Thanks for watching, everyone. like always these are MY observations. feel free to disagree or agree. I appreciate all the comments and thanks for supporting the channel!!
Great advice, i see so many videos on you tube where the lofts are dirty. Another thing a clean loft does is promote the sport and we need to do more of that. Alot of the Romanian flyers have grated floors and nests boxes which reduces cleaning and the dust drops through. Good health is the most important thing to race well.
This was a really great video🙏🏼💪🏼 As a beginner you touched bases with a lot of the things that I am either doing or going through as I am only 5 months in but you are completely right about everything you said from my own experience and that is just my opinion but again thank you for the video and appreciate the advice and tips it really helps 😎💪🏼🙏🏼🏆🪽🪽🕊️
Awesome vid! A good perspective on how you view the sport and what it means to you personally. Others can learn from this video, from new flyers to even the old timers who've been around a while.. 👍👍
awsome video bro! i agree with everything you said.. If people do everything you have said, they will build a very healthy relationship with the birds!
I think it’s important to take good notes. On breeding training and racing. I band my breeders with a spiral band and all their babies get the same spiral band that’s how I take notes hahaha. But most important advice I can give any flyer new and old. Just have fun.
That was a good video that should provide plenty of fodder for the average person to think about. On the subject of cleaning and scraping, as someone who came into racing after 45 years with other breeds, after a couple of years, I've slowly formed the opinion that most Racing Pigeons cannot thrive under the deep litter systems used in Rollers, Utility breeds, Highflying breeds, etc. It may sound like crazy talk, but in spite of the breed's "strength", there seems to be a widespread constitution issue in the breed that results in them falling apart in conditions where other breeds can still thrive. I've seen Rollers thrive in conditions that you just wouldn't believe. I'm talking about lofts with ten inches of manure on a floor that literally moves because the loft was so full of mice. I knew one old Italian fellow that had so many mice in the loft that most of his birds had chewed up tails. He fed them straight wheat because he had so many pigeons to feed and they drank from open topped troughs, which inevitability always had an inch of manure sludge in the bottom. In spite of this, they bred like mad and he never had sickness issues in the 20 years that I knew him. Prior to this, he'd been a commercial squab breeder and he swore up and down that there needed to be a certain amount of dry muck in the nest boxes for the birds to reproduce steadily. It's pretty hard to argue with a guy and tell him that he's wrong when he has 65 years under his belt and he's always done it that way and never had a problem in the process. But, you can't do it with a stud of Racing Pigeons, especially if you crowd them. They'll fall apart. If a person doesn't want to do all the routine scraping or lacks time because of the number of birds they keep or their work schedule, etc. wire or slatted floors should really be the order of the day. Better still, would maybe be to keep less birds so it's a lot less work unless local conditions create such high losses that a big team is a necessity.
@@kerbyjackson88 yeah chickens do well with the deep litter method also. We tried that one winter but we ended up getting rats. Took me so long to get rid of them. Never again.
@DanzaLoft I keep my poultry on deep litter (peat moss, actually), but they are also on wood floors with plenty of height. Like you say, rats will become a HUGE problem in poultry coops with litter on dirt floors or even wooden floors if they sit too close to the ground. That was a big contributor to the old Italian boy's mice issues. He had wood floors just sitting on 2x4s, so it pretty just left the mice with a huge hide away under a 24 x 100+ loft that was slowly sinking into the dirt. They had chewed so many little holes in the plywood that they could easily get back under the floor anytime he came in with a shovel to try to bash a bunch.
@@kerbyjackson88 yeah our coop is on the ground. I changed the whole thing after that. We learned the hard way. My loft is on the ground also but it’s ok.
I found to make my young birds tamer was to go in the loft late in the evening just before dark and give them 2 peanuts each and anything that flew away from me after 5 evenings I would not keep because that’s a nervous bird and it makes the other birds nervous but you have to put shelled peanuts in there food from the beginning once they get used to peanuts there’s no stopping them eating them.👌👍ps not salted peanuts at anytime
@DanzaLoft I noticed you're also racing under his loft name. I would put my birds on your grandfather's trailer by golf course on 14th ave . Its nice to see your keeping his legacy alive and continuing to race. Most of the old lofts are gone and members. I think I'm last loft in dyker heights who keeps homers. Your grandfather's name was still up on the board at the club until it moved about 2 years ago. Like I said most guys are gone. Where do you race? Hope your having a good season..
