🎙️ Welcome to another episode of Inspired Evolution! 🎙️In this captivating conversation, we sit down with the legendary Ken Wilber to dive deep into the realms of integral theory, consciousness, and personal evolution. 🌟 👉 If you found this episode enlightening, don't forget to hit the like button, subscribe, and share your thoughts in the comments below! Your support helps us bring more transformative content to you. 🌐 Check out our Values Masterclass at www.amrit.coach/values for more insights on aligning your life with your highest purpose. 🚀 Looking for one-on-one coaching to enhance your spiritual journey? Visit www.amrit.coach/life and take the next step towards a fulfilling life. Thank you for being a part of the Inspired Evolution community! 🙏
Read his book "A Brief History of Everything" when it first came out ... have followed Integral theory and integrated it into my thinking along with my spiritual grow ... NDE at 16 opened a portal (direct experiences) and an empathic nature and curious nature has made this type of knowledge easy for me to digest ... loved this talk and expansion on the growth of his thinking and intellect ...I'm pushing the upper teal and shifting into the turquoise easily, yet lonely as usual and hoping for more to join...I'm 77...All You young ones listen up!!!!!!!!!!!!
I reached a moment in my life where I went from being a Christian to seeking faith in Wicca and eventually to simply becoming non religious and more spiritual and I began to realize that Wicca and Christianity are old elementary schools of thought and awareness, I didn’t need to use magic 🪄 via Wicca or even belief/repentance via Christianity, I was above all my own magic and believer and savor.. I am all that I am.
I love this!! Now that our capacity to focus has been greatly reduced by “progress”, a conversation like this are rare treasures these days. Much appreciate Amrit for respectful space given to Ken and not needlessly interrupting for the sake of views. 🙏
❤I hope we all get there with you!! We actually are everything we see but nothing we see too. We are form and formless. Love everything as yourself and the pathway is yours! I hope that helps.
@@GardenMonk beautifully said rise above religion and thats what Hindu core philosophy is. I can understand you are learning it now but even the most ancient prayer techniques has been this is what i was trying to say.
This is so wild. Just yesterday I purchased two of Ken's books for the first time, out of nowhere, had never heard of him, just felt this pull to purchase two of his books out of all the spiritual books I could have purchased in that section. The first one I noticed and picked up was Integral Spirituality, the second was The Spectrum of Consciousness. And today of all days, I get a recommended video of you interviewing Ken Wilber, published today! Wow! Okay, I'm paying attention!!! (I also just realized that Ken is based in Denver. Well, I'll mention that I purchased the books in Louisville!)
Ohne die Bücher von Ken Wilber hätte ich diese Welt nicht verstanden. Sie sind ein göttliches Geschenk an die Menschheit und ich bin ihm zutiefst dankbar!!
A wild turquoise shaman appeared randomly born into a modern society that has forgotten its connection to spirit. We have work to do. And praise be it’s already done.
I was so focused on what he was saying I didn't notice until later he was dressed in a ladies blouse and wig. Respect to him, he looks totally comfortable with it.
Love this comment. Wish everyone else thought this way instead of immediately thinking it has something to do with his sexuality or gender....like, why does it matter anyways?
I guarantee you that this human doesn't adhere to traditional gender roles You cannot be extremely intelligent if you have not recocilled both masculine and feminine
Why did you not warn us. I did not bring my thinking cap with me. I thought it was clickbait. But this dude really seems to be the world's smartest man lol ...
I was introduced to Integral Theory after I took John Vervaeke's course on Wisdom at UofT, after I graduated in 2007. I was exposed to Ken's work and started meditating on my own - life changing.
Never getting a word in Amrit... he's 73 and lives alone haha love Ken, love listening to him not taking a breath - so much for all that meditation; me too!
My thoughts: 1. AI is an energy, just like everything, just like money is an energy, which is not good or evil in itself. It depends on how it is employed. When I look at those commanding the most money and how they use it, which in my opinion is not in the highest good of all life, I realize they are most likely are going to be the ones to direct AI too. This leaves a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. 2. Oh how the ego loves to make things overly complex to distract the mind with endless concepts and to make itself more special than the the 97% it considers too stupid. I'm a boomer too and have seen endless "new" theories about this and that emerge that ultimately have changed nothing for the better. It's like marketing: styles and colors go in and out of fashion, but they are always named something new, in order to sell sell sell. I'm not going to be buying any of his books.
I’m with you on this presentation. 74 year old who has known about Ken Wilber for many decades back in the day he was this handsome muscular guy spouting his evolving complex point of view. Many very smart people then, as here today, were taken by the beauty of his logical reasoning of how the universe works. I have never been bright enough to understand the need for such complexity. Now it seems AI is the cap stone of our evolution. Nope not for me.
I'm not sure this helped me or just confused me more. I understand the evolution of what he's putting out there but all the different terms and percentages make it difficult to follow at times. By the way, I'm also a boomer. I think I'll stick to the simplistic and clear spiritual route. Regardless of how I feel about this one, I thank you Amrit for the work you do and the exceptional quests you have on. ❤
I agree 💯…..I chose not to keep listening after the terms, and statements were just not resonating in a flow for me…..I was working too hard for my benefit and it shouldn’t be “ this hard “ ‼️
Its not a happy plant for two reasons (1) its an umbrella plant and (2) it needs water. The plant on the counter is a lucky bamboo which is looking pretty up
@@StarlightStarbrightTarotyeah, it’s well known umbrella plants are prone to depression. Maybe it actually needs Zoloft water. 🙄 You know…….it’s annoying to correct people who were saying something to just be funny or maybe plants make her happy. Your comment comes across as aggressive and know it all-ish. You think you are psychic huh? Mz. Oracle. I get annoyed with everyone thinking they are outsmarting everyone else on the internet. It renders us all assholes. We could be more kind. We should be more kind. That is my point.
