Land rovers are only under rated in the states. They have been used as overlandsrs across the world for years. Extremely capable specially the older ones discovery 1 and 2 and defenders. Watch some camel trophy videos totally epic.
I agree! I knew nothing about land rover other then they are inexpensive. I had heard they were unreliable but after owning this one for a year I'm very interested in Hearing the specifics of what will fail.
@@blurglide I've owned a good few land rovers and none have ever failed me. Its all on how they are maintained and driven. Most people drive them hard and don't take care of them the same reason jeeps are said to be unreliable.
Dirt Lifestyle is one of the best fabrication/offroad related channels on all of TH-cam. Pure...no brand fanboying getting shoved down your throat. Production value of his content is top tier. One of the few content creators that I'm a Patreon of.
I held off watching this content as I've watched both channels as both of you have great lighting, clear and concise information on what you cover. I especially started watching TR for the fact he has a smaller rig and how one utilizes the space limits the all the gear and it's weight. Another reference channel I watch is 4xoverland which provides more insight. It's the same as sailing when it comes to space and gear and what efficiently works over time. Thank you both for the great content coverage. Cheers :)
Enjoyed the interview Brad. My son-in-law & I each bought a 2003 Discovery about 2 1/2 years ago, both had about 140,000 miles & we paid about $4,000 for each. I put a 2" Old Man Emu lift on mine, a RTT & plan on buying some BFG KM3's in the near future. We love them & have taken them on numerous trails throughout central & northern Arizona. They do need to be closely maintained, but haven't let us down so far. I met you last year at Overland West, really enjoy your channel. I also follow Nate, he is a very talented guy.
I just love seeing how much Nate is enjoying Over landing. I have been watching him grow in his videography and sound quality and content, since his collaboration with Matt and the other guys with Bleepin Jeep. He has gone far in a short amount of time. I’ve been watching you both about the same length of time and love the journey that you both have made. Thank you for the great videos. I can not wait for the next ones.
I was following the vehicle build on his channel. Then, I'm surprised and totally thrilled to see the build review on this channel. It's like double happiness for me. Thank you guys for the great content.
I have owned two of them. Completely underrated the driving experience is like no other and all those people that bring up reliability have never actually owned one. Any vehicle of that age and mileage is going to have its fair share of maintenance issues. 10/10 would recommend at least owning one.
I maintain mine well and it's never let me sit in 8 years. ALWAYS starts and if something breaks, it still gets me home or warns me ahead of total failure. It probably has 10-15k trail miles and 130k road miles. Been on nearly every trail in Colorado besides the buggy trails. Just drove it 400 miles today after it sat for 4 weeks and it cruised at 80mph with nice cold AC.
@@matth4069 I've come to think that Toyota owners just don't talk about their issues. I have two friends with landcruisers a 70 and an 80 and they are being worked on as much as any old Discovery. In the UK people buy land rovers and then can't afford to service them, and you end up with a market of poorly maintained vehicles.
I never comment on TH-cam, however I'm from the UK, You sound like you never heard of Land Rover. It's off roading capabilities are legendary. It's simply is the best vehicle ever, someone mentioned camel trophy, But the British army, navy, air force, search & rescue, red cross, fire, police, ambulance all use Land rover. Even NASA. Yes i do have a Land rover
Mine is finicky and quirky, but I was the only one to not get stuck last outing and have never gotten mine stuck. Mine is a 2001 with the locking center diff from the factory that they disable, but it's still there for a limp home mode. I added the linkage, then modified with front and rear lockers and 4.43 gears from GBRUtah and the upgraded multi-u-joint drive shafts. It's the 4.0 and retrofitted to ABR head studs after the first headgasket failure. For the Rover V8s your friend needs to try a ZDDP additive in the oil for that lifter ticking noise. These are old Buick 1960s engines essentially, with advanced Bosch ECUs trying to make them act modern. They are direct cam on tappets and are loud with higher wear. I run some MMO in mine too. I kept my radius and control arms too, but used Old Man Emu coils and shocks. The stock traction control is hands down the best I've ever seen as he noted, but I really wanted lockers. For the most part I ironed out any issues almost a decade ago when I got it for about $4K. I know every inch of it at this point and it's still my favorite of my fleet. That being said I have a dead driver side window motor right now and a bad driver side door lock, so it only unlocks with the manual key. I do love her though...
svnbit Cherokee XJ is more reliable than both not as good stock off road but with all the money you saved buying a cheap xj and not having to fix it all the time, you can get some true tracs or lockers.
This is why I bought one brand new in ‘02 and have kept it ever since. His 4.6 at 200k miles has had to have the head gaskets changed at least once. Its an old Buick motor. At $5k, that’s a great deal.
I've been watching Nate since he went on his own on TH-cam. Video's are awesome and he is extremely creative! Glad you got down here to California to enjoy the best thing about this state and one of the only things, haha !!!
Of course the Discovery II is a great vehicle. I've had my 2003 since it was nearly new. I've "buried" it more than once to the frame and it walked its way out. I love it! One of the last Discoveries you can actually put a serious lift kit on.