@@jimmyj1236 you probably saw me as a kid a time or two, I was like his shadow in the summer. I was with him a lot for training tosses when I was little. Yeah, when I decided to get birds my uncle had his old loft sign and gave it to me so I wanted to fly under his name in his memory. That’s awesome you’re still into it. It’s a great sport. When I’m with the birds I feel like he’s here with me. It’s nice.
@DanzaLoft I remember you. I fly with my dad. I haven't raced since 2019. Business commitments but I haven't quit still have the loft full of birds. I'm 49 so I'm youngest in the club hahahaha. Do you remember shipping night for viola race at knights columbus on 13th ave
@@jimmyj1236 I wasn’t aloud to shipping night 😂😂 he left me home with my grandmother. Probably afraid my mom would kill him if I learned anything else from him I wasn’t supposed to know 😂😂
Thanks for watching, everyone. like always these are MY observations. feel free to disagree or agree. I appreciate all the comments and thanks for supporting the channel!!
Old pigeon guy here, new sub! Sure miss my pigeons.👍
Thanks for watching and welcome.
Great advice, i see so many videos on you tube where the lofts are dirty. Another thing a clean loft does is promote the sport and we need to do more of that. Alot of the Romanian flyers have grated floors and nests boxes which reduces cleaning and the dust drops through. Good health is the most important thing to race well.
@@armoroflight3818 thanks and well said.
You can't say it any better than that. 👏👏👏
@@landofthefree4307 thanks buddy! Did you race this weekend?
@DanzaLoft No I didn't. I make a video about. I will be up soon.
This was a really great video🙏🏼💪🏼
As a beginner you touched bases with a lot of the things that I am either doing or going through as I am only 5 months in but you are completely right about everything you said from my own experience and that is just my opinion but again thank you for the video and appreciate the advice and tips it really helps 😎💪🏼🙏🏼🏆🪽🪽🕊️
@@Patelofts740 you’re welcome! As someone below said I forgot the most important rule. Have fun!!
@@DanzaLoft that is the most important part of it all enjoying the pigeons 🙏🏼😎
Awesome vid! A good perspective on how you view the sport and what it means to you personally. Others can learn from this video, from new flyers to even the old timers who've been around a while.. 👍👍
@@ausfuhrpramienjagar thanks
Very good advise & observations Buddy.
thanks
Well said my friend!
@@MaydisLoft thanks pal, and good job today! I was watching.
Truly! I agree my friend ❤
@@supremejangaming508 thanks!
awsome video bro! i agree with everything you said..
If people do everything you have said, they will build a very healthy relationship with the birds!
@@timsparkes804 thanks Tim!
I think it’s important to take good notes. On breeding training and racing. I band my breeders with a spiral band and all their babies get the same spiral band that’s how I take notes hahaha. But most important advice I can give any flyer new and old. Just have fun.
@@georgegatti1 yes! I forgot to mention take notes and absolutely have fun! Thanks George
That was a good video that should provide plenty of fodder for the average person to think about. On the subject of cleaning and scraping, as someone who came into racing after 45 years with other breeds, after a couple of years, I've slowly formed the opinion that most Racing Pigeons cannot thrive under the deep litter systems used in Rollers, Utility breeds, Highflying breeds, etc. It may sound like crazy talk, but in spite of the breed's "strength", there seems to be a widespread constitution issue in the breed that results in them falling apart in conditions where other breeds can still thrive. I've seen Rollers thrive in conditions that you just wouldn't believe. I'm talking about lofts with ten inches of manure on a floor that literally moves because the loft was so full of mice. I knew one old Italian fellow that had so many mice in the loft that most of his birds had chewed up tails. He fed them straight wheat because he had so many pigeons to feed and they drank from open topped troughs, which inevitability always had an inch of manure sludge in the bottom. In spite of this, they bred like mad and he never had sickness issues in the 20 years that I knew him. Prior to this, he'd been a commercial squab breeder and he swore up and down that there needed to be a certain amount of dry muck in the nest boxes for the birds to reproduce steadily. It's pretty hard to argue with a guy and tell him that he's wrong when he has 65 years under his belt and he's always done it that way and never had a problem in the process. But, you can't do it with a stud of Racing Pigeons, especially if you crowd them. They'll fall apart. If a person doesn't want to do all the routine scraping or lacks time because of the number of birds they keep or their work schedule, etc. wire or slatted floors should really be the order of the day. Better still, would maybe be to keep less birds so it's a lot less work unless local conditions create such high losses that a big team is a necessity.
