A FEW ADDITIONAL NOTES ABOUT CHARLES MARTEL: 1) If you use him as a primary in the end-game, people will focus target you under the assumption that you're a newer player. This is much less of a problem in small kingdoms, and more of a problem in bigger kingdoms 2) People are still using charles martel as an anti-swarm garrison. It does work, but ONLY if you can keep the garrison extremely full to maximize counterattack damage. 3) People constantly mock my guidance to avoid using universals on gold key commanders, HOWEVER, by the time F2P to mid-spenders get even remotely close to maxing charles martel by rushing with your universal sculptures, you'll immediately feel the regret this choice because you could have instead saved those sculptures for end-game commanders (available starting in S3).
He is pretty dope early game. I remember back in the day we would tank rallies with Charles YSG. Of course zeno and wu came out later, wu even had a bug where you could create troops through healing. Was fun as hell. (as long as you didn't get banned)
Martel is still good. I still use him in season of conquest and I always trade positive. I pair him with liu che and this combo absolutely destroys meta commanders
@@arzos2603 No I'm in seed B. I mainly use gorgo liu che and guan scipio but sometimes i use charles martel and liu che to mess with enemies and i always trade positive
nice repetetive content bro, but can u tell the devs to give us more march speed . i mean we have work and needs some sleep and rest after finishing an event such 7k event barb killings the slow march speed make us bored n the game super fking slow paced😪😪😪
They could flip the script and make many early game commanders relevant by changing their City garrison/rally skills to be AOO garrison/rally skills. Honestly, AOO/OL is far more enjoyable game experience than kvk, and the rewards per hour played and rss used are phenomenally better than a kvk. Taking the differences between AOO and kvk Lilith can give more commanders for players to focus on. They need more "niche" commanders. Whales can spend for everything, but low spenders/f2p could then be more useful to an AOO team then they currently are, and by extension, more useful to their alliance and kingdom. F2p and low-spenders drop out before SOC because they get tired of serving virtually 0 purpose other than fodder for the other kindgoms' whales. And that's not fun. Make f2p Fun Again!
Glad you're still making videos on rok. I remember when you first started making videos. I just recently started a new account, and all this new kvk content everyone is talking about is confusing 😆
I also pair him with guan yu primary, beacuse guan is priority when they attack you on the openfield or in ark. Maybe even more priority target is only nevsky or sometimes zhuge.
I am running Nevsky Min in KVK3 with Double relic on Min. I can either double relic Aethel or Martel for a future secondary Infantry Commander when i get a primary SOC Infantry Commander 👀
Lets be honest here If you are spending like crazy and are stronger than anyone else anyways you can make martel work since you can make mostly anything work. But if you are a low spender and think about pumping out more marches then just stop. Every good free to play or low spender will tell you that quality is better than quantity. Maybe in the lowest of D kds you can get away with it but pls for the love of god just dont.
Maybe talk about Lilith ruining the game with each update, gambling mechanics, not rewarding actually playing the game, just de opposit destroying it for f2p and low spenders with cutting down mechanics that are at least bit rewarding for playing?
Something to think about this game is that it’s free and it doesn’t have ads. Developers need revenue to keep this game alive. It will never be f2p friendly no matter how many times we complain.
@@DeehyazTheir income is shrinking from year to year, cause more and more f2p and low spenders leave which leads to big spenders leaving too in big numbers, the game is falling and the only thing they come up with more and more pay mechanics, instead of making the game more viable and enjoyable for the broad playerbase. Yeah they need the spenders, but spenders will leave with the broad player base too
what is the surprise about a F2P legendary being good... it must have not one, a bunch of them for the game being viable. ask people what they think about pay 2 win games. the game should allow you to be "competitive" without putting a single penny on it, abviously it will cost you more time and effort. that is the basement of a real F2P game, with microtransactions
i have a max Scipio and a decent legendary set equipment.. is it better to use martel as primary or secondary.. i also have a max LC but planning him as my 2nd march with alex behind him..
Which commanders work better with Arch, Hollow Square, Triple Line, Testudo over Wedge. Like would Liu Che make more sense with Arch over Wedge because he’s doing Smite damage? Would Joan Prime be compatible with Echeleon?