This guy is super crafty. I have gullwing windows on both sides of my 80 series Land Cruiser and they make such a huge difference packing gear in and out.
I owned three Land Rovers including a 2001 Discovery II that I bought new. It had numerous issues but I did enjoy the vehicle. I would buy another one if I could find one that had been well sorted. Future owners just need to be aware that these old rigs are great but will require maintenance and considerable care. Great video and I missed my 2001 even though I parted with it in 2011. Thanks for sharing.
Two of my favorite people doing a rig walk around . Nates fab skills are off the chart and I'm looking forward to more of his Land Rover build . I really enjoy his channel as well as your channel Brad . I'm hoping someday I can meet you both . Until next time take care and be safe .
Had a 1995 Defender 90 I sold after spending years building it! Had ARB lockers Front and Rear..re-geared 4.88s and pegged diffs by Ashcroft...Ashcroft underdrive crawl box..35” nitto mud grapplers ...beadlocks.. many many more upgrades..had axles etc.had a blast crawling it with a loyal Jeep club.... been waiting on the Jeep Gladiator diesel.... never went west. Always wanted to..
Defenders and Discovery 1s & 2s are primarily work vehicles. People hate on them because of a misconception about reliability, but work vehicles work hard. I've broken down just as often in Toyotas and Jeeps.
Totally agree with this comment, my Discovery 1 was as reliable and capable as my Toyota 80, both vehicles accomplishing over 300k miles, maintenance is the answer for reliability on any brand, followed by vehicle sympathy and a rudimentary knowledge of what’s happening in the power/ transmission chain, BTW great video, as ever, thanks. ( from UK)
I wish I could drive my Landrover through such a Landscape. We got no legal dirt roads left in Germany and our pavement looks like the driveway of a rich guy in Beverly Hills. Great build and entertaining video too.
Brad I totally agree with you about Nates fab vids, he is my favorite fabricator to watch. He style is bang on for everything! Great vid from you as well, love the collab 👍🏼
Proud ex owner of a D2 myself, though TD5 as opposed to a V8. Extremely comforttable family run about, and great off road. Sadly, we had a bad rollover and she was totalled. Now we own a D4, way more plush, and also very capable off road, though no where as easy to mod as a D2. Great video!
I love my 03 discovery 2. Its a beast. LOTS of repairs haha, but a beast non the less. The nice thing is that you can typically get them for cheap, you might have a handful of needed repairs right off the bat, but if you are mechanically inclined you can do most repairs yourself. And then you have a great off road rig you typically pay less than $9k for.
Nice, it was to see Nate on this channel... He said he was going out for a shake down cruise on the last video, didn’t know he was venturing all the way down to hook up with Brad. Two of my favorites!
THANK YOU sooo much !! for covering and including the Disco in your video series. It is about time JEEP Owners and Land Rover Owners bury the hatchet and begin wheelin together
Thank you Nate and Brad! You guys are great working together. And I'm certain you have had an amazing experience on this trip. Looking forward to seeing the video on @dirtlifestyle
I have a 99 rover that I have put in a 4.6 with a crower performance cam and what makes it good is not just the suspension is both diffs are on the right side.
Yes it made a difference in take off from a stop light it's still somewhat sluggish but I have plans for a set of 411 gears.great basin Rovers has been awesome with their work and help.
@Tim Gardner How easy or difficult was the engine swap? Any modifications required? I have a 99 D2 and it has 185,000 miles. It’s my DD and still runs great, but I am considering that engine for a future swap.
Yeah Brad, those Disco are pretty cool. My cousin had one until he started having electrical problems, he now has a Rubicon. They loved that thing while they had it. Another great walk around Brad. Thanks
When you just have to say "It's a Land Rover part" no fancy aftermarket part ... love it. I daily a '97 D1, my daughters dubbed her "the YETI" such a great stock monster!
@@bradh6185 Eh.. haha! It's not terrible but sometimes can be difficult especially if you want oem. But it's not a nightmare like some vehicles out there. So far for what I've had to repair its been good. If you're talking aftermarket support it's much more difficult
Don't swap in a diesel. The v8 works. You start doing swaps and trail runs end up being shakedown runs with things going wrong. If the v8 works, keep it.
Todd Hoffmaster he has a TH-cam channel devoted to modification and building unique practical stuff. If they didn’t modify it they would be just another chump on the road in a d2.
As an owner of one of these for the past 10 years I highly recommend you buy one with a blown engine for 2 reasons: Apart from the cheap price and bullet proof trans. 1) you won't go through the disappointment of finding out that your sleeves are slipping (tick, tick, tick,) or you need (another) head gasket.... 2) GM LS motor swaps are becoming somewhat mainstream. *Your "ticky lifter" is probably your cylinder sleeves - I fought people telling this for years but when I had my last head gasket I had the oil pump and all the lifter replaced and I still get the same intermittent tick, tick, tick, tick, tick,tick, tick, tick..... - the carrier in the rear end is inherently weak and prone to go. All this to say - I love my 2004 as it has the center locking diff - all 2004 came with 'em from the factory with the linkage. Other years have them but don't come with the linkage.
