This movie Director is Squid game Director 😁 Man in White Armor is thug in squid game (snake face tatoo, Deok Soo) Little girl is Ga yeong (Gi hoon's daughter) Man sending letter is Front man
*This Korean movie is very different in a compared actual record about contents Qing invasion of Joseon(丙子胡亂).* The fact is both nations wanted a quick end to warfare after declaring war because of a lot of reasons. 1:27 *(1) Namhansanseong Fortress is located mountainside(497m ~ 514m) and designed to be difficult access for an enemy.* Western part topographically steep and fundamentally blocked an enemy attack. Other parts built walls that followed the Ridge of a mountain. Due to the steep slope, the Manchu tribes couldn't cross that walls, and have spent time as siege under them. Precisely, they fought against reinforcements(勤王軍) coming from the south, for saving who Joseon king, not siege battle. 0:36 *(2) That cannon shot couldn't approach to inside Fortress due to the Angle of the steep slope, and the range (Hongyipao)was limited.* This cannon came to be known to the Chinese after fighting the Netherlands in AD 1604. Chinese imported that cannon and installed their navy or capitals. But some ming navy surrendered to Qing and handed over technology from artillery. The effect of cannonball was deadly for Cavalry, but it's wasn't work for Fortress walls. Although balls broke walls, was the steep slope of the mountainside firmly remained and make it hard to enter inside. 2:50 *(3) King 'Injo' of Joseon didn't surrender as a reason for the fall crisis of Fortress.* He built a plan of escape into Ganghwa Island and tried to go there, but the Manchu vanguards arrived until where Hong Je-won(弘濟院) Seodaemun-gu, Seoul, in just 15 days and blocked his route thoroughly. Before declaring this war, Manchu tribes captured the Han-Chinese navy by accepting their surrender willingly and have processed in an amphibious operation where Ganghwa Island. When they landed on that Island, defend Generals'Kyung-Jing Kim(Son of 'Kim Ryu' and he was palace servants of 1st rank in a military coup of 1623) was run away without a fight shamefully. Manchu tribes occupied the last refuge, captives royal families. That became a trigger of surrender decisively. *(4) Manchu tribes faced a food crisis and epidemic during that time.* Early 17th century, climate change began with a decline in global average temperature, and a harsh winter has rushed. Manchuria lands changed as dry & cooling and pushed into starvation. Therefore, Manchu tribes wanted to get more food to supply their troops and invaded north Chinese land or Joseon. Also, the smallpox outbreak in their camp, completely destoryed their prolonged plan of conquest & rule and have induced rapid retreat.
I have seen some comments said that "Why Qing have cannons?" Just for clarification: Early Qing emperors are very enlightened and they knew and were willing to and they surely used gunpowder technology weapons, because they had seen the lethalities of gunpowder weapons during the long campaign with Ming empire to rule China, even Nurhaci emperor was killed by cannon of Ming's territory army... But after Qing take the regime of China, and after hundreds of relatively peaceful time of ruling of Qing empire, the Qing emperors were tend to become too cocky and satisfying to the present technology level of war and deny to advanced in this category , and they thought that "advancing is the betrayal of traditional curture"....So Pedantic.... Subsequently, everyone knows that after 1840, Qing crushed by the british empire and other western competitives, they finally knew they are fucked up badly....😅
@@thekhans2823 lol no. All the science and tech the quing got was from the mings leftover. Manchurians are backward steppe tribes that luckily defeated the ming during its decline and also bec of an internal rebellion. So no, quing tech is not better because quing is using mings tech and science
@@rokball4892 Can't really call them thugs though. Ming was corrupt and people were bound to rise up. It would've been a successful revolution if not for the Manchurians.
Bit sad how the Manchu just faded away after the Qing dynasty fell. Once they controlled the most powerful nation on Earth, now barely anyone knows they even exist.
@@schoolofgrowthhacking we haven’t faded away just yet. We’re still around. Just disgusting how the Chinese communists sweeps us underneath the carpet after all we’ve done for them in history
Manchuria were not ethnic groups of the Han. The Han was southern China while manchus were just Manchus from the north.They were their own people. Had their own language
@@jasperbudiono295 I'm afraid you've misunderstood the whole context. Han(漢) is not a combination of 56 different ethnic groups living in China. It's the "biggest" ethnic group; which takes 95% of whole population of China. That's the logic Chinese government is propagating to melt all the other ethnic groups' identity to that of Hans'. Yet it's not true. According to your logic, Korean people including me should all be Hans. That's a severe insult to all Koreans.
Korea got the ass end of history every time. Dealing with the most formidable powers like the nomad steppe empires, Chinese empires, soviets, and Japanese empires. Somehow despite the ridiculously bad military politicking somehow pull the most ludicrously outmatched wins under their belt like Salsu and Noryang.
Korea in the Joseon Dynasty was often defeated by foreign invasions, but Ancient and medieval Korean kingdoms successfully defended most of the invasions.
I agree though. They were one of the weaker Asian empires and on top of that, they are in a geographically terrible place between two super powers (3 if you count the Russians later on)
@@delmont2793 That's right. The Tang Dynasty guaranteed Silla land south of Pyongyang as a condition of cooperating with the destruction of Goguryeo and Baekje, but Tang broke its promise and tried to dominated the Korean Peninsula. However, Silla defeated the Tang Dynasty in 676 and defended the Korean Peninsula. Later, the period of Silla ended and during the period of Goryeo, the Korean Peninsula was protected by winning the war against the Khitan in 1019. During the Mongol invasion in the 13th century, Goryeo was defeated by Mongol and became a vassal state of Mongol, but unlike many Chinese countries, such as the Jin and Song Dynasty which were completely destroyed, Goryeo was maintained as a vassal state in 1270, and in 1356, the Mongolian interference organizations and pro-Mongolian factions within the Korean Peninsula were purged and removed from their status as a vassal state of Mongol. Koreans fought during the invasion of the Red Turban in the 1360s, and Korean eventually killed all the Red Turban who invade Goryeo. and in the 1380s, they won the war against the Japanese pirates who made the Korean Peninsula hell. In my opinion, the military weakened because the peace was too long in the period of Joseon, and as a result, unlike the Silla and Goryeo periods, it failed to adequately respond to foreign invasions.
It wont be heartbreaking if Joseon accepted help from the Japanese. When Manchu start their conquest of Korea, Japan had heard of it and Japanese are even more despise nomad tribes compared to conquering Korea. They have bad experience 600 years prior and 400 years prior during Jurchen attack on 1006 and Mongol attack. But Korean refused due to japanese invasion were only less that 50 years ago and many still hold grudge against japanese and they were hoping for China, but Chinese during this time is a big fucked up.. If Tokugawa Samurai were to repel the Manchu, it would be a fun think to watch.
@@johnthiam2446 Unfortunately, that's your mistake. Even if Japan helped, the result would be the same. Japan will also be conquered by the Manchus. Japanese samurai are not as strong as Mongolians and Manchus. Compared to Mongolia, the Manchus were not only strong on land, but also very strong in naval battles. It looks like what you wrote. Trapped in a corner of the room, Wapanizu falls in love with a bizarre fantasy about a samurai while watching Japanese animation. Or are you a Japanese with a psychotic interest in Korea? Why are there people who spit short texts in the corner of the room in this video?
@@유-j2j Im not an anime fans and Im not a fan of samurai as samurais lost to Ming China duriing the war. My ancestor esp from the south travelled north to help out the korean as Southern Chinese esp coastal area has experience in fighting Japanese for almost 100 years before the war broke out.
The Manchurians were a conglomeration of 8 tribes of Jurchen Tungusic speaking peoples from what is now Northeastern China they invaded Korea and China and established the Qing Dynasty forcing Han Chinese to wear Manchu dress and hairstyles. Their ancestors established the Jin Dynasty in Mediaeval times. They were once a strong people who ruled over all of China and Mongolia but are now mostly assimilated into Han culture.
It’s sad history in Korea. It was happened in Joseon dynasty. Because of incompetent King and servants who captured with stereotypes. We should learn from this history.
"The king of Joseon has already decided to become Khan's servant. This massacre may not be Khan's intention. The people of Joseon did nothing wrong. Please stop the attack."
The 2nd time when Japan invaded Korea they really went all out in an attempt to reach China and essentially take over Asia. I believe the Japanese sent over a 100000 Samurai to the base of the Korean peninsula. It's considered to be the largest sea invasion 2nd only to D-day.
