Those nerds will certainly get their feast! I'm advocating for the rest of us who want to fight and do boy stuff while those nerds decipher on whom the gods crush.
@@emotionaljonxvx Fair enough, but have you considered that the juicy lore nuggs provide some of us motivation to do clean boy things in the lands between?
He should’ve just kept his mouth shut about it. Drop it when it’s done. Telling us that something is coming and not giving any updates for over a year was a wrong move.
I don't mind that they gave us the drop last year. Gives us the smallest bit of insight. Really would have liked to have more consistent updates (or at least a disclaimer warning about how far out it would be), though they do love their mystery.
I couldn't have said it better before this game I was about to give up gaming but have since played all the souls games and awaiting the dlc for a whole new play threw..
These games truly are in a class of their own. I am filled simultaneously with excitement and dread at just how long they're taking just for this one DLC. Makes me worry for the next game in the series, though I trust whatever they do will be worth the wait.
While waiting for the DLC I got a PS5 went through Bloodborne, and Demon Souls remake, finished Dark Souls remastered with its DLC (never played the DLC), now playing Dark Souls 2 never finished its DLCs and then will go through Dark Souls 3 because I never finished the Ringed City, so I got some stuff to do until the DLC comes out😄
I envy you. Dark Souls 3 is my favorite to play on repeat. It's just so concise and focused in what it's trying to do. Do yourself a favor and get into a little bit of the PVP if you care to. It's my favorite of all the games for the PVP alone, and there's a lot of really great channels on TH-cam for how to get into it proper. Saint_Riot was my go-to for really understanding the nuances of the game and how to make a build that isn't just meta, but one that is creative and personal, while still viable.
@@emotionaljonxvx thanks for the suggestion, sure, I keep wanting to get into PVP with these games, but I am always just so focused on the base game that I neglect it 😅 I will check out the channel you suggested, also I was planning on making a Abyss Watcher build, and finish the game like that, and thinking of using the same for PVP, didn't look into this build too much, but I thought it sounds cool as a build :)
i hate this with every inch of my soul, even with the recent videos about the 3 hour preview session my hunger had been satisfied for only a little bit. 13 god damn days until this dlc drops and i know full well that its gonna be the greatest thing ive ever played next to the base game. Im so hyped up for the new lore and literally just everything but this wait is killing me and rotting me inside out. Why Miyazaki why have you forsaken us?
Maybe From will take notice from the number of seamless co op downloads. As of today there is over 3 nillion downloads. This pretty much shows what players want from multiplayer.
Binged all your videos last week. I played all the prior souls games offline, never had ps live so didn’t know what I was missing. I think I would have been one who loved the best form pvp. Maaaaan I hope you get what you asked Santa for, cause I want the same but I’m so scared we’ve been a bad boys and Miyazaki knows it. Can you eat coal? Dunno never tried
Eh, I play Fromsoft games for the level design, bosses, art design, soundtrack, lore, and the combat that prioritizes learning enemy movesets/tells, spacing and finding openings. Basically, everything but the multiplayer. I also don't find it important if a game I like has an active player base (some of the games I still play the most are 20 or 30 years old). I still play Sekiro all the time, btw, it's pretty much my comfort game, and I enjoy getting better at using different prosthetics and skill load outs.
So here's the thing, and you're not the first to say this. The way you want to play the games is not impeded by the existence of an optional multiplayer system. The point I want to get across is the way the Souls series implements multiplayer is unique and by not applying a strong focus to it in Elden Ring, they have diminished that experience. That, in turn, gives me fewer reasons to interact with the game long-term, as I am someone who very much enjoys the multiplayer. The way I see it, everyone who loves the level design, bosses, art design, soundtrack, lore, and the combat gets an amazing game every time they release something. But only on sparse occasions are the games accompanied by an improvement to the multiplayer that no other game has. I love all the same things you do about the games, but I also love the multiplayer and that is the weakest part of Elden Ring for me. And I can't go anywhere else to get the specific multiplayer I want from a game. And they include most of the pieces, so a few small adjustments would make a big difference. You have the game you want, which is great. I just want the game I want. tl;dr I love everything else about these games too, and these games do not lose anything by having better multiplayer, so is there really a good reason to argue against having better multiplayer, even if you personally don't care about it?