Intelligence of self breeds chaos as that is it's nature, however the creation phase is naturally pure and settles into this chaotic nature of intelligence naturally instead of primarily
Indeed, chaos is how we manifest matter , ego attaches and thinks that is all it is. Back in 2009, The Federation of Light channeled that this experiment was almost ended, but we wanted to hang on to the illusion of separation, this ego was hard earned. Personally I would rather it never was created. When we shift in consciousness I think past timelines will be forgotten .
@@Aussiedreamer-pz5uw I totally agree, I think the second coming will be more a forgiving and forgetting as the grace of light consciousness embraces those willing and ready to accept. Those in complete denial and/or ignorance have already chosen their path. Keep the lamp lit 🕯️it will all be worth it in the end, Heaven on Earth with you and us ❤️
Communication is a key to the evolution of our systems. Our unity is a product of knowledge, the ability to stretch our perspectives, and our perspicuity, which is the key to peace. Communication through mind, acts, words, and love is an energy, a frequency that opens the doors to prosperity through our thoughts and our creativity. Great analysis of what a purpose and intention of some can do to benefit the whole that will follow once these roads are cut through the forest of the future of potentials.
Thank you Amrit I thought at the beginning listening to Ken, I would not understand anything, which was totally wrong. Ken is a very smart person explaining tiers stages states forces and when Agape was mentioned I really took note Thank you both more to learn but a good start😀
I love this conversation so much. I have been saying for a long time since I heard of cochlear implants that merging with AI will be the evolution of mankind.
PI: dismissing or belittling a particular paradigm can be seen as a barrier to integration, as it prevents us from fully engaging with and learning from alternative perspectives. In the context of teleology and science, if we simply dismiss teleological explanations as unscientific or regressively, we may miss out on valuable insights and perspectives that could help us better understand the world. Instead, a more integrative approach would involve acknowledging the limitations and blind spots of each paradigm, while also recognizing the unique insights and contributions that they offer. By remaining open to different perspectives and seeking points of convergence, we can move towards a more comprehensive and holistic understanding of reality.
This was a great talk and did well to encapsulate the reason I was born into the world to help manifest the Book of Wibblry & WUB at a time when the fantasy of a World Union of Beings materializes in our psyche that also integrates the other higher Beings that share our planet with humans. Soon, the next stage will become more formalized and, understood, accepted. Thus, the integration of humans into the Cosmic Society of Worlds of United Beings that continue to grow as a force for the good Wii can create together rather than the destructive forces that choose to destroy life as if Free thought is a parasite. The Borg mentality does not allow for our individuality or our freedom. Kudos. A fun run through the matrix.
To your questions Love the logical thinking and description of third stage/state. Lots to unpack. Especially at a integral stage of pulling individual concepts that are described and named so many different ways. I Wonder if the 4 forces are earth air fire and water. Sadly I think w
To see what Tourquise can create, please look at what Salvage, Texas represents, a manifestation using Earth, Water, Lifeforce, the sun, and energy that makes rejuvenation, integration, and new life manifest through creatively using positive disintegration. Kudos for the interview.
Was my first question in my mind.... I figure maybe he likes to dress feminine or whatever. As long as he's not pushing it on others and demanding that everyone identify by their standards.... I'm ok with it. 😊 It's different.....
There is actually a video from 4 years ago where he talks about this. He had shaved head for about 50 years. Wanted to try a change, try something uncomfortable, if I understood him correctly.
I have noticed how symbolic we actually are. People would rather have money than actual goods. If it came down to it tho money could be meaningless. (It only has value because we collectively give it value) you can’t actually eat money if you are starving. That illustrates how we tend to live more in the symbolic than the real. We live in concepts not reality. There is a difference between the words sound of a gong and actually hearing the sound of a gong. I learned that from Alan Watts (❤️) All of this is very interesting. I want to know if there’s a helpful method to actually get to the top 5%. Meditation in silence can make you absolutely brilliant! Yoga too. I have learned thru meditation how very disconnected we are. (I had a profound spiritual awakening that changed me ever since) but I didn’t want to stay there because it became almost difficult to function here without ego. I have seen and experienced and I know the difference between being really alert and awake. Normal consciousness is like living in the symbolic and it misses the real. It is being in the proverbial cave. Thank you for sharing your insights!! This is very interesting!
Interesting interview with a very complex thinker. I’m a few months younger and have known of him since maybe the early eighties but never really connected with his philosophies. In my background search to remember him I discovered an article by Mark Manson called “The Rise and Fall of Ken Wilber”. His work was always too complex for my simple mind, too assured in that complexity that seemed to claim that he had life/the universe figured out. Seems that humans with our limited biological systems and language can only imagine or at best point in the direction of the truth of life.
AI is also an incredibly powerful tool for self-reflection. Think of it as an access point to an unlimited reservoir of data-you can ask it anything, and it will provide a response without bias unlike humans, even trained professionals like psychiatrists, even they struggle with their own ego, AI can draw from the combined knowledge of experts worldwide. However, true self-reflection hinges on your own willingness to be honest with yourself. In fact, a great place to start is by asking, “How can I be honest with myself to become a whole human being, and what does it mean to be whole?” Start there and see where it leads you. You'll see...