Yeah reminds me how the "war seasoned samurai veterans" of unified Japan tucked tail and turned into a hermit kingdom after losing to 12 ships. A supposed country with "history of warriors" Pathetic.
@@devinsen363 the Battle of Myeongnyeong was a naval battle. Whole different ball game there. The Strait was a tumultuous place that caused multiple Japanese ships (none of which had cannons btw, only guns) to collide into each other. Furthermore the Japanese invasion of Korea wasn’t fought by just samurai, this took place after the Sengoku Jidai where using the peasantry as Ashigaru warriors to tip the scales of large scale warfare was now common practice.
@@devinsen363 the Japanese weren't a naval power after the Warring States period. They didn't use cannons, only Teppou. The Koreans on the ptherhand neglected its land based army but had a powerful navy with cannons. When the two met the Koreans on the mainland got pushed back to the border with China but the Navy kept hammering the Japanese supply ships to the point where China (who was the Overlord of Korea) was able to mobilize and start pushing g the Japanese south. The final battle was when a Korean Admiral by the Name of Yi used his turtle ship(an armored warship) to keep the Japanese pinned. The straights had a weird tide that could turn into a whirlpool and once that happened the combined Navy stuck themselves into an anchor line and started blasting. So no, it wasn't untrained peasants against warriors. It was trained and drilled sailors against trained and drilled land infantry. They don't mix well
If Joseon did not accept their demands, Joseon would eventually perish and disappear. At this time, the Mongolian and Chinese Ming Dynasties perished and were absorbed into the Manchu Qing Dynasty. Mongols were forced to marry Manchu royalty. The Chinese should have forced the Babarian hairstyle of the Manchus. for 400 years On the other hand, Joseon was able to defend its country, but there was a lot of interference from the Manchus.
I think the reason why Qing let Korea maintained independence is because Manchus had some kind of respect toward Korea. And at the time, Qing did not invade China yet. The Qing was not Chinese.
Korean Manchu Japanese is the same word order SOV. Chinese and Manchu are completely different languages. Han chinese and Manchu are completely different peoples. The peoples of Japan, Korea, and Manchuria are the same.
@@dingloong2470 he said that their language has the same sentence structure, meaning that their languages were related. He wasnt saying that they were the same people.
@@williamwan3712 …in the beginning he was diligent but after he found out his top minister was a hypocrite and a succession dispute, he lost faith in his own court. But for some reason when it comes to war, Wanli was very attentive and hands-on
Wanli was very generous to Joseon during Imjin War, and Joseon respected and honored the emperor and fought for Ming against Manchus despite the country was being devastated even prior to Manchu invasion.
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@@RolitabunTV Only Korean netflix is available to watch this movie also even the american movie like 'American sniper' and etc which are not in american netflix Korean netflix has much more movies
Would be hilarious if he Would’ve joined up with Koxinga (Chenggong, pirate ming loyalist who took over Taiwan) or son to take back China from Qing. He would’ve gotten dozens of Dutch inspired war ships to work with then lol.
Yi sunshin was only a Navy Admiral, and the Manchus were coming on land. And his actual role in the Imjin War was not as big as we thought. The main land battles were fought by Ming troops and Joseon partisans. He is a great strategist, but please don't deify him.
@@williamwan3712 Yi Sun-shin was a Navy officer, but during the Japanese Invasion of Korea in 1592, he cut off all supplies to the Japanese troops on land. As a result, the morale of the Japanese troops on land continued to decline, which allowed the Joseon guerrilla forces and the Ming army to defeat the Japanese troops. In view of this, the actual role of Yi Sun-shin is as great as we think. It is true that supply and supplies are important in war, which also applies to modern times. Japanese army was excellent warriors because of Sengoku Jidai in the 16th century, but such excellent warriors would wither without food and support.
This film shows that there is not only a glorious history, but that such a disgraceful history is also a part of history. And this film shows that We have to remember this history and it should not be repeated.
Korea fought against Qing even after Ming was defeated because it was truly a loyal subject of Ming. It must have been such a disgrace that the Korean king was forced into kowtow by a Qing envoy after finally being conquered.
It seems that Koreans tend to like Han Chinese. Is it because the Han Chinese were considered to be culturally superior to the foreigners from the north who had enslaved the Han Chinese for thousands of years? However, looking at the Han Chinese these days, it seems that they are not very different from the savages of the north in the past. The cultural level of the Han Chinese is too low.
@@prime4851 That's the Chinese illusion. Actually the last dynasty in China was Qing, a Manchu rulers who conquered Han Chinese, Han Chinese were forced to accept various Manchu customs. Throughout the Chinese history, Han Chinese were constantly conquered and forced to adopt the rulers' customs. I bet there's nothing like Chinese customs as Han Chinese were slaves all the time in their own land.
So bizarre that the people of Manchu were so powerful, organized, efficient, intelligent, and created the mighty Qing Empire that lasted until the 20th century. And now they’re considered a minority and live away from the center of current China, ruled by Han Chinese ethnic group that the Manchus once reigned on top of them
same with the mongols who conquered all of China. Manchus and Mongols were just outbred, but pound for pound, the Manchus and Mongols are stronger, tougher and smarter than the Hans
ggyy311 cannons are never effective in such close combat and you can’t aim 17 century cannons downward. Enemies can each you when you only have enough time to land one cannonball, which is a waste of manpower
@@NUSORCA I know what you mean, but cannon is the game changer of "castle battle" not little gun! It's enough to blow a big fucking hole and then sending troops rushing in like the swarm, muskets can't do that but cannons can do it! The traditional stronghold strategy is useless for now on because of the cannons, and that's the point...
@@ggyy311 Cannons were an absolute game changer, but there was still a way for fortifications in this era to resist an attacking force with cannons. This answer was the European Star forts. In the late Ming, certain military officials actually petitioned for the Ming military to adopt the construction of star forts across china, but the deteriorating situation of the government meant that only a few small ones were built. The height of traditional strongholds basically became a liability at this point, as they became increasingly susceptible to cannon fire. The tall heights and square design of the walls also meant that there were way too many dead zones for the defenders to effectively return fire with their own cannons. While star forts did provide certain advantages with their sloped walls, their main advantage came in the form of its design. The angular designs meant that the defender's cannons could basically cover most if not all angles of attack. We typically remember Koxinga today for driving out the Dutch from Taiwan, but it is often forgotten that Fort Zeelandia actually fought quite well against pretty overwhelming odds. Koxinga tried to take the fort through a direct assault, but was immediately met with a large number of casualties. This forced him to settle for a traditional waiting siege that lasted for almost a year (some say the long waiting game is what probably led to Koxinga's early death).
@@Cobraman8447 lmao, when Manchus cause 25 milllion deaths it isn’t bad, but when they forget their own language due to SELF ASSIMILATION then it’s bad. How about people like you shut up and stop trying to disturb Chinese ethnic harmony? Manchus in China are Chinese, deal with it
@@yuliusjrt9917 😂 you are totally an apologist for the CCP fact of the matter is China is oppressive and committing genocide to so many people And btw the Manchus aren’t allowed to practice their language so uh yah not exactly theirs fault my guy Manchus in China are not Chinese they are Manchu A people with they’re own beliefs and way of life separate to the Han While the Qing might have absorbed themselves into Han culture there are still Manchus who never gave up their original ways.
Certainly, the power of cannons is exaggerated. This cannon has cannon power since 1870. However, in the history book, there is a record that "the palace was destroyed by cannons." It seems true that shooting downward from the high altitude is quite powerful.
Im from korean Th pe former jose9n dynasry was avessal state of mongol empire, a tribuoe state of the ming dynasty, and a vassal state of the qing dynasty. We lost dongha and 0rimosky kail, and we have advanced to foreign powers by "china" and "mongolia"
Ming already use cannon quite in big scale and in 1618 adapt Culverin cannon from Nederland(as far as I know they take it from Nederland in 1604 Ned vs Ming war) They call replicated version of Culverin cannon 紅夷砲 Anyway, Qing organized surrendered Ming soilder who has skill in gun or cannon as auxiliary unit they use replicate Culverin cannon on Joseon vs Qing war and got reputation for far better range and accuracy
Guilherme Matos Passarini Not sure about dispise on firearm but they understand its power Later they promote auxilary soilders as regular army, Han division(corp? Army? Idk its military group that has political and social power) Maybe like hundred years later yes? I dont think first emperor of Qing, Nurhachi, military jenius, really dispise firearm
This is before the Qing conquered the Ming. It is even mentioned in the movie that the manchus can not prolong their invasion of Joseon because they would rather spend their time conquering China. Which is why they accept the surrender. The battles raging in Shenyang between the invading Qing and the Ming is also mentioned in the movie.
