I've hated the "playoffs" ever since they started. I'm not interested in "drama", I'm interested in year-long performance. Formula 1, and almost every other racing series, goes with "first past the post." You are the best driver, you have the most points, you win!
not true, they don't make anything close to what they did 8 years ago, they've gone woke and let nbc hide them/ destroy them. Nascar needs new ownership, an ownership that wants to make billions
All sports are WWE-like, only WWE doesn’t deny it!! All sports referee themselves, translation all sports have officials to direct outcomes. There is lots of money on the line with pro and college sports. Any sport being bet on out of Vegas is corrupt as Vegas and secretly scripted like WWE. That’s whey they will not survive what’s coming!
Bro, the fans complained enough that's why NASCAR implemented the playoffs and stages. The fans got tired and bored of long green flag runs where the competition was negligible because every car was separated by several seconds and they grew bored of F1 style championships where the Champ is crowned 3 or 4 races before the season ends
@@BGPOND30 Sorry bro but the chase for the cup, stages, fuel injection, one lugnut per wheel and a host of change ruined NASCAR. The last real 7 times cup winners were Petty and Earnhart. Johnson was gifted his. Period.
I don’t like format to determine a champion. I would like to see last 4 race maybe 3 or 4 races to determine season winner. One bad race in final or get crashed ends your season
To be fair, all sports are like that now in a way. How prestigious is it still to be the 100th winner of a championship? Even the Kentucky derby isnt as special as it was.
I disagree, not about entertainment, MONEY. If it was about entertainment, NASCAR would get rid of the bullshit playoff. This ain't a stick and ball sport. It is auto racing. Run all season for the championship, not the last race of the year between four drivers. Somethings are better off left alone. Race like back in the 80's - 90's.
Always have, at least since they signed on for the money. Money corrupts all. Nascar has their own officials just like all other sports leagues. Vegas controls all. They take our money to be there, take our money to watch and take our money if we bet. You wanna win in Vegas, put your money opposite of the most money. That’s where Vegas wins. When I watch UFC I watch betting lines. Anyone that has the money coming in on them loses. It’s too much money for Vegas to lose. The same people that run Vegas run sports, khazarians. It’s always all about taking our money….
@@AftertheCheckeredFlag Comparing Formula 1 with Nascar is like comparing Major League Baseball with Little League. The pathetic, cheap, regional racing series called TrashCar is a joke everywhere ese in the world. Sad you're such a fanboy for this incestuous, minor-league, corrupt race series.
I don't like the stage racing format and seriously disagree with this one last race for the Championship BS. Never have and never will. but I'll continue to be a Nascar fan until the day that drivers are told by officials, to stop racing for whatever reason. Ross deserved to race as hard as he wanted. And also, FJB
@andynix, to bad you had a great comment until you ruined it with your unneeded ‘fjb’. Glad I’m Independent but don’t feel the need to end my comment with some right-wing BS! Keep your politics to yourself- this is racing, sheesh…🙄
If you can't see reason to comment FJB on a regular basis, then you are of the Brainwashed followers that don't live in reality. With that said: FJB along with all of his Brainwashed followers that feel the need to protect. @@jayannakelley9051
It appears if anyone was getting aggressive it was BLANEY, iTS CALLED RACING AND I DONT BLAME ROSS for not just letting him go, He had the faster car all BLANEY had to do was finish in from of the 5 and 24 so why was he so upset? A championship is certainly more important than a win, Thank BLANEYS crew chief for using some common sense
@@Kado_Tornado Blaney couldn’t pass him and Ross made it hard Cleanly . Blaney wasn’t looking at the Big picture and just about ended his day by hitting Ross , he was told to back off cool down .
It's amazing to me how nascar can't get out of its own way sometimes. Brett Griffith is someone I trust more than nascar 100% and I do believe nascar told Ross Chastain spotter to tell ross not to be a headline after the race accept being the winner.
Any leader can block any 2nd place car all they want. If the 2nd place car is unable to complete a successful pass to stay in FRONT, despite winning the Championship by finishing in 2nd place at this RACE, too bad. Blaney was told to stay in front of the other championship 4 (now 3) drivers and you will be fine but NO, he wanted it all. I am happy for Blaney but trying to have your cake and eat it to, rarely happens. Done deal.@@NickyD
@@Moondog9322and your not that bright yourself by agreeing with one of the dumbest comments. I guess everyone should just roll over and not go for the win ..
Very well made video! NASCAR needs to look back at 79' and remember what put them on the map. This was the first Chastain citing in months and I'm glad he finally raced hard again. Thanks for the video 😎👍
The season finale is still a RACE, not just a "Parade of Champion Contenders". The Trucks Finale was a total Cluster Fi*k and the Xfinity Finale worked out quite well. Bring back Real Racing for all three series every race, every year.💯💥💣🏁
It's also kind of hilarious how in each series exactly 2 Chevy's, 1 Ford, and 1 Toyota were in the champ 4. A perfect representation of each manufacturer... almost too perfect. If something is too much of a coincidence and it happens right in your face, it's usually not purely a coincidence and there's some manipulation going on to produce these results. Look at Ryan Blaney. Absolutely nowhere to be found most of the year, Penske struggled heavily and then all of sudden in the last 5-6 races they have race winning speed in each race? It's just not believable. He was the last Ford in the playoffs and Nascar needed him to go all the way to appease Ford so that tapered spacer that Nascar issues themselves to the teams can easily be routed out an extra 1/16th of an inch or whatever to give you that extra little horsepower boost to give you an edge over the competition. Where did Blaney make up all his speed at Phoenix and Martinsville? When he got back on the gas off the corner. He was way faster off the corner than everybody else, evidence that he had more HP than everybody else. And Blaney makes a very popular champion, unlike last year when most people complained Logano won it all because he's not popular and wasn't a popular champion. Nascar isn't going to make that mistake again, Logano will never be a champion again unless he gets back on the fans' good side. Also why Hamlin will never win a championship, especially now. Too much of a villain. He sealed his fate of going championship-less because of this. This is one of the reasons why Nascar continues to run the plates/spacers, not because it produces better racing (because it clearly doesn't), but because this is how they can interfere and potentially manipulate outcomes. This is how Danica Patrick won the pole in the 500 in her first Cup series season and never came close to winning the pole again (or being that fast again in general), this is how Austin Dillon in the famous return of the #3 car back in the Cup series also won the pole in the 500 in its first return back, Jeff Gordon wins the 500 pole in his final year, Chase Elliott wins it in his rookie year after taking over for Gordon... the biggest story heading into the season wins the pole for the biggest race of the season and it happened 4 years in a row. There's no way that's a complete coincidence, that is Nascar writing their own headlines and giving themselves the best possible story to talk about leading into the biggest race of the year. The entire history of Nascar is riddled with examples of manipulation and favoritism. It's always been a part of this sport more so than others. I don't know how anybody can still believe that Nascar is still genuine and plays fair because they never have and they still don't.