Well I wouldn't recommend this but technically if your low on star sculptures for some reason, those gold key heads can be used to upgrade star level, which I guess doesn't make it a dead drop just a extremely low powered star sculpture 😅
i spent 100 gh to get him to 5511 in kvk1, trust me he can barbchain when you get zhuge, he can do shadowlegion, karuak events. i earned those 100gh right back from events and did well in kvk1 and 2. if you can get him to 5511 in less than 100gh then good. if you spend more than 130gh then its not good investment anymore
not hating, but the new editing is a bit juddery, for me. Way it's jumping between lines is sometime skipping out words, much better when you get a straight run talking. Bit jumpy and also the speech speed and tones. Liking these reviews!!
This is such a great video Chisgule! I'm F2P and it's ridiculous that people are mocking your guidance to not use universals on gold key commanders. These must be people who have no longevity planned...my Martel is only 3111 but my focus is my YSG and Richard. I know eventually I'll get Charles to 5555 so why rush and waste universal sculptures
Hey big fan learned a lot from your videos… check out 3373 new kingdom with huge potential kvk1 was 73,74,75 vs 76 but 74,75 betrayed 73 and now 73 is taking on all three kingdoms
Whats up with Mulan? Nobody ever talks about her but for some reason the top 30ish people in lost canyon in my last kvk had mulan in one of their 5 marches.
Mulan is not a great field commander, but is staple in canyon. The reason is that you don't know if the buffed stats will be relevant in a field brawl (you hope they will), but you know every second of that %-based boost will be relevant in canyon because all sides just run it down.
Ive used CM LC and it slaps but its swarmed a lot so I swapped it around. Its probably really good in small aoo or canyon but for open fielding not really unless you have a great murder ball
Yeah but its way better than what I was using. I’m also using CM/Liu. He doesn’t take anymore sevs than my other marches but he doesn’t get a lot of kills. High defense makes him last a long time despite being really slow
@@xdzenon980 Use charles(5211) and sun tzu, use no gold heads. Fight until alex gets on the wheel and use alex (5511) with sun tzu. Liu che got on the wheel a few days ago so now i got liu(5541) alex(5511)
Hermann P 5551 is better than max ysg? If yes, is it necessary for a player like me to spend 380 gh on him?! And we have to keep an eye on the next cav bcz I have 400gh right now.
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A FEW ADDITIONAL NOTES ABOUT CHARLES MARTEL:
1) If you use him as a primary in the end-game, people will focus target you under the assumption that you're a newer player. This is much less of a problem in small kingdoms, and more of a problem in bigger kingdoms
2) People are still using charles martel as an anti-swarm garrison. It does work, but ONLY if you can keep the garrison extremely full to maximize counterattack damage.
3) People constantly mock my guidance to avoid using universals on gold key commanders, HOWEVER, by the time F2P to mid-spenders get even remotely close to maxing charles martel by rushing with your universal sculptures, you'll immediately feel the regret this choice because you could have instead saved those sculptures for end-game commanders (available starting in S3).
Love you chis thanks for this vid I needed it
Which formation is the best for Charles Martel?
Would you suggest Pyrrhus and Martel?
He is pretty dope early game. I remember back in the day we would tank rallies with Charles YSG. Of course zeno and wu came out later, wu even had a bug where you could create troops through healing. Was fun as hell. (as long as you didn't get banned)
Martel is still good. I still use him in season of conquest and I always trade positive. I pair him with liu che and this combo absolutely destroys meta commanders
you must be in a low seed kd i assume?
@@arzos2603 No I'm in seed B. I mainly use gorgo liu che and guan scipio but sometimes i use charles martel and liu che to mess with enemies and i always trade positive
Yes liu cm is cracked for city poping march it just trade so so positive like fck
Btw m in SEED A kd
Is it better than scipio prime?
Shield is one of the best things about him. When activated, it could lessen or completely block the incoming attacks including aoe skills
nice repetetive content bro, but can u tell the devs to give us more march speed . i mean we have work and needs some sleep and rest after finishing an event such 7k event barb killings the slow march speed make us bored n the game super fking slow paced😪😪😪
They could flip the script and make many early game commanders relevant by changing their City garrison/rally skills to be AOO garrison/rally skills. Honestly, AOO/OL is far more enjoyable game experience than kvk, and the rewards per hour played and rss used are phenomenally better than a kvk. Taking the differences between AOO and kvk Lilith can give more commanders for players to focus on. They need more "niche" commanders. Whales can spend for everything, but low spenders/f2p could then be more useful to an AOO team then they currently are, and by extension, more useful to their alliance and kingdom. F2p and low-spenders drop out before SOC because they get tired of serving virtually 0 purpose other than fodder for the other kindgoms' whales. And that's not fun. Make f2p Fun Again!