@@briannorman399 "their King is servant to the Emperor of China" That's......not true at all. In that case, Denno of Japan/Emperor of Viet Nam/Khan and Khaghans of Mongolian/Turkish empires throughout the history would be the servant of the Emperor of China. As a European(or an American, I bet?) it would be hard for you to understand the relationship of China and other countries around, but such words would be a severe insult towards us.
@@커싄 Ming dynasty of China shared a close trade and diplomatic relationship with the Joseon dynasty of Korea. Both dynasties shared Confucian ideals in society. Ming China assisted Joseon Korea during Toyotomi Hideyoshi's invasion of Korea, in which the Wanli Emperor sent a total of 221,500 troops
Lots of cannonballs in that era were either simple iron balls, or even just dense stone. The object was to pound the fortress wall until the wall failed and a breach formed allowing attacking troops to flood in, as depicted in the movie. There were mortars that could lob exploding balls over the walls to kill people and destroy buildings, but I can't say whether they were used in this era. Certainly the movie does not depict the use of mortars, which are quite different from cannon and need to be located much closer to the target due to their trajectory.
Aparently you guys don't get sarcasm.. Calling someone an idiot whilst not even getting it pretty much makes you the idiot but hey have a great day, glad I gave you the opportunity to feel smart for once.
There was an explosive timebomb cannonball (비격진천뢰, 飛擊震天雷) in Joseon since 1592 imjin war. invented by Lee Jangson, national amoury(군기시, 軍器寺) technician.
The Qing Dynasty of Manchus who made the Han Chinese into slavery. the Qianlong Emperor ordered to publish a history book that summarizes the history of the Manchu people. It's called Researches on Manchu Origins (欽定滿洲源流考). In describing the history of the Qing Dynasty, all the Han Chinese dynasties that existed in China were excluded, while several dynasties in the Korean Peninsula were recorded as their own histories. At that time, the Manchus regarded Koreans as brothers or cousins of the same lineage. Although it is the most important historical book of the Qing Dynasty, the book has been neglected by the Han Chinese. According to their logic, the Manchus were not Chinese, but were of the same ancestry as Koreans. In other word, Han Chinese were enslaved by a kind of Koreans. Because of such a history, the Han Chinese are naming all kinds of foreign peoples, including the master people who made them slaves, as Chinese. Native Americans, British, Germans, Italians, and countless other ethnic groups live in the United States, Americans, however, do not call British, Germans, and Italians American people, nor do they call their indigenous culture American culture. However, the Han Chinese have a complex in which all ethnic groups, including their master people, living in China must be named '56 Chinese' to be freed from the complex of eternal enslavement. According to that logic, the indigenous culture of the Korean ethnic, called Chaoxianzu, one of the 56 Chinese, is also Chinese culture. Therefore, things like kimchi and hanbok are Chinese culture. As they try to save the face of the Han Chinese, a nation of eternal slaves, such an irrationality follows.
@@Naruto-ej4ki Just see the historical facts not just following CCP. You are just an example of the reason why all the people should live in democracy and rationality. Many conflicts exist because of the people just like you who brainwashed by its authoritarian governments. The fact is ‘China’ is assimilating Manchus, Mongilans, Tibetan, Uyghur, Vietnames, Korean culture into China(Han) now.
The Han people have never denied the fact that they were once defeated and enslaved by the Manchus. It was the Chinese Communist Party who denied this fact, and the Chinese Communist Party who advocated the 56 ethnic groups. The Chinese Communist Party is not a Han ethnic party at all. I also never thought I was a so-called Chinese, I always thought I was Han, and my country (Hanland) is now being occupied by the CCP. The poor Koreans on the peninsula can only find pride through the nihilistic history, because the history of the Koreans is the history of being pet dogs to the great powers. If the Ming Dynasty of the Han people did not assist Korea in resisting Japan, it would not have consumed so much power and would not have been defeated by the Manchus. However, the Koreans surrendered to the Manchus early after receiving the help of the Ming Dynasty. The Koreans are garbage without shame.
who knew that after a long time with high-tech technology will show that Koreans and Siberians aka the Altay people.. have the same ancestry as the Koreans by DNA.
Compared to places like India (Golconda, Jodhpur, Chittorgarh, Jaisalmer etc) Korea's fortifications were so small and underwhelming. Here the Qing soldiers are climbing them without ladders while holding swords 😆😆
@@jy4542 yes I know they are different, it's a typo. Hmm I've been to all the fortifications listed above, they are all on mountains too and still have high walls, try googling any of them. Jodhpur is a famous example.
I am from India and I believe our forts were majestic because of the constant seiges and battles they were in, it was made to depict power and welfare to other kingdoms/foriegn ones. Every kingdom differed in this pattern though like the marathas, rajputs(the above forts you mentioned are mostly from rajputana), carnatic and sikh kingdoms. Over time the royals built their capital there, lived there especially in case of many rajput kingdoms such as chittorgarh and it became the grounds for political and economic development apart from military purposes, unlike many east asian countries who made it to protect the capital city. I believe Korean forts were made in chinese/japanese style architecture (as most of them were built during the three kingdoms period) which was mainly used for defences purposes only until I think hwaseong. Another reason I can think of is the topography. This are just my thoughts on it which I made through the limited knowledge I have so I maybe wrong.
@@sakshiiii1270 also because Korea at this point hasn’t seen any major invasion for centuries beyond occasional nomad raiders and became a extraordinarily corrupt beaurocracy, at least until Japan invaded 40ish years before this movie’s setting.
@@schoolofgrowthhacking In fact, until the Goryeo Dynasty, walls were built more than 10 meters high, just like in China. However, after the Joseon Dynasty, there was no reason to fight China and their tactics were changed. so there was no need for high walls.
@@koryoball No one cares because no one like Vietnam. Firstly it's all come to being the favorite or not. 90% of the world hate Vietnam for being a independence nation. Meanwhile South Korea is the most favorite country in Asia aside from Japan. Secondly it's all come from culture influence. Japan has anime, sushi, car brands and girl in kimono. South Korea has Kpop, kimchi and car brands. Vietnam doesn't influence the world. Instead, we get hated so much just because we fought against invaders. It's all come down to being the favorite or being the influencer. The world is like the parents, the countries is the child, the weakened and poor countries are the miserable one who get bullied and insulted, the developed and influenced are the favorite or the hardworking ones. The hardworking ones are often seeing as the superpower like US, Russia and China. Whereas the favorites like Japan, South Korea are the famous ones because they has anime and Kpop.
@@trietlyhoahong926 we are Vietnam spirit of longing for the because of freedom and independence . We fought and sacrificed our blood and blood for our ancestors worked hard to keep them alive and free the mortherland Vietnam , although our country . I am not like the rich countries in the world . Is in danger we are ready not to any force want to invade✊✊✊✊✊🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳
This movie did everything wrong. For example: -*Canons shoot at wall once, it's enough to crumble it. WRONG! It takes many days of bombarding a single section of wall to collapse it.* The movie had such an opportunity to portray what it is like to be under constant bombardment, and didn't take it. -*A single breach is portrayed as a big deal. WRONG!* A single breach is a bottleneck that's disastrous for the attacker more than the defender. -*No one is fighting or marching in any sort of formation, ever.* Soldiers march in a loose group of rifles, crossbowmen, spearmen and swordsmen. -*Even when cavalry charges at them, the rifles stay at front, and at no point are replaced by pikemen/spearmen.* Could it be that koreans were so stupid that they didn't know pike and shoot formations in 1630's? Is this what this movie is saying? -Somehow, everyone hears the officer shouting orders in the middle of the battle. -Armor is like paper. -Most footsoldiers are armed with swords, not polearms. -They send the blacksmith on a suicidal mission. Why the blacksmith? The movie also implies he was the only blacksmith the fortress had. -Little is shown from the perspective of common soldiers. It's just constant back and forth between the king and his one-dimensional advisors. Also, very funny how the advisors can echo the words their representative said in unison. Did they practice for it? -The movie shows from the very beginning that the plan to defend that fortress was always a VERY BAD IDEA. It's underlined at every possible moment, to the point it's silly. It makes everyone who decided to defend despite such overwhelming odds look like a suicidal imbecile. -Thus, when they finally surrender, the scene of king sloooowly prostrating himself before the Khan is not sad nor tragic nor melodramatic. It's just silly. It was the obvious outcome. And if it wasn't supposed to be obvious, the movie made no effort in portraying that, we weren't given any clue, any number, any ray of hope that maybe the idea to defend wasn't so bad after all. -At the end of the movie, the conservative proponent of defence says "things will change for the better only when we all pass, and king passes, and kingdom passes, and all old things pass away....". Yeee, just drop feudalism and install democracy already. That's totally what a noble in 17th-century korea would have said. And probably more, but whatever. It's a bad movie, it lacks historical authenticity, and fails to makes us care about the conflict portrayed. You cheer for the antagonists, but probably because you don't see them enough to witness them doing dumb and illogical things like the main characters do.