I know for a fact it's true. Just look at the races, the championship over the years vs the other races. The top 3 or 4 in points are rarely all 1-4 in any race, except the championship race. I remember races at Miami where Jeff Gordon was killing the entire field. Then, he disappeared, no longer a factor at all. Larson the same thing when he was at Ganasi. Started the race looking like the best car. Then disappeared. Not like had a bad stop and got pushed back. But just for no apparent reason just went back mid pack and stayed there. And what made it even more obvious is the commentators never even mentioning it, no cameras even panning to them. It's like they weren't even there anymore.
Yeah, Gordon pitted from the lead late in 2014 with the dominant car, for no reason. I’m guessing what happened is NASCAR asked him to step aside wanting him to let a “playoff” driver win and he got a lead and pulled into pit road to make it look stupid because he was pissed. That was the first year of the playoffs and the #24 was the best team. It’s also the year that Gordon didn’t make it to the final because Keselowski got into him a Texas and Newman wrecked Larson at Phoenix to make it in. So if Gordon wins it makes the championship look illegitimate because nothing the #24 team did cost them the rightful championship. It’s been obvious since the first year that the playoffs are WWE on wheels.
I'm not necessarily a Ross Chastain fan, but what he did last Sunday was exactly what he should have done. Won the race. There should be competition, not pull over so the 4 championship contenders can race. If that is what is wanted by NASCRAP, then just have a special championship race for them alone.
I was glad to see Blaney take the title but since what has transpired since, Blaney has taken a lot of own luster away by bitching about Chastain. Chastain also has a job to do, WIN THE RACE. He had the car to beat so why should he just roll over and let Blaney go? Blaney just needed to finish in front of the other 3 and he did so stop whining, take your title and be happy with it.
The fix is in. Sounds just like wrestling. You would think NASCAR would lookback at what put them on the downside in their fanbase. where is the racing we loved in the 60's and 70's. Stage racing --- really. They have shot themselves in the foot more than once.
What I can't get used to is "the free pass!" PURE NONSENSE for the sanctioning body to "AWARD" a driver having a bad day their lap back when I just busted MY A*# anywhere from 100-150 laps to put you DOWN a lap!!!! That...and team/stable mates!!!!! PUHHHHH-LEASE!!!!!!!!
This probably won't come as a shock to race fans, but . . . NASCAR LIES!!! Whenever, and however often they feel they need to to preserve their self-image and power. Fairness isn't now, and hasn't ever been a priority for the France Family Monster; control of drivers/owners/tracks, so that they don't cooperate to cut out the middle man has always been their top priority.
Am I surprised NASCAR screwed up again? Hell no. A shitshow is a shitshow is a shitshow. They have taken a great race series and turned it into a mistake prone joke. As for NASCAR being accused of telling Ross to chill? Of course they did. That's why they kept any celebration (watermelon smash) off the TV. It's like watching a kindergarten run by third graders. Every year I lose more interest because of their antics. The sheer dumbness is the only thing consistent about NASCAR anymore.
Since so many YOUNGER fans (I'm in my 50's) do not remember Petty or Earnhardt Senior and had to watch JJ win all the time (boring, I stopped watching during his era). I'm sure they know their names but never saw how they raced live when they did the things they did. I think Ross is the next big star. I compare Ross to one of the drivers I just mentioned but will not name it as people get very offended when anyone is compared to him and I respect that. Ross, he will do whatever is in his power to win. If he can not do it on speed he will still find a way (Martinsville, Balls of steel!). He can turn on the aggressive driving on the track and still be likeable when he gets out of the car. He is great for his sponsors and brings just the right amount of drama. He was born a watermelon farmer, blue collar guy that dug and scratched his way to the top. Watching this guy race reminds me of someone else when he finally got his chance.
I was actually surprised he didn’t to be honest. He actually raced clean. I was thinking any minute Blaney was going to burn his car up. Being a fan of all the last 4 kinda sucked as I couldn’t ‘hate’ on anyone.. lol! I was really kinda hoping Harvick would clinch his last chance to win that day. What an awesome story line that would’ve been!
In Baseball you win by points ,Basketball, Drag Racing ,etc . NASCAR needs to go back to what worked . Stage racing has to go. The cars nowadays are just IROC cars ,no more making your car the way it use to be. Individual teams making their cars the best they can be .But that's my opinion . I've been a fan since the 60s, but now its a real crap show. I'll keep watching for a bit more but they do need to change . Its seems they have a carnival show ,making up rules as they go.!!!!!!!!😎
The official shouldn't have said anything, to anyone. I was baffled by Blaney racing Chastain so hard, but I get it, in the moment it's hard to say I don't have to win the race to win the championship.
before the race started the driver of the 12 was interviewed for 15 minutes and the other three were hardly mentioned did they know the 12 was already the winner
This playoff format needs to go away. What happened to running consistent for a season? You can have 5 good weeks out of 36? and win a championship? There’s something wrong with that. Being consistent for the year means nothing now.
This is still a Race... Ross Chastain Has the right to race for the win. If NASCAR doesn't like that then just put the 4 drivers racing in their own race see how even more boring it would be
Nascar has created a format that causes this nonsense. The bottom line is "game 7s" are not for racing on an every year basis. Protecting a points lead, will give you smarter drivers. I no longer blame any driver for stupid decisions. A points format built for desperate will lead to year long stupidity
@@AftertheCheckeredFlag at some point when the season always limps home due to controversy the sport has to think about the long term consequences. Not to mention in an effort to increase the importance on winning, Nascar lessened the importance of a championship. And it's starting to reflect on the drivers desire for one. Sure they go for it in the moment, but when it's all over, they look at the overall picture in hindsight and they aren't a fan.
Need to get rid of this Champ 4 race, Its easier to manipulate 1 race than 1 entire season. Flat tire out of contention "sorry youre not a champion"... someone doesnt like you and puts you in the wall... "sorry youre not a champion". But I dominated all year... "sorry youre not a champion"
The only reason Chastain should had moved over if he was a lap down and interfering just like any other race. I'm a Ford guy and don't agree with what is being presumed so someone can have a story. If Blaney had a good enough car to get around him, then he should of done it. But if Ross was backing him up, then he got what happens in racing....rubbin' baby, just some rubbin'. Lord knows we've seen Ross and Denny do it enough.
Brian France proved that NASCAR could be managed with gross incompetence and callous indifference without actually killing the thing completely. While things have improved since his disgraced removal, his legacy lives in the worst championship format in motorsports. It’s past time NASCAR pulls its collective head from deep within certain posterior regions, man up and admit that the format is largely a failure. The format has cheapened the first 26 races, cheapened their premier race, helped a decline in sportsmanship and most of all, hasn’t brought in those young new fans they keep trying so hard to attract. When will NASCAR finally admit that the sport is broken?
And the starts of the races.. Look at any Petty car over the years compared to cars that failed tech for not fitting the template and you'll see that NASCAR has been putting their foot on the scale for a long time.
