I love watching old X-plane videos. They're even more interesting in a language I can understand. Sorry I'm American. I only speak 1 language. American ;) Although i wish i had learned Spanish and German at an early age.
@theofficialstig The pilot controlled it with vectored engine thrust and small jets at the wingtips. This was one of several experimental aircraft in the 50's that should investigate the possibility to design a fighter that could take off and land vertically, without the need of airfields or big aircraft cruisers. None resulted in a "tailsitting" production aircraft. Check X-13, XFV-1 and XFY-1 on wikipedia.
I think there was a similar aircraft (Goblin?) that was tiny like the X13, and it was built to be dropped from the belly of a B-29 and then pull back under the belly to re-hook itself in. That plane failed too because there was too much air turbulence under the bomber and it could not re-hook itself. I loved the good old days of experimental aircraft. There were dozens of experimental aircraft, the result of which were a small number of aircraft that actually worked.
reminded me of that turboprop one called the 'flying pogo' looked like something off those crazy 60's science fiction films. i wonder what those guys would have made of the JSF now lol
@kirktalon the basic design of the vectored thrust engine used in the Harrier was the Idea of a frenchman, he proposed it to an U.S. air force idea competition in the 1950's. the concept was distributed amonst the Nato Nations aeronautical community & Rolls-Royce decided to try & develope it. it eventually matured into the Pagasus engine used in the AV-8A & AV-8B Harrier.
Wow. They should nickname that thing the Bee, or the Wasp. It's so dinky, look how small it is; still very powerful to be able to hover vertically. Pretty cool.
@mivhoa we gave you such ideas to make you busy ;-) I think it was more the control system what was of interest instead of the payload to this x13. having a mobile interceptor anywhere would be the goal at that time. god thanks we were not that successful. @jannej312 thanks for the upload!
TogieTung: The design of the Pegasus engine was originally the idea of Frenchman, Michel Wibault - not an "Eastern European." Wibault filed the patent for a jet engine whose exhaust was directed through two jet pipes which could be swivelled horizontally or vertically. As the French government was not interested, Wibault sold the idea to the British company Bristol, who bought the license for it. They modified Wibault's engine and produced the Pegasus turbojet which used four swivelling jets.
I like how they just "hang the airplane on a hook" at the end, like it was a garden tool in the shed or the garage. Honestly, though, that looks REALLY dangerous. If the engine loses power, or if the airplane loses balance during the hovering mode, the pilot would likely die. And ejection would be straight out sideways, at an altitude of about 50ft.
the harriers water doesn't cool the engine, it increases the airs density, which increases thrust, handy when your fully loaded. besides, the harrier can land anywhere, not just on special towers
@kdraper2007 Rolls Royce didn't develop the Pegasus engine. It was developed by Bristol Siddeley in 1957. Rolls Royce didn't acquire Bristol Siddeley until 1966. Bristol Siddeley also produced the Olympus engine for the Concorde and not RR.
@theofficialstig It's okay. Yes, it is interesting. Already the Germans in WW2 had some plans to build vertical starting/landing fighters. Check "Focke Wulf Triebflugel". A quite weird contraption, that never flew...
Yeah, they used have balls that clanged together when they walked. The Apollo program was pretty wild and crazy, looking back on it, it was amazing more didn't get killed. Be hard to pull of in today's safety-conscious society.
@dpaton8546 Either your dad's very confused, or you are. This isn't the US Navy's Convair (i.e. not Ryan) XF2Y SeaDart, one of which exploded in San Diego harbour - it's the US Air Force's Ryan X-13 Vertijet. Which didn't.
France "borrowed" German engineers as well, who reluctantly helped to develop the Mirage III's engine (SNECMA Atar 9). But they didn't invent delta wings.
you build a prototype so you can observe it, learn from the mistakes you made making it and then make a better one. i would say it was useful. Besides, what "real" use could that plane have? Its too small to be a war plane and have some good weaponery enganged to its wings...
The use was so that aircraft would not need runways. The end of ww2 Germany was being bombed around the clock, including their airfields and a fighter plane that would not need a runway and be able to get airborne quickly was high on the list to put into production. Today it is no diferent, the ability to land in areas under fire without the expence of long strips that would be a target for terriorist etc.
This is my favorite jet why the fuck they ceased this project, imagine a nuclear bomber months in the air, big enough to carry 10/12 improved versions of this baby. But what brings my piss to a boil is a responce from a fighter pilot from USA when I mentioned Pete Girard and Eric Winkle Brown he said 'USA goverment doesn't tell us shit', that's not just unfair but ridiculous, if it wasn't for fearless crazy wackos like them there would be no fighter pilots today.