Sad day for the Koreans, Koreans would have fend off the Manchus maybe for another 100 years should they accepted help from Japan. But too bad their grudge against Japanese were greater than the threats from Manchu..
in 1789, the Qing attacked Vietnam with over 290 thousand of troops, at that time, the Qing very strong, their invasion to Tibet, Urumqi has succeed, but they cannot defeat VietNam
Vietnam had a big advantage in repelling cavalry-based armies. We can not say that it was the vietnamese themselves who won, so much as their geography defeating outsiders.
@@jovegajo Lê Jiang Zhong and Le royalists wanted to restore his dynasty so he begged Qing to invaded north Vietnam. Leader of Tây Sơn rebellion Nguyễn Quang Bình proclaimed emperor Quang Trung, stormed and crushed the Qing army
If Joseon did not accept their demands, Joseon would eventually perish and disappear. At this time, the Mongolian and Chinese Ming Dynasties perished and were absorbed into the Manchu Qing Dynasty. Mongols were forced to marry Manchu royalty. The Chinese should have forced the Babarian hairstyle of the Manchus. for 400 years On the other hand, Joseon was able to defend its country, but there was a lot of interference from the Manchus.
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This movie Director is Squid game Director 😁
Man in White Armor is thug in squid game (snake face tatoo, Deok Soo)
Little girl is Ga yeong (Gi hoon's daughter)
Man sending letter is Front man
*This Korean movie is very different in a compared actual record about contents Qing invasion of Joseon(丙子胡亂).* The fact is both nations wanted a quick end to warfare after declaring war because of a lot of reasons.
1:27 *(1) Namhansanseong Fortress is located mountainside(497m ~ 514m) and designed to be difficult access for an enemy.* Western part topographically steep and fundamentally blocked an enemy attack. Other parts built walls that followed the Ridge of a mountain. Due to the steep slope, the Manchu tribes couldn't cross that walls, and have spent time as siege under them. Precisely, they fought against reinforcements(勤王軍) coming from the south, for saving who Joseon king, not siege battle.
0:36 *(2) That cannon shot couldn't approach to inside Fortress due to the Angle of the steep slope, and the range (Hongyipao)was limited.* This cannon came to be known to the Chinese after fighting the Netherlands in AD 1604. Chinese imported that cannon and installed their navy or capitals. But some ming navy surrendered to Qing and handed over technology from artillery. The effect of cannonball was deadly for Cavalry, but it's wasn't work for Fortress walls. Although balls broke walls, was the steep slope of the mountainside firmly remained and make it hard to enter inside.
2:50 *(3) King 'Injo' of Joseon didn't surrender as a reason for the fall crisis of Fortress.* He built a plan of escape into Ganghwa Island and tried to go there, but the Manchu vanguards arrived until where Hong Je-won(弘濟院) Seodaemun-gu, Seoul, in just 15 days and blocked his route thoroughly. Before declaring this war, Manchu tribes captured the Han-Chinese navy by accepting their surrender willingly and have processed in an amphibious operation where Ganghwa Island. When they landed on that Island, defend Generals'Kyung-Jing Kim(Son of 'Kim Ryu' and he was palace servants of 1st rank in a military coup of 1623) was run away without a fight shamefully. Manchu tribes occupied the last refuge, captives royal families. That became a trigger of surrender decisively.
*(4) Manchu tribes faced a food crisis and epidemic during that time.* Early 17th century, climate change began with a decline in global average temperature, and a harsh winter has rushed. Manchuria lands changed as dry & cooling and pushed into starvation. Therefore, Manchu tribes wanted to get more food to supply their troops and invaded north Chinese land or Joseon. Also, the smallpox outbreak in their camp, completely destoryed their prolonged plan of conquest & rule and have induced rapid retreat.
Are you talking about the Sino-Dutch conflicts?
@@Hootix Yes
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미쳤네ㅋㅋㅋ 한국인도 이정도 조사는 안하겠다
@@Morgenmann ㄹㅇ 처음본 내용인데 팩트맞나 싶음
Thank God you upload these movies cause I would never have found it on Netflix.
you could find it on kissasian
@@Ali-fx6jd lol
@@thekhans2823 what's so funny about it
@@Ali-fx6jd , "kissasian "
I have seen some comments said that "Why Qing have cannons?"
Just for clarification:
Early Qing emperors are very enlightened and they knew and were willing to and they surely used gunpowder technology weapons, because they had seen the lethalities of gunpowder weapons during the long campaign with Ming empire to rule China, even Nurhaci emperor was killed by cannon of Ming's territory army...
But after Qing take the regime of China, and after hundreds of relatively peaceful time of ruling of Qing empire, the Qing emperors were tend to become too cocky and satisfying to the present technology level of war and deny to advanced in this category , and they thought that "advancing is the betrayal of traditional curture"....So Pedantic....
Subsequently, everyone knows that after 1840, Qing crushed by the british empire and other western competitives, they finally knew they are fucked up badly....😅
true. qing's technology and science were bad; ming's weren't that bad.
But the thing is that Koreans also had them to I am pretty sure they had it
@@sinoroman ming had the most advanced navy with Zheng he....then they changed......which caused ming to fall.
@@sinoroman , qing's technology and science was a lot better than ming's, it was also good
@@thekhans2823 lol no. All the science and tech the quing got was from the mings leftover. Manchurians are backward steppe tribes that luckily defeated the ming during its decline and also bec of an internal rebellion. So no, quing tech is not better because quing is using mings tech and science
Next target: the Ming
Ming was destroyed by Thugs led by Li Zicheng.
@@rokball4892 , lol no
@@thekhans2823 Aren't they already gone by then?
@Jinping Xi and Mao Zedong yes
@@rokball4892 Can't really call them thugs though. Ming was corrupt and people were bound to rise up. It would've been a successful revolution if not for the Manchurians.
Love how Korean movies are now incorporating the Manchu language!!!! I’m part Manchu and korean. ❤️
ᠰᡳ ᠰᠠᡳ᠌ᠨ
Can you understand Manchu language?
@@hamburger2141 a little. Still learning
Bit sad how the Manchu just faded away after the Qing dynasty fell. Once they controlled the most powerful nation on Earth, now barely anyone knows they even exist.
@@schoolofgrowthhacking we haven’t faded away just yet. We’re still around. Just disgusting how the Chinese communists sweeps us underneath the carpet after all we’ve done for them in history
Manchuria were not ethnic groups of the Han. The Han was southern China while manchus were just Manchus from the north.They were their own people. Had their own language
@@jasperbudiono295 , Han Chinese are of south china, itself there wasn't hundereds of ethnicitys
@@jasperbudiono295 I'm afraid you've misunderstood the whole context. Han(漢) is not a combination of 56 different ethnic groups living in China. It's the "biggest" ethnic group; which takes 95% of whole population of China. That's the logic Chinese government is propagating to melt all the other ethnic groups' identity to that of Hans'. Yet it's not true.
According to your logic, Korean people including me should all be Hans. That's a severe insult to all Koreans.
Finally, somebody agrees!
@@thekhans2823 Wrong. Han originated from Central Plains. The Southern part of China was inhabited mainly by the Baiyue (Southeast Asian ethnicities).
@@커싄 Chinese are trying to propagate themselves as diverse people hence their domination over others is justifiable.
Korea got the ass end of history every time. Dealing with the most formidable powers like the nomad steppe empires, Chinese empires, soviets, and Japanese empires.
Somehow despite the ridiculously bad military politicking somehow pull the most ludicrously outmatched wins under their belt like Salsu and Noryang.
HAha you don’t rly know the Korean history then.
Korea in the Joseon Dynasty was often defeated by foreign invasions, but
Ancient and medieval Korean kingdoms successfully defended most of the invasions.
