also might want to backline those taurens when if they have banshees (if you want ghouls to be stolen instead) though they might die too quickly so a few taurens (this time you had siege engines so could have built those instead of taurens at the front and a shit ton of ghouls on the sides i think. inbetween but mostly ghouls upfront, then ranged army and then the rest of the taurens
Ikr lol. Sucks the tourney is struggling.. playerbase is too low. Not too motivated to create a team with randos that I dont play often w/ go against strong opponents. Shuffle players tourney maybe might be more interesting like we've discussed hehe 😉
Man this was a hard watch ngl. Oreo excavating the entire planet with 4 mines and you guys coming to the wrong conclusions. When you see banshees dont build aboms or any t3 melee except mountain giant(except if you have cheap spammable units you can put in front that dont die immediatly like mass ghoul/necro skellis. Hawk does more damage to grunts but misha is misha. It's like getting necro in hellhalt and saying na scarecrow steals units so it has to be better than a unit that just kills them fast. mortar got buffed but is still trash when you see siege you either go siege engines and demolisher or just more regular units. When he masses grunts vs your hero you try to either make your hero tanky and get units to pick them off or you go t3 and frostworms insta. To be fair you got really unlucky not getting any dispell vs banshees twice in a row which is the equivalent of getting diagnosed with cancer when you had aids to begin with. Dark ranger can silence dreadlord if you have Amulet. the silence goes for a long time
🤣🤣 Ya u right I need to learn proper responses to whatever opponents are building but sometimes they aren't too clear since your roll might be trash Brother what happened you watching old vids you've been busy eh or not actively watching wc3 anymore?
@@VimpGaming ye trying to get off the WC3 crack for a bit makes me wanna play when i see it but my internet got so bad i dc everytime so i tried to distance myself from that content a bit so i dont get tempted but nowadays i dont even have WC3 installed lol. But it's good to see that married life and your romanian druidism hydroponics dont prevent you from making videos
@@Zetraxes I think uninstalling wc3 is the play in general copium Those plants taking over my life rn I'm fully emerged in the game. Hopefully it pays off 🤣 Sacrificing quality on YT vids but you know at least there is uploads. Raw footage what ppl like anyways right hehe
@@VimpGaming true as long as you dont take a month or 2 long break its all gucci. And as a wise man once said. "I got 30 and 6 in call of duty i told my brother that, and he plain and simply replied, does that matter. After that day i never played more than 10 mins of any video game in my life" -Tristan Tate In the end we have to decide what matters in life if its friends family your work or a game there is actually no wrong answer as long as one can life with it
@@Zetraxes think it's better to matter what to convince yourself/brain that whatever endeavors you're after... its worth it. Or else you lack purpose & drive to continue. Still figuring out "main goals" & why I do YT & whatever else. It's kind of progressive pursuit where I can never fully put my fingers on it. But small goals are always fun you know like consistent uploads, small improvements/tweaks, etc.
You made a huge mistake by not going for the Bear, also, this map is somewhat stupid adding useless "+" Ability, at least make it a bit stronger and give heroes more levels available to get it.
most expensive gold mine is 375 gold, 0,5 * 750seconds = 375. so takes 12,5 minutes to recoup the cost of the last gold mine. 150,225,300,375 costs right? so.. first gold mine = 5 min second gold mine = 7,5 min third = 10 min last = 12,5 min. i'd think getting at least 2-3 is deffo worth. last one is probably not worth the pressure.. but yea gotta keep up the pressure. if you got clear lead early and stay on their side, last one might be worth. but 2-3 seems to be sweet spot. from my games against cousin in 1v1 having 4 gold mines is good tho. but 3v3 is different game as objectives die faster. Also.. when i play against him i oftentimes earn 3k more gold than he does. I'm wondering if the ''gold earned'' counts the cost of items.. im not sure it does, otherwise i dont know why golds would be so far apart
Yea well in one of the games oreo rushed 4 goldmines & in the end only had like 700 gold more total earned not sure how long the game went for exactly but eitherway the value seems low ye. Better off winning lane + getting gold from other objectives which benefits whole team 😅 Wonder how 1v1 dynamic goes vs ur cousin seems like might be hard to comeback once 1 player gets ahead hehe
as u say 1, 2 or 3 mines are the way to go, 4 seems really greedy. but as for the gold discrepancy between u and oreo, i do think there is something impacting what it shows. cause as i wrote the gold has been very weird for us too. im just thinking it's items on heroes not being showed for the overall gold spent, so it can be hard to tell. at least unless the gold written is bugged, you recoup the losses on 5, 7.5, 10 and 12.5 minutes from upgrade. as for the dynamics in 1v1, a lot of units actually counter each other. so it can go back and forth for a while. but when we tried with ''random units'' like u guys did it usually ends faster, because you don't have all the counter units that are in a specific race, and might just have 3 different kind of ballista and all melee.
