the commentary and lines you bring to this format make it super easily to digest. love the videos. would love to see ub psychonaught again, but i understand needing to play the decks you enjoy more.
Thanks! To be fair, I really liked the UB deck, it's just that this format has the problem that I like too many decks, and I can only make so many videos and play so many matches.
So true, I start to like the RG list more and more, despite playing a rather old fashioned GW Terravore version myself. What I don't like about cataclysm is that the card is so situative. It can be a blast, but sometimes feels a little clunky. On the other hand, the land destruction in RG is plain and simple. Just blow up the lands, port them, waste them. Also the 4 factories are a huge advantage over most GW lists (which usually don't play them). They are great defenders and help you to attack more often, when the opponent is under a oath lock.
Certainly true! I do think there are other potential ways to build the W version which I want to try, cutting Clysm and changing things around to use the Mono G shell.@@BoeseTat
Sad that you didn't give your impression about the list at the end of the video... it's my favourite part each time. Keen to hear your POV about shivan, 4 Clark and furnaces
Glad to hear somebody appreciates the end! I already talked about the list on my previous video on it, so I was just going to be repeating myself, that's why I kept it short this time around.
Shivan Oasis taps for both my colors and doesn't deal me damage. This deck is aiming to spend all of its mana in every single turn, so a card like City of Brass will be doing you 3+ damage on the regular, which means 1 less card from Library.@@issmoul931
I'm building this. Need moxes obv and 2 library. Somehow found a set of PACK FRESH wastelands last weekend for 20 ea. Couldn't get my wallet out fast enough. Also built all versions of madness. I was on madness day 1 back in the day and it feels sooo good to be back.
Hell yeah! Madness is very underplayed, imo! I feel like there are a lot of innovations to be done with the archetype, and I think doing stuff like cutting Daze to reduce the constraints of the mana base are underexplored ideas.
I built a daze list and it makes me safe to have it and c-logic, gush, foil ...but the survival lists like cyberpunker feel more powerful. I see lists that lean into the survival package or even zombie infestation and krovikan horror that look great, but I'm not buying cradles right now.
Jajajaja, me parece que estamos tarde para eso. Para lo que no estás tarde es para conseguirte nuevos amigos y no invitar a Albert la próxima vez que se junten a jugar! 😂
I'm happy your having fun in premoderen. Hope you come back to prime time some time. It hasn't been the same since your break. I like the angles that you add which in my opinion is better than most otherss.
Naturalize. Post board you also have multiple ways to interact on the stack with Blasts, and even more Naturalizes/potentially Crumble. You can also play Oath, and Terravore can definitely get larger than a 12/12.
Thank you! I shared the Food Chain Elves deck in another comment, hopefully you enjoy it. I think it's interesting, but I doubt I'll ever play it cause I love Survival way too much
You can definitely play DB, it's always in the short list of cards that I want to include. But you actually have some non-trivial color requirements, especially since you want to be casting your red spells and your GG spells pretty early in the game. It could be a great mirror breaker tech, though, will tell you as much!
Interesting point which I hadn't considered! I think there is a ton of value in having a land that producesboth R and G, meaning that we can use it for R when we need to (which is not that often) and then continue using it for G afterwards.
@@fpawluszmtg toggling back n forth is good. Gotta weigh it vs the value of putting a land in the bin and re-setting your libraries. Which I feel is probably higher?
No idea, but you did give me something to think about. The only issue I see is that the deck does like to go long, so even as is I have multiple times ran out of fetchables already.@@seanswerdan7639
Look, I pay good money for my MTGO Premium account to only draw the cards I need when I need them, ok? In all seriousness, I think the Goblins matchup is quite good. I mean, that's literally the reason why I built the deck this way :P
Blood Moon is not very good in Premodern... Tsabo's Web, on the other hand, is very good against it, and since this deck has been rising in popularity that card has become much more widely played in sideboards (and sometimes even in main decks)
Fun! I built 8 premodern decks in paper, hopefully I’ll find players online who will play via cam 😎🙌🏻
Hell yeah! You should look up the different Facebook groups, people are always looking for webcam matches there and in the Discord.
the commentary and lines you bring to this format make it super easily to digest. love the videos.
would love to see ub psychonaught again, but i understand needing to play the decks you enjoy more.
Thanks! To be fair, I really liked the UB deck, it's just that this format has the problem that I like too many decks, and I can only make so many videos and play so many matches.
I like the fact you are switching colours . It shows that the core is super strong but the colour might depends of the meta
Very much so! Splashing each color has a different subset of upsides and downsides, it makes things more interesting!
The contamination list looked fun!
Really clean list Fran ! Really powerful vs the cataclysm list out there !
So true, I start to like the RG list more and more, despite playing a rather old fashioned GW Terravore version myself. What I don't like about cataclysm is that the card is so situative. It can be a blast, but sometimes feels a little clunky. On the other hand, the land destruction in RG is plain and simple. Just blow up the lands, port them, waste them. Also the 4 factories are a huge advantage over most GW lists (which usually don't play them). They are great defenders and help you to attack more often, when the opponent is under a oath lock.
Yes, I think the Gr list fixes a lot of the deck's issues. It has felt really strong and consistent
Certainly true! I do think there are other potential ways to build the W version which I want to try, cutting Clysm and changing things around to use the Mono G shell.@@BoeseTat
Contamination was a known deck back in extended. Suprised its not more common.