Discos are awesome. I have a TD5 ( I'm in Oz ) and it's great. One mod I would recommend is a separate oil cooler or the trans. They really don't have enough oil in 'em, and can overheat. A big cooler fixes that. You can also put 'wings' on the sump to give it more oil. The axles are LR and they are tough. Pity that here a 4" lift and 37s are illegal.
TFL had the same generation Disco that they really liked. The only real issues is the engine. I am sure that one has had the heads off one or two times. They also liked the traction control setup. That thing will be a monster on 37's.
Kyle B EGR has nothing to do with California. It’s been a federal requirement for almost forty years. I have not seen anything about there being zero emissions in EU delivered versions. Especially since their emissions are stricter than the US.
@@kyleb5518 they are also an issue bc soccer mom's will drive it on a dead water pump or a busted radiator until she pops. Do your maintenance and she will drive over 200k like this one.
Stuka87 I don’t mean exclusively egr but US ones are ran far leaner and have a different head config, Euro ones don’t have the head issue, and as binh said a lot are just driven on low coolant in high humidity which they dislike
The weight limit is a little on the low side but the body roll gets pretty severe when it is overloaded. One of the places we go fishing is at the end of a long drive on secondary roads and then a few hours on a washed out forestry road. We have a canoe, several jerry cans and a few other items on the roof. About 225 lbs and you can really feel the effect on the winding roads and offroad the truck readily rocks side to side as it reacts to the rough road! Even with great shocks a swerve at full highway speed would probably put the truck on its side. Heavy stuff inside and light stuff on the roof rack is the best way to go, or get an off road trailor milspec Sankey.
The World: You should spend at least $100K if want to go off road. "No I'm pretty happy with it". The World: Are you going to upgrade it. "No I'm pretty happy with it". Nothing beats being happy with what you have.
i have had 3 landcruiser 70 series, 1 landcruiser 200, nissan patrols and a discovery4. out of all the cars my favourite was the discovery 4, it was so capable it was able to keep up with my buddies highly modded nissan patrol in technical terrain. the disco was amazing all it was was A/T tyres and a snorkel and nothing was able to stop it
Very under rated ! Rovers are built for that ! The only problem is all the issues that come along with having a rover and how expensive it is to maintain them.
great video - we just bought a 2001 Land Rover Discovery 2. Could not resist. Not an off road question but in this video I see some cup holders that are quite interesting. Creature comforts ya know . Where might I find those cup holders.
I have a 2001 version of this exact vehicle paint and all I can't wait!!! I just picked it up.. Didn't realize how easy it was to work on them actually🤟🤟
I used to have a 1996 Dicovery 1. Never had any problems with it in the six years I had it. However, the original owner said he had tons of issues. My advice by used, let the previous owner sort the issues and you'll have a super solid rig. I wish I hadn't sold mine. I'm considering selling my XJ for another Disco 1.
Have you seen the new Ineos Grenadier? Basically a updated old defender but better. And they are suppose to come to the U.S. with a mercedes turbo diesel....I'm obsessed.
I follow both of your pages. I've been waiting for this video. I too rock a D2 and I'm dead set on utilizing my cargo area better. I'm organized now with Plano boxes, but hate having to move everything in and out. Also considering a rtt, but that's a huge consideration. Glad to see the Rover didn't disappoint! Not a lot of confidence left in these old battle tanks! Thank u both for the awesome content. @RoveAgain
If you are in the States, there was an NAS model with a manual transmission. I believe it was 95 model year. That’s a Discovery 1. They are rare and could be expensive, but once in a while you see one available for sale.
Always have loved Land rovers . Great off road rigs , not as well know here in the states but well known in the world . Thanks for sharing your awesome videos with us your over landing friends & family . Cheers from Steve Stott in Sutherlin Oregon U.S.A.
ive got two discovery 2's one manual (2000) and one automatic (2003), both with the TD5 engine, apart from chassis rotting on the back and hub bearings needing replacing, the only big thing to happen has been the crankshaft pully wheel bolt came loose, so lost steering, brakes and electrics all in one go. Otherwise I love em, go anywhere and are great work and playtime vehicles.
