@@AndreijRublev I keep all my old computers just for running bits of old useful software, I'm always happy when something seemingly obsolete can be useful... I have an old parametric EQ someone gave me so I'm very happy you've given me an idea of what to do with it now! the old broken SPX90 they gave me too is fine with new capacitors... viva old shit!!
Ooohh thanks! I loved it too! I cut a few minutes of that video's section but you can totally see that I waited a bit just to have the time to listen to that drone with the reverb. So nice.
Very cool! I had a brainstorm: you could split off an output to feed the signal to a strobe tuner. This would provide the ability to slide the pitches into (and out of) tune precisely when playing alongside more traditional instruments.
Very cool! That EQ is quite a versatile instrument. You can go from goofy whimsical noises to eerie ambient sounds to techno but the ambient sounds are the best.
What an amazing wonderful surprise! Opening doors in the wall that I never even ever expected to find! And I love the music you made after the description. Best regards from Southern Belgium.
This is awesome! That is some amazing synth tones you're getting out of that thing plus the versatility is pretty impressive. Totally usable in all sorts of ways. Im In the brainstorming stage of building a set of stand alone bass pedals like the moog Taurus. If I could use something like this for the core oscillator then run it thru some dividers to produce the 12 different pitches it might just be crazy enough to work 😜
once you add the shimmer effect it gets a very nice sound. It starts sounding like those recordings from the space.... wow. but did you set a control volume also in between the eq and the pedal effect to don't damage the pedal?
yep, in that section of the video the effects are on an ausiliary channel of my mixer, so I can control the volume. In general anyway you can connect a no input device directly to effect pedals, but it's way more difficult to use them properly, because the signal is super hot, and they react in weird ways. I haven't damaged any pedal yet even doing it (for example the rack effects I used in the last part of the video are connected directly)
I wish I could give both this video and you, as a creator, multiple thumbs up for this specific video. For me, this has been the most important of all your videos so far. I have been playing around with synthesizers since I got my Juno 6 in the early 80's, but this really explained to me in a very understandable way how wave-shaping in analog synths works. Now a question: if you've built up a great loop with a solid rhythm, and in messing around with it, you introduce and dial in a wonderful tone for a "lead" melodic sound, is there a way to isolate it so you can control its pitch without changing anything else happening in the loop?
Thank you so much for the kind words, I'm super happy that my work is useful! To answer your question: not really. Isolating a sound when we are speaking of feedbacks is kinda impossible because they are constantly interacting in the feedback loop, but there are workarounds, like for example I did in my last video ( th-cam.com/video/-GatV-O4_Qo/w-d-xo.html ): using multiple indipendent devices with their own feedbacks. In that video the rythm (what I called the "kick drum") was created in the graphic eq and it stayed there as a stable structure. All of the feedbacks in another device, a no input mixer where I connected the eq, are affected by it but I can leave it there to do it's job with no risk to break the rythm. You can apply the same principle to a "melodic line", using a dedicated device for the purpose. Sometimes with some mixers it is possible to have a couple of separate feedbacks (but it depends on the internal routing and it's not possible in every mixer. Then you have to face cross talking between channel, etc etc) and that can also be a possible workaround, but less consistent.
Wouldn't it be possible to start building the patch with a controller built-in to the feedback loop to begin with (I would assume only CV controllers would work)?
Thanks! In this case you have two indipendent channels, so you need at least one mono splitter to duplicate an output and patch it back into its own input. Then you send the other splitted signal to the second channel input and from the second channel output to the audio interface/mixer/whatever. You can add more complexity with another splitter, but it is not necessary. One is required anyway.
It is good to get second hand equipment because you can sell it on too. If you look after it and repair you may be able to sell it for about the same price as you bought it for. You could use something you like for two years and get your money back to get something new. If you love it, keep it.
whats the drum synth thingy you have on top, ive seen it a few of your videos always making that techno stomp i really love, is it a looper? need to get my hands on it
It's not a drum, it is actually a filter in self oscillation. It is a Waldorf 2 pole. Unfortunately it was discontinued a few years ago, but maybe you can find some of them in the second hand market.
ah yes okay, watched your how to make techno video and realized, sad they dont make them anymore it's pretty awesome,. will definitely still be looking for it :) tthanks
@@AndreijRublev as for the technique, yes I could use anything really. But I was moved by your words about the stories these old analogue pieces hold, so im inspired to look for something like that in the future for myself
@@mutedsounds2k Grazie caro! Secondo me questo è parecchio interessante, soprattutto per chi è più interessato al sound design e meno al lato improvvisativo/caotico del no input. Spero ti piacerà!