Thank you for the update on this early commanders it really helps me
I like these "Should you use..." Videos a lot!
Charles, Aethelflayed & Mehmet are the top 3 best free commanders in ROK.
You missed CM+Phyrrus (for early)
My favourite commander❤❤❤
Glad you're still making videos on rok. I remember when you first started making videos. I just recently started a new account, and all this new kvk content everyone is talking about is confusing 😆
I also pair him with guan yu primary, beacuse guan is priority when they attack you on the openfield or in ark. Maybe even more priority target is only nevsky or sometimes zhuge.
9:42 I have been using Charles/Liu Che. Its a better than anything I was using before. And what I was using before was Mehmed 5524
I am running Nevsky Min in KVK3 with Double relic on Min.
I can either double relic Aethel or Martel for a future secondary Infantry Commander when i get a primary SOC Infantry Commander 👀
Cool editing!
Lets be honest here
If you are spending like crazy and are stronger than anyone else anyways you can make martel work since you can make mostly anything work.
But if you are a low spender and think about pumping out more marches then just stop. Every good free to play or low spender will tell you that quality is better than quantity. Maybe in the lowest of D kds you can get away with it but pls for the love of god just dont.
Make a video on Pyrrhus please! Or Pyrrhus with Liu Che!
i use him whit gorgo in garisons and he is realy good against swarms
Maybe talk about Lilith ruining the game with each update, gambling mechanics, not rewarding actually playing the game, just de opposit destroying it for f2p and low spenders with cutting down mechanics that are at least bit rewarding for playing?
Your delusional. F2p can develop very strong accounts over time. And spending time into the game is descently rewarded.
@@ferisadi2418I am playing a 70 Mil almost 4BN KP f2p account dont tell me the game is good at this point, its getting worst and worst open your eyes
Something to think about this game is that it’s free and it doesn’t have ads. Developers need revenue to keep this game alive. It will never be f2p friendly no matter how many times we complain.
@@DeehyazTheir income is shrinking from year to year, cause more and more f2p and low spenders leave which leads to big spenders leaving too in big numbers, the game is falling and the only thing they come up with more and more pay mechanics, instead of making the game more viable and enjoyable for the broad playerbase. Yeah they need the spenders, but spenders will leave with the broad player base too
@@ferisadi2418i have a 70 mil almost 4BN KP f2p account dont tell me anything about the hustle, only one delusional here is you
NICE EDIT CHISGULE
Martel has been goated for years
what is the surprise about a F2P legendary being good... it must have not one, a bunch of them for the game being viable.
ask people what they think about pay 2 win games.
the game should allow you to be "competitive" without putting a single penny on it, abviously it will cost you more time and effort.
that is the basement of a real F2P game, with microtransactions
i have a max Scipio and a decent legendary set equipment.. is it better to use martel as primary or secondary.. i also have a max LC but planning him as my 2nd march with alex behind him..
In my opinion, CM/Scippy and LC/Alex
Chisgule only 5 years late to the party 🥴
wouldn't the blessed blade be a good early game weapon, as it grants 6% more infantry health? 🤔
Took me 1100 days to expertise him 😂
Which commanders work better with Arch, Hollow Square, Triple Line, Testudo over Wedge.
Like would Liu Che make more sense with Arch over Wedge because he’s doing Smite damage?
Would Joan Prime be compatible with Echeleon?
I want to know the answer to this too
Just unlocked him today 46 days in to playing the game good to hear it's a good commander
what best secondary for city defense with CM
He’s good secondary with skippy if he has museum buffs
Well I wouldn't recommend this but technically if your low on star sculptures for some reason, those gold key heads can be used to upgrade star level, which I guess doesn't make it a dead drop just a extremely low powered star sculpture 😅
You eventually get so many gold stars you dont end up using them all. Honestly patience is better
Can’t they also be traded in pre-KVK in one of the events?
i spent 100 gh to get him to 5511 in kvk1, trust me he can barbchain when you get zhuge, he can do shadowlegion, karuak events. i earned those 100gh right back from events and did well in kvk1 and 2. if you can get him to 5511 in less than 100gh then good. if you spend more than 130gh then its not good investment anymore
100gh totally wasted🥲
@@popeye_rokyeah cause running bjorn suntzu is totally worth it to suffer for 2 kvk when you can get those 100gh in just 50 days of being vip12
Eu ficaria grato se você pudesse adicionar a legenda para português 😁
not hating, but the new editing is a bit juddery, for me. Way it's jumping between lines is sometime skipping out words, much better when you get a straight run talking. Bit jumpy and also the speech speed and tones. Liking these reviews!!