I have owned a 2004 Disco2 for a year now. I'll start with the CONS first, 12 mpg, no stranger to a repair shop, cheap electronics, horribly underpowered, lots of cheap plastic, very top heavy. now for the PROS. Solid axles, center locking differential (for some, mine has one) easy to upgrade and modify, massive suspension flex, lots of torque, will pull itself out of almost any situaton. comfortable ride. If your looking for a cheap, and incredibly capable offroad vehicle, go ahead and buy one. But know, she drinks fuel, and you'll be fixing things here and there. I recommend siloconing the electronics to waterproof them
Im a little confused. Why does he want to build this out more? Hes talking about the weight of a F350, hes right now sitting at a capable car, with 16MPG and almost everything stock so nothing will break. Im pretty confused why someone would go all out and add a ton of weight so that things will start breaking, his MPG will go down to that 10MPG he was worried about etc etc
Absolutely I own a disco just like that set up the same and I drive down here in Arizona on all kinds of crazy Jeep trails. I got the truck for $5,000 I've done a minimal work to it just catching up on lots of service and fluid changes throughout the entire drivetrain a couple little emissions sensors but overall yeah just having traction control and Center diff lock AKA 4x4 I can go anywhere but I would like to get an Ashcroft 6 mm pin Locker on the rear. People don't realize how balanced they are also full-time 4x4 if you look underneath the front and rear third member style differential are the same front and rear giving it a really balanced weight. It's like a huge ATV with a body put on. Even the 2-in lift can give you crazy articulation with 32-in tires. Yeah they don't have much power but they have okay torque and they are geared low. The auto can be locked into low range gears so you cruise around in second or third low and it does really well. A lot of people underestimate Land Rover just because they have a reputation to not be reliable when an owner just treats them like a basic SUV and drives the crap out of them on the street with minimal maintenance and then they start to fall apart. Also the newer ones having huge Wheels and Low Pro Tires was a dumb move but the new ones are extremely capable literally every single one you see can do crazy stuff even with those Low Pro Tires it's pretty funny to watch $100,000 Range Rovers do stuff. I wish they would stick with solid axles and smaller Wheels but I guess they went the luxury route for a reason with the Range Rover being the first luxury SUV in 1970 and in the '80s having all kinds of features even traction control in 1993. People underestimate the traction control and misunderstand it thinking it lets off the throttle or something stupid not realizing it's the same as the Toyota a track system except made in 1993 and works the exact same. There's no button to shut it off it's just there Land Rover doesn't brag and call it something the way Jeep or Toyota does.
Why would it be under rated? It’s one of the most capable 4x4s ever built and has the same running gear as the Defender, the mainstay of the world’s armies.
Land rovers are only under rated in the states. They have been used as overlandsrs across the world for years. Extremely capable specially the older ones discovery 1 and 2 and defenders. Watch some camel trophy videos totally epic.
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I have to agree. I've owned Land-Rovers for 35+ years. Having had Discovery's for 20. Owning a D1, 3 x D2's one of which I still own and a D3/LR3.
Nobody doubted the capability...it was the reliability that prevented it from catching on in the states.
I agree! I knew nothing about land rover other then they are inexpensive. I had heard they were unreliable but after owning this one for a year I'm very interested in Hearing the specifics of what will fail.
@@blurglide I've owned a good few land rovers and none have ever failed me. Its all on how they are maintained and driven. Most people drive them hard and don't take care of them the same reason jeeps are said to be unreliable.
Dirt Lifestyle is one of the best fabrication/offroad related channels on all of TH-cam. Pure...no brand fanboying getting shoved down your throat. Production value of his content is top tier. One of the few content creators that I'm a Patreon of.
YES!
No one on TH-cam does better walk around videos than you my friend! I look forward to the next one! 🤘
I held off watching this content as I've watched both channels as both of you have great lighting, clear and concise information on what you cover. I especially started watching TR for the fact he has a smaller rig and how one utilizes the space limits the all the gear and it's weight. Another reference channel I watch is 4xoverland which provides more insight. It's the same as sailing when it comes to space and gear and what efficiently works over time. Thank you both for the great content coverage. Cheers :)
When I first saw this I was like yeah Nate from dirt lifestyle has one. Then boom it was you.
Happy to see the disco 2 is doing good
Swap with the r2.8. I've seen some people do it and its badass
Enjoyed the interview Brad. My son-in-law & I each bought a 2003 Discovery about 2 1/2 years ago, both had about 140,000 miles & we paid about $4,000 for each. I put a 2" Old Man Emu lift on mine, a RTT & plan on buying some BFG KM3's in the near future. We love them & have taken them on numerous trails throughout central & northern Arizona. They do need to be closely maintained, but haven't let us down so far. I met you last year at Overland West, really enjoy your channel. I also follow Nate, he is a very talented guy.
I just love seeing how much Nate is enjoying Over landing. I have been watching him grow in his videography and sound quality and content, since his collaboration with Matt and the other guys with Bleepin Jeep. He has gone far in a short amount of time. I’ve been watching you both about the same length of time and love the journey that you both have made. Thank you for the great videos. I can not wait for the next ones.
I was following the vehicle build on his channel.
Then, I'm surprised and totally thrilled to see the build review on this channel.
It's like double happiness for me.
Thank you guys for the great content.
It's like watching two of the worlds greatest guitarists on stage together......
@@newbwheeler9777 Exactly, so it was a surprise
Always love the collaboration between two of my favorite tubers and two of the best at it! Thanks for the great content both of you!
Always great to hang out with Nate!
Thank you for the positive comment brother! Brad and I are both lucky to have you watch our videos 🤘
I have owned two of them. Completely underrated the driving experience is like no other and all those people that bring up reliability have never actually owned one. Any vehicle of that age and mileage is going to have its fair share of maintenance issues. 10/10 would recommend at least owning one.
I maintain mine well and it's never let me sit in 8 years. ALWAYS starts and if something breaks, it still gets me home or warns me ahead of total failure. It probably has 10-15k trail miles and 130k road miles. Been on nearly every trail in Colorado besides the buggy trails. Just drove it 400 miles today after it sat for 4 weeks and it cruised at 80mph with nice cold AC.