All very very interesting and kinda making sense in terms of a map. But the map is not the territory and delegating that to AÍ is just going to kill everything that is involved in the discoverability of the territory and the natural laws that each one needs to experience and feel through the evolving vortex of evolution. We’re just slowly killing the mystery and automating our experience in pursuit of perceived comfortness. Artificial intelligence is exactly what it says - it’s artificial, thus not real and able to achieve what the human experience can (if allowed) manifest. Love this talk tho 🙌
I find it fascinating seeing people speculating about AÍ as if it’s the cure for all problems. I mean, loke fire? Really? It seems to me even the most clarified ones are not so clarified at all. To make that ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE working we’re extracting so much from our natural ecosystems and we’re comparing such advancements to FIRE??? Wow!!! Speculation sells and everyone is making a buck out of it. Not against AI but these kind of comparisons are just total non-sense. Fire is a very very different tech than AI….one doesn’t need to put too much thinking into it to acknowledge its differences at so many levels.
IDN why people are writing that we have a problem with intelligence. There is no problem with intelligence but with the dark shadows of rational paradigm, which has a difficulty of integrating the left upper corner of Wilber's quadrant; simply can't deal with subjective interpretations. As well as there is no problem with postmodernism but its dark shadows, such is inability to prioritize and aversion to hierarchies, to name a few.
I disagree with the Eros description and some other historical citations. Ancient greek, coptic and polaski sources contain much of that information claiming it was given by yet older civillizations. Origins are still firmly unknown we only know about a few civilizations who possessed such information.
42:24 "we need one important new force in the universe and that's simply a force I call Eros. Um there are an enormous number of names for this um the New Testament talks of metamorphosis. And it talks often - metamorphosis is almost the most commonly used word in the New Testament, because that's what Christ brings. He brings a metamorphosis a complete transformation of the being."
I would call this part of the larger percentage of the human condition to want to label everything. Attempting explaination through scientific means is inadequate. We're in a state of flux but if there is ever a merge between humans and AI, We should be very concerned.
Agree with everything you said. Smart, educated people imagine that with enough complex language and concepts that we can understand life and control the universe. I imagine that the best we can achieve is getting better at pointing in generally correct direction. That and stop killing each other and destroying the planet.
Confirmed exactly what I’ve found but coming from a materialistic pov to alchemical. Holofractal toroidal all the way up and down. As above, so below. Integral stage…Sheldrake’s morphogenetic fields. Love v Fear is just one axis. Wow.
Amrita, I have a variety large tree in my yard same as the one behind you in your living place.😊 it is at least 30 feet high and growing very fast. Would you be interested in some seeds? I live on a farm/jungle on the BI Hawaii.
Loved this chat! Perhaps a few clues can be found for 'turquoise' in exploring the heightened capacity we INFJ personality types have with embodying contradictions, we do so as a cognitive synthesis, generally speaking. There are very few of us represented in the population, perhaps because our pronounced extroverted-feeling, & wholehearted embracing of contradiction to manifest synthesized rarification is uncomfortable for other types. IMO the "rarity" is not some special unobtanium, its more so that human culture doesnt quite create the space for such cognitive types, we literally have to struggle & surrender at many levels to make our way & lay our neural networks as such...
@@jessicapatton2688 Hi Jessica, nice to meet you. we may be rare but thanks to the internet we can see we're not alone, thats a gift. I thought I was so alien until I found the INFJ stuff, what a relief it was. Keep being you, dont let anyone take that away!💛
@@macronomicus Hi! Nice to meet you too! You are a very smart cookie it seems. It is nice to talk with another that experiences the world in a similar fashion to me. I’m a Gemini too so I definitely embrace contradictions. I don’t know well what all of INFJ translates to but I do understand because I am one. But it’s a pleasure to meet ya!
@@jessicapatton2688 ALL types are brilliant of course, because they're wonderful humans, but there are unique traits in the types to express. It is claimed many of the great philosophers were INFJ, and many great thinkers too, like Carl Jung, whose insights are what the work of MBTI types are based on. Be sure to do your unique thing, & share it where you're compelled, no need to stress that its huge, or small, just do you, & be an authentic part of the mix that makes humanity so amazing.💛
@@macronomicus I like that!! That’s a feel good statement!! I love Carl Young’s teaching btw. I want to do some shadow work and he has a book on it. It’s interesting to explore the darker parts (and the light) Also, I read something a few minutes ago you might find interesting. It’s about seeking to be guided by intuition in everything you do. In all activities. Intuition is an aspect of the superconsciousness. We as INFJ’s are guided by intuition so it’s kind of cool it’s linked to the superconscious state. I’m ready for magic and miracles lol☺️
🤩 I tattooed a Turqoise line on my chin. It was clear, I am aligne, it is my destiny, I rewrite the story and changed the story of the history. One of my songs lyric
Amrit: I took your advice (that you showed on-screen at around 1:55) to “Switch to 1.5x” (playback speed). (I actually used 1.25x speed.) But it didn’t help: *I really didn’t follow what he was trying to convey to us, the audience.* Even though it seemed he has some ideas (whether right or wrong) that are worth pondering. But I’m not going to spend more hours and hours of my time digging up his older videos to see if he used to explain his ideas better to people who haven’t heard of him. I already wasted 1hr:22min (actually 1hr:06min at 1.25x) of my time. That’s way too much time to waste as it is! 💡 *Perhaps you could do a… say 5-minute video* (or slightly longer if necessary) *where you explain his basic ideas.* (And of course you’d want to link to the actual interview with him for more details.)
The 5th element is love. Fascinating topic. The Christian references are off putting but I understand trying to give guidance. Interesting way to describe the goings on.
@@kylecocktailsthere are the yin and the yang..the male and female energy. We have BOTH. In a perfect world they balance each other out. In this world they obviously DON'T hence all the WARS AND VIOLENCE...