Hey does anyone have the clip of the vice president announcing the final 4. I know he had the first 2 in order. He said Blaney, Larson, was the next Byron and bell. Or was it bell and Byron?
What you are failing to mention is Chastain is a sister/placebo Hendrick Race car driver/team. It was obvious what he was doing and why. I like Chastain but he was not racing but blocking and trying to force an accident. I like Ross but anyone that knows racing and Hendrick Motorsports knows the deal.
having been a nascar fan when they actually raced stock cars --i now detest this racing series that i used to look to for innovation and competition--these twits have totally got themselves lost in the wilderness --sad to see
hope it gives the twits in charge a pause to think about the direction they have taken nascrap--either go back to the showroom or take the stock out of nascar jmo@@AftertheCheckeredFlag
Ross is paid to win, he won. Get over it. And by their rule Blaney should have been penalized for aggressive driving. I'm glad they didn't. If they want only a final 4 driver to win that race,they should have been the only cars on track period.
Only TWO GUYS got screwed all weekend. #1- Corey Heim, and #2- Grant Enfinger. The Xfinity race was clean. The Cup race was also clean with a great hard fought win by Chastain. Heim got screwed because he got taken out by Hocevar (intentionally or unintentionally...doesn't matter...bad driving). Then Enfinger had a nearly certain championship robbed from him by Heim's retaliation bringing out the caution with a few laps to go. I don't feel bad for Hocevar at all, he deserved it. But I feel bad that Enfinger, who is 38 and running out of years to win a championship, had an almost-certain championship robbed from him.
Not one driver should race the 4 any different from any other time the drivers owe it to there team to there sponsorship to there fans and to themselves period
@@AftertheCheckeredFlag Actually, you never heard Bill France, Jr refer to "the race".....he always called it "the show". These people are basically carnival barkers.
NASCAR lost me years ago with the Chase farce, then throw in stage racing, GWC, ugly bad race cars, spoiled brat drivers and a slant toward road racing and I watched less than 10 minutes total of NASCAR this year. Meanwhile I watched hour after hour of good short track racing on Flo.
race manipulation by na$car... say it ain't so. Any more phantom yellow flags when a certain driver was about to go a lap down, running a longer caution period than normal so a car could get fixed. Been happening for decades. I get where Blaney might have been coming from if Ross was sandbagging a little to allow a chaser to close up. Once Ross was clear he drove away, might be a little in that Blaney comment.
i would've been sooo disappointed if nascar did expect the 1 car to move over for the 12 just because thats the way they wanted the race to play out. if i was chastain i'd told 'em where to stick it. thats MY win. if he's better than me he'll pass me if not shut up.
I've been watching nascar since the early 70's, when it was good, for years after nascar tried to build up the fan base, and they did it, most tracks were sold out, but over the past 10 or so years, nascar has lost the fan base and the fans are still leaving, the stage racing and the points should be done away with, in the 70's, 80's and 90's the one with the most points won, nascar sucks now.
So not a good look for NASCAR. That’s exactly why fans hate this playoff format. Myself I like the format but changing it to be points driven meaning: stage win 1 point, race win 5 points. That way numerous cars could be in line to win it all! Most points after the finale WINS!
I know few things for certain, but one thing I know is Nascar will find a way to make everything worse. There have been far too many final races in the "Chase" when all or 3 of the 4 contending team were in the top 5 for it not to have been manipulated. Also the Truck Series is basically Arca series, which is a complete joke of a racing series.
So make 2 races. 1 for the championship 4 and a race for the rest of the field. Everyone else should be racing these guys like they would every week. Not just move over and let them go by.
During the truck race was surprised that Nascar didn't do something about the retaliation Heim did on Hocevar....that was blatant.....he should have had a penalty right then and there....hold him for a lap in the pits and then let him go. That was not cool
I don't believe NASCAR told the Chastain team not to race hard because he still won the race... Everyone is taking Blaney`s accomplishment away... If Larson or Byron would have been up there fighting Chastain then you would have seen Chastain slow down and let one of them win!!!
No nothing NASCAR does is correct. Ross Chastain should have been interview first because he won the race instead of Ryan Blaney. The win in any race no matter which race it is should be interviewed first and then the other drivers. Just because Ryan Blaney won the Cup champion he should have been interviewed second. NASCAR treated Ross Chastain as if he was a nobody. Time to go back to old way of racing and stop playoff series. It playoff series is staying then the last race should be the winner of the best of three like in baseball.
The whole thing….Ross went out with only two fresh tires. Got ahead of Blaney who had four fresh tires. Stayed ahead of him, even though Blaney put the bumper to him and moved him up the track. And then easily won the race. And Ross raced the 12 clean. It’s pretty clear Ross had the better car AND he drove it damned well. ROSS DID NOTHING WRONG!!!! He won the race fairly. And Blaney still got the big prize. ASSCAR needs to stop manipulating things behind the scenes. It’s starting to look fake…like pro wrestling.
Now you know why I don't watch 'Neckcar' anymore. Like the world of Professional Wrestling and the 'management' knows it! BTW< the 'call' has been going on for quite a long time and yet people buy into this crap. Maybe IndyCar (or other series') may NOT be as entertaining as 'Neckcar' but at least, it's HONEST!
I'm a huge fan of BOTH Ryan and Chastain🥰, so... I definitely think what NASCAR tried to do regarding Chastain was messed up: he shouldn't let up for anyone just because they're still in the playoffs, and it would've been absolutely NOBODY'S fault but Ryan's if he had f_cked over his champ run by losing his brain against Chastain😑. And then I saw somewhere in these comments that Chastain said he was trying to back Ryan up to allow the HMS Champ 4 drivers to try to catch him, which is... whew😶! But, I'm ALSO an advocate for driver/manufacturer teamwork that isn't just on superspeedways: I don't see anything wrong with wanting your same manufacturer to win something as long as you don't flat out wreck the opponent. I guess to shorten this up, I both love the results that Chastain+Ryan got in winning the race🥳 and championship🥰 respectively... AND I love that neither of them got the results they tried for🙌🏾!!! 1. Chastain was faster, whether Ryan believed it or not🤷🏾♀️, and he was clean with everything he did. He did nothing wrong in doing what he's paid for🏁!! 2. With Chastain trying to help a Chevy win it all, I wouldn't have minded if it were William that was directly behind Ryan (I'm a fan of him too, but I love Ryan way more💛). But since it was Larson.. let's just say I'm D_MN happy nothing happened🥳, though Ryan was much faster+better anyway. NASCAR, don't f_ck up like this again (doubt they won't); Chastain, I'm SO happy you won the race; Ryan, thank GOD you didn't lose your head enough... AMAZING ending to the 2023 season!!! #My2ndFavoriteDriverIsACHAMPION🏆😆 #TeamPenskeBACK2BACK😈
You can tell a non championship driver was supposed to win because when Ross won Rick Allen didn't even mention him winning and the broadcast didn't know how to handle the post race
@@AftertheCheckeredFlag I was a crew member back in the 70s and at the last race of the season one year, they told the drivers (in the drivers' meeting) that there were two guys racing for a championship and if you spin one of them out, you better hunt the other one down and spin him out too.