@@matth4069 I've come to think that Toyota owners just don't talk about their issues. I have two friends with landcruisers a 70 and an 80 and they are being worked on as much as any old Discovery. In the UK people buy land rovers and then can't afford to service them, and you end up with a market of poorly maintained vehicles.
I never comment on TH-cam, however I'm from the UK, You sound like you never heard of Land Rover. It's off roading capabilities are legendary. It's simply is the best vehicle ever, someone mentioned camel trophy, But the British army, navy, air force, search & rescue, red cross, fire, police, ambulance all use Land rover. Even NASA.
Yes i do have a Land rover
Mine is finicky and quirky, but I was the only one to not get stuck last outing and have never gotten mine stuck. Mine is a 2001 with the locking center diff from the factory that they disable, but it's still there for a limp home mode. I added the linkage, then modified with front and rear lockers and 4.43 gears from GBRUtah and the upgraded multi-u-joint drive shafts. It's the 4.0 and retrofitted to ABR head studs after the first headgasket failure. For the Rover V8s your friend needs to try a ZDDP additive in the oil for that lifter ticking noise. These are old Buick 1960s engines essentially, with advanced Bosch ECUs trying to make them act modern. They are direct cam on tappets and are loud with higher wear. I run some MMO in mine too. I kept my radius and control arms too, but used Old Man Emu coils and shocks. The stock traction control is hands down the best I've ever seen as he noted, but I really wanted lockers. For the most part I ironed out any issues almost a decade ago when I got it for about $4K. I know every inch of it at this point and it's still my favorite of my fleet. That being said I have a dead driver side window motor right now and a bad driver side door lock, so it only unlocks with the manual key. I do love her though...
dont need additive if you just use rotella diesel oil
T that works too.
eBay for used window motors and door locks! Cheap
Easy couple of fixes there.
I've had three Disco's from '95-03...favorite LR after the RR Classic! Great trucks!!
I have owned 3 of these.. They will definitely surprise you, in more ways than one.
Cameron 😂
Haha money pit.
I have one. Every time I arrive some where. I’m surprised.
Lr3 smokes this in every way and doesn't bleed oil from every possible place
svnbit Cherokee XJ is more reliable than both not as good stock off road but with all the money you saved buying a cheap xj and not having to fix it all the time, you can get some true tracs or lockers.
This is why I bought one brand new in ‘02 and have kept it ever since. His 4.6 at 200k miles has had to have the head gaskets changed at least once. Its an old Buick motor. At $5k, that’s a great deal.
I have a 1993 200TDI no work done on engine with 317K on the clock. Cheap as chips to run, 800K on a tank.......runs on vegetable oil. LOL!
I've been watching Nate since he went on his own on TH-cam. Video's are awesome and he is extremely creative! Glad you got down here to California to enjoy the best thing about this state and one of the only things, haha !!!
Of course the Discovery II is a great vehicle. I've had my 2003 since it was nearly new. I've "buried" it more than once to the frame and it walked its way out. I love it! One of the last Discoveries you can actually put a serious lift kit on.
This guy is super crafty. I have gullwing windows on both sides of my 80 series Land Cruiser and they make such a huge difference packing gear in and out.
Great stuff guys, cool Disco 2a. Diff ratio is 3.54 with 3.34 tcase. Cheers from Aussie land ✌
cool i m getting one this week in the old country good info to know.
Never thought they were underrated. They are the best off road ever.
I owned three Land Rovers including a 2001 Discovery II that I bought new. It had numerous issues but I did enjoy the vehicle. I would buy another one if I could find one that had been well sorted. Future owners just need to be aware that these old rigs are great but will require maintenance and considerable care. Great video and I missed my 2001 even though I parted with it in 2011. Thanks for sharing.
How much was it brand new in 2001?
@@swim2kill I bought it as a dealer demo and paid $33k. I got ~$5k of MSRP.
Two of my favorite people doing a rig walk around . Nates fab skills are off the chart and I'm looking forward to more of his Land Rover build . I really enjoy his channel as well as your channel Brad . I'm hoping someday I can meet you both . Until next time take care and be safe .
Had a 1995 Defender 90 I sold after spending years building it! Had ARB lockers Front and Rear..re-geared 4.88s and pegged diffs by Ashcroft...Ashcroft underdrive crawl box..35” nitto mud grapplers ...beadlocks.. many many more upgrades..had axles etc.had a blast crawling it with a loyal Jeep club.... been waiting on the Jeep Gladiator diesel.... never went west. Always wanted to..
I can totally appreciate the Land Rover BUT I ❤️🥰 my Jeep
Defenders and Discovery 1s & 2s are primarily work vehicles. People hate on them because of a misconception about reliability, but work vehicles work hard. I've broken down just as often in Toyotas and Jeeps.
Totally agree with this comment, my Discovery 1 was as reliable and capable as my Toyota 80, both vehicles accomplishing over 300k miles, maintenance is the answer for reliability on any brand, followed by vehicle sympathy and a rudimentary knowledge of what’s happening in the power/ transmission chain, BTW great video, as ever, thanks. ( from UK)
Disco 2 owner here, these things are luxury tanks! 💪
Two of the best TH-camrs out there. Enjoy both of your channels.