@@delmont2793 still a miracle how this small nation survived between world's strongest countries
I agree though. They were one of the weaker Asian empires and on top of that, they are in a geographically terrible place between two super powers (3 if you count the Russians later on)
@@delmont2793 That's right. The Tang Dynasty guaranteed Silla land south of Pyongyang as a condition of cooperating with the destruction of Goguryeo and Baekje, but Tang broke its promise and tried to dominated the Korean Peninsula. However, Silla defeated the Tang Dynasty in 676 and defended the Korean Peninsula. Later, the period of Silla ended and during the period of Goryeo, the Korean Peninsula was protected by winning the war against the Khitan in 1019. During the Mongol invasion in the 13th century, Goryeo was defeated by Mongol and became a vassal state of Mongol, but unlike many Chinese countries, such as the Jin and Song Dynasty which were completely destroyed, Goryeo was maintained as a vassal state in 1270, and in 1356, the Mongolian interference organizations and pro-Mongolian factions within the Korean Peninsula were purged and removed from their status as a vassal state of Mongol. Koreans fought during the invasion of the Red Turban in the 1360s, and Korean eventually killed all the Red Turban who invade Goryeo. and in the 1380s, they won the war against the Japanese pirates who made the Korean Peninsula hell. In my opinion, the military weakened because the peace was too long in the period of Joseon, and as a result, unlike the Silla and Goryeo periods, it failed to adequately respond to foreign invasions.
This movie was heartbreaking
It's glorious. How they perished under the might of Daicing Gurun is truly a song for the ages to come!
The opening scene with the Korean official killing the ferryman was beautiful and dark at the same time.
It wont be heartbreaking if Joseon accepted help from the Japanese. When Manchu start their conquest of Korea, Japan had heard of it and Japanese are even more despise nomad tribes compared to conquering Korea. They have bad experience 600 years prior and 400 years prior during Jurchen attack on 1006 and Mongol attack.
But Korean refused due to japanese invasion were only less that 50 years ago and many still hold grudge against japanese and they were hoping for China, but Chinese during this time is a big fucked up.. If Tokugawa Samurai were to repel the Manchu, it would be a fun think to watch.
@@johnthiam2446 Unfortunately, that's your mistake. Even if Japan helped, the result would be the same. Japan will also be conquered by the Manchus. Japanese samurai are not as strong as Mongolians and Manchus. Compared to Mongolia, the Manchus were not only strong on land, but also very strong in naval battles. It looks like what you wrote. Trapped in a corner of the room, Wapanizu falls in love with a bizarre fantasy about a samurai while watching Japanese animation.
Or are you a Japanese with a psychotic interest in Korea? Why are there people who spit short texts in the corner of the room in this video?
@@유-j2j Im not an anime fans and Im not a fan of samurai as samurais lost to Ming China duriing the war. My ancestor esp from the south travelled north to help out the korean as Southern Chinese esp coastal area has experience in fighting Japanese for almost 100 years before the war broke out.
I like it because it's not just a show-binism movie, but a live-action-based movie.
The Manchurians were a conglomeration of 8 tribes of Jurchen Tungusic speaking peoples from what is now Northeastern China they invaded Korea and China and established the Qing Dynasty forcing Han Chinese to wear Manchu dress and hairstyles. Their ancestors established the Jin Dynasty in Mediaeval times. They were once a strong people who ruled over all of China and Mongolia but are now mostly assimilated into Han culture.
Manchuria is Prussia in Asia
It’s sad history in Korea.
It was happened in Joseon dynasty.
Because of incompetent King and servants who captured with stereotypes.
We should learn from this history.
I hope Korea can united soon, and get back Goguryeo's territory we lost. I hope I can be part of the great history destined to happen at some point.
그래도 완전히 멸망한 명나라보다 낫다... 어쨌거나 이 전쟁 이후로도 거의 280년동안 조선왕조는 지속되니까
He kept his royalty for China Ming dynasty because helped Japanese invasion in 1592
What did the Korean envoy say?
"The king of Joseon has already decided to become Khan's servant. This massacre may not be Khan's intention. The people of Joseon did nothing wrong. Please stop the attack."
@@awesomeautumn9593 thanks
The 2nd time when Japan invaded Korea they really went all out in an attempt to reach China and essentially take over Asia. I believe the Japanese sent over a 100000 Samurai to the base of the Korean peninsula. It's considered to be the largest sea invasion 2nd only to D-day.
日本の主敵は中国で小朝鮮など気にしていなかった
小朝鮮軍は弱く李舜臣は何度も日本水軍に負けて最後は戦死した
属国小朝鮮に中国軍が25万人を投入することは予想外だった
@@giboo7250 あなたが言うことによって無実の日本人は被害を受ける（参考に李舜臣は敗北したことがない WWWW）
@@pristine31k :0)
I remember that the record says about
First invasion 200000
Second invasion 180000
@@pristine31k 3度大敗北して宗主国の明帝国水軍に戦わせ、惨めに敗北して逃げる途中に死んだ属国小朝鮮水軍の李舜臣 笑笑笑笑笑
Yeah that’s how I’d expect peasants to fare against men who literally are raised to be warriors.
Yeah reminds me how the "war seasoned samurai veterans" of unified Japan tucked tail and turned into a hermit kingdom after losing to 12 ships. A supposed country with "history of warriors"
Pathetic.
@@devinsen363 the Battle of Myeongnyeong was a naval battle. Whole different ball game there. The Strait was a tumultuous place that caused multiple Japanese ships (none of which had cannons btw, only guns) to collide into each other. Furthermore the Japanese invasion of Korea wasn’t fought by just samurai, this took place after the Sengoku Jidai where using the peasantry as Ashigaru warriors to tip the scales of large scale warfare was now common practice.
@@mr.chibiterasu2956 thank you for furthering my point.
Absolutely pathetic.
The Swiss would say otherwise.
@@devinsen363 the Japanese weren't a naval power after the Warring States period. They didn't use cannons, only Teppou.
The Koreans on the ptherhand neglected its land based army but had a powerful navy with cannons. When the two met the Koreans on the mainland got pushed back to the border with China but the Navy kept hammering the Japanese supply ships to the point where China (who was the Overlord of Korea) was able to mobilize and start pushing g the Japanese south.
The final battle was when a Korean Admiral by the Name of Yi used his turtle ship(an armored warship) to keep the Japanese pinned. The straights had a weird tide that could turn into a whirlpool and once that happened the combined Navy stuck themselves into an anchor line and started blasting. So no, it wasn't untrained peasants against warriors. It was trained and drilled sailors against trained and drilled land infantry. They don't mix well
If Joseon did not accept their demands, Joseon would eventually perish and disappear. At this time, the Mongolian and Chinese Ming Dynasties perished and were absorbed into the Manchu Qing Dynasty.
Mongols were forced to marry Manchu royalty. The Chinese should have forced the Babarian hairstyle of the Manchus. for 400 years
On the other hand, Joseon was able to defend its country, but there was a lot of interference from the Manchus.
I think the reason why Qing let Korea maintained independence is because Manchus had some kind of respect toward Korea. And at the time, Qing did not invade China yet. The Qing was not Chinese.
@@seoul_9584The Qing was not Ming, but it was a Chinese nation that aspired to rule the entire China under the Mandate of Heaven.
@@jimmyyu5115 delusional. Blud thinks genghis khan was Chinese lol no doubt it
In this film qing peoples speak manchu right ?
yes
Korean Manchu Japanese is the same word order SOV. Chinese and Manchu are completely different languages. Han chinese and Manchu are completely different peoples. The peoples of Japan, Korea, and Manchuria are the same.
@@hoshika427 그건 좀 아님 한국이랑 일본은 비슷하긴 한데 여진은 잘 모르겠음
Yes the manchus in this film speak in manchu
@@dingloong2470 he said that their language has the same sentence structure, meaning that their languages were related. He wasnt saying that they were the same people.
I was touched by how loyal the Korean king was to the Ming emperor.
Historically yea
Because Ming helped Korea a lot during Imjin war(Japanese invasion of Korea).
@@1원-j5p He was called the worst emperor because he didn't go to court for 30 years and spent his days in the harem
@@williamwan3712 …in the beginning he was diligent but after he found out his top minister was a hypocrite and a succession dispute, he lost faith in his own court. But for some reason when it comes to war, Wanli was very attentive and hands-on
Wanli was very generous to Joseon during Imjin War, and Joseon respected and honored the emperor and fought for Ming against Manchus despite the country was being devastated even prior to Manchu invasion.