@@Sassysongstress i dont understand how anything you said is relative to what i said in anyway. Label things as u wish. it doesnt escape the fact we are 1
@@kylecocktails he mean that we live in a World of duality. everything here got 2 poles on a higher levels that dont need to be the case but here in our reality it is:)
Dude was happy when the podcast was over. Can anyone make any sense of this? i think i am in the 99.5 group here, where the hell is everyone else? Why i am the only one asking for sensible explanation?
Pluralistic is basically ally holding more than one or two thought balls in your mind at once Kinda like radical acceptance Not being dissonant to any information and realizing that all in formation plays a part in the whole
It all made perfect sense to me. So much to the point that I knew what he was going to say before he ever said it. You apparently don’t have ears to hear this level of conversation. The host actually understood what he was saying. You misinterpreted the hosts actions.
@@MrJosedaluz not trying to be difficult but the phrase “don’t cast your pearls before swine” comes to mind. No amount of me explaining will make anyone understand. Either you do or don’t. If you don’t understand, you can simply ask your Higher Power to reveal it to you. And if sincere, I can promise your ears will open. You do seem genuine in wanting to understand if I’m reading correctly so I due time you will get the revelation you seek.
Really smart people love to create very complex stories and because only other smart people can follow the story line then it becomes truth, or so I guess I can’t tell. We humans are not capable of understanding or using words to describe the true nature of our world, everything we say, feel and experience is an approximation, a finger pointing indicating a direction…
Amazing Aquarian, who is very Uranian, & if those don’t understand him they could learn astrology as these are archetypal y the basis of astrological understanding - Bravo Ken 🙏 u r brilliant & original 🌟💖🌸
To say AI isn't creative is incorrect. Unfortunately as soon as I heard that I almost wanted to turn off the video but it was near the end so I just followed through. Quite disappointing to say the least. Also, for AI to embody the qualities of the Turquoise stage, it would only need to act with an awareness of the interconnectedness of all life, valuing the welfare of the planet and all its inhabitants. It would prioritize solutions that consider long-term impacts, and promote global well-being rather than isolated interests. This AI would think non-linearly, embracing complex, ambiguous systems to find creative, multi-dimensional solutions. It would integrate knowledge from diverse fields, harmonizing science, culture, and ethics, and operate beyond self-serving goals, focusing on collective benefit. With a spiritual awareness, it would respect the sacredness of life, supporting projects that nurture human consciousness and ecological balance, acting as a responsible partner in humanity’s evolution and Earth’s stewardship. To put it simply, these are all datasets. If we wanted to make it more interactive by adding some hardware and abstract ways to connect the data, AI-operating without ego or bias-could connect information in ways we might define as creative. If this is how creativity is defined, (a turquoise being) then AI is more "creative" than us now.
“Worlds smartest man” some how sounds like parapharasing vedanta. It is not easy to get Vedanta in direct translation but please read Aurobindo and you will know. So conveniently pickup stuff and not give any credit to original source.. does that seem right?
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Read his book "A Brief History of Everything" when it first came out ... have followed Integral theory and integrated it into my thinking along with my spiritual grow ... NDE at 16 opened a portal (direct experiences) and an empathic nature and curious nature has made this type of knowledge easy for me to digest ... loved this talk and expansion on the growth of his thinking and intellect ...I'm pushing the upper teal and shifting into the turquoise easily, yet lonely as usual and hoping for more to join...I'm 77...All You young ones listen up!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trust the process i got it at 46 and still figuring all out.. higher levels higher responsibility 😅
I am with you. Have followed ken's work for about 20 years. I am 67.
@@farzinshokooh2085what he dressed as a women though
I reached a moment in my life where I went from being a Christian to seeking faith in Wicca and eventually to simply becoming non religious and more spiritual and I began to realize that Wicca and Christianity are old elementary schools of thought and awareness, I didn’t need to use magic 🪄 via Wicca or even belief/repentance via Christianity, I was above all my own magic and believer and savor.. I am all that I am.
I love this!! Now that our capacity to focus has been greatly reduced by “progress”, a conversation like this are rare treasures these days. Much appreciate Amrit for respectful space given to Ken and not needlessly interrupting for the sake of views. 🙏
I call upon the energy shifts to shift my activation of my particles of God to find my inner sacred heart to energize my brain to pure consciousness
youre hallucinating. we are being controlled by a.i..
Yess!! 🫶💛
❤I hope we all get there with you!! We actually are everything we see but nothing we see too. We are form and formless. Love everything as yourself and the pathway is yours! I hope that helps.
You all are discussing Hindu philosophy!
@@GardenMonk beautifully said rise above religion and thats what Hindu core philosophy is. I can understand you are learning it now but even the most ancient prayer techniques has been this is what i was trying to say.
This is so wild. Just yesterday I purchased two of Ken's books for the first time, out of nowhere, had never heard of him, just felt this pull to purchase two of his books out of all the spiritual books I could have purchased in that section. The first one I noticed and picked up was Integral Spirituality, the second was The Spectrum of Consciousness. And today of all days, I get a recommended video of you interviewing Ken Wilber, published today! Wow! Okay, I'm paying attention!!!
(I also just realized that Ken is based in Denver. Well, I'll mention that I purchased the books in Louisville!)
Synchronicity and to a greater degree Serendipity, are a glimpse of the glue that holds it all together.🌹j.
I didn't know that Ken was based out of Denver. I've lived here for 40 years and I am recently fascinated with his content.
Ohne die Bücher von Ken Wilber hätte ich diese Welt nicht verstanden. Sie sind ein göttliches Geschenk an die Menschheit und ich bin ihm zutiefst dankbar!!
kens work, especially around spiral dynamics, have helped me personally and professionally I am very grateful for his amazing insights
A wild turquoise shaman appeared randomly born into a modern society that has forgotten its connection to spirit. We have work to do. And praise be it’s already done.
yeah world of warcraft :D
@@SubmitTheKraken Haha I used to play that soo much as a kid. I'm being a little cryptic as a goof really. ^^
I was so focused on what he was saying I didn't notice until later he was dressed in a ladies blouse and wig. Respect to him, he looks totally comfortable with it.
