Catholic Book Reviews | Angelus Press Missal

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  • @dsonyay
    @dsonyay 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    What’s great about the Latin Mass is this Mass form has been done since as early at late 100 AD (or maybe very early 200AD) and has had minor revisions over a few centuries.. the Mass of the Centuries. Such a historical rite. The Novos Ordo is in its infancy.
    I grew up in the Latin Mass to about age 9. Was Baptized pre Vatican 2, but from the First Communion onwards- Novus Ordo. I remember (barely) attending Latin Mass. started going to Latin Mass again during late 90s at a Diocese in Virginia (authorized) and then again in Louisiana recently when we moved here. I too attend both Rites. TLM is incredibly reverent.. especially a high Mass.
    I l advise people that are not used to the Latin mass to not bother using a missal for a few visits just so that they can soak in the beauty the smells and the sounds - use your senses to participate in the mass for a while, and then gradually incorporate either the pew missal or your own. TLM is a beautiful historical Mass. Seek one out if not in your diocese.. or an Eastern Rite as well. :)

    • @austinkent8811
      @austinkent8811 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That history is just objectively false, the average 7th century Roman would think a good Latin NO is more familiar than a TLM

    • @TheRomanOrthodox
      @TheRomanOrthodox 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@austinkent8811 So is that one. I figure that a 7th century Roman would probably feel more at home in an Eastern Orthodox Church. Sure, there would be some differences, but generally adaptable. The new liturgy would be so insipid, watered-down, etc. to them that they would wonder if it was Christian at all.
      That said, all liturgies do change. If under the correct spirit of tradition, those changes happen slowly and are faithful to the original. If not, then by bureaucratic wrangling, artificiality, and rupture.

    • @austinkent8811
      @austinkent8811 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheRomanOrthodox uh we have the Ordo Romano primus extant, which is the 7th-8th century Papal liturgy that was sent to Gaul and then heavily adapted with Gallican rite influences before making its way back to Rome. It looks nothing like an Orthodox liturgy, but very much like the NO.
      Which makes sense given it was the baseline from which the NO was drawing. The reality is that the Roman liturgy has always been extremely simple in comparison to the Eastern rites, which is part of the Roman character.

    • @TheRomanOrthodox
      @TheRomanOrthodox 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@austinkent8811 I have read the Ordo Romanus Primus, and it has no such similarity to the Novus Ordo. It has quite a bit of similarity to the Eastern rites, with some differences being understood and others that have developed later in the Eastern Rites. (For example, the ectenia, or Kyrie, follow on an antiphon, with the collect after that, which is observed in the Eastern Rites, but the West interjected the Major Doxology, which the East makes the last part of Orthros.) In any case, I was not suggesting that the Ordos were the same, just that a person from that time would feel far more at home in an Eastern Liturgy, where all the elements would have been there, rather than the Novus Ordo (or TLM for that matter). I will leave aside the description of the various rituals surrounding the "loaves" from the Ordo Romanus, which only the Eastern Liturgies observe, albeit in different formats.

    • @austinkent8811
      @austinkent8811 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheRomanOrthodox if you’ve read the Ordo Romanus Primus then I’m honestly baffled by your statement. It looks basically nothing like an Eastern liturgy, other than the general similarities all liturgical families have.
      The Ordo follows almost exactly the same lines as the NO: introit, kyrie, Gloria, which was already there at the time, collect, readings, etc. which is quite different from the Eastern liturgies.
      I think you would be hard pressed to find a single liturgical historian who would find your take even remotely plausible. The average Roman at the time would find a modern Eastern liturgy to be nothing like what they’re used to, but a chanted Latin NO would be extremely familiar.

  • @PiusPaladin
    @PiusPaladin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This missal is by far the best for the 1962 TLM. It is essentially the exact same as the Baronius Press version but contains the ritual for all seven sacraments which I found invaluable. It is also less bulky. Wield this with a St. Andrew Missal and your set to be a rad trad cat.

  • @dsonyay
    @dsonyay 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A great missal as well-- what got me watching these videos on missals is I discovered a very old missal I own (picked up at a used book store years ago for 50 cents) and then shelved at hime. It’s a 1951 Father Stedman Sunday Missal. It is in very delicate condition- at the time I wasnt going to Latin Masses but wanted to buy it so it would be safe from being stuck in an old store and possibly tossed in a trash can.
    Plenty are on ebay (pretty cheap). A nice version to have as a collectable I would suppose - many go back into the 1940s. Some are in great shape too.

