remove any fine rust and provide a coating to prevent flash rusting.
Good video on rust removal.
Why does he remind me of dexter lol This video is very calming for some reason. Loved it, thank you sir.
Can the wire used to suspend the object be galvanized wire? Will it give off any toxins or cause the object being derusted to be coated with a thin coat of zinc?
This is a great video.
That’s amazing. I looked this up to remove rust from the exact hand plane you have in the video. There’s no markings on mine. Can you tell me the model of your plane? Paul
This reaction works line of site. This 4 anode setup takes that into account. Nice.
Very educational thank you
Thank you for another great video!
I do try to watch a couple different videos before I try a un familiar build. Sometimes using different methods to work with what I have/need. These differences are usually obvious to me.
Since I'm no scientist I hoped you could help me save trial-and-error time and tell me what solution to use since I have seen the tank filled with a part distilled Malt vinegar, salt and then mostly water.
Why vinegar? why salt? Or why not?
Which is most effective? I know salt will help to cunduct electricity but that is about the extent of of what I get.
I like 100% of this build & will just scaled-down & go with what you have done.
What do I fill it with to get the job done best?
Thanks for your help & to all who help by commenting on my question.
I was using this method 40 years ago on rusted car parts - brake disks, etc.
Well hell fire..you want a cookie?
Great video
Thank you
Very well presented the other video's do not talk about the test lead connections I forgot which lead you attached to your rusted object. very nice job Dave
Hi. Great informal video. Also wondered how it was done and you make it look so simple..
Probably a dumb question... will this also work on pitted spanners and sockets?... im not sure if the shiny appearance to these tools are a coating or not and therefore will it affect the solution etc etc.
Apologies for my ignorance. Thanks
Great video! What wire gauge should I use? Thanks.
Thanks for the information. does the wire go all the way around on the iron rods , or go on like a u shape?. and the channel that sent me here . he said that you use a lot of amp's you use only 2 amps?. I'm going to try this as soon as i can . thanks.
Totally going to make this
Great video. Now that I know how to do this I'll be cleaning up some old tools. Thanks!
Thanks. This helped me with my GCSE Chemistry ISA. @Wood
Thank you for the great video. Do you prefer this to glassbead blasting?
hi..thanks for your video. I learned something new today. .. you're awesome (in case no one told you today.) have a blessed day and much loves.
a salaam peace سلام
cool video, im going to make one of these for gun parts. i built one of these just for rifle bores. thanks for sharing.
Hey sir, what a great job you have done showing us how to build an electrolysis tank. I do have one question for you though the only wire that I could find to hang my project from inside the tank is galvanized steel picture hanging wire. Is there any problem with doing this? Many regards, Rusty Walker.
Hi Russell, I'm currently trying to do this 2 years later and ran into the same question (still can't find the answer), did you ever get an answer about what wire to use and where to buy it?
Awesome - we like it ☺
Thanks to this video I am in the process of restoring not one but two cast iron dutch ovens with lids. It will no doubt take awhile since the rust is thick as they have been in the weather for years. I found this video to "demystify" the electrolysis process and the tank construction easy to follow. My 32 gal tank with 24 gallons of water is working and bubbling as I write. The toughest part is the wait for the results. I like the idea of multiple anodes.
How did the oven look after it finished? Did it achieve the results you were looking for?
I know you think it's messy but is it a good idea to use copper anodes and coat the item with copper to prevent further rust?
I am restoring my grandpas old plane. Thank you for the video
Also wanted to know, since I realize now that galvanized steel would start to break down when submerged, what kind of cathode wire did you use? The only non-galvanized steel options I've found online to buy have been annealed steel and high carbon steel. Is there any specific type of steel you would recommend that would be able to be submerged a bit when holding nuts and bolts?
He's a woodpecker, not a metallurgist.
Very good sir.
It should. A buddy just got into motorcycle parts salvaging and he swears by this method. Until I saw this video I'd forgotten about it. I now recall him saying it was super easy with great results. :-)
Wow!!☺️thnx for the info👍😀