I miss the days of extended
It definitely hasn't been explored as far as it could be. Certainly an extremely strong card, as we saw in display in this very video!
@fpawluszmtg has played Contamination on the channel before thanks to a very handsome donor.
One of the coolest decks that were ever played in the channel, may I say@@85mcarnold
Call of the Herd is just pure power, such a fancy sideboard tech against quite a few decks
that mono b deck was dope!
It really looked impressive! Unmask in particular did A LOT of work!
Sad that you didn't give your impression about the list at the end of the video... it's my favourite part each time. Keen to hear your POV about shivan, 4 Clark and furnaces
Glad to hear somebody appreciates the end! I already talked about the list on my previous video on it, so I was just going to be repeating myself, that's why I kept it short this time around.
@@fpawluszmtg please tell us your opinion about shivan (why not city of brass?)
Shivan Oasis taps for both my colors and doesn't deal me damage. This deck is aiming to spend all of its mana in every single turn, so a card like City of Brass will be doing you 3+ damage on the regular, which means 1 less card from Library.@@issmoul931
what decks are good against it?
I'm building this. Need moxes obv and 2 library. Somehow found a set of PACK FRESH wastelands last weekend for 20 ea. Couldn't get my wallet out fast enough. Also built all versions of madness. I was on madness day 1 back in the day and it feels sooo good to be back.
Hell yeah! Madness is very underplayed, imo! I feel like there are a lot of innovations to be done with the archetype, and I think doing stuff like cutting Daze to reduce the constraints of the mana base are underexplored ideas.
I built a daze list and it makes me safe to have it and c-logic, gush, foil ...but the survival lists like cyberpunker feel more powerful. I see lists that lean into the survival package or even zombie infestation and krovikan horror that look great, but I'm not buying cradles right now.
Odio este deck hahahaha no lo pongas de moda paaaa 😂😂😂😂
Jajajaja, me parece que estamos tarde para eso. Para lo que no estás tarde es para conseguirte nuevos amigos y no invitar a Albert la próxima vez que se junten a jugar! 😂
I'll try Mossfire Valley istead of Shivan Oasis, It Will not change the deck but i think is better
As I said in the intro, it's possible that's the case. Unless you want to activate Port with it, in which case it's definitely NOT better :P
Hey, great content as ever. Any chance you will ever play pit-rack?
I'm happy your having fun in premoderen. Hope you come back to prime time some time. It hasn't been the same since your break. I like the angles that you add which in my opinion is better than most otherss.
Looks great! But how does this deck answer a turn 2 Dreadnought?
Naturalize. Post board you also have multiple ways to interact on the stack with Blasts, and even more Naturalizes/potentially Crumble. You can also play Oath, and Terravore can definitely get larger than a 12/12.
Is Tinder Wall legal in Premodern? I could see that being a good early blocker and way to accelerate for big turns.
Tinder Wall is legal, but playing non-Terravore creatures is way too big of a cost. Imagine oathing into a Wall 😅
@@fpawluszmtg oh right! Oath, of course. lost the plot for a second
It happens, hahaha@@Promatim
GGs bro, keep up the great content!
STRONG DECK BRO
I think it's quite good!
Thank you for the video you just helped me sell some oaths 😆
love your premodern videos!! #bestformat
Thanks! It really is the best format
LANMEE is so cool
bro, i love your videos, make a elves without gaea and survival s2s2
Thank you! I shared the Food Chain Elves deck in another comment, hopefully you enjoy it. I think it's interesting, but I doubt I'll ever play it cause I love Survival way too much
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Is there a really good reason to not try 1-2 Dust Bowls with 29 lands? Just curious. Thanks for the awesome content!!!
You can definitely play DB, it's always in the short list of cards that I want to include. But you actually have some non-trivial color requirements, especially since you want to be casting your red spells and your GG spells pretty early in the game. It could be a great mirror breaker tech, though, will tell you as much!
If you're playing a tapped dual land, why not play mountain valley as a 5th fetch?
Interesting point which I hadn't considered! I think there is a ton of value in having a land that producesboth R and G, meaning that we can use it for R when we need to (which is not that often) and then continue using it for G afterwards.
@@fpawluszmtg toggling back n forth is good. Gotta weigh it vs the value of putting a land in the bin and re-setting your libraries. Which I feel is probably higher?
No idea, but you did give me something to think about. The only issue I see is that the deck does like to go long, so even as is I have multiple times ran out of fetchables already.@@seanswerdan7639
I just bought it whole (2,000 euros).
Damn, that's commitment! Hope you enjoy the deck as much as I do!
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I'm really riding RG Oath and WG Cataclysm Oath. These 2 decks seem the best to me now. MrWolf2.
I hate when you beat Goblins. Specially when you do with the luck of the starring in a Hollywood poker movie 😡
Look, I pay good money for my MTGO Premium account to only draw the cards I need when I need them, ok?
In all seriousness, I think the Goblins matchup is quite good. I mean, that's literally the reason why I built the deck this way :P
A deck so strong it doesn't worry about blood moon. 😂😂
Blood Moon is not very good in Premodern... Tsabo's Web, on the other hand, is very good against it, and since this deck has been rising in popularity that card has become much more widely played in sideboards (and sometimes even in main decks)
would plow under be a playable card in this deck?
I don't think so. Even for this deck 5 mana is a lot, especially if there's a Sphere in play!