Nice video my friend!👌🙂
Korea has some good cowboy hats
well, 'US has korean hats' is correct 😂
Cowboy hats XD didn't expect at all LOL
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"Gat" is for Elite, or whos seek for knowledge. not that macho image.
Why this movie is so difficult to get
Kissasian is always there
netflix
@@RolitabunTV Only Korean netflix is available to watch this movie
also even the american movie like 'American sniper' and etc which are not in american netflix
Korean netflix has much more movies
It's on Netflix now
I'm sure if That time Admiral Yi sun shin is alive Manchu will be defeated and Joseon will not become a tributary state of Manchu
Would be hilarious if he Would’ve joined up with Koxinga (Chenggong, pirate ming loyalist who took over Taiwan) or son to take back China from Qing. He would’ve gotten dozens of Dutch inspired war ships to work with then lol.
Yi sunshin was only a Navy Admiral, and the Manchus were coming on land.
And his actual role in the Imjin War was not as big as we thought. The main land battles were fought by Ming troops and Joseon partisans.
He is a great strategist, but please don't deify him.
Admiral Yi Sun shin is also good in land battle so thats why he promoted,he is firts asingn in North land of Joseon
@@williamwan3712 agree
@@williamwan3712 Yi Sun-shin was a Navy officer, but during the Japanese Invasion of Korea in 1592, he cut off all supplies to the Japanese troops on land. As a result, the morale of the Japanese troops on land continued to decline, which allowed the Joseon guerrilla forces and the Ming army to defeat the Japanese troops. In view of this, the actual role of Yi Sun-shin is as great as we think.
It is true that supply and supplies are important in war, which also applies to modern times. Japanese army was excellent warriors because of Sengoku Jidai in the 16th century, but such excellent warriors would wither without food and support.
Really loved that transparent hat
I just watched this movie. Great story, well told! I'm not sure whether it's great history... but it's a great movie!
This film shows that there is not only a glorious history, but that such a disgraceful history is also a part of history. And this film shows that We have to remember this history and it should not be repeated.
Movie name
Korean should have had M109 Paladin.
We should've had nukes lmao
Korea fought against Qing even after Ming was defeated because it was truly a loyal subject of Ming. It must have been such a disgrace that the Korean king was forced into kowtow by a Qing envoy after finally being conquered.
It seems that Koreans tend to like Han Chinese. Is it because the Han Chinese were considered to be culturally superior to the foreigners from the north who had enslaved the Han Chinese for thousands of years? However, looking at the Han Chinese these days, it seems that they are not very different from the savages of the north in the past. The cultural level of the Han Chinese is too low.
@@Dustin-ps6ol lol
@@Dustin-ps6ol Cultural Revolution
@@Dustin-ps6ol Us Koreans adopted Chinese customs
@@prime4851 That's the Chinese illusion. Actually the last dynasty in China was Qing, a Manchu rulers who conquered Han Chinese, Han Chinese were forced to accept various Manchu customs. Throughout the Chinese history, Han Chinese were constantly conquered and forced to adopt the rulers' customs. I bet there's nothing like Chinese customs as Han Chinese were slaves all the time in their own land.
So bizarre that the people of Manchu were so powerful, organized, efficient, intelligent, and created the mighty Qing Empire that lasted until the 20th century. And now they’re considered a minority and live away from the center of current China, ruled by Han Chinese ethnic group that the Manchus once reigned on top of them
谁统治不一样啊，现在满族也承认自己是中国人
By mixing with mongols and han Chinese.
Manchus still have a large population tho
same with the mongols who conquered all of China. Manchus and Mongols were just outbred, but pound for pound, the Manchus and Mongols are stronger, tougher and smarter than the Hans
I like how they call qing emperor great khan
Spaniards didn't Invade Joseon
Battle of Caopai-Tung (19 October 1637) Cao-Mi vs. Zonga
I love the manchu uniform so cool
yes
Their uniforms were affected by the Koreans.
@@jtsy7499 As a Korean, I disagree with you.
Han supremacists would've killed you for that
@@cerealkellah3947 Manchu armor was based on Ming armor.
Did korea get attacked or did china get attacked?
China attack
Specifically the Manchurian attack. Qing later known as China wasn't established back then
After Japan Korea war.ming fall to manchu
Nay, Ming collapsed because of itself like almost every Chinese Dynasty. Beijing was lost to Lee's peasant army 90 days before Qing's invasion.
Korean War Movies has come a long way
南汉山城，是相当忠实于真实历史的电影
张小白 有muskets都打不赢 pourquoi? 😕
@@NUSORCA 那時候的火槍有什麼鳥用?還是大砲比較厲害!
因為基本上東方的部隊沒有西方的那種先進的射擊技術， 加上火槍還沒有1、200年後工業革命時期的這麼好用， 所以相較之下火砲威攝力比較大使用起來簡單粗暴， 兵團作戰冷兵器還是最終掃蕩的關鍵!
ggyy311 cannons are never effective in such close combat and you can’t aim 17 century cannons downward. Enemies can each you when you only have enough time to land one cannonball, which is a waste of manpower
@@NUSORCA
I know what you mean, but cannon is the game changer of "castle battle" not little gun!
It's enough to blow a big fucking hole and then sending troops rushing in like the swarm, muskets can't do that but cannons can do it!
The traditional stronghold strategy is useless for now on because of the cannons, and that's the point...
@@ggyy311 Cannons were an absolute game changer, but there was still a way for fortifications in this era to resist an attacking force with cannons. This answer was the European Star forts. In the late Ming, certain military officials actually petitioned for the Ming military to adopt the construction of star forts across china, but the deteriorating situation of the government meant that only a few small ones were built.
The height of traditional strongholds basically became a liability at this point, as they became increasingly susceptible to cannon fire. The tall heights and square design of the walls also meant that there were way too many dead zones for the defenders to effectively return fire with their own cannons.
While star forts did provide certain advantages with their sloped walls, their main advantage came in the form of its design. The angular designs meant that the defender's cannons could basically cover most if not all angles of attack. We typically remember Koxinga today for driving out the Dutch from Taiwan, but it is often forgotten that Fort Zeelandia actually fought quite well against pretty overwhelming odds. Koxinga tried to take the fort through a direct assault, but was immediately met with a large number of casualties. This forced him to settle for a traditional waiting siege that lasted for almost a year (some say the long waiting game is what probably led to Koxinga's early death).
What the tittle ?
Look in description.
The Fortress
brest fortress
Korea and china(ming) became weak because of japan
No, Ming fucked themselves up by Wanli. Japan was just a part of reason.
Not really. China was humiliated by the mongols before the toyotomi united Japan. China was already weakened.
@@mitonaarea5856 Ming had plenty of power. It was weakened and had several armed peasant rebellion going on during reign of Wanli who didn't give a F.
joseon => korea //// manchu -> not china
China = multi etnic country.... literally = Middle kingdom
korea = one ethnic country. Choson ethnic
Chauvinism, ultranasionalis, Fasis, hitlernism
@@Naruto-ej4ki yeah, those Korean does not really understand.
Movie name plz
Namhansanseong
Một dân tộc mạnh mẽ cuối cùng đã hoà tan vào biển người Hán.
More like China committing ethnic cleansing and exterminating them
Well if they got fucking dissolved, then they weren’t so strong after all huh? I’m sure you Vietnamese know a lot about that
@@Cobraman8447 lmao, when Manchus cause 25 milllion deaths it isn’t bad, but when they forget their own language due to SELF ASSIMILATION then it’s bad. How about people like you shut up and stop trying to disturb Chinese ethnic harmony? Manchus in China are Chinese, deal with it
@@yuliusjrt9917 😂 you are totally an apologist for the CCP fact of the matter is China is oppressive and committing genocide to so many people And btw the Manchus aren’t allowed to practice their language so uh yah not exactly theirs fault my guy
Manchus in China are not Chinese they are Manchu
A people with they’re own beliefs and way of life separate to the Han
While the Qing might have absorbed themselves into Han culture there are still Manchus who never gave up their original ways.
Their canon’s rate of fire are faster than WWll artillery 🤣🤣
do you know that cannon and musket can firing by rank, right ?
@@duypham-nt1mp do you know fire like that needs how many canon?
Certainly, the power of cannons is exaggerated.
This cannon has cannon power since 1870.
However, in the history book, there is a record that "the palace was destroyed by cannons."
It seems true that shooting downward from the high altitude is quite powerful.