Chastain never let Blaney pass him and won the race, so where is the manipulation? It looked to me like Heim was already getting loose in the corner before contact with Hocevar.
People aren't mad because of the outcome, they are mad because they believe Nascar took active steps to create a different outcome. You can manipulate something without being successful in it.
@@kharnthebetrayer1575 I feel that situation is extremely different because it could very easily be the team who told him to back off and not Nascar. Kind of similar to the way ford forced Ken Miles to lose at LeMans so they could get a more iconic finish with 3 cars in a row.
@@parker73724 And NASCAR rule about 100% ….. So if Blaney was ask to back off it’s in violation of that rule. So Manipulation of the race . Ross was giving 100% not rubbing, dooring, or using the chromehorn, just dirty air that’s been part of NASCAR since the 80’s and the “smaller” cars .
@@kharnthebetrayer1575 Well yeah but I don't think anyone is asking if teams manipulate races though. It's obvious they do and that's just something that can't be removed from the sport. We are more concerned about if Nascar is manipulating.
Were they mad at Chastain for racing again!? Come on Chastain you know better than to race in a race! Your suppose to ride around and wave to the other drivers especially the ones running for a championship!
Dudes ITS A RACE ! I Like Blaney but this whining about being raced hard wtf? Id be embarrassed to say that out loud . Chastain had the best car and if Im his owner you tell him to race his a** off to win it
@@AftertheCheckeredFlagOh d_mn😳😶. ...Well that's interesting! I'm a huge fan of both these guys, so I'm SOOOO happy they won the race and championship respectively🥰!! And I would've blamed NO ONE but Ryan if he had given away his chip from losing his brain against Chastain😑. But I'm also happy that HMS DIDN'T catch up like Chastain wanted🥳; if it had been William directly behind Ryan, I wouldn't have minded (though I love Ryan a lot more), but because it was Larson.. Well, thank GOD Ryan rules🙌🏾!!!
I lost passion or interest in NASCAR since the Rope hang from the garage door controversial because against the #23 driver! NASCAR has been destroyed our southern sport since money and TV and given to other people! 😢
nascar can only hate this system that they created that dictates wat cars shuld get it "easy" since theyre champ 4. honestly i was waiting for chastain to crash him. i was hoping. and still wulda been no manipulation. if they want the 4 champs to have it all to themselves. . . then park the cars not cobtending. and just do it every round.. . . . fact is blaney did not have a championship season. he jimmie johnsond his way thru. imo. the worthy champion was byron. . .
I quit watching NASCAR when they went political and have no intent to ever support their supposed race venue. I have been skeptical😂 for years of the money involved in their race oversight.
Only the officials & spotters there know the truth but in xfinity race Carson should have also been fined & points taken away for purposely running into Heim. What's good 4 one should b good 4 the other. Start zone could have been an oversight with everything going on. The truck fiasco was awful. Those drivers need 2 control their emotions & learn 2 race.
WHEN the "Grand Poobahs" say the playoff isn't a gimmick, one can rest assured that it is. Every driver should race hard every race. So what that the playoff champ didn't win the last race? It's supposed to be a race. Best driver through the year hasn't been the champ frequently under this bogus format. William Byron is just the latest victim and Harvick in 2020 may have been the worst. The Poobahs are getting closer to their goal to destroy Nascar totally. Elton Sawyer is such a pud!
Was done with Nascar when they went to the stupid playoff thing! Just watch things like this once in a while to see what the clowns messed up this time.
I've hated the "playoffs" ever since they started. I'm not interested in "drama", I'm interested in year-long performance. Formula 1, and almost every other racing series, goes with "first past the post." You are the best driver, you have the most points, you win!
Full Agreement here!!!
NASCAR doesn’t give a shit about the teams or the fans they just worry about the money that they make. It’s turning into pro wrestling
not true, they don't make anything close to what they did 8 years ago, they've gone woke and let nbc hide them/ destroy them. Nascar needs new ownership, an ownership that wants to make billions
All sports are WWE-like, only WWE doesn’t deny it!! All sports referee themselves, translation all sports have officials to direct outcomes. There is lots of money on the line with pro and college sports. Any sport being bet on out of Vegas is corrupt as Vegas and secretly scripted like WWE. That’s whey they will not survive what’s coming!
Bro, the fans complained enough that's why NASCAR implemented the playoffs and stages. The fans got tired and bored of long green flag runs where the competition was negligible because every car was separated by several seconds and they grew bored of F1 style championships where the Champ is crowned 3 or 4 races before the season ends
Lies again? Grab Car Ugly America
Thanks to NASCAR’s inconsistency and constant “tweaks” The championship trophy doesn’t feel nearly as iconic anymore.
Sorry bro but nascar was right..
@@BGPOND30 Sorry bro but the chase for the cup, stages, fuel injection, one lugnut per wheel and a host of change ruined NASCAR. The last real 7 times cup winners were Petty and Earnhart. Johnson was gifted his. Period.
I don’t like format to determine a champion. I would like to see last 4 race maybe 3 or 4 races to determine season winner. One bad race in final or get crashed ends your season
@@petekane2501 That would certainly be a decent & better playoff as I don't see that format leaving 🙁
To be fair, all sports are like that now in a way. How prestigious is it still to be the 100th winner of a championship? Even the Kentucky derby isnt as special as it was.
Nothing speaks louder than the empty seats at Nascar races. It's been said often enough - It's all about entertainment, not auto racing.
Name one sport that live attendance isn’t down??
@@scottgeorge1215NFL, Dirt Super Late Model racing
I disagree, not about entertainment, MONEY. If it was about entertainment, NASCAR would get rid of the bullshit playoff. This ain't a stick and ball sport. It is auto racing. Run all season for the championship, not the last race of the year between four drivers. Somethings are better off left alone. Race like back in the 80's - 90's.
@@garykendall1376gross mouth breather, the 80s and 90s were when it got bad
Is Nascar going to dictate who can win now. Sounds like wrestling.
I'm surprised the 23 didn't win the championship.
Wrestling, F1 or both?
He was solid. Just not good enough.
Always have, at least since they signed on for the money. Money corrupts all. Nascar has their own officials just like all other sports leagues. Vegas controls all. They take our money to be there, take our money to watch and take our money if we bet. You wanna win in Vegas, put your money opposite of the most money. That’s where Vegas wins. When I watch UFC I watch betting lines. Anyone that has the money coming in on them loses. It’s too much money for Vegas to lose. The same people that run Vegas run sports, khazarians. It’s always all about taking our money….
@@AftertheCheckeredFlag Comparing Formula 1 with Nascar is like comparing Major League Baseball with Little League. The pathetic, cheap, regional racing series called TrashCar is a joke everywhere ese in the world. Sad you're such a fanboy for this incestuous, minor-league, corrupt race series.