Hi, great engineering good aircraft but poor weapons platforms. Weight sensitive thus fuel limited and payload limited. A VTOL must improve these limitations before a service states could be considered for military use. A slow and low aircraft is no place to be when in combat. 007 Wing Man "Good Hunting".
LOL. This peice of junk was FLYING in the mid-50's. The Harrier was barely a sketch in Hawker Aircraft notebooks at that time (~1957). If you want to know what the progress on VTOL in England was when the X13 was being flown, try googling the Rolls-Royce Thrust Measuring Rig. Every good idea (like the vectored thrust nozzles on an F-22 Raptor) comes from somewhere, and it's rarely as glorious as the finished product.
Good transition from vertical to horizontal flight. Bloody good pilots too. Thanks for posting mate.
How I envy the Jobs these pilots had!!!
Thanks for the video.
I love watching old X-plane videos. They're even more interesting in a language I can understand. Sorry I'm American. I only speak 1 language. American ;)
Although i wish i had learned Spanish and German at an early age.
@theofficialstig The pilot controlled it with vectored engine thrust and small jets at the wingtips. This was one of several experimental aircraft in the 50's that should investigate the possibility to design a fighter that could take off and land vertically, without the need of airfields or big aircraft cruisers. None resulted in a "tailsitting" production aircraft.
Check X-13, XFV-1 and XFY-1 on wikipedia.
I think there was a similar aircraft (Goblin?) that was tiny like the X13, and it was built to be dropped from the belly of a B-29 and then pull back under the belly to re-hook itself in. That plane failed too because there was too much air turbulence under the bomber and it could not re-hook itself. I loved the good old days of experimental aircraft. There were dozens of experimental aircraft, the result of which were a small number of aircraft that actually worked.
reminded me of that turboprop one called the 'flying pogo' looked like something off those crazy 60's science fiction films. i wonder what those guys would have made of the JSF now lol
just beautiful!
@kirktalon the basic design of the vectored thrust engine used in the Harrier was the Idea of a frenchman, he proposed it to an U.S. air force idea competition in the 1950's. the concept was distributed amonst the Nato Nations aeronautical community & Rolls-Royce decided to try & develope it. it eventually matured into the Pagasus engine used in the AV-8A & AV-8B Harrier.
Congratulations for the pilot. That landing was almost impossible.
Wow. They should nickname that thing the Bee, or the Wasp. It's so dinky, look how small it is; still very powerful to be able to hover vertically. Pretty cool.
@mivhoa we gave you such ideas to make you busy ;-)
I think it was more the control system what was of interest instead of the payload to this x13. having a mobile interceptor anywhere would be the goal at that time. god thanks we were not that successful.
@jannej312 thanks for the upload!
@kdraper2007 Ah, that is a nice tidbit of information I will have to remember. This is much appreciated.
TogieTung: The design of the Pegasus engine was originally the idea of Frenchman, Michel Wibault - not an "Eastern European." Wibault filed the patent for a jet engine whose exhaust was directed through two jet pipes which could be swivelled horizontally or vertically. As the French government was not interested, Wibault sold the idea to the British company Bristol, who bought the license for it. They modified Wibault's engine and produced the Pegasus turbojet which used four swivelling jets.
Yeah... we do... the v-22 ospray works now.. the f-35 marine version has an extra fan to provide stability...
I like how they just "hang the airplane on a hook" at the end, like it was a garden tool in the shed or the garage. Honestly, though, that looks REALLY dangerous. If the engine loses power, or if the airplane loses balance during the hovering mode, the pilot would likely die. And ejection would be straight out sideways, at an altitude of about 50ft.
How do they find such highly skilled pilots with so little fear?
the harriers water doesn't cool the engine, it increases the airs density, which increases thrust, handy when your fully loaded.
besides, the harrier can land anywhere, not just on special towers
This is the future of multi-story car parking.
@kdraper2007 Rolls Royce didn't develop the Pegasus engine. It was developed by Bristol Siddeley in 1957. Rolls Royce didn't acquire Bristol Siddeley until 1966. Bristol Siddeley also produced the Olympus engine for the Concorde and not RR.
@theofficialstig It's okay. Yes, it is interesting. Already the Germans in WW2 had some plans to build vertical starting/landing fighters. Check "Focke Wulf Triebflugel". A quite weird contraption, that never flew...
Just as I thought only RC planes can do knife edges!
that pilot either has a deathwish, or has bolls of polished steel
Do you know she is the german voice of Agent Scully?
how can he control that and what is that actually useful for and how can he land that
Yeah, they used have balls that clanged together when they walked. The Apollo program was pretty wild and crazy, looking back on it, it was amazing more didn't get killed. Be hard to pull of in today's safety-conscious society.