I definitely get people playing offline, nothing wrong with wanting a pure single player experience. I would definitely recommend trying out invasions and PVP more broadly. It can be stressful and aggravating, but it opens up the game is so many ways. It's really unique to this series and my favorite thing about the games.
I don't really play PvP altough I enjoy it. I would like more insentive to engage tho, like rewards based of your covenent like DS3. In it's very nature ER already has covenents, at least alot of room to divide factions, it would be a damn shame if they pass on this.
I think they've got the talent to develop a system where getting invaded and invading people both have the same level of incentive. Where I want to be invaded and I want to invade others, rather than just beating on one side, though that's a lot of fun too.
Interesting take and I respect your opinion. But I disagree. ER has reduced invasions more than any other FROM game. Yet it's the most successful. It got a free arena update. Yet the arena got quickly abandoned by PvPers. My conclusion is that whatever made ER so widely beloved, it was not the PvP/invasions.
I think you're right that Elden Ring is not beloved because of its PVP, but I think that's more because it's one of its weakest features. For a lot of people, ER is their first souls game and I think everyone hates PVP in their first souls experience. If not for the PVP of the earlier titles, I don't know that I'd keep as involved with them. It's an entire second game underneath the first that you can play forever, that is bolstered by the same things that made the initial experience great. It just needs proper support and incentive to engage with. I'd also say FromSoftware are masters of getting people out of their comfort zone and PVP is basically one big discomfort zone. They got me hooked, I think they can get everyone eventually with the right moves.
@@emotionaljonxvx Having PvP certainly adds a lot of replayability, agreed. But for many people, that comes after clearing the game first. I think it was a good choice to tone down invasions. ER is surprisingly approachable for new players, and reduced invasions suit that. Probably a reason for its success.
I think the way they tethered invasions to co-op players in Dark Souls 3 and locked it behind embers was excellent. Let's people play solo with minimal outside interference, but helped balance the co-op play by adding an active opposition. That all still exists, but it's just more restrictive, both for co-op (3 vs 4 players) and only 1 invader. For me, it's a backstep that doesn't really change how people use it, but it removes opportunities to interact with the system. I doubt it was a purchasing factor for the new 17M people buying the game who had never experienced invasions, and I'm confident the weaker invasion system is responsible for the diminished active player base 2 years out. Really, I just think less invasions makes the game way less unique and there is no other franchise you can get this sort of experience from. I want to see them improve it for all types of players, not weaken its placement.
PvP is what keeps the game alive long after the tourist leave the arena is far from abandoned what’s likely is that your over leveled playing at a low populated soul level
I ran in perimeter circles for hours, not leaving until I was certain I had found everything. Still missed like half the content. 10/10 first time experience
Right? It'd be really funny (in a cosmic way) if it was just lackluster. I'm mostly hoping for specific overhauls to systems I think could use work, but any additional content is certainly going to floor me.
That's pretty much exactly how I'm finding most souls veterans feel. The super long development cycle with long playthroughs on a game without much multiplayer incentive is really hurting the longevity of play. Really hoping they right the ship with the DLC.
I love the open world & how vast it is but the knight armor is awful. Raging Wolf Armor is nice but that’s it. The rest of the armor is clunky & too many wizard robes. I want to look good win or lose & ER lacks that. Too many reskinned bosses. I hope they put a lot of armor In the dlc. Armor customization was awful too.
I feel you for sure. The armor options are interesting (mostly outlandish), but I'm very simple with my fashion preferences. I want dirty, pragmatic plate armor that looks good stained with blood. And yeah, armor customization was a silly thing that needs a ton of work. I want recoloring, different accents on each piece, different cloak options, etc. Fashion souls or bust!
Sorry to burst your bubble. But the elden ring dlc will not be fixing the pvp. This is what we have because the game is not made for that. It is made for the people who will play the game once put it down and never play it again.
Yeah, that is my deep dark concern. It’s just such a damn shame with how robust so many other elements of the game are. Especially considering they’d only have to add a higher player count and maybe a single forced invasion zone to really help.
@@emotionaljonxvx I think this dlc might flop tbh. Idk I hope not but in my opinion I'm hoping it revolves around miquella since I'm a loner and don't really interact with the online side.
@@thenobody7509 It definitely could be a disappointment, considering just how long they've spent on it. I'm confident it'll be worth its weight and give everyone meaningful new content. Most of my concerns come from how evergreen it'll make the game, as right now I definitely find myself wishing another game was around the corner, rather than hoping they'll make this one last.