Why didn't China come and help Korea when Khan invaded
because of the revolt
At that time korea and china(ming) became weak because of japan
@@xzxzxzxz9892 명나라가 겨우 임진왜란 도와준다고 휘청거리진 않았음. 만력연간 명말 삼대정이라고 몽골 방면 일본 방면 미얀마 방면 전쟁들을 부르는 것들이 있는데 이 모두를 한꺼번에 치루고도 이자성의 난을 20년간 디펜스하던 놈인데
Ming was fighting against Manchu as well. Manchu's invasion of Joseon was really a gamble that ended up with surprising success for Manchus.
At that time, the Ming dynasty was also experiencing national difficulties, and the Ming dynasty also collapsed 8 years later.
nice movie
Im from korean
Th pe former jose9n dynasry was avessal state of mongol empire, a tribuoe state of the ming dynasty, and a vassal state of the qing dynasty. We lost dongha and 0rimosky kail, and we have advanced to foreign powers by "china" and "mongolia"
Namhansanseong , South Korea
1637
🇰🇷 Joseon
🇨🇳 Qing
Qing is not china
@@seoul_9584 那大清是什么，那中国的1000万满族人是哪个国家的
@@seoul_9584我絕對同意滿清非中國，它衹是征服了中國，但是你頭像中十二旒的冕不是高麗棒子區區彈丸小國配用的😅
@@Finnz619 Free Manchuria
Qing had cannons?
Ming already use cannon quite in big scale and in 1618 adapt Culverin cannon from Nederland(as far as I know they take it from Nederland in 1604 Ned vs Ming war)
They call replicated version of Culverin cannon 紅夷砲
Anyway, Qing organized surrendered Ming soilder who has skill in gun or cannon as auxiliary unit
they use replicate Culverin cannon on Joseon vs Qing war and got reputation for far better range and accuracy
@@검은꼬리 Qing (Manchurian) is known to despise firearms
Guilherme Matos Passarini Not sure about dispise on firearm but they understand its power
Later they promote auxilary soilders as regular army, Han division(corp? Army? Idk its military group that has political and social power)
Maybe like hundred years later yes? I dont think first emperor of Qing, Nurhachi, military jenius, really dispise firearm
@@검은꼬리
Cannons were invented in the east.
@@guilhermehx7159 They actually had excellent mobile cannons. Firearms would not be so useful against shock or horse archer cavalry for a long time
But some of the Manchu army are Ming🤔
The artillerists and gunners of the Manchu armies were mostly Han chinese.
This is before the Qing conquered the Ming. It is even mentioned in the movie that the manchus can not prolong their invasion of Joseon because they would rather spend their time conquering China. Which is why they accept the surrender. The battles raging in Shenyang between the invading Qing and the Ming is also mentioned in the movie.
@@wijse then just leave Korea alone.. Coz Korea has nothing to conquer.. Even their King is servant to the Emperor of China
@@briannorman399 "their King is servant to the Emperor of China"
That's......not true at all. In that case, Denno of Japan/Emperor of Viet Nam/Khan and Khaghans of Mongolian/Turkish empires throughout the history would be the servant of the Emperor of China.
As a European(or an American, I bet?) it would be hard for you to understand the relationship of China and other countries around, but such words would be a severe insult towards us.
@@커싄 Ming dynasty of China shared a close trade and diplomatic relationship with the Joseon dynasty of Korea. Both dynasties shared Confucian ideals in society. Ming China assisted Joseon Korea during Toyotomi Hideyoshi's invasion of Korea, in which the Wanli Emperor sent a total of 221,500 troops
Excuse me? A cannonball hits the ground and not everyone in a 5 meter radius dies? What the hell is this sorcery?
it is the normal cannonball not the exlposive one, you idiot do some research
Lots of cannonballs in that era were either simple iron balls, or even just dense stone. The object was to pound the fortress wall until the wall failed and a breach formed allowing attacking troops to flood in, as depicted in the movie. There were mortars that could lob exploding balls over the walls to kill people and destroy buildings, but I can't say whether they were used in this era. Certainly the movie does not depict the use of mortars, which are quite different from cannon and need to be located much closer to the target due to their trajectory.
Aparently you guys don't get sarcasm.. Calling someone an idiot whilst not even getting it pretty much makes you the idiot but hey have a great day, glad I gave you the opportunity to feel smart for once.
There was an explosive timebomb cannonball (비격진천뢰, 飛擊震天雷) in Joseon since 1592 imjin war. invented by Lee Jangson, national amoury(군기시, 軍器寺) technician.
True nomads vs sedentary rice-agriculturalists..
여진은 몽골과 같은 유목민은 아닙니다. 어느 정도 농사를 짓고, 어로활동과 해적도 했던 민족입니다. 그들은 이전에도 중국에 제국을 세운 똑똑한 민족이지. 야만인이 아닙니다.
melee I prefer
The Qing Dynasty of Manchus who made the Han Chinese into slavery. the Qianlong Emperor ordered to publish a history book that summarizes the history of the Manchu people. It's called Researches on Manchu Origins (欽定滿洲源流考). In describing the history of the Qing Dynasty, all the Han Chinese dynasties that existed in China were excluded, while several dynasties in the Korean Peninsula were recorded as their own histories. At that time, the Manchus regarded Koreans as brothers or cousins of the same lineage.
Although it is the most important historical book of the Qing Dynasty, the book has been neglected by the Han Chinese. According to their logic, the Manchus were not Chinese, but were of the same ancestry as Koreans. In other word, Han Chinese were enslaved by a kind of Koreans. Because of such a history, the Han Chinese are naming all kinds of foreign peoples, including the master people who made them slaves, as Chinese.
Native Americans, British, Germans, Italians, and countless other ethnic groups live in the United States, Americans, however, do not call British, Germans, and Italians American people, nor do they call their indigenous culture American culture.
However, the Han Chinese have a complex in which all ethnic groups, including their master people, living in China must be named '56 Chinese' to be freed from the complex of eternal enslavement.
According to that logic, the indigenous culture of the Korean ethnic, called Chaoxianzu, one of the 56 Chinese, is also Chinese culture. Therefore, things like kimchi and hanbok are Chinese culture.
As they try to save the face of the Han Chinese, a nation of eternal slaves, such an irrationality follows.
GAOLI BANGZI
simply bullshit
So said one South Korean right-wing nationalist trog
@@Naruto-ej4ki Just see the historical facts not just following CCP. You are just an example of the reason why all the people should live in democracy and rationality.
Many conflicts exist because of the people just like you who brainwashed by its authoritarian governments. The fact is ‘China’ is assimilating Manchus, Mongilans, Tibetan, Uyghur, Vietnames, Korean culture into China(Han) now.
The Han people have never denied the fact that they were once defeated and enslaved by the Manchus. It was the Chinese Communist Party who denied this fact, and the Chinese Communist Party who advocated the 56 ethnic groups. The Chinese Communist Party is not a Han ethnic party at all. I also never thought I was a so-called Chinese, I always thought I was Han, and my country (Hanland) is now being occupied by the CCP. The poor Koreans on the peninsula can only find pride through the nihilistic history, because the history of the Koreans is the history of being pet dogs to the great powers. If the Ming Dynasty of the Han people did not assist Korea in resisting Japan, it would not have consumed so much power and would not have been defeated by the Manchus. However, the Koreans surrendered to the Manchus early after receiving the help of the Ming Dynasty. The Koreans are garbage without shame.
Hulagu burns Baghdad be like
This movie was made by the director who made the squid game.
who wins
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Yeah! But Qing didn't slaughter them, they accepted Koreans' surrender instead.
@@ggyy311 they would've slaughtered them if they didn't
Ok
@@Michael-bm9de they slaughtered by korean many times before, they are not dare to slaughter koreans instead of peace treaty.
who knew that after a long time with high-tech technology will show that Koreans and Siberians aka the Altay people.. have the same ancestry as the Koreans by DNA.
Yeah it was obvious
Yeah, Korean and Mongolian sounded very similar to me.
@@randomthot125 Koreans and Manchus share similar DNA even though many Manchus todays are mixed with Chinese and mongols have totally different DNA.
@@destiny_6204 Not just me, TH-cam auto detects Mongolian as Korean.
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Compared to places like India (Golconda, Jodhpur, Chittorgarh, Jaisalmer etc) Korea's fortifications were so small and underwhelming. Here the Qing soldiers are climbing them without ladders while holding swords 😆😆
1. It's Qing, not Ming. They are different.
2. Actually, the wall is not high. Since it was built on a mountain, the walls did not need to be high.
@@jy4542 yes I know they are different, it's a typo. Hmm I've been to all the fortifications listed above, they are all on mountains too and still have high walls, try googling any of them. Jodhpur is a famous example.