@@AndreijRublev Tutto ciò che è "no input", specialmente se può essere suonato con un singolo strumento e qualche cavo, è oro per me. Essendo un maniaco per i sintetizzatori, questo è per un campo ancora inesplorato, ma interessantissimo.
It's rather difficult. In general these audio circuits are designed to handle a hot/saturated signal. Unless the unit is old and with some issues it shouldn't be a problem.
Вообще очень интересная техника получения звука! Я помню, купил микшер и неделю , почти не вставая угорал от процесса и прямо-таки магического действа)
That's great! Happy that you are using feedback, it is such a fascinating world! And also sorry, I don't know cyrillic (I'm italian, despite of the artist name 😂).
I'm still really looking forward to the tutorial by Mr Knight (closedcircuits channel) on how to use low-frequency feedback to create rhythmic noise loops and turn them into kick, snare, etc. Maybe you know something about it too?
I get surprised everytime how creative and versatile no-input technique can be..
Same here!
Same here...
I one hundred percent agree with your ethics regarding recycling old gear
That's a pretty important chiice for me, glad you share the same approach!
@@AndreijRublev I keep all my old computers just for running bits of old useful software, I'm always happy when something seemingly obsolete can be useful... I have an old parametric EQ someone gave me so I'm very happy you've given me an idea of what to do with it now! the old broken SPX90 they gave me too is fine with new capacitors... viva old shit!!
@@jameshodson3450 Viva! And keep me updated on how it goes with the eq!
I could listen to that drone for a looooong time too. Perfect.
Yeah it's a lovely drone machine.
Epic!
Thanks!
Dude you got me crying with the shimmer reverb, that was so beautiful, i love it.
Ooohh thanks! I loved it too! I cut a few minutes of that video's section but you can totally see that I waited a bit just to have the time to listen to that drone with the reverb. So nice.
This is absolutely fantastic, inspiring and impressive
Thanks!
Very cool! I had a brainstorm: you could split off an output to feed the signal to a strobe tuner. This would provide the ability to slide the pitches into (and out of) tune precisely when playing alongside more traditional instruments.
That's a great idea. I don't own a strobe tuner but I frequently use an harmonizer (basically an autotune effect).
You've got a lot of imagination, I really like your tutos. To protect me with no input experiment I always use the boss LS-2 to control the volume.
Thank you! Glad you appreciate the videos!
Very cool! That EQ is quite a versatile instrument. You can go from goofy whimsical noises to eerie ambient sounds to techno but the ambient sounds are the best.
Totally agree! It can be super precise and at the same time create unexpected stuff.
What an amazing wonderful surprise! Opening doors in the wall that I never even ever expected to find! And I love the music you made after the description. Best regards from Southern Belgium.
Thank you so much for the kind words!
I'm going to be trying it on a multi input and output, thanks! I could listen all day, that's amazing!
Have fun!
this series is making me want to get so many things RIGHT NOW, and also use all my old and semi dead computers to make music
Once again a great an inspiring Video with a wonderful jam at the end. ...and rhe drone with that shimmer reverb.. sugar and gold in the same time!
Thanks!
Thanks for the new idea! I would never have thought that the equalizer can be used in this way)) Have a great "noisy" weekend everyone!)
Super happy to hear that! Have a noisy time too!
Purely amazing. Thank you Andreij!
Thank you! Happy you liked it!
Nice video. Great choice of mixer, so many inputs and out puts. Choice of many feedback artists.
Thank you!
Truly inspirational my friend! Thank you for opening my eyes to the world of raw feedback oscillation
Super happy to hear that! It's a wonderful and deep rabbit hole, hope you'll enjoy the journey ;-) !
Bravo Señor! Bravo! That was another awesome display of imagination! Greetings from New Mexico Brother!
Thanks! A hug from Italy!
Man. I love your videos. Period. That is all.
Thank you! Much appreciated!
Can't wait!
O come si suol dire..non vedo l'ora!
Daghe!
Hell, yeah!
Ovvero... dannatamente SI!