I don't like the stage racing format and seriously disagree with this one last race for the Championship BS. Never have and never will. but I'll continue to be a Nascar fan until the day that drivers are told by officials, to stop racing for whatever reason. Ross deserved to race as hard as he wanted. And also, FJB
Love your loyalty to the sport. Wish more people had your mindset.
@andynix, to bad you had a great comment until you ruined it with your unneeded ‘fjb’. Glad I’m Independent but don’t feel the need to end my comment with some right-wing BS! Keep your politics to yourself- this is racing, sheesh…🙄
If you can't see reason to comment FJB on a regular basis, then you are of the Brainwashed followers that don't live in reality. With that said: FJB along with all of his Brainwashed followers that feel the need to protect. @@jayannakelley9051
Agreed. It’s bad enuf just the playoff aspect, but the stage bullshit has ruined it
It appears if anyone was getting aggressive it was BLANEY, iTS CALLED RACING AND I DONT BLAME ROSS for not just letting him go, He had the faster car all BLANEY had to do was finish in from of the 5 and 24 so why was he so upset? A championship is certainly more important than a win, Thank BLANEYS crew chief for using some common sense
Exactly!!!
Penske also got on the radio and told Blaney to calm down and look at the bigger picture. Ross Chastain did nothing wrong.
Blaney’s car was faster. Chastain only won because Blaney backed off.
@@Kado_Tornado Blaney couldn’t pass him and Ross made it hard Cleanly . Blaney wasn’t looking at the Big picture and just about ended his day by hitting Ross , he was told to back off cool down .
It's amazing to me how nascar can't get out of its own way sometimes. Brett Griffith is someone I trust more than nascar 100% and I do believe nascar told Ross Chastain spotter to tell ross not to be a headline after the race accept being the winner.
well ross was blocking like a idiot and nascar didnt want bad PR after the truck disaster
@@NickyD Exactly right
Any leader can block any 2nd place car all they want. If the 2nd place car is unable to complete a successful pass to stay in FRONT, despite winning the Championship by finishing in 2nd place at this RACE, too bad. Blaney was told to stay in front of the other championship 4 (now 3) drivers and you will be fine but NO, he wanted it all. I am happy for Blaney but trying to have your cake and eat it to, rarely happens. Done deal.@@NickyD
@@NickyDaawww poor you . All upset because Ross is Paid to win races , and he block by using dirt air ….. Get a clue .
@@Moondog9322and your not that bright yourself by agreeing with one of the dumbest comments. I guess everyone should just roll over and not go for the win ..
Very well made video! NASCAR needs to look back at 79' and remember what put them on the map. This was the first Chastain citing in months and I'm glad he finally raced hard again. Thanks for the video 😎👍
Thank you for the nice words! Truly appreciate it.
The season finale is still a RACE, not just a "Parade of Champion Contenders". The Trucks Finale was a total Cluster Fi*k and the Xfinity Finale worked out quite well. Bring back Real Racing for all three series every race, every year.💯💥💣🏁
Exactly why they need to get rid of the playoffs
It's also kind of hilarious how in each series exactly 2 Chevy's, 1 Ford, and 1 Toyota were in the champ 4. A perfect representation of each manufacturer... almost too perfect. If something is too much of a coincidence and it happens right in your face, it's usually not purely a coincidence and there's some manipulation going on to produce these results.
Look at Ryan Blaney. Absolutely nowhere to be found most of the year, Penske struggled heavily and then all of sudden in the last 5-6 races they have race winning speed in each race? It's just not believable. He was the last Ford in the playoffs and Nascar needed him to go all the way to appease Ford so that tapered spacer that Nascar issues themselves to the teams can easily be routed out an extra 1/16th of an inch or whatever to give you that extra little horsepower boost to give you an edge over the competition. Where did Blaney make up all his speed at Phoenix and Martinsville? When he got back on the gas off the corner. He was way faster off the corner than everybody else, evidence that he had more HP than everybody else. And Blaney makes a very popular champion, unlike last year when most people complained Logano won it all because he's not popular and wasn't a popular champion. Nascar isn't going to make that mistake again, Logano will never be a champion again unless he gets back on the fans' good side. Also why Hamlin will never win a championship, especially now. Too much of a villain. He sealed his fate of going championship-less because of this.
This is one of the reasons why Nascar continues to run the plates/spacers, not because it produces better racing (because it clearly doesn't), but because this is how they can interfere and potentially manipulate outcomes. This is how Danica Patrick won the pole in the 500 in her first Cup series season and never came close to winning the pole again (or being that fast again in general), this is how Austin Dillon in the famous return of the #3 car back in the Cup series also won the pole in the 500 in its first return back, Jeff Gordon wins the 500 pole in his final year, Chase Elliott wins it in his rookie year after taking over for Gordon... the biggest story heading into the season wins the pole for the biggest race of the season and it happened 4 years in a row. There's no way that's a complete coincidence, that is Nascar writing their own headlines and giving themselves the best possible story to talk about leading into the biggest race of the year.
The entire history of Nascar is riddled with examples of manipulation and favoritism. It's always been a part of this sport more so than others. I don't know how anybody can still believe that Nascar is still genuine and plays fair because they never have and they still don't.
I know for a fact it's true. Just look at the races, the championship over the years vs the other races. The top 3 or 4 in points are rarely all 1-4 in any race, except the championship race. I remember races at Miami where Jeff Gordon was killing the entire field. Then, he disappeared, no longer a factor at all. Larson the same thing when he was at Ganasi. Started the race looking like the best car. Then disappeared. Not like had a bad stop and got pushed back. But just for no apparent reason just went back mid pack and stayed there. And what made it even more obvious is the commentators never even mentioning it, no cameras even panning to them. It's like they weren't even there anymore.
Yeah, Gordon pitted from the lead late in 2014 with the dominant car, for no reason. I’m guessing what happened is NASCAR asked him to step aside wanting him to let a “playoff” driver win and he got a lead and pulled into pit road to make it look stupid because he was pissed. That was the first year of the playoffs and the #24 was the best team. It’s also the year that Gordon didn’t make it to the final because Keselowski got into him a Texas and Newman wrecked Larson at Phoenix to make it in. So if Gordon wins it makes the championship look illegitimate because nothing the #24 team did cost them the rightful championship. It’s been obvious since the first year that the playoffs are WWE on wheels.
Blaney is the champ! Whooooo!!! Ross should have raced exactly like he did through. He isnt there to finish 2nd
NASCAR continues to have ulterior motives.
I'm not necessarily a Ross Chastain fan, but what he did last Sunday was exactly what he should have done. Won the race. There should be competition, not pull over so the 4 championship contenders can race. If that is what is wanted by NASCRAP, then just have a special championship race for them alone.
I was glad to see Blaney take the title but since what has transpired since, Blaney has taken a lot of own luster away by bitching about Chastain. Chastain also has a job to do, WIN THE RACE. He had the car to beat so why should he just roll over and let Blaney go? Blaney just needed to finish in front of the other 3 and he did so stop whining, take your title and be happy with it.