My city got rallied with a 2.5 mil t5 rally while having charles and liu as guarrisson...i won with an acceptable~decent trade ( am f2p also)
This is such a great video Chisgule! I'm F2P and it's ridiculous that people are mocking your guidance to not use universals on gold key commanders. These must be people who have no longevity planned...my Martel is only 3111 but my focus is my YSG and Richard. I know eventually I'll get Charles to 5555 so why rush and waste universal sculptures
Hey big fan learned a lot from your videos… check out 3373 new kingdom with huge potential kvk1 was 73,74,75 vs 76 but 74,75 betrayed 73 and now 73 is taking on all three kingdoms
Good vídeo chis , greethings from Spain ❤😊
I love the new editing style💜
is charles martel and mehmed the second good togheter?
Although I’m early game I’m finding him paired with Pyrrhus is pretty good
Ive Been using him in kvk1 with Scipio and the counter attack damage was insane lol but Could he be good pair with Liu Che?
What about Martel pair Charlemagne both have crazy museum stats ?
Hi! Thanks for the vidéo! What about minomoto pair?
"just steal a no.1 MGE pre kvk1 and migrate to a winning kvk1 kd"
Editing has stepped up a level. Very nice
What about cao cao does he go with him
Whats up with Mulan? Nobody ever talks about her but for some reason the top 30ish people in lost canyon in my last kvk had mulan in one of their 5 marches.
Mulan is not a great field commander, but is staple in canyon. The reason is that you don't know if the buffed stats will be relevant in a field brawl (you hope they will), but you know every second of that %-based boost will be relevant in canyon because all sides just run it down.
Hey bro!! do you know anyone who is accepting immigrants?
Good bye charlie meta lasted a bit and was nice a simpler time
what about charles paired with harald ? infinite counter attack damage, a lot of damage but also very tanky with charles as primary
I think this was viable a couple years ago. At this point you could still do it but it’s imo tiers weaker than other things you could do
Day 2 requesting an updated ranged attack video
Ive used CM LC and it slaps but its swarmed a lot so I swapped it around. Its probably really good in small aoo or canyon but for open fielding not really unless you have a great murder ball
Yeah but its way better than what I was using. I’m also using CM/Liu. He doesn’t take anymore sevs than my other marches but he doesn’t get a lot of kills. High defense makes him last a long time despite being really slow
Another commander video from Chisgule that is on point. Classic
How about cm and pyrrhus?
Lost for new topics much? 😂
60k keys imagine opening all at once
I'm new to the game and who's better...richard or martel?
They’re different. Both are good in the early game but fall off big in the late game.
OP Martel
W editor
Imagine using Charles Martel in 2024 😂
I’m knew to the game, this is like my 5th day and I was gonna use em lol I guess it’s ok cuz I just started right.
Martel Scipio just try it its good for me as f2p😊😊😊😊
Do You have Scipio on 5555?
Yes i have max scipio 5555
CM Pakal ?
Maybe in 2020 to cheeseburger, but I wouldn’t run that today.
What civ, are you
I'm planning on using him for kvk2. I am f2p and he is now 5111. Pair with Sun or Bjorn? And are gold heads worth it?
Gold head worthless, suntzu will be better
what did you end up choosing i’m heading into kvk1
@@xdzenon980 Use charles(5211) and sun tzu, use no gold heads. Fight until alex gets on the wheel and use alex (5511) with sun tzu.
Liu che got on the wheel a few days ago so now i got liu(5541) alex(5511)
@@itzrinkii2547 appreciate it bro
Ey new video editing am IN
Dying game
Kvk 1: martel-ysg: did you forget about me👀
Haha kinda. Thutmose ysg better.
@@Chisgule fair i might be a too old player🤣
Over 1800 days old ( but still younger than you😜)
May i ask if armour and formation actually matter in city defense??
yes
Yes, they matter a lot
Ah the killer of kingdoms..😂😂rip 2268😂
Better be careful or your kingdom is next!
@Chisgule 🤣🤣 already hit it
Hermann P 5551 is better than max ysg? If yes, is it necessary for a player like me to spend 380 gh on him?! And we have to keep an eye on the next cav bcz I have 400gh right now.
first
Great new editing!!
Love cm ysg
I usually use Ethel up front and Charles in the back .....???
That’s a surprising way to order it. I’d flip that