@@kerbyjackson88 yeah chickens do well with the deep litter method also. We tried that one winter but we ended up getting rats. Took me so long to get rid of them. Never again.
@DanzaLoft I keep my poultry on deep litter (peat moss, actually), but they are also on wood floors with plenty of height. Like you say, rats will become a HUGE problem in poultry coops with litter on dirt floors or even wooden floors if they sit too close to the ground. That was a big contributor to the old Italian boy's mice issues. He had wood floors just sitting on 2x4s, so it pretty just left the mice with a huge hide away under a 24 x 100+ loft that was slowly sinking into the dirt. They had chewed so many little holes in the plywood that they could easily get back under the floor anytime he came in with a shovel to try to bash a bunch.
@@kerbyjackson88 yeah our coop is on the ground. I changed the whole thing after that. We learned the hard way. My loft is on the ground also but it’s ok.
Are you racing Steve and are you going live mate 👍👍
If i had patients i would have been a doctor
You’re too young to be making dad jokes.
😂😂
I found to make my young birds tamer was to go in the loft late in the evening just before dark and give them 2 peanuts each and anything that flew away from me after 5 evenings I would not keep because that’s a nervous bird and it makes the other birds nervous but you have to put shelled peanuts in there food from the beginning once they get used to peanuts there’s no stopping them eating them.👌👍ps not salted peanuts at anytime
@@stephencramp1888 my young birds were too tame this year 😂😂 instead of trapping when I called them they tried to land on me in the yard 😂😂
@@DanzaLoft that’s true some of them do that mainly hens 🤭
@@stephencramp1888 for me it was mostly the boys this year.
You're Grandfather Al used to train my birds. Viola club. 😉
@@jimmyj1236 that’s awesome!! His sigh is hanging on my loft. Nice to unofficially meet you!
@DanzaLoft I noticed you're also racing under his loft name. I would put my birds on your grandfather's trailer by golf course on 14th ave . Its nice to see your keeping his legacy alive and continuing to race. Most of the old lofts are gone and members. I think I'm last loft in dyker heights who keeps homers. Your grandfather's name was still up on the board at the club until it moved about 2 years ago. Like I said most guys are gone. Where do you race?
Hope your having a good season..
@@jimmyj1236 you probably saw me as a kid a time or two, I was like his shadow in the summer. I was with him a lot for training tosses when I was little. Yeah, when I decided to get birds my uncle had his old loft sign and gave it to me so I wanted to fly under his name in his memory. That’s awesome you’re still into it. It’s a great sport. When I’m with the birds I feel like he’s here with me. It’s nice.
@DanzaLoft I remember you. I fly with my dad. I haven't raced since 2019. Business commitments but I haven't quit still have the loft full of birds. I'm 49 so I'm youngest in the club hahahaha.
Do you remember shipping night for viola race at knights columbus on 13th ave
@@jimmyj1236 I wasn’t aloud to shipping night 😂😂 he left me home with my grandmother. Probably afraid my mom would kill him if I learned anything else from him I wasn’t supposed to know 😂😂
👋. What's a good medicine for a young hen that quit laying. I am thinking amoxicillin. 🙏
@@HerbysHanz you’re asking the wrong. Maybe a more experienced person who sees this can answer.