I wish I could drive my Landrover through such a Landscape. We got no legal dirt roads left in Germany and our pavement looks like the driveway of a rich guy in Beverly Hills. Great build and entertaining video too.
Thanks for Representing the discovery 2 man, they really are underrated
Walking down the street with my German Shepperds I discover a You Tube Star on my block , way to go Nate.
Brad I totally agree with you about Nates fab vids, he is my favorite fabricator to watch. He style is bang on for everything! Great vid from you as well, love the collab 👍🏼
Proud ex owner of a D2 myself, though TD5 as opposed to a V8. Extremely comforttable family run about, and great off road. Sadly, we had a bad rollover and she was totalled. Now we own a D4, way more plush, and also very capable off road, though no where as easy to mod as a D2. Great video!
You two are among my favorites. Looking forward to Nates tech video, as always. You're my welding inspiration! Rock on dudes!
I love my 03 discovery 2. Its a beast. LOTS of repairs haha, but a beast non the less. The nice thing is that you can typically get them for cheap, you might have a handful of needed repairs right off the bat, but if you are mechanically inclined you can do most repairs yourself. And then you have a great off road rig you typically pay less than $9k for.
Nice, it was to see Nate on this channel... He said he was going out for a shake down cruise on the last video, didn’t know he was venturing all the way down to hook up with Brad. Two of my favorites!
Great to see my two favorite you tubers on the same episode. As the owner of two Discos I loved seeing the walk around. Discos are very underrated.
The dynamic duo!! (of overlanding and off roading anyway) Two of this best channels for this kind of stuff IMHO.
Nate does the best DIY fabrication videos.
THANK YOU sooo much !! for covering and including the Disco in your video series. It is about time JEEP Owners and Land Rover Owners bury the hatchet and begin wheelin together
Thank you Nate and Brad! You guys are great working together. And I'm certain you have had an amazing experience on this trip. Looking forward to seeing the video on @dirtlifestyle
Thank you!
Awesome to see you guys wheel together. Nate’s channel is great. Can’t wait to see his video on this trip.
How have they ever been underrated? One glimpse of the Camel Trophy is enough to understand how great they are.
Been watching Nate work on the LR for a while. Looking forward to more! Glad to see you two collaborating.
It’s been fun following along on his build. Can not wait to see the next phase
Both you guys have amazing channels. Thank you for the insight and overall great content. Nothing but love 😎💪👊
Much appreciated!
I have a 99 rover that I have put in a 4.6 with a crower performance cam and what makes it good is not just the suspension is both diffs are on the right side.
Did you notice anything on the butt Dyno? Did you have it retuned?
Yes it made a difference in take off from a stop light it's still somewhat sluggish but I have plans for a set of 411 gears.great basin Rovers has been awesome with their work and help.
@Tim Gardner How easy or difficult was the engine swap? Any modifications required? I have a 99 D2 and it has 185,000 miles. It’s my DD and still runs great, but I am considering that engine for a future swap.
Yeah Brad, those Disco are pretty cool. My cousin had one until he started having electrical problems, he now has a Rubicon. They loved that thing while they had it. Another great walk around Brad. Thanks
I’ve always liked the Discos. I’m really a fan of anything designed to actually go off-road sooo 🤷🏼♂️😂. Great video as usual Brad!
Ph hi! I love your videos!
Val Nikonov Thanks!
I dont think there is anything underrated about the land rover?? One of the best platforms of all time in most countries
i love my disco and never plan on getting rid of it, i wanna set it up like this too!
Only underrated in the USA 🇺🇸
100" Wheelbase, body on frame, solid axles and coil springs all round!
For the money, it’s one of the best off-roaders I’ve ever driven. I still have mine.
When you just have to say "It's a Land Rover part" no fancy aftermarket part ... love it. I daily a '97 D1, my daughters dubbed her "the YETI" such a great stock monster!
that rear tailgate kitchen is freaking brilliant.
How can it be underrated when world wide its regarded as the best off road vehicle of all time
My favourite channel! Thanks for everything. Tips, recipes etc. Got a Wrangler -07 myself. Shout out from Sweden!
Great car as long as you can get to the trail with it lol
Love it, I'm going monday to pick up a Land Rover Discovery... Love the Video to help me make the decision...
personally think the most underrated off road rig has to be the Montero. Mine has yet to leave me stranded and has taken on so much!
Would you say it's easy to find parts for the Montero?
@@bradh6185 Eh.. haha! It's not terrible but sometimes can be difficult especially if you want oem. But it's not a nightmare like some vehicles out there. So far for what I've had to repair its been good. If you're talking aftermarket support it's much more difficult
Don't swap in a diesel. The v8 works. You start doing swaps and trail runs end up being shakedown runs with things going wrong. If the v8 works, keep it.
^^^^ This.
The axles work great and yet you are going to swap them too. Overlanders are not rock crawlers. If it works why change it?