The fix is in. Sounds just like wrestling. You would think NASCAR would lookback at what put them on the downside in their fanbase. where is the racing we loved in the 60's and 70's. Stage racing --- really. They have shot themselves in the foot more than once.
What I can't get used to is "the free pass!"
PURE NONSENSE for the sanctioning body to "AWARD" a driver having a bad day their lap back when I just busted MY A*# anywhere from 100-150 laps to put you DOWN a lap!!!!
That...and team/stable mates!!!!!
PUHHHHH-LEASE!!!!!!!!
This probably won't come as a shock to race fans, but . . . NASCAR LIES!!! Whenever, and however often they feel they need to to preserve their self-image and power. Fairness isn't now, and hasn't ever been a priority for the France Family Monster; control of drivers/owners/tracks, so that they don't cooperate to cut out the middle man has always been their top priority.
........yep, goes all the way back to Big Bill.
Thats messed up what nascar told Chastain's spotter, Chastain had every right to go for the win!!
The voice of 'After the Checkered Flag' sounds so familiar to me. Guess I'll have to just let it
beat and bang in my head!
Clever. 👏
Al Capone running Nascar would be an improvement.
Am I surprised NASCAR screwed up again? Hell no. A shitshow is a shitshow is a shitshow. They have taken a great race series and turned it into a mistake prone joke. As for NASCAR being accused of telling Ross to chill? Of course they did. That's why they kept any celebration (watermelon smash) off the TV. It's like watching a kindergarten run by third graders. Every year I lose more interest because of their antics. The sheer dumbness is the only thing consistent about NASCAR anymore.
Chastain handily won anyways, so that doesn’t matter. And Blaney had a fast car as well, so no, NONE of it matters in the end.
Since so many YOUNGER fans (I'm in my 50's) do not remember Petty or Earnhardt Senior and had to watch JJ win all the time (boring, I stopped watching during his era). I'm sure they know their names but never saw how they raced live when they did the things they did. I think Ross is the next big star. I compare Ross to one of the drivers I just mentioned but will not name it as people get very offended when anyone is compared to him and I respect that. Ross, he will do whatever is in his power to win. If he can not do it on speed he will still find a way (Martinsville, Balls of steel!). He can turn on the aggressive driving on the track and still be likeable when he gets out of the car. He is great for his sponsors and brings just the right amount of drama. He was born a watermelon farmer, blue collar guy that dug and scratched his way to the top. Watching this guy race reminds me of someone else when he finally got his chance.
One thing I've always though was if "you know who" was doing the same things as Ross, everyone would love it.
@@samuelpaladino109E4 So true.
Fantastic comment!!! Thanks for taking the time to share it.
@@Ticona2 He did, especially early in his career.
“What are you doing?” Doesn’t sound made up. It sounds like something you say to get a point across on the low. I believe it.
I'm not a Ross fan but NOBODY races for 2nd........good for Ross!
Blakey is lucky that Chastain didn’t hook him in the right rear.
I was actually surprised he didn’t to be honest. He actually raced clean. I was thinking any minute Blaney was going to burn his car up.
Being a fan of all the last 4 kinda sucked as I couldn’t ‘hate’ on anyone.. lol!
I was really kinda hoping Harvick would clinch his last chance to win that day. What an awesome story line that would’ve been!
Shitstain is lucky Blaney didn't take his dumbass out.
In Baseball you win by points ,Basketball, Drag Racing ,etc . NASCAR needs to go back to what worked . Stage racing has to go. The cars nowadays are just IROC cars ,no more making your car the way it use to be. Individual teams making their cars the best they can be .But that's my opinion . I've been a fan since the 60s, but now its a real crap show. I'll keep watching for a bit more but they do need to change . Its seems they have a carnival show ,making up rules as they go.!!!!!!!!😎
A Toyota spun late in the xfinity race, by himself. So all three nights were reasons not to use this format.
The official shouldn't have said anything, to anyone. I was baffled by Blaney racing Chastain so hard, but I get it, in the moment it's hard to say I don't have to win the race to win the championship.
This. I think everyone was thinking why is he doing that but his instincts are to win. I think Roger Penske’s voice helped calm him.
@@AftertheCheckeredFlag I would love to say I wasn't screaming at my TV for Blaney to settle down like he could hear me. Can't say that though.
😂
before the race started the driver of the 12 was interviewed for 15 minutes and the other three were hardly mentioned did they know the 12 was already the winner
What were you watching? They interviewed each Champ 4 driver extensively.
This playoff format needs to go away. What happened to running consistent for a season? You can have 5 good weeks out of 36? and win a championship? There’s something wrong with that. Being consistent for the year means nothing now.
This is still a Race... Ross Chastain Has the right to race for the win. If NASCAR doesn't like that then just put the 4 drivers racing in their own race see how even more boring it would be
Nascar has created a format that causes this nonsense. The bottom line is "game 7s" are not for racing on an every year basis. Protecting a points lead, will give you smarter drivers. I no longer blame any driver for stupid decisions. A points format built for desperate will lead to year long stupidity
Hard to argue, although I’d be lying if I said I didn’t like the drama.
@@AftertheCheckeredFlag at some point when the season always limps home due to controversy the sport has to think about the long term consequences. Not to mention in an effort to increase the importance on winning, Nascar lessened the importance of a championship. And it's starting to reflect on the drivers desire for one. Sure they go for it in the moment, but when it's all over, they look at the overall picture in hindsight and they aren't a fan.
Need to get rid of this Champ 4 race, Its easier to manipulate 1 race than 1 entire season. Flat tire out of contention "sorry youre not a champion"... someone doesnt like you and puts you in the wall... "sorry youre not a champion". But I dominated all year... "sorry youre not a champion"
The only reason Chastain should had moved over if he was a lap down and interfering just like any other race. I'm a Ford guy and don't agree with what is being presumed so someone can have a story. If Blaney had a good enough car to get around him, then he should of done it. But if Ross was backing him up, then he got what happens in racing....rubbin' baby, just some rubbin'. Lord knows we've seen Ross and Denny do it enough.
Brian France proved that NASCAR could be managed with gross incompetence and callous indifference without actually killing the thing completely. While things have improved since his disgraced removal, his legacy lives in the worst championship format in motorsports. It’s past time NASCAR pulls its collective head from deep within certain posterior regions, man up and admit that the format is largely a failure. The format has cheapened the first 26 races, cheapened their premier race, helped a decline in sportsmanship and most of all, hasn’t brought in those young new fans they keep trying so hard to attract. When will NASCAR finally admit that the sport is broken?
So..What's new it's racing. Like everything now a days , Clown's running everything.
"That will teach him".....just like it taught HMS early in the season when a paid off review board took away the points penalty and just fined them.
Nascar always screws around with the finish of races! Playing favorites!
Yea but it wasn't a chevy or Toyota driver so your theory is wrong.