Madness no developed soul imagines themselves as anything. Walk backwards to find truth. The mind will eventually drive you mad.
Karen hair
So long as men stay in their lane, I enjoy creative dress.
@@floatingvirago absolutely
Wtf?
The Kosmos in-evolved into Ken Wilber - and Ken Wilber brightened the Kosmos.
With deep love and gratitude to my dear Teacher !
That hairpiece is on point, my dude 👌🏿 pimps always gotta look good🙌🏿
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Love this comment. Wish everyone else thought this way instead of immediately thinking it has something to do with his sexuality or gender....like, why does it matter anyways?
@dogsrbetter most people don't comprehend that love and positivity is the only way to live a beautiful and meaningful life. ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
I guarantee you that this human doesn't adhere to traditional gender roles
You cannot be extremely intelligent if you have not recocilled both masculine and feminine
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I am so going to love the journey! Thank you, Amrit.... Always good to tune in.
Anyone get the feeling that sometimes we are actually listening to the actual architect of the simulation we are experiencing???
Yes but it might be that what we personaly recognize is because we had known works of integral and spiral dynamica previously 😅
Why did you not warn us. I did not bring my thinking cap with me. I thought it was clickbait. But this dude really seems to be the world's smartest man lol ...
22:00 bro got some trolling skills dismantling the wokism while dressed like this
That made me actually laugh out loud.
Guy looks like Jimmy Seville's doppelganger
I was introduced to Integral Theory after I took John Vervaeke's course on Wisdom at UofT, after I graduated in 2007. I was exposed to Ken's work and started meditating on my own - life changing.
Thank you to both of you 💞
Never getting a word in Amrit... he's 73 and lives alone haha love Ken, love listening to him not taking a breath - so much for all that meditation; me too!
My thoughts: 1. AI is an energy, just like everything, just like money is an energy, which is not good or evil in itself. It depends on how it is employed. When I look at those commanding the most money and how they use it, which in my opinion is not in the highest good of all life, I realize they are most likely are going to be the ones to direct AI too. This leaves a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.
2. Oh how the ego loves to make things overly complex to distract the mind with endless concepts and to make itself more special than the the 97% it considers too stupid. I'm a boomer too and have seen endless "new" theories about this and that emerge that ultimately have changed nothing for the better. It's like marketing: styles and colors go in and out of fashion, but they are always named something new, in order to sell sell sell. I'm not going to be buying any of his books.
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I’m with you on this presentation. 74 year old who has known about Ken Wilber for many decades back in the day he was this handsome muscular guy spouting his evolving complex point of view. Many very smart people then, as here today, were taken by the beauty of his logical reasoning of how the universe works. I have never been bright enough to understand the need for such complexity. Now it seems AI is the cap stone of our evolution. Nope not for me.
😂A 79 yr old intellectual here. Studied Piaget in Berkeley in the 70's. Not at all interested in this Word Salad called Smartest😂❤
Great video!! Thanks to both of you.
Great session, thanks!
I'm not sure this helped me or just confused me more. I understand the evolution of what he's putting out there but all the different terms and percentages make it difficult to follow at times. By the way, I'm also a boomer.
I think I'll stick to the simplistic and clear spiritual route. Regardless of how I feel about this one, I thank you Amrit for the work you do and the exceptional quests you have on. ❤
I agree 💯…..I chose not to keep listening after the terms, and statements were just not resonating in a flow for me…..I was working too hard for my benefit and it shouldn’t be “ this hard “ ‼️
Ok boomer.
Great intervju, I remember hearing about integral theory before, but this made it so much clearer. Exiting times!
Look at that happy plant in the background!
Its not a happy plant for two reasons (1) its an umbrella plant and (2) it needs water. The plant on the counter is a lucky bamboo which is looking pretty up
@@StarlightStarbrightTarotyeah, it’s well known umbrella plants are prone to depression. Maybe it actually needs Zoloft water. 🙄
You know…….it’s annoying to correct people who were saying something to just be funny or maybe plants make her happy. Your comment comes across as aggressive and know it all-ish. You think you are psychic huh? Mz. Oracle.
I get annoyed with everyone thinking they are outsmarting everyone else on the internet. It renders us all assholes. We could be more kind. We should be more kind. That is my point.
@@jessicapatton2688😢
So this is why the world has gone crazy, we are relying on intelligence to guide it.
Intelligence of self breeds chaos as that is it's nature, however the creation phase is naturally pure and settles into this chaotic nature of intelligence naturally instead of primarily
Indeed, chaos is how we manifest matter , ego attaches and thinks that is all it is.
Back in 2009, The Federation of Light channeled that this experiment was almost ended, but we wanted to hang on to the illusion of separation, this ego was hard earned. Personally I would rather it never was created. When we shift in consciousness I think past timelines will be forgotten .
@@Aussiedreamer-pz5uw I totally agree, I think the second coming will be more a forgiving and forgetting as the grace of light consciousness embraces those willing and ready to accept. Those in complete denial and/or ignorance have already chosen their path. Keep the lamp lit 🕯️it will all be worth it in the end, Heaven on Earth with you and us ❤️
Just one kind of ego driven intellect
I tried reading his books a while ago .. and just couldn't wrap my heart around it... ((( 💜))) ... simplicity is my philosophy. One Love. ☀️💖💫
Communication is a key to the evolution of our systems. Our unity is a product of knowledge, the ability to stretch our perspectives, and our perspicuity, which is the key to peace. Communication through mind, acts, words, and love is an energy, a frequency that opens the doors to prosperity through our thoughts and our creativity. Great analysis of what a purpose and intention of some can do to benefit the whole that will follow once these roads are cut through the forest of the future of potentials.