@@Inulnu yee that's why 3v3 might be more balanced w/ rng like hellhalt. Where like 1 trash roll can be helped by other dual but idk most of the times you dont end up fighting ur actual opponent since units are delayed a bit so it's random guess thats what makes it exciting the "dynamic" matchmaking. Not sure if items count but I know I was full build & pretty sure oreo wasnt with his DR
Yea 4th mine isn't good, I'm just trolling lol. But 3rd gold mine is very good especially if u are the top player. Getting units early to rush as the guy on the top doesn't seem to matter too much from my experience.
@@oreo8118 Very wrong thinking. The first player benefits the most from not going multiple mines in the beginning. The first player sets the tone in terms of which half of the battlefield you are actually fighting on. so when the first player plays right then the enemy has to build for 2 lanes at the same time since they have to fight the lane that comes before them and the one that spawns with them. a good example for this is. a gold mine can be the difference between having 2 or 3 units. when the first player of the other team has the same unit you usually win. the small time you lose not having your first mine or second one will not impact the game as much as not holding middle or shifting the spawns. When you do result oriented thinking and actions you end up cheating your way through all your school life until the end of the SAT's and then you realized you missed the most important part that is being able to aquire skills and knowledge, having discipline and not taking the easy way. If you play right and you still lose that doesnt make it wrong. If you play wrong and you win that doesnt make it right.
rule number one for any melee hero, especially when grunts are involved: cloak of flames is a must have !!! also anything that gives damage and mana regen to your hero (for example: strength hero you will get strength items, agility hero, agility gear, magic caster, magic gear). these will provide damage boost for your hero... also if you have ghouls get cannibalize (it is worth it), and for grunts get the lower tear upgrades like passive regeneration, pillage and so on. AND FOR FUCK SAKE STOP BEING A COOKIE, last time i checked your name is not oreo !!!
Problem is cloak doesn't give you armor like in melee or at least like I think it does. Or e else it would def be a buy but I think it would lose value fast with units getting heals & more health idk 😅
21:19, Vimp sounded like he caught a toddler in the cookie jar... AGAIN .... OREOOOOOOO (lowkey Vimp acc )
Mf was being so silent about it funny af 🤣🤣
* 36:10 was the .. *
37:25 (Vimps taurens having been stolen seconds before)
Oreo: ooh they got some taurens too
Vimp: Yep
XD
also might want to backline those taurens when if they have banshees (if you want ghouls to be stolen instead) though they might die too quickly so a few taurens (this time you had siege engines so could have built those instead of taurens at the front and a shit ton of ghouls on the sides i think. inbetween but mostly ghouls upfront, then ranged army and then the rest of the taurens
the most op anti-air is the tank, they have multi-attacks against air and they can melt chims in seconds
Yea they are costly but definitely effective vs air you right !
I miss the rage guy 😂 from last game
i play this game a lot 1v1 against my cousin atm too. wish they remade the hellhalt tourney to be a direct strike tourney, ngl i'd rather play that :D
Ikr lol. Sucks the tourney is struggling.. playerbase is too low. Not too motivated to create a team with randos that I dont play often w/ go against strong opponents. Shuffle players tourney maybe might be more interesting like we've discussed hehe 😉
yea a shuffled teams tournament would be much more fun agreed :)
4 gold mine gg 🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍💖💖
Wp bro
29:41 was that a fart in the background?