I am from India and I believe our forts were majestic because of the constant seiges and battles they were in, it was made to depict power and welfare to other kingdoms/foriegn ones. Every kingdom differed in this pattern though like the marathas, rajputs(the above forts you mentioned are mostly from rajputana), carnatic and sikh kingdoms. Over time the royals built their capital there, lived there especially in case of many rajput kingdoms such as chittorgarh and it became the grounds for political and economic development apart from military purposes, unlike many east asian countries who made it to protect the capital city. I believe Korean forts were made in chinese/japanese style architecture (as most of them were built during the three kingdoms period) which was mainly used for defences purposes only until I think hwaseong. Another reason I can think of is the topography. This are just my thoughts on it which I made through the limited knowledge I have so I maybe wrong.
@@sakshiiii1270 also because Korea at this point hasn’t seen any major invasion for centuries beyond occasional nomad raiders and became a extraordinarily corrupt beaurocracy, at least until Japan invaded 40ish years before this movie’s setting.
@@schoolofgrowthhacking In fact, until the Goryeo Dynasty, walls were built more than 10 meters high, just like in China. However, after the Joseon Dynasty, there was no reason to fight China and their tactics were changed. so there was no need for high walls.
Same director with squid game
SCARY 😥
I'm Vietnamese ! Daiviet Dynasty battle win dynasty Ming . Tay Sơn Battle and Thanh win 🇻🇳👍👌
No one cares.
@@koryoball No one cares because no one like Vietnam. Firstly it's all come to being the favorite or not. 90% of the world hate Vietnam for being a independence nation. Meanwhile South Korea is the most favorite country in Asia aside from Japan. Secondly it's all come from culture influence. Japan has anime, sushi, car brands and girl in kimono. South Korea has Kpop, kimchi and car brands. Vietnam doesn't influence the world. Instead, we get hated so much just because we fought against invaders. It's all come down to being the favorite or being the influencer.
The world is like the parents, the countries is the child, the weakened and poor countries are the miserable one who get bullied and insulted, the developed and influenced are the favorite or the hardworking ones. The hardworking ones are often seeing as the superpower like US, Russia and China. Whereas the favorites like Japan, South Korea are the famous ones because they has anime and Kpop.
Because a nation that is not self sufficient and to other Peoples for help is not worthy of being an independent country! Ok
@@trietlyhoahong926 we are Vietnam spirit of longing for the because of freedom and independence . We fought and sacrificed our blood and blood for our ancestors worked hard to keep them alive and free the mortherland Vietnam , although our country . I am not like the rich countries in the world . Is in danger we are ready not to any force want to invade✊✊✊✊✊🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳
@@trietlyhoahong926 Harsh words but true.
This movie did everything wrong. For example:
-*Canons shoot at wall once, it's enough to crumble it. WRONG! It takes many days of bombarding a single section of wall to collapse it.* The movie had such an opportunity to portray what it is like to be under constant bombardment, and didn't take it.
-*A single breach is portrayed as a big deal. WRONG!* A single breach is a bottleneck that's disastrous for the attacker more than the defender.
-*No one is fighting or marching in any sort of formation, ever.* Soldiers march in a loose group of rifles, crossbowmen, spearmen and swordsmen.
-*Even when cavalry charges at them, the rifles stay at front, and at no point are replaced by pikemen/spearmen.* Could it be that koreans were so stupid that they didn't know pike and shoot formations in 1630's? Is this what this movie is saying?
-Somehow, everyone hears the officer shouting orders in the middle of the battle.
-Armor is like paper.
-Most footsoldiers are armed with swords, not polearms.
-They send the blacksmith on a suicidal mission. Why the blacksmith? The movie also implies he was the only blacksmith the fortress had.
-Little is shown from the perspective of common soldiers. It's just constant back and forth between the king and his one-dimensional advisors. Also, very funny how the advisors can echo the words their representative said in unison. Did they practice for it?
-The movie shows from the very beginning that the plan to defend that fortress was always a VERY BAD IDEA. It's underlined at every possible moment, to the point it's silly. It makes everyone who decided to defend despite such overwhelming odds look like a suicidal imbecile.
-Thus, when they finally surrender, the scene of king sloooowly prostrating himself before the Khan is not sad nor tragic nor melodramatic. It's just silly. It was the obvious outcome. And if it wasn't supposed to be obvious, the movie made no effort in portraying that, we weren't given any clue, any number, any ray of hope that maybe the idea to defend wasn't so bad after all.
-At the end of the movie, the conservative proponent of defence says "things will change for the better only when we all pass, and king passes, and kingdom passes, and all old things pass away....". Yeee, just drop feudalism and install democracy already. That's totally what a noble in 17th-century korea would have said.
And probably more, but whatever. It's a bad movie, it lacks historical authenticity, and fails to makes us care about the conflict portrayed. You cheer for the antagonists, but probably because you don't see them enough to witness them doing dumb and illogical things like the main characters do.
بلا هنا اودار عنما الله نمنام
Хэтэрхий доромжилсон хогийн хэнд ч хэрэггүй кино бн
яг яаж доромжилсон байна?
No oil
ㅉㄱ들 또또 지네 역사라고 우기지?
번역해서 보면 지들끼리 싸움 거 봐라 만주족은 오랑캐다 하면 아니다 우리 중국의 역사다 하면서 싸움 ㅂㅅ들임 ㅋㅋ
Reaction in Korea 15th century AD
King has no balls bruhh
Link song man
병자호란=>한국전쟁
Stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop korea asian battle korea wednesday 26 June 2019 Korea reaction airport
Most of the josean not braided hair but manchu does😎
Sad day for the Koreans, Koreans would have fend off the Manchus maybe for another 100 years should they accepted help from Japan. But too bad their grudge against Japanese were greater than the threats from Manchu..
?? 당시 일본은 한국의 적국이였습니다 일본이 우리를 도와줄 이유가 없습니다. 침략을 안당하려면 막강한 군사력을 키워야 하는데 그것을 하지못한 조선의 잘못이죠
그 당시 일본은 만주족을 막을 힘 따윈 없었음
@user-lf6yh8jw2z 이순신은 조선의 장군인데 만주족과는 아무 상관없음
🇨🇳 vs 🇰🇷🇰🇵
Qing is not China. They are Manchu(Manchuko). Just like Yuan is Mongol
@@youcan_21 now they are . Like it or not today china and russia take their Home land
@@youcan_21 满族人现在生活在中国，而且满清皇室后代在北京
@OK-qe4dr Then, Isn't Mongolia still a country today? Why does China claim that the Yuan Empire is also part of Chinese history?
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in 1789, the Qing attacked Vietnam with over 290 thousand of troops, at that time, the Qing very strong, their invasion to Tibet, Urumqi has succeed, but they cannot defeat VietNam
Ok boomer
Linh đánh vn hồi đó toàn dân Quang Tây, không phải người mãn tộc , chiến binh chuyên nghiệp
Oh great information! respecte vietnam!
Vietnam had a big advantage in repelling cavalry-based armies. We can not say that it was the vietnamese themselves who won, so much as their geography defeating outsiders.
@@jovegajo
Lê Jiang Zhong and Le royalists wanted to restore his dynasty so he begged Qing to invaded north Vietnam. Leader of Tây Sơn rebellion Nguyễn Quang Bình proclaimed emperor Quang Trung, stormed and crushed the Qing army
🇰🇷🇰🇵 vs 🇨🇳
China(ming) and qing is different people and country
@@xzxzxzxz9892 QIng was a successful uprising from Ming's rule.
@@xzxzxzxz9892 清是满族人，但是满族人和满清皇室是中国人
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This isn't a movie channel asshole! and sayonara dick head!
Fuck ... You
Cheap bastard lol
Fuck off then
Wth is that? a vietcong mortar?
Making this kind of movie at the same time sucking to the Americans doesn't make sense.
You must be Chinese lol
If Joseon did not accept their demands, Joseon would eventually perish and disappear. At this time, the Mongolian and Chinese Ming Dynasties perished and were absorbed into the Manchu Qing Dynasty.
Mongols were forced to marry Manchu royalty. The Chinese should have forced the Babarian hairstyle of the Manchus. for 400 years
On the other hand, Joseon was able to defend its country, but there was a lot of interference from the Manchus.