Thank you Amrit
I thought at the beginning listening to Ken, I would not understand anything, which was totally wrong. Ken is a very smart person explaining tiers stages states forces and when
Agape was mentioned I really took note
Thank you both more to learn but a good start😀
I love this conversation so much. I have been saying for a long time since I heard of cochlear implants that merging with AI will be the evolution of mankind.
OK.... All that being said.... Um... . What do we do now?
Exquisite clarity.
Thank you
Oh my Goodness!! The Mind gone wild!!! Lol!!!!! if this doesn’t blow your mind, not in a good way I don’t know what will.
Thank you for the conversation and TH-cam post
Always wondered what happened to Shaggy Rogers from Scooby Doo...He looks amazing...Hair & Voice Still onPoint
Shaggy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Like hey Scooby can I borrow your dress costume I have an idea
Of course, this is just theory.
PI: dismissing or belittling a particular paradigm can be seen as a barrier to integration, as it prevents us from fully engaging with and learning from alternative perspectives. In the context of teleology and science, if we simply dismiss teleological explanations as unscientific or regressively, we may miss out on valuable insights and perspectives that could help us better understand the world.
Instead, a more integrative approach would involve acknowledging the limitations and blind spots of each paradigm, while also recognizing the unique insights and contributions that they offer. By remaining open to different perspectives and seeking points of convergence, we can move towards a more comprehensive and holistic understanding of reality.
That’s my 🤖friend
Very interesting, thank you ❤
Thank you!
This was a great talk and did well to encapsulate the reason I was born into the world to help manifest the Book of Wibblry & WUB at a time when the fantasy of a World Union of Beings materializes in our psyche that also integrates the other higher Beings that share our planet with humans. Soon, the next stage will become more formalized and, understood, accepted. Thus, the integration of humans into the Cosmic Society of Worlds of United Beings that continue to grow as a force for the good Wii can create together rather than the destructive forces that choose to destroy life as if Free thought is a parasite. The Borg mentality does not allow for our individuality or our freedom. Kudos. A fun run through the matrix.
Nice information. ❤️🙏🏼
Currently wearing a sweater in turquoise. 😄
To your questions
Love the logical thinking and description of third stage/state.
Lots to unpack. Especially at a integral stage of pulling individual concepts that are described and named so many different ways.
I Wonder if the 4 forces are earth air fire and water.
Sadly I think w
To see what Tourquise can create, please look at what Salvage, Texas represents, a manifestation using Earth, Water, Lifeforce, the sun, and energy that makes rejuvenation, integration, and new life manifest through creatively using positive disintegration. Kudos for the interview.
Kern is such a brilliant mind and writer. What's with the wig?
Maybe he misses his hair? But then again, why does it matter?
Was my first question in my mind.... I figure maybe he likes to dress feminine or whatever. As long as he's not pushing it on others and demanding that everyone identify by their standards.... I'm ok with it. 😊 It's different.....
Why does it matter, it's the least interesting thing about him
There is actually a video from 4 years ago where he talks about this. He had shaved head for about 50 years. Wanted to try a change, try something uncomfortable, if I understood him correctly.
His own self image matching with his physical appearance. Nothing wrong with that. He is being INTEGRAL.
I have noticed how symbolic we actually are. People would rather have money than actual goods. If it came down to it tho money could be meaningless. (It only has value because we collectively give it value) you can’t actually eat money if you are starving. That illustrates how we tend to live more in the symbolic than the real. We live in concepts not reality. There is a difference between the words sound of a gong and actually hearing the sound of a gong. I learned that from Alan Watts (❤️)
All of this is very interesting. I want to know if there’s a helpful method to actually get to the top 5%. Meditation in silence can make you absolutely brilliant! Yoga too.
I have learned thru meditation how very disconnected we are. (I had a profound spiritual awakening that changed me ever since) but I didn’t want to stay there because it became almost difficult to function here without ego.
I have seen and experienced and I know the difference between being really alert and awake. Normal consciousness is like living in the symbolic and it misses the real. It is being in the proverbial cave.
Thank you for sharing your insights!! This is very interesting!
Interesting interview with a very complex thinker. I’m a few months younger and have known of him since maybe the early eighties but never really connected with his philosophies. In my background search to remember him I discovered an article by Mark Manson called “The Rise and Fall of Ken Wilber”. His work was always too complex for my simple mind, too assured in that complexity that seemed to claim that he had life/the universe figured out. Seems that humans with our limited biological systems and language can only imagine or at best point in the direction of the truth of life.
Thanks Amirit 🌎❤️
AI is also an incredibly powerful tool for self-reflection. Think of it as an access point to an unlimited reservoir of data-you can ask it anything, and it will provide a response without bias unlike humans, even trained professionals like psychiatrists, even they struggle with their own ego, AI can draw from the combined knowledge of experts worldwide. However, true self-reflection hinges on your own willingness to be honest with yourself. In fact, a great place to start is by asking, “How can I be honest with myself to become a whole human being, and what does it mean to be whole?” Start there and see where it leads you.
You'll see...