@dpaton8546 Either your dad's very confused, or you are. This isn't the US Navy's Convair (i.e. not Ryan) XF2Y SeaDart, one of which exploded in San Diego harbour - it's the US Air Force's Ryan X-13 Vertijet. Which didn't.
ja. das ist sehr prima.
@kirktalon The 'better idea' came 20 years later.
0:30 Its Christmas for the Techs!! :P
Some of em remended me of Heinkel Lerhe.
Anyway here is where german tech came after ww2.
that is fucking awesome
France "borrowed" German engineers as well, who reluctantly helped to develop the Mirage III's engine (SNECMA Atar 9). But they didn't invent delta wings.
She is saying your shorts are to big and some personal items are exposed to harmful UV rays. At least it sounds like that.
I agree with You.
@kirktalon Yeah, but this was in 1955...
Harrier needs water which was limited to cool the vertical flight engine down. the X13 didnt.
you build a prototype so you can observe it, learn from the mistakes you made making it and then make a better one. i would say it was useful. Besides, what "real" use could that plane have? Its too small to be a war plane and have some good weaponery enganged to its wings...
The use was so that aircraft would not need runways. The end of ww2 Germany was being bombed around the clock, including their airfields and a fighter plane that would not need a runway and be able to get airborne quickly was high on the list to put into production. Today it is no diferent, the ability to land in areas under fire without the expence of long strips that would be a target for terriorist etc.
@YDDES thanks man thats really interesting and im not being sarcastic
budget cuts in military aircraft development... sucks but some people want to keep their salary the same or rising...
@truthspeaker969 puh leeze.. they all WANTED to come here.
x 13 the starting of the harrier jet
hey..
that plane has no butt! for me its the sr-71 thats a plane from the late 50s and is crazy fast
so cool, just hide in the clouds.
@cssisdabest ok, and your point is? I know that. I am just saying that government has an amazing technology.
it's a flying dart!!!
Ah......of course.
ohainoob: This aircraft does not have thrust vectoring. It's a "tail-sitter." Get the facts before making your comments.
guess what x 13 is based on a ww2 german design ....worth check it...
I thought the same ;)
@3dd4dd big crazy balls
UAVs?..Wow!! are you one of those people who blinds with science?
Oh where's you sense of adventure!
This is my favorite jet why the fuck they ceased this project, imagine a nuclear bomber months in the air, big enough to carry 10/12 improved versions of this baby.
But what brings my piss to a boil is a responce from a fighter pilot from USA when I mentioned Pete Girard and Eric Winkle Brown he said 'USA goverment doesn't tell us shit', that's not just unfair but ridiculous, if it wasn't for fearless crazy wackos like them there would be no fighter pilots today.
wow für heutige vehältnisse war das ja vedammt günstig...
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Hi, great engineering good aircraft but poor weapons platforms. Weight sensitive thus fuel limited and payload limited. A VTOL must improve these limitations before a service states could be considered for military use. A slow and low aircraft is no place to be when in combat. 007 Wing Man "Good Hunting".
this pilot is not good - it is God!
Roswell, 1947.
pilot with big balls
LOL. This peice of junk was FLYING in the mid-50's. The Harrier was barely a sketch in Hawker Aircraft notebooks at that time (~1957). If you want to know what the progress on VTOL in England was when the X13 was being flown, try googling the Rolls-Royce Thrust Measuring Rig. Every good idea (like the vectored thrust nozzles on an F-22 Raptor) comes from somewhere, and it's rarely as glorious as the finished product.
i dont really think theres any solid evidence of that
mira la estrella puñetas
whats she saying!!!
whats she saying! ! !
@truthspeaker969 lol we could have been the worlds most advanced country with germany and destroyed the USSR in 2 years
microcasmic particles LOL wow im overtired sorry.
Its in fucking kraut
X-13 vertijet
the eur4opeans call this a experimental plane..
in usa it was a ovni... lolllllll
lol
sitting duck
.....then the Brittish made a Harrier and made the yanks look like idiots! ok a Frenchman designed the Harrier apparently
ye most of the today technologies came from that time period. damn fuck today's conservative science.
Фигня полная! Просто игрушка за бешеные деньги! Малейший ветер - хрен он так повесит этот пепелац на верёвочку!
i cant see shit... only up
bla bla la bla RYAN bla bla bla bla (0:09) - (0:13)
americans dont wanna hear that,thats why;D
bla bla bla ROLLS ROYCE bla bla bla (0:35-0:38)
ENGLISH
Nope, GERMAN.