And the starts of the races.. Look at any Petty car over the years compared to cars that failed tech for not fitting the template and you'll see that NASCAR has been putting their foot on the scale for a long time.
Hey does anyone have the clip of the vice president announcing the final 4. I know he had the first 2 in order. He said Blaney, Larson, was the next Byron and bell. Or was it bell and Byron?
What you are failing to mention is Chastain is a sister/placebo Hendrick Race car driver/team. It was obvious what he was doing and why. I like Chastain but he was not racing but blocking and trying to force an accident. I like Ross but anyone that knows racing and Hendrick Motorsports knows the deal.
That’s BS. He was using air to win a race. Simple as that. Not even a fan of Chastain’s, just a race fan.
having been a nascar fan when they actually raced stock cars --i now detest this racing series that i used to look to for innovation and competition--these twits have totally got themselves lost in the wilderness --sad to see
Haven’t heard twits in forever. Made me smile.
hope it gives the twits in charge a pause to think about the direction they have taken nascrap--either go back to the showroom or take the stock out of nascar jmo@@AftertheCheckeredFlag
Another good take! Thank you
Thanks for nice comment!
It was fugly the moment they went with the crap playoff format.
Chastaln didn't just win, he dominated.
Fair.
My dream is that one year this Chase farce will have all 4 in the last race fall out of the race and the champion will be the one who falls out last.
Let's have the second Daytona race as the finale and wait for the big one to involve the 4 championship drivers.
Let's see how Nascrap treats Chastain next year. They will punish him one way or another. They have done this to drivers before.
Ross is paid to win, he won. Get over it.
And by their rule Blaney should have been penalized for aggressive driving.
I'm glad they didn't.
If they want only a final 4 driver to win that race,they should have been the only cars on track period.
Only TWO GUYS got screwed all weekend. #1- Corey Heim, and #2- Grant Enfinger. The Xfinity race was clean. The Cup race was also clean with a great hard fought win by Chastain. Heim got screwed because he got taken out by Hocevar (intentionally or unintentionally...doesn't matter...bad driving). Then Enfinger had a nearly certain championship robbed from him by Heim's retaliation bringing out the caution with a few laps to go. I don't feel bad for Hocevar at all, he deserved it. But I feel bad that Enfinger, who is 38 and running out of years to win a championship, had an almost-certain championship robbed from him.
Not one driver should race the 4 any different from any other time the drivers owe it to there team to there sponsorship to there fans and to themselves period
It's not racing.. it's a show..
As Denny Hamlin once said.
@@AftertheCheckeredFlag Actually, you never heard Bill France, Jr refer to "the race".....he always called it "the show". These people are basically carnival barkers.
They are.
I trust NASCAR officials as much as the US Gubmint.
they did the same thing to blaney because of logano last year
NASCAR lost me years ago with the Chase farce, then throw in stage racing, GWC, ugly bad race cars, spoiled brat drivers and a slant toward road racing and I watched less than 10 minutes total of NASCAR this year. Meanwhile I watched hour after hour of good short track racing on Flo.
Sounds like it's rigged
NASCAR needs to let them race the race for the lead was the only good racing we saw the entire race
Its a frickin joke.
Nothing surprises me with NASCAR they getting out of control
Man did I clicked it faster than my girlfriend
race manipulation by na$car... say it ain't so. Any more phantom yellow flags when a certain driver was about to go a lap down, running a longer caution period than normal so a car could get fixed. Been happening for decades.
I get where Blaney might have been coming from if Ross was sandbagging a little to allow a chaser to close up. Once Ross was clear he drove away, might be a little in that Blaney comment.
Truth.
i would've been sooo disappointed if nascar did expect the 1 car to move over for the 12 just because thats the way they wanted the race to play out. if i was chastain i'd told 'em where to stick it. thats MY win. if he's better than me he'll pass me if not shut up.
I've been watching nascar since the early 70's, when it was good, for years after nascar tried to build up the fan base, and they did it, most tracks were sold out, but over the past 10 or so years, nascar has lost the fan base and the fans are still leaving, the stage racing and the points should be done away with, in the 70's, 80's and 90's the one with the most points won, nascar sucks now.
So not a good look for NASCAR. That’s exactly why fans hate this playoff format. Myself I like the format but changing it to be points driven meaning: stage win 1 point, race win 5 points. That way numerous cars could be in line to win it all! Most points after the finale WINS!
I know few things for certain, but one thing I know is Nascar will find a way to make everything worse. There have been far too many final races in the "Chase" when all or 3 of the 4 contending team were in the top 5 for it not to have been manipulated. Also the Truck Series is basically Arca series, which is a complete joke of a racing series.
So make 2 races. 1 for the championship 4 and a race for the rest of the field. Everyone else should be racing these guys like they would every week. Not just move over and let them go by.
If nascar wants the race to be between four drivers, than there should only be four cars in the race.
Super Boring
During the truck race was surprised that Nascar didn't do something about the retaliation Heim did on Hocevar....that was blatant.....he should have had a penalty right then and there....hold him for a lap in the pits and then let him go. That was not cool
Agree.
I don't believe NASCAR told the Chastain team not to race hard because he still won the race... Everyone is taking Blaney`s accomplishment away... If Larson or Byron would have been up there fighting Chastain then you would have seen Chastain slow down and let one of them win!!!
No nothing NASCAR does is correct. Ross Chastain should have been interview first because he won the race instead of Ryan Blaney. The win in any race no matter which race it is should be interviewed first and then the other drivers. Just because Ryan Blaney won the Cup champion he should have been interviewed second. NASCAR treated Ross Chastain as if he was a nobody. Time to go back to old way of racing and stop playoff series. It playoff series is staying then the last race should be the winner of the best of three like in baseball.
the last restart the 1 raced the 5 hard and if the 5 gets the lead there he wins the cup.
You think? Blaney ran him down pretty convincingly.
@@AftertheCheckeredFlagI hoped that Chastain would have been able to hold Blaney off…. After all, both Chevrolets 😊I am a Larson fan though lol
The whole thing….Ross went out with only two fresh tires. Got ahead of Blaney who had four fresh tires. Stayed ahead of him, even though Blaney put the bumper to him and moved him up the track. And then easily won the race. And Ross raced the 12 clean. It’s pretty clear Ross had the better car AND he drove it damned well. ROSS DID NOTHING WRONG!!!! He won the race fairly. And Blaney still got the big prize. ASSCAR needs to stop manipulating things behind the scenes. It’s starting to look fake…like pro wrestling.
Now you know why I don't watch 'Neckcar' anymore. Like the world of Professional Wrestling and the 'management' knows it! BTW< the 'call' has been going on for quite a long time and yet people buy into this crap. Maybe IndyCar (or other series') may NOT be as entertaining as 'Neckcar' but at least, it's HONEST!
Ugly started with the CHASE format.
Doesn't Ross get his motors from Hendrick ?!?!?!?!?!?
No ECR. It's not hard to look it up.
@@matthewhoward5514which is why I didn’t like when poor Little HMS was upset and threatened a team that gets nothing from them !!!