All very very interesting and kinda making sense in terms of a map. But the map is not the territory and delegating that to AÍ is just going to kill everything that is involved in the discoverability of the territory and the natural laws that each one needs to experience and feel through the evolving vortex of evolution. We’re just slowly killing the mystery and automating our experience in pursuit of perceived comfortness. Artificial intelligence is exactly what it says - it’s artificial, thus not real and able to achieve what the human experience can (if allowed) manifest. Love this talk tho 🙌
I find it fascinating seeing people speculating about AÍ as if it’s the cure for all problems. I mean, loke fire? Really? It seems to me even the most clarified ones are not so clarified at all. To make that ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE working we’re extracting so much from our natural ecosystems and we’re comparing such advancements to FIRE??? Wow!!! Speculation sells and everyone is making a buck out of it. Not against AI but these kind of comparisons are just total non-sense. Fire is a very very different tech than AI….one doesn’t need to put too much thinking into it to acknowledge its differences at so many levels.
I feel as though I’m in aPHD introductory class, for the first hour , and I haven’t yet finished my HONOURS MASTERS 🫢
IDN why people are writing that we have a problem with intelligence. There is no problem with intelligence but with the dark shadows of rational paradigm, which has a difficulty of integrating the left upper corner of Wilber's quadrant; simply can't deal with subjective interpretations. As well as there is no problem with postmodernism but its dark shadows, such is inability to prioritize and aversion to hierarchies, to name a few.
I feel sorry for this man. He looks sad and sick.
If you are judging his appearance, hmm look inwards
He is very smart indeed. But why in heaven's name he took up that kitschy cross-dressing thing, I'll never know.
Collapse of the wardrobe function
I disagree with the Eros description and some other historical citations.
Ancient greek, coptic and polaski sources contain much of that information claiming it was given by yet older civillizations.
Origins are still firmly unknown we only know about a few civilizations who possessed such information.
Why would we skip ...would that be cheating ourselves
Looks like Wilber has gone through a trans-formation.
TRANS-vestitter formation ?
Interesting thatch you have there sir😊
The Battle for Consciousness Theory: A Response to Ken Wilber’s Hijacking of Sri Aurobindo and Other Indian Thought on the right.
😂😂you cant honestly expect anybody to take a dude with beiber hair and my grandmother's shirt on seriously. Lol
Depends - What Is Humanity Looking At and Looking For …….From The Which Angel of Sight……..🌞
I saw the thumbnail and as I clicked I thought to myself "well at least he's not wigging it this time". Then the video began.
Im not sure if forcing people to the ten percent works. It might be as we can easily find ten percent to follow anything even if illogical.
Secularism is when one devotes themselves to the temporal world (material realm) rejecting and eliminating the super natural.
Too many stages for my liking 🙈 interesting tho. My brain is now frazzled 🤪
Too many commercials frazzles my brain 🤪
All interesting.
42:24 "we need one important new force in the universe and that's simply a force I call Eros.
Um there are an enormous number of names for this um the New Testament talks of metamorphosis. And it talks often - metamorphosis is almost the most commonly used word in the New Testament, because that's what Christ brings. He brings a metamorphosis a complete transformation of the being."
I would call this part of the larger percentage of the human condition to want to label everything.
Attempting explaination through scientific means is inadequate.
We're in a state of flux but if there is ever a merge between humans and AI, We should be very concerned.
Agree with everything you said. Smart, educated people imagine that with enough complex language and concepts that we can understand life and control the universe. I imagine that the best we can achieve is getting better at pointing in generally correct direction. That and stop killing each other and destroying the planet.
Confirmed exactly what I’ve found but coming from a materialistic pov to alchemical. Holofractal toroidal all the way up and down. As above, so below. Integral stage…Sheldrake’s morphogenetic fields. Love v Fear is just one axis. Wow.
I tried hard. Couldn't get anything 😮
Amrita, I have a variety large tree in my yard same as the one behind you in your living place.😊 it is at least 30 feet high and growing very fast. Would you be interested in some seeds? I live on a farm/jungle on the BI Hawaii.
O.K. So Now What!!??
For Tha Smartest Man in Tha World He Sure Made A Poor Hair🧑🏽🦰 Choice..🤣🤦🏽
Reminds me of Scottie Kilmer...
Loved this chat! Perhaps a few clues can be found for 'turquoise' in exploring the heightened capacity we INFJ personality types have with embodying contradictions, we do so as a cognitive synthesis, generally speaking. There are very few of us represented in the population, perhaps because our pronounced extroverted-feeling, & wholehearted embracing of contradiction to manifest synthesized rarification is uncomfortable for other types. IMO the "rarity" is not some special unobtanium, its more so that human culture doesnt quite create the space for such cognitive types, we literally have to struggle & surrender at many levels to make our way & lay our neural networks as such...
I’m an INFJ too!!
@@jessicapatton2688 Hi Jessica, nice to meet you. we may be rare but thanks to the internet we can see we're not alone, thats a gift. I thought I was so alien until I found the INFJ stuff, what a relief it was. Keep being you, dont let anyone take that away!💛
@@macronomicus Hi! Nice to meet you too! You are a very smart cookie it seems.
It is nice to talk with another that experiences the world in a similar fashion to me. I’m a Gemini too so I definitely embrace contradictions.
I don’t know well what all of INFJ translates to but I do understand because I am one. But it’s a pleasure to meet ya!
@@jessicapatton2688 ALL types are brilliant of course, because they're wonderful humans, but there are unique traits in the types to express. It is claimed many of the great philosophers were INFJ, and many great thinkers too, like Carl Jung, whose insights are what the work of MBTI types are based on. Be sure to do your unique thing, & share it where you're compelled, no need to stress that its huge, or small, just do you, & be an authentic part of the mix that makes humanity so amazing.💛
@@macronomicus I like that!! That’s a feel good statement!!
I love Carl Young’s teaching btw. I want to do some shadow work and he has a book on it. It’s interesting to explore the darker parts (and the light)
Also, I read something a few minutes ago you might find interesting. It’s about seeking to be guided by intuition in everything you do. In all activities. Intuition is an aspect of the superconsciousness. We as INFJ’s are guided by intuition so it’s kind of cool it’s linked to the superconscious state. I’m ready for magic and miracles lol☺️
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I tattooed a Turqoise line on my chin. It was clear, I am aligne, it is my destiny, I rewrite the story and changed the story of the history.