  • @markleviner2540
    @markleviner2540 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love my Missal!!! very good quality!!! Been going to Latin Mass at lot. We have a Church does Latin Mass Sunday 1pm. Go to confession 12:30 then Mass at one. Fellowship in lobby after Mass. We have a pot luck meal last sunday of Mass. Even more fellowship. You have such a good feeling. Go and read before Jesus spent his time. If you get lost its ok. Jesus. God. Mother Mary. Will fill your contrite Heart. Try Try Peace Out and Love. MMLZZZ Ask new friends they are very helpful.

    • @ConvincedCatholicism
      @ConvincedCatholicism  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sounds like the parish is a great community. God bless

  • @justinreany1514
    @justinreany1514 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is my favorite 1962 Roman Missal overall. Others have points they excell in but aren't an overall package. I love the Baronius Press Missal leather but it's layout (print) bothered me for some reason. But it was a close runner-up for me behind Angelus Press. Another runner-up that I liked is the New Marian Missal. I know the Fr. Lasance Missal is used by many but it was a brick and more than I needed for attendance of the TLM and basic devotions. But the Angelus is laid out so well and so streamlined. So functional too. And, it was put together by the standard bearers of the traditional movement - SSPX!

    • @ConvincedCatholicism
      @ConvincedCatholicism  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You make an interesting point about the Father Lasance. I have yet to review it. But who wants to carry a huge brick like that to mass?

    • @justinreany1514
      @justinreany1514 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ConvincedCatholicism you can immediately spot someone who carries it to Mass. It is so apparent. Hey...if it works for them, it works for them. Everyone has their own standards and needs. Just happy they are going to TLM.

  • @violetanavarrete8612
    @violetanavarrete8612 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i have the Angelus Press cowhide edition and it’s by far one of my missal because i do have the Father Lassance edition, don’t get me wrong Father Lassance is superior but it’s easier to manage in your hand with the angelus press

  • @PaulFloresPhotography
    @PaulFloresPhotography 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This missal like the Baronius Press missal does not have the 1955 Holy Week. The only Sunday missal I have seen with both Holy Weeks is the Campion Missal 3rd edition

  • @JOsh-qc6rt
    @JOsh-qc6rt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hello, is there a Spanish version of this? Please my mom loves going to TLM but she prefer reading in Spanish

  • @justin_messer
    @justin_messer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Of the TLM missals you’ve reviewed, what is your favorite?

    • @ConvincedCatholicism
      @ConvincedCatholicism  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The two I reviewed are VERY similar. As silly as it is, I like the feel of Angelus Press better

  • @TheRomanOrthodox
    @TheRomanOrthodox 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Before I became Orthodox, the Angelus Press missal was my usual Missal for years, but then I switched to the St. Andrew Missal because it had the older Holy Week liturgy. Angelus Press uses the "new" restored liturgy.

  • @JH_Phillips
    @JH_Phillips 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is for the TLM and not the Novus Ordo, right? If so, what would be the equivalent missal for the Novus Ordo?

    • @ConvincedCatholicism
      @ConvincedCatholicism  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is for the TLM. The equivalent would be the St Paul Daily Missal

    • @JH_Phillips
      @JH_Phillips 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ConvincedCatholicism have you done a video on that one?

    • @violetanavarrete8612
      @violetanavarrete8612 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@JH_Phillips i have the Daily Roman Missal, it’s a bit bulky but it’s worth it.

    • @ConvincedCatholicism
      @ConvincedCatholicism  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes

    • @PiusPaladin
      @PiusPaladin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Just to add to the chorus of responses for the Midwest Theological Forum Daily Roman Missal, it is by far the best "trad" Novus Ordo Missal.

  • @Kings0375
    @Kings0375 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This one I have and like, but I prefer the Baronius Press Missal

    • @ConvincedCatholicism
      @ConvincedCatholicism  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would love to know why! Thanks for the input

    • @allinysiqueira4088
      @allinysiqueira4088 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What is the reason for this preference?