@@thenobody7509You’re just setting yourself up for disappointment thinking that way… Stop trying to predict and have a “vision” of what you want. Also, lose the unsubstantiated expectations. None of these are helping. It’ll absolutely be great regardless of what we get. Again, “I’m thinking it’ll flop” Most people won’t think that, but you’ll convince yourself it must have “flopped” so don’t think that
I totally get people wanting to separate the experience. When I first started playing back in the early Dark Souls days, I hated invasions. It wasn't until I started invading and letting myself get invaded that I really fell in love with the system. My big thing is that there is no other game where you can have a combined, seamless experience where single player is co-op is pvp. And of course they allow for you to play the game any way you'd like, which just furthers its value.
@@emotionaljonxvx now I do agree with that ya it’s intense I still remember my first invasion as Elden ring was my first souls game and I was like what dafuq is going on. It didn’t end well for me either lol. But I can definitely see how some people may not want any part of it. Personally I like it because I just like having to stay on my toes and I like that uncomfortable feeling souls games make me feel which sounds weird AF, I like the way souls games make me worry, make me nervous.
Completely get it. I love dark fantasy and survival horror, so it's only natural I would love feeling like I'm about to be murdered if I let my guard down. Nothing more immersive than being too scared to leave the undead burg because I know I can trade hands with these hollows, but I have no idea what awaits me atop the belfry. And the thrill of a black phantom when I least expect it, unparalleled terror.
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the way you explained WHAT makes FromSoftware's games 'special' is on point.
You're forgetting about the lore nerds, this DLC promises juicy nuggets to imply answers to our seething questions!
Those nerds will certainly get their feast! I'm advocating for the rest of us who want to fight and do boy stuff while those nerds decipher on whom the gods crush.
@@emotionaljonxvx
Fair enough, but have you considered that the juicy lore nuggs provide some of us motivation to do clean boy things in the lands between?
I am filthy and irrational, though inspired nonetheless.
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I don't think you're irrational...
It's gonna come with more questions than answers.
He should’ve just kept his mouth shut about it. Drop it when it’s done. Telling us that something is coming and not giving any updates for over a year was a wrong move.
More news to follow & there was NOTHING
2yrs + for a dlc , total of 7 years to complete …
I don't mind that they gave us the drop last year. Gives us the smallest bit of insight. Really would have liked to have more consistent updates (or at least a disclaimer warning about how far out it would be), though they do love their mystery.
I couldn't have said it better before this game I was about to give up gaming but have since played all the souls games and awaiting the dlc for a whole new play threw..
These games truly are in a class of their own. I am filled simultaneously with excitement and dread at just how long they're taking just for this one DLC. Makes me worry for the next game in the series, though I trust whatever they do will be worth the wait.
While waiting for the DLC I got a PS5 went through Bloodborne, and Demon Souls remake, finished Dark Souls remastered with its DLC (never played the DLC), now playing Dark Souls 2 never finished its DLCs and then will go through Dark Souls 3 because I never finished the Ringed City, so I got some stuff to do until the DLC comes out😄
I envy you. Dark Souls 3 is my favorite to play on repeat. It's just so concise and focused in what it's trying to do. Do yourself a favor and get into a little bit of the PVP if you care to. It's my favorite of all the games for the PVP alone, and there's a lot of really great channels on TH-cam for how to get into it proper. Saint_Riot was my go-to for really understanding the nuances of the game and how to make a build that isn't just meta, but one that is creative and personal, while still viable.
@@emotionaljonxvx thanks for the suggestion, sure, I keep wanting to get into PVP with these games, but I am always just so focused on the base game that I neglect it 😅 I will check out the channel you suggested, also I was planning on making a Abyss Watcher build, and finish the game like that, and thinking of using the same for PVP, didn't look into this build too much, but I thought it sounds cool as a build :)
i hate this with every inch of my soul, even with the recent videos about the 3 hour preview session my hunger had been satisfied for only a little bit. 13 god damn days until this dlc drops and i know full well that its gonna be the greatest thing ive ever played next to the base game. Im so hyped up for the new lore and literally just everything but this wait is killing me and rotting me inside out. Why Miyazaki why have you forsaken us?