Todd Hoffmaster he has a TH-cam channel devoted to modification and building unique practical stuff. If they didn’t modify it they would be just another chump on the road in a d2.
Dang Nate! The topo mural didn't make the video???? Awesome touch!
As an owner of one of these for the past 10 years I highly recommend you buy one with a blown engine for 2 reasons: Apart from the cheap price and bullet proof trans.
1) you won't go through the disappointment of finding out that your sleeves are slipping (tick, tick, tick,) or you need (another) head gasket....
2) GM LS motor swaps are becoming somewhat mainstream.
*Your "ticky lifter" is probably your cylinder sleeves - I fought people telling this for years but when I had my last head gasket I had the oil pump and all the lifter replaced and I still get the same intermittent tick, tick, tick, tick, tick,tick, tick, tick.....
- the carrier in the rear end is inherently weak and prone to go.
All this to say - I love my 2004 as it has the center locking diff - all 2004 came with 'em from the factory with the linkage. Other years have them but don't come with the linkage.
Land Rover Discovery vehicles are not underrated but are well respected here in Europe.
Discos are awesome. I have a TD5 ( I'm in Oz ) and it's great. One mod I would recommend is a separate oil cooler or the trans. They really don't have enough oil in 'em, and can overheat. A big cooler fixes that. You can also put 'wings' on the sump to give it more oil.
The axles are LR and they are tough. Pity that here a 4" lift and 37s are illegal.
Hey mate
How much would it cost to get a TD5 ?
TFL had the same generation Disco that they really liked. The only real issues is the engine. I am sure that one has had the heads off one or two times. They also liked the traction control setup. That thing will be a monster on 37's.
The head gaskets are only an issue in the US because of the commiefornia spec emissions crap, delete the egr and put head studs on DONE
Kyle B EGR has nothing to do with California. It’s been a federal requirement for almost forty years. I have not seen anything about there being zero emissions in EU delivered versions. Especially since their emissions are stricter than the US.
@@kyleb5518 they are also an issue bc soccer mom's will drive it on a dead water pump or a busted radiator until she pops. Do your maintenance and she will drive over 200k like this one.
Stuka87 I don’t mean exclusively egr but US ones are ran far leaner and have a different head config, Euro ones don’t have the head issue, and as binh said a lot are just driven on low coolant in high humidity which they dislike
The weight limit is a little on the low side but the body roll gets pretty severe when it is overloaded.
One of the places we go fishing is at the end of a long drive on secondary roads and then a few hours on a washed out forestry road. We have a canoe, several jerry cans and a few other items on the roof. About 225 lbs and you can really feel the effect on the winding roads and offroad the truck readily rocks side to side as it reacts to the rough road!
Even with great shocks a swerve at full highway speed would probably put the truck on its side. Heavy stuff inside and light stuff on the roof rack is the best way to go, or get an off road trailor milspec Sankey.
Who underestimates a Land Rover???
People who have never owned one.
Well they are garbage.
M3 M3 you right, you right
Vasily Lantukh haven’t seen Jeep cross the Amazon.
Americans
I absolutely love you guys. God bless you both. Keep up the good work.
Awesome editing and great video. Love the collaboration!
The old ones with solid front axles and a center diff lock are amazing 4wheelers with lockers.
The World: You should spend at least $100K if want to go off road. "No I'm pretty happy with it". The World: Are you going to upgrade it. "No I'm pretty happy with it". Nothing beats being happy with what you have.
i have had 3 landcruiser 70 series, 1 landcruiser 200, nissan patrols and a discovery4. out of all the cars my favourite was the discovery 4, it was so capable it was able to keep up with my buddies highly modded nissan patrol in technical terrain. the disco was amazing all it was was A/T tyres and a snorkel and nothing was able to stop it
GREAT Walk-around! What an impressive rig!
Love the collaboration. You guys both inspire thousands to be bold and creative. Keep it going!
Very under rated ! Rovers are built for that ! The only problem is all the issues that come along with having a rover and how expensive it is to maintain them.
great video - we just bought a 2001 Land Rover Discovery 2. Could not resist. Not an off road question but in this video I see some cup holders that are quite interesting. Creature comforts ya know . Where might I find those cup holders.
I love Nate's channel. Great walk around of his rover.
I have a 2001 version of this exact vehicle paint and all I can't wait!!! I just picked it up.. Didn't realize how easy it was to work on them actually🤟🤟
The two channels I’ve found myself watching the mostly lately, keep up the good work fellas.
So dope seeing Nate on your channel!!! This video made my day. Keep doing collaborations like this.
So enjoyed this crossover!!! Can’t wait to see what @dirtlifestyle does on his version
I used to have a 1996 Dicovery 1. Never had any problems with it in the six years I had it. However, the original owner said he had tons of issues. My advice by used, let the previous owner sort the issues and you'll have a super solid rig. I wish I hadn't sold mine. I'm considering selling my XJ for another Disco 1.
I have the cleanest 96 disco SD in the US - maybe world - will let you have it for $85K - it has a little over 12k original miles
Have you seen the new Ineos Grenadier? Basically a updated old defender but better. And they are suppose to come to the U.S. with a mercedes turbo diesel....I'm obsessed.