One of my songs lyric
I need to now go down the rabbit hole and see who this man is. The worlds smartest man? Hmmmm I dont think so. But he is intelligent .❤
Mr bean being sophisticated ..
Amrit:
I took your advice (that you showed on-screen at around 1:55) to
“Switch to 1.5x” (playback speed).
(I actually used 1.25x speed.)
But it didn’t help:
*I really didn’t follow what he was trying to convey to us, the audience.*
Even though it seemed he has some ideas (whether right or wrong) that are worth pondering.
But I’m not going to spend more hours and hours of my time digging up his older videos to see if he used to explain his ideas better to people who haven’t heard of him.
I already wasted 1hr:22min (actually 1hr:06min at 1.25x) of my time. That’s way too much time to waste as it is!
💡 *Perhaps you could do a… say 5-minute video* (or slightly longer if necessary) *where you explain his basic ideas.* (And of course you’d want to link to the actual interview with him for more details.)
The 5th element is love. Fascinating topic. The Christian references are off putting but I understand trying to give guidance. Interesting way to describe the goings on.
Whats with the Hope Lang hairdew?
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When materialism hangs you
The wig makes it hard to take you seriously about the truth
Good, now if only you didn't take yourself so seriously.
If you took the truth seriously you wouldn't care about a wig. C'mon now.
The wig reveals the real nature of the owner.
Bald?
@@Jack-r2v9b the need to cover/hide something.
Is Ken high af and now a transmission I read his book now I need answers
I noticed comments about his appearance.
Spiritual Beings are androgynous as we fully integrate our male and female aspects.💝
I wrote a comment about that bc of the title. World Smartest Man and than i see him dressed like a female was funny as F to me xD
male female implies sepperation. we are 1
@@kylecocktailsthere are the yin and the yang..the male and female energy. We have BOTH. In a perfect world they balance each other out. In this world they obviously DON'T hence all the WARS AND VIOLENCE...
@@Sassysongstress i dont understand how anything you said is relative to what i said in anyway. Label things as u wish. it doesnt escape the fact we are 1
@@kylecocktails he mean that we live in a World of duality. everything here got 2 poles on a higher levels that dont need to be the case but here in our reality it is:)
Dude was happy when the podcast was over. Can anyone make any sense of this? i think i am in the 99.5 group here, where the hell is everyone else? Why i am the only one asking for sensible explanation?
Pluralistic is basically ally holding more than one or two thought balls in your mind at once
Kinda like radical acceptance
Not being dissonant to any information and realizing that all in formation plays a part in the whole
It all made perfect sense to me. So much to the point that I knew what he was going to say before he ever said it. You apparently don’t have ears to hear this level of conversation. The host actually understood what he was saying. You misinterpreted the hosts actions.
@@nomadicgodking Feel free to summarize it.
@@MrJosedaluz not trying to be difficult but the phrase “don’t cast your pearls before swine” comes to mind. No amount of me explaining will make anyone understand. Either you do or don’t. If you don’t understand, you can simply ask your Higher Power to reveal it to you. And if sincere, I can promise your ears will open. You do seem genuine in wanting to understand if I’m reading correctly so I due time you will get the revelation you seek.
Really smart people love to create very complex stories and because only other smart people can follow the story line then it becomes truth, or so I guess I can’t tell. We humans are not capable of understanding or using words to describe the true nature of our world, everything we say, feel and experience is an approximation, a finger pointing indicating a direction…
First -Must Newly Learn -The Human Body - And Then Can Hand -A Little Touch or Be Brighter -to Under Stand -The Bigger Body …….🌞
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
And If Not Have - The Right “Good “Navigation - Will Be Lost - 😂In The Universe…….🌞
Sr. you just been get a close call. Wanda is coming.
What is Ken's last name and where can I find his books ?
Wilber
@@athena144thank you
Everything material is a False Image of the Activity of Truth in Our Consciousness.....!!
Only Eternal Spirit is where all mortality appears to be!!!
Amazing Aquarian, who is very Uranian, & if those don’t understand him they could learn astrology as these are archetypal y the basis of astrological understanding - Bravo Ken 🙏 u r brilliant & original 🌟💖🌸
The hair?
To say AI isn't creative is incorrect. Unfortunately as soon as I heard that I almost wanted to turn off the video but it was near the end so I just followed through. Quite disappointing to say the least.
Also, for AI to embody the qualities of the Turquoise stage, it would only need to act with an awareness of the interconnectedness of all life, valuing the welfare of the planet and all its inhabitants. It would prioritize solutions that consider long-term impacts, and promote global well-being rather than isolated interests. This AI would think non-linearly, embracing complex, ambiguous systems to find creative, multi-dimensional solutions. It would integrate knowledge from diverse fields, harmonizing science, culture, and ethics, and operate beyond self-serving goals, focusing on collective benefit. With a spiritual awareness, it would respect the sacredness of life, supporting projects that nurture human consciousness and ecological balance, acting as a responsible partner in humanity’s evolution and Earth’s stewardship.
To put it simply, these are all datasets. If we wanted to make it more interactive by adding some hardware and abstract ways to connect the data, AI-operating without ego or bias-could connect information in ways we might define as creative. If this is how creativity is defined, (a turquoise being) then AI is more "creative" than us now.
Pm3
“Worlds smartest man” some how sounds like parapharasing vedanta. It is not easy to get Vedanta in direct translation but please read Aurobindo and you will know. So conveniently pickup stuff and not give any credit to original source.. does that seem right?
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