Maybe From will take notice from the number of seamless co op downloads. As of today there is over 3 nillion downloads. This pretty much shows what players want from multiplayer.
Trailer Tomorrow!
Binged all your videos last week. I played all the prior souls games offline, never had ps live so didn’t know what I was missing. I think I would have been one who loved the best form pvp. Maaaaan I hope you get what you asked Santa for, cause I want the same but I’m so scared we’ve been a bad boys and Miyazaki knows it. Can you eat coal? Dunno never tried
Eh, I play Fromsoft games for the level design, bosses, art design, soundtrack, lore, and the combat that prioritizes learning enemy movesets/tells, spacing and finding openings. Basically, everything but the multiplayer. I also don't find it important if a game I like has an active player base (some of the games I still play the most are 20 or 30 years old). I still play Sekiro all the time, btw, it's pretty much my comfort game, and I enjoy getting better at using different prosthetics and skill load outs.
So here's the thing, and you're not the first to say this. The way you want to play the games is not impeded by the existence of an optional multiplayer system. The point I want to get across is the way the Souls series implements multiplayer is unique and by not applying a strong focus to it in Elden Ring, they have diminished that experience. That, in turn, gives me fewer reasons to interact with the game long-term, as I am someone who very much enjoys the multiplayer. The way I see it, everyone who loves the level design, bosses, art design, soundtrack, lore, and the combat gets an amazing game every time they release something. But only on sparse occasions are the games accompanied by an improvement to the multiplayer that no other game has. I love all the same things you do about the games, but I also love the multiplayer and that is the weakest part of Elden Ring for me. And I can't go anywhere else to get the specific multiplayer I want from a game. And they include most of the pieces, so a few small adjustments would make a big difference. You have the game you want, which is great. I just want the game I want.
tl;dr
I love everything else about these games too, and these games do not lose anything by having better multiplayer, so is there really a good reason to argue against having better multiplayer, even if you personally don't care about it?
Miyazaki-sama, onegai...
I’ve put 450 hours into this game offline only. Still playing it. Excited for more lore :)
I definitely get people playing offline, nothing wrong with wanting a pure single player experience. I would definitely recommend trying out invasions and PVP more broadly. It can be stressful and aggravating, but it opens up the game is so many ways. It's really unique to this series and my favorite thing about the games.
I don't really play PvP altough I enjoy it. I would like more insentive to engage tho, like rewards based of your covenent like DS3. In it's very nature ER already has covenents, at least alot of room to divide factions, it would be a damn shame if they pass on this.
I think they've got the talent to develop a system where getting invaded and invading people both have the same level of incentive. Where I want to be invaded and I want to invade others, rather than just beating on one side, though that's a lot of fun too.
Interesting take and I respect your opinion. But I disagree. ER has reduced invasions more than any other FROM game. Yet it's the most successful. It got a free arena update. Yet the arena got quickly abandoned by PvPers. My conclusion is that whatever made ER so widely beloved, it was not the PvP/invasions.
I disagree
I think you're right that Elden Ring is not beloved because of its PVP, but I think that's more because it's one of its weakest features. For a lot of people, ER is their first souls game and I think everyone hates PVP in their first souls experience. If not for the PVP of the earlier titles, I don't know that I'd keep as involved with them. It's an entire second game underneath the first that you can play forever, that is bolstered by the same things that made the initial experience great. It just needs proper support and incentive to engage with. I'd also say FromSoftware are masters of getting people out of their comfort zone and PVP is basically one big discomfort zone. They got me hooked, I think they can get everyone eventually with the right moves.
@@emotionaljonxvx Having PvP certainly adds a lot of replayability, agreed. But for many people, that comes after clearing the game first. I think it was a good choice to tone down invasions. ER is surprisingly approachable for new players, and reduced invasions suit that. Probably a reason for its success.
I think the way they tethered invasions to co-op players in Dark Souls 3 and locked it behind embers was excellent. Let's people play solo with minimal outside interference, but helped balance the co-op play by adding an active opposition. That all still exists, but it's just more restrictive, both for co-op (3 vs 4 players) and only 1 invader. For me, it's a backstep that doesn't really change how people use it, but it removes opportunities to interact with the system. I doubt it was a purchasing factor for the new 17M people buying the game who had never experienced invasions, and I'm confident the weaker invasion system is responsible for the diminished active player base 2 years out. Really, I just think less invasions makes the game way less unique and there is no other franchise you can get this sort of experience from. I want to see them improve it for all types of players, not weaken its placement.