Don’t know about the Mercedes diesel part... heard they were all going to be BMW gassers
@@robertatkins272 3 liter gas or 3 liter diesel buyers pick
BMW engines and no, they're not just a tweaked Defender.
Nate is a good dude, always enjoy his videos and good to see you two wheeling together!
Discovery best 4x4 by far
Two of my favorite channels coming together. Awesome
I follow both of your pages. I've been waiting for this video. I too rock a D2 and I'm dead set on utilizing my cargo area better. I'm organized now with Plano boxes, but hate having to move everything in and out. Also considering a rtt, but that's a huge consideration. Glad to see the Rover didn't disappoint! Not a lot of confidence left in these old battle tanks! Thank u both for the awesome content. @RoveAgain
I would love to find a manual disco one day
Euro spec landrovers are almost exclusively manuals
If you are in the States, there was an NAS model with a manual transmission. I believe it was 95 model year. That’s a Discovery 1. They are rare and could be expensive, but once in a while you see one available for sale.
Ony Quiñones they only ever imported 500 of them per year into the us from 95-97 they are very rare.
Kyle B uhm, no they're not.
Two of my fav off-roaders in the same video! Loved it, can’t wait to see the Disco on 37s!
Always have loved Land rovers . Great off road rigs , not as well know here in the states but well known in the world . Thanks for sharing your awesome videos with us your over landing friends & family . Cheers from Steve Stott in Sutherlin Oregon U.S.A.
ive got two discovery 2's one manual (2000) and one automatic (2003), both with the TD5 engine, apart from chassis rotting on the back and hub bearings needing replacing, the only big thing to happen has been the crankshaft pully wheel bolt came loose, so lost steering, brakes and electrics all in one go.
Otherwise I love em, go anywhere and are great work and playtime vehicles.
sounds like a great trip. Love the Rover. Happy Trails, Safe travels
WHOA!!! a non-jeep walkaround
Land Rover power!🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
I love the looks of the Discovery. He's got a nice rig!
I have owned a 2004 Disco2 for a year now. I'll start with the CONS first, 12 mpg, no stranger to a repair shop, cheap electronics, horribly underpowered, lots of cheap plastic, very top heavy. now for the PROS. Solid axles, center locking differential (for some, mine has one) easy to upgrade and modify, massive suspension flex, lots of torque, will pull itself out of almost any situaton. comfortable ride.
If your looking for a cheap, and incredibly capable offroad vehicle, go ahead and buy one. But know, she drinks fuel, and you'll be fixing things here and there. I recommend siloconing the electronics to waterproof them
Land Rover series 2 Discovery most common engine 2.5 5 cylinder turbo diesel in UK 🇬🇧, awesome off road vehicles . Deffo underrated
Im a little confused. Why does he want to build this out more? Hes talking about the weight of a F350, hes right now sitting at a capable car, with 16MPG and almost everything stock so nothing will break. Im pretty confused why someone would go all out and add a ton of weight so that things will start breaking, his MPG will go down to that 10MPG he was worried about etc etc
This, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Get the engine right and overland it, 32" tires and all. Maybe install some ARB lockers in it too...
Stronger axels are more durable. Yes adding weight will hurt mpg but if the owner is not complaining Its not bugging me.
2 best channels teaming up. 👏🏼 💪
You two complement each other beautifully
Absolutely I own a disco just like that set up the same and I drive down here in Arizona on all kinds of crazy Jeep trails. I got the truck for $5,000 I've done a minimal work to it just catching up on lots of service and fluid changes throughout the entire drivetrain a couple little emissions sensors but overall yeah just having traction control and Center diff lock AKA 4x4 I can go anywhere but I would like to get an Ashcroft 6 mm pin Locker on the rear. People don't realize how balanced they are also full-time 4x4 if you look underneath the front and rear third member style differential are the same front and rear giving it a really balanced weight. It's like a huge ATV with a body put on. Even the 2-in lift can give you crazy articulation with 32-in tires. Yeah they don't have much power but they have okay torque and they are geared low. The auto can be locked into low range gears so you cruise around in second or third low and it does really well. A lot of people underestimate Land Rover just because they have a reputation to not be reliable when an owner just treats them like a basic SUV and drives the crap out of them on the street with minimal maintenance and then they start to fall apart. Also the newer ones having huge Wheels and Low Pro Tires was a dumb move but the new ones are extremely capable literally every single one you see can do crazy stuff even with those Low Pro Tires it's pretty funny to watch $100,000 Range Rovers do stuff. I wish they would stick with solid axles and smaller Wheels but I guess they went the luxury route for a reason with the Range Rover being the first luxury SUV in 1970 and in the '80s having all kinds of features even traction control in 1993. People underestimate the traction control and misunderstand it thinking it lets off the throttle or something stupid not realizing it's the same as the Toyota a track system except made in 1993 and works the exact same. There's no button to shut it off it's just there Land Rover doesn't brag and call it something the way Jeep or Toyota does.
Why would it be under rated? It’s one of the most capable 4x4s ever built and has the same running gear as the Defender, the mainstay of the world’s armies.