This is awesome! That is some amazing synth tones you're getting out of that thing plus the versatility is pretty impressive. Totally usable in all sorts of ways. Im In the brainstorming stage of building a set of stand alone bass pedals like the moog Taurus. If I could use something like this for the core oscillator then run it thru some dividers to produce the 12 different pitches it might just be crazy enough to work 😜
Amazing. Gotta dig out my big EQ and have a play!
Let's go!
Really nice! I have one of those lying around, never thought this could work in a non-input mixing setup. Preventive like, thanks Andreij
Thanks! Let me know how it goes with it ;)
i was just about to sell my old EQ ADC Sound Shaper, now i will test it as you explain, and probably keep it ! Thx you !
Hope you'll find something interesting and useful!
@@AndreijRublev its works perfectly fine, its RCA conectics but i figure it out how to plug it on my main mixer.
Now i got two NIMB system !
@@Klint490 Let's go!
dude that jumpscare at the end O_o
Sorry, the feedback was calling for a resolution hahaha!
This is so bloody cool!
Totally! Thanks!
i love this, thank you for your tutorials
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed them!
Gorgeus, as usual!
Thanks!
That jam around the 15:00 mark is cool.
Thanks!
once you add the shimmer effect it gets a very nice sound. It starts sounding like those recordings from the space.... wow. but did you set a control volume also in between the eq and the pedal effect to don't damage the pedal?
yep, in that section of the video the effects are on an ausiliary channel of my mixer, so I can control the volume. In general anyway you can connect a no input device directly to effect pedals, but it's way more difficult to use them properly, because the signal is super hot, and they react in weird ways. I haven't damaged any pedal yet even doing it (for example the rack effects I used in the last part of the video are connected directly)
Nice piece of gear and 15 sliders per channel make it a supertool 👌
Absolutely! A super nice eq!
I wish I could give both this video and you, as a creator, multiple thumbs up for this specific video. For me, this has been the most important of all your videos so far. I have been playing around with synthesizers since I got my Juno 6 in the early 80's, but this really explained to me in a very understandable way how wave-shaping in analog synths works.
Now a question: if you've built up a great loop with a solid rhythm, and in messing around with it, you introduce and dial in a wonderful tone for a "lead" melodic sound, is there a way to isolate it so you can control its pitch without changing anything else happening in the loop?
Thank you so much for the kind words, I'm super happy that my work is useful!
To answer your question: not really. Isolating a sound when we are speaking of feedbacks is kinda impossible because they are constantly interacting in the feedback loop, but there are workarounds, like for example I did in my last video ( th-cam.com/video/-GatV-O4_Qo/w-d-xo.html ): using multiple indipendent devices with their own feedbacks. In that video the rythm (what I called the "kick drum") was created in the graphic eq and it stayed there as a stable structure. All of the feedbacks in another device, a no input mixer where I connected the eq, are affected by it but I can leave it there to do it's job with no risk to break the rythm. You can apply the same principle to a "melodic line", using a dedicated device for the purpose. Sometimes with some mixers it is possible to have a couple of separate feedbacks (but it depends on the internal routing and it's not possible in every mixer. Then you have to face cross talking between channel, etc etc) and that can also be a possible workaround, but less consistent.
Wouldn't it be possible to start building the patch with a controller built-in to the feedback loop to begin with (I would assume only CV controllers would work)?
@@roycevanbeethoven My next video is exactly on cv signals in no input setups. Out this Sunday: th-cam.com/video/XhopdOZ9BeM/w-d-xo.html
@@AndreijRublev Awesome! Keep up the incredible work!
@@roycevanbeethoven Thanks!
9:24 just wow!!!
Thanks!
I've got to try this!
@@SonusLucis-i9m Let us know how it goes ;-) have fun!
OK, now I do need a graphic EQ!!
Excelent video! I would like to know how is the setup in this case? Is always necessary the mono splitters, or it works without them?
Thanks! In this case you have two indipendent channels, so you need at least one mono splitter to duplicate an output and patch it back into its own input. Then you send the other splitted signal to the second channel input and from the second channel output to the audio interface/mixer/whatever. You can add more complexity with another splitter, but it is not necessary. One is required anyway.
Great video, great fun. Thanks.
Thank you!
9:50 That has some serious vibes from The Shining soundtrack.
It's a pleasure to be compared (from far away and mostly by chance hahaha) to Wendy Carlos' work! Thanks!