PvP is what keeps the game alive long after the tourist leave the arena is far from abandoned what’s likely is that your over leveled playing at a low populated soul level
Remember that first time you start exploring limgrave. Holy shit what an experience.
I ran in perimeter circles for hours, not leaving until I was certain I had found everything. Still missed like half the content. 10/10 first time experience
Great video I think fromsoftware will bring back covenant
I really hope so. I would at least like to see some form of forced PVP zone that functions similarly, even if it's not literally a covenant.
Whatever it is, it’ll be peak
Right? It'd be really funny (in a cosmic way) if it was just lackluster. I'm mostly hoping for specific overhauls to systems I think could use work, but any additional content is certainly going to floor me.
I dominated Elden Ring from top to bottom, lost interest in it bc of lack of dlc & armor unlike the Dark Souls 2 & 3
That's pretty much exactly how I'm finding most souls veterans feel. The super long development cycle with long playthroughs on a game without much multiplayer incentive is really hurting the longevity of play. Really hoping they right the ship with the DLC.
I love the open world & how vast it is but the knight armor is awful. Raging Wolf Armor is nice but that’s it. The rest of the armor is clunky & too many wizard robes. I want to look good win or lose & ER lacks that. Too many reskinned bosses. I hope they put a lot of armor In the dlc. Armor customization was awful too.
I feel you for sure. The armor options are interesting (mostly outlandish), but I'm very simple with my fashion preferences. I want dirty, pragmatic plate armor that looks good stained with blood. And yeah, armor customization was a silly thing that needs a ton of work. I want recoloring, different accents on each piece, different cloak options, etc. Fashion souls or bust!
Sorry to burst your bubble. But the elden ring dlc will not be fixing the pvp. This is what we have because the game is not made for that. It is made for the people who will play the game once put it down and never play it again.
Yeah, that is my deep dark concern. It’s just such a damn shame with how robust so many other elements of the game are. Especially considering they’d only have to add a higher player count and maybe a single forced invasion zone to really help.
@@emotionaljonxvx I think this dlc might flop tbh. Idk I hope not but in my opinion I'm hoping it revolves around miquella since I'm a loner and don't really interact with the online side.
@@thenobody7509 It definitely could be a disappointment, considering just how long they've spent on it. I'm confident it'll be worth its weight and give everyone meaningful new content. Most of my concerns come from how evergreen it'll make the game, as right now I definitely find myself wishing another game was around the corner, rather than hoping they'll make this one last.
@@thenobody7509You’re just setting yourself up for disappointment thinking that way… Stop trying to predict and have a “vision” of what you want. Also, lose the unsubstantiated expectations. None of these are helping. It’ll absolutely be great regardless of what we get. Again, “I’m thinking it’ll flop” Most people won’t think that, but you’ll convince yourself it must have “flopped” so don’t think that
@@thenobody7509fromsoftware rarely disappoint. DLC is gonna be fire.
I specifically play offline to avoid invasion. If I wanted pvp, I would play CoD
Bad take 🤷🏽
I don’t thinks it’s a bad take that’s how they want to play the game.
I totally get people wanting to separate the experience. When I first started playing back in the early Dark Souls days, I hated invasions. It wasn't until I started invading and letting myself get invaded that I really fell in love with the system. My big thing is that there is no other game where you can have a combined, seamless experience where single player is co-op is pvp. And of course they allow for you to play the game any way you'd like, which just furthers its value.
@@emotionaljonxvx now I do agree with that ya it’s intense I still remember my first invasion as Elden ring was my first souls game and I was like what dafuq is going on. It didn’t end well for me either lol. But I can definitely see how some people may not want any part of it. Personally I like it because I just like having to stay on my toes and I like that uncomfortable feeling souls games make me feel which sounds weird AF, I like the way souls games make me worry, make me nervous.
Completely get it. I love dark fantasy and survival horror, so it's only natural I would love feeling like I'm about to be murdered if I let my guard down. Nothing more immersive than being too scared to leave the undead burg because I know I can trade hands with these hollows, but I have no idea what awaits me atop the belfry. And the thrill of a black phantom when I least expect it, unparalleled terror.