@@kharnthebetrayer1575There's a heirarchy with GM team's... HMS is top dog then RCR... Same goes with Ford and TRD.
I'm a huge fan of BOTH Ryan and Chastain🥰, so... I definitely think what NASCAR tried to do regarding Chastain was messed up: he shouldn't let up for anyone just because they're still in the playoffs, and it would've been absolutely NOBODY'S fault but Ryan's if he had f_cked over his champ run by losing his brain against Chastain😑.
And then I saw somewhere in these comments that Chastain said he was trying to back Ryan up to allow the HMS Champ 4 drivers to try to catch him, which is... whew😶! But, I'm ALSO an advocate for driver/manufacturer teamwork that isn't just on superspeedways: I don't see anything wrong with wanting your same manufacturer to win something as long as you don't flat out wreck the opponent.
I guess to shorten this up, I both love the results that Chastain+Ryan got in winning the race🥳 and championship🥰 respectively... AND I love that neither of them got the results they tried for🙌🏾!!!
1. Chastain was faster, whether Ryan believed it or not🤷🏾♀️, and he was clean with everything he did. He did nothing wrong in doing what he's paid for🏁!!
2. With Chastain trying to help a Chevy win it all, I wouldn't have minded if it were William that was directly behind Ryan (I'm a fan of him too, but I love Ryan way more💛). But since it was Larson.. let's just say I'm D_MN happy nothing happened🥳, though Ryan was much faster+better anyway.
NASCAR, don't f_ck up like this again (doubt they won't); Chastain, I'm SO happy you won the race; Ryan, thank GOD you didn't lose your head enough... AMAZING ending to the 2023 season!!! #My2ndFavoriteDriverIsACHAMPION🏆😆 #TeamPenskeBACK2BACK😈
Great comment! Thanks!
You can tell a non championship driver was supposed to win because when Ross won Rick Allen didn't even mention him winning and the broadcast didn't know how to handle the post race
Nascar was 100% not prepared for the Campion not winning the race. Ross didn't even get shown on tv for half a hr after the race.
22 minutes to be exact.
Champion 4 should carry one point for every win they got during the season! not be even at the start of the race weekend!
Blaney seems like a diva
I disagree. One of the most down to earth guys in Cup garage.
Chase Elliott??
@@AftertheCheckeredFlag he legit threw a tantrum because of Ross
NOT AGAIN?
Of course it has to be about "race."
It's 2023 in Amerikka.
We're not happy with Blaney as champion.
Go Ross Go , it's a race , win it if you can , you owe it to your team and sponsors.
Nascar tells all the drivers at the meeting. "the race is about the championship4 not the rest of you guys."
Could see that.
@@AftertheCheckeredFlag I was a crew member back in the 70s and at the last race of the season one year, they told the drivers (in the drivers' meeting) that there were two guys racing for a championship and if you spin one of them out, you better hunt the other one down and spin him out too.
LOL! What a great story! Thanks for sharing.
Chastain never let Blaney pass him and won the race, so where is the manipulation?
It looked to me like Heim was already getting loose in the corner before contact with Hocevar.
People aren't mad because of the outcome, they are mad because they believe Nascar took active steps to create a different outcome. You can manipulate something without being successful in it.
@@parker73724mean like Blaney who had a faster car last yr but than backed off for his teammate…. Sounds like Manipulation to me .
@@kharnthebetrayer1575 I feel that situation is extremely different because it could very easily be the team who told him to back off and not Nascar. Kind of similar to the way ford forced Ken Miles to lose at LeMans so they could get a more iconic finish with 3 cars in a row.
@@parker73724 And NASCAR rule about 100% ….. So if Blaney was ask to back off it’s in violation of that rule. So Manipulation of the race . Ross was giving 100% not rubbing, dooring, or using the chromehorn, just dirty air that’s been part of NASCAR since the 80’s and the “smaller” cars .
@@kharnthebetrayer1575 Well yeah but I don't think anyone is asking if teams manipulate races though. It's obvious they do and that's just something that can't be removed from the sport. We are more concerned about if Nascar is manipulating.
i beg that we should go back to homestead for championship weekend PLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I feel like homestead is better racing for championships
I think a lot of fans agree with you.
Were they mad at Chastain for racing again!? Come on Chastain you know better than to race in a race! Your suppose to ride around and wave to the other drivers especially the ones running for a championship!
Dudes ITS A RACE ! I Like Blaney but this whining about being raced hard wtf? Id be embarrassed to say that out loud . Chastain had the best car and if Im his owner you tell him to race his a** off to win it
Didn't Chastain admit trying to slow Blaney down so the Hendrick cars could catch up?
He did in his post-race remarks on SiriusXM.
@@AftertheCheckeredFlagOh d_mn😳😶. ...Well that's interesting! I'm a huge fan of both these guys, so I'm SOOOO happy they won the race and championship respectively🥰!! And I would've blamed NO ONE but Ryan if he had given away his chip from losing his brain against Chastain😑.
But I'm also happy that HMS DIDN'T catch up like Chastain wanted🥳; if it had been William directly behind Ryan, I wouldn't have minded (though I love Ryan a lot more), but because it was Larson.. Well, thank GOD Ryan rules🙌🏾!!!
If it been one of the Hendricks cars up there been different they favor them all year
I lost passion or interest in NASCAR since the Rope hang from the garage door controversial because against the #23 driver! NASCAR has been destroyed our southern sport since money and TV and given to other people! 😢
nascar can only hate this system that they created that dictates wat cars shuld get it "easy" since theyre champ 4. honestly i was waiting for chastain to crash him. i was hoping. and still wulda been no manipulation. if they want the 4 champs to have it all to themselves. . . then park the cars not cobtending. and just do it every round.. . . . fact is blaney did not have a championship season. he jimmie johnsond his way thru. imo. the worthy champion was byron. . .
I quit watching NASCAR when they went political and have no intent to ever support their supposed race venue. I have been skeptical😂 for years of the money involved in their race oversight.
Only the officials & spotters there know the truth but in xfinity race Carson should have also been fined & points taken away for purposely running into Heim. What's good 4 one should b good 4 the other. Start zone could have been an oversight with everything going on. The truck fiasco was awful. Those drivers need 2 control their emotions & learn 2 race.
WWE on wheels
WHEN the "Grand Poobahs" say the playoff isn't a gimmick, one can rest assured that it is. Every driver should race hard every race. So what that the playoff champ didn't win the last race? It's supposed to be a race. Best driver through the year hasn't been the champ frequently under this bogus format. William Byron is just the latest victim and Harvick in 2020 may have been the worst. The Poobahs are getting closer to their goal to destroy Nascar totally. Elton Sawyer is such a pud!
Since the playoffs we all know NASCAR is scripted
Was done with Nascar when they went to the stupid playoff thing! Just watch things like this once in a while to see what the clowns messed up this time.
Ppl cry cry about it I’m happy Ryan Blaney won