It is good to get second hand equipment because you can sell it on too. If you look after it and repair you may be able to sell it for about the same price as you bought it for. You could use something you like for two years and get your money back to get something new. If you love it, keep it.
Very true!
whats the drum synth thingy you have on top, ive seen it a few of your videos always making that techno stomp i really love, is it a looper? need to get my hands on it
It's not a drum, it is actually a filter in self oscillation. It is a Waldorf 2 pole. Unfortunately it was discontinued a few years ago, but maybe you can find some of them in the second hand market.
ah yes okay, watched your how to make techno video and realized, sad they dont make them anymore it's pretty awesome,. will definitely still be looking for it :) tthanks
This weekend i will try a single channel equalizer and see if that would work
Great! Let us know how it goes!
Man I should really get some analogue gear at some point this technique is so cool
You can totally try it with super cheap hardware ;) No need to spend a lot of money on it!
@@AndreijRublev as for the technique, yes I could use anything really. But I was moved by your words about the stories these old analogue pieces hold, so im inspired to look for something like that in the future for myself
Lovely! Good luck and I hope you'll find some great piece od gear and memories!
Very supprised how beefy and organic the texture of the sound is
It is really rich in term of timbre, totally.
Is the shimmer reverb the TC Electronics Shimmer Reverb?
@@dereklafferty Yes it is!
5 minutes in and I’m going shopping again ! Ah well, better hardware repeats on you than foodstuff I say ...
😂😂😂
Grande, Andrea!!!
Grazie!
@@AndreijRublev Aspetto con ansia il nuovo tutorial!
@@mutedsounds2k Grazie caro! Secondo me questo è parecchio interessante, soprattutto per chi è più interessato al sound design e meno al lato improvvisativo/caotico del no input. Spero ti piacerà!
@@AndreijRublev Tutto ciò che è "no input", specialmente se può essere suonato con un singolo strumento e qualche cavo, è oro per me.
Essendo un maniaco per i sintetizzatori, questo è per un campo ancora inesplorato, ma interessantissimo.
Dai, allora son sicuro che questo ti intrigherà parecchio!
Doesnt this brake the Unit for ormal Use after while? Very creative here!
It's rather difficult. In general these audio circuits are designed to handle a hot/saturated signal. Unless the unit is old and with some issues it shouldn't be a problem.
@@AndreijRublev Do yu use it also for EQin or just als FeedBack Maschine?
@@lofimat3856 I use it only as a feedback machine, but it works well also as a standard EQ.
@@AndreijRublev Than yu much for Answering me!!
@@lofimat3856 you're welcome! Always happy to help!
A matrix mixer and a patchbay work well with this system
For sure!
09:50 sounds epic
Totally, lovely drone!
💙
11:30 sounds like an Access Virus. WILD!
Nice comparison. You can see this setup as a sort of weird and obscure FM synthesizer so I guess there is a common ground with the Virus 😊
❤👏👏🙌🏼
Quite haunting
бомба)))я на айпаде подобную технику применил.После просмотра вашего видео с микшером.Закольцевал звук с помощью двух приложений
Вообще очень интересная техника получения звука! Я помню, купил микшер и неделю , почти не вставая угорал от процесса и прямо-таки магического действа)
That's great! Happy that you are using feedback, it is such a fascinating world! And also sorry, I don't know cyrillic (I'm italian, despite of the artist name 😂).
И вы меня извините, я английского не знаю 🤷но слава богу есть переводчики)))
@@Solodchuk Totally! Translators work super well in this case! Have a nice time!
👍I LOVE ! 💙⚪❤
Thank you!
Andreij ma sei italiano?
Si! Il mio accento mi tradisce abbastanza hahaha
Андрюха решил копнуть глубже всех 😁
Totally! Feedbacks are so fascinating, I never get tired to work with them
@@AndreijRublev Stay strong, brother! Your videos is very inspiring stuff.
I'm still really looking forward to the tutorial by Mr Knight (closedcircuits channel) on how to use low-frequency feedback to create rhythmic noise loops and turn them into kick, snare, etc. Maybe you know something about it too?
@@MrUnsign Yes, it's totally doable! Noted in my list for the next videos ;)
@@AndreijRublev Great stuff coming soon! Can't wait! Many thanx for your hard work
HMM....There is a sound.
Yes, indeed 😂