Man this was a hard watch ngl.
Oreo excavating the entire planet with 4 mines and you guys coming to the wrong conclusions.
When you see banshees dont build aboms or any t3 melee except mountain giant(except if you have cheap spammable units you can put in front that dont die immediatly like mass ghoul/necro skellis.
Hawk does more damage to grunts but misha is misha.
It's like getting necro in hellhalt and saying na scarecrow steals units so it has to be better than a unit that just kills them fast.
mortar got buffed but is still trash when you see siege you either go siege engines and demolisher or just more regular units.
When he masses grunts vs your hero you try to either make your hero tanky and get units to pick them off or you go t3 and frostworms insta.
To be fair you got really unlucky not getting any dispell vs banshees twice in a row which is the equivalent of getting diagnosed with cancer when you had aids to begin with.
Dark ranger can silence dreadlord if you have Amulet. the silence goes for a long time
🤣🤣 Ya u right I need to learn proper responses to whatever opponents are building but sometimes they aren't too clear since your roll might be trash
Brother what happened you watching old vids you've been busy eh or not actively watching wc3 anymore?
@@VimpGaming ye trying to get off the WC3 crack for a bit makes me wanna play when i see it but my internet got so bad i dc everytime so i tried to distance myself from that content a bit so i dont get tempted but nowadays i dont even have WC3 installed lol.
But it's good to see that married life and your romanian druidism hydroponics dont prevent you from making videos
@@Zetraxes I think uninstalling wc3 is the play in general copium
Those plants taking over my life rn I'm fully emerged in the game. Hopefully it pays off 🤣
Sacrificing quality on YT vids but you know at least there is uploads. Raw footage what ppl like anyways right hehe
@@VimpGaming true as long as you dont take a month or 2 long break its all gucci.
And as a wise man once said.
"I got 30 and 6 in call of duty i told my brother that, and he plain and simply replied, does that matter. After that day i never played more than 10 mins of any video game in my life" -Tristan Tate
In the end we have to decide what matters in life if its friends family your work or a game there is actually no wrong answer as long as one can life with it
@@Zetraxes think it's better to matter what to convince yourself/brain that whatever endeavors you're after... its worth it. Or else you lack purpose & drive to continue.
Still figuring out "main goals" & why I do YT & whatever else. It's kind of progressive pursuit where I can never fully put my fingers on it. But small goals are always fun you know like consistent uploads, small improvements/tweaks, etc.
You made a huge mistake by not going for the Bear, also, this map is somewhat stupid adding useless "+" Ability, at least make it a bit stronger and give heroes more levels available to get it.
most expensive gold mine is 375 gold, 0,5 * 750seconds = 375. so takes 12,5 minutes to recoup the cost of the last gold mine.
150,225,300,375 costs right?
so..
first gold mine = 5 min
second gold mine = 7,5 min
third = 10 min
last = 12,5 min.
i'd think getting at least 2-3 is deffo worth. last one is probably not worth the pressure.. but yea gotta keep up the pressure. if you got clear lead early and stay on their side, last one might be worth. but 2-3 seems to be sweet spot.
from my games against cousin in 1v1 having 4 gold mines is good tho. but 3v3 is different game as objectives die faster.
Also.. when i play against him i oftentimes earn 3k more gold than he does. I'm wondering if the ''gold earned'' counts the cost of items.. im not sure it does, otherwise i dont know why golds would be so far apart
Yea well in one of the games oreo rushed 4 goldmines & in the end only had like 700 gold more total earned not sure how long the game went for exactly but eitherway the value seems low ye. Better off winning lane + getting gold from other objectives which benefits whole team 😅
Wonder how 1v1 dynamic goes vs ur cousin seems like might be hard to comeback once 1 player gets ahead hehe
as u say 1, 2 or 3 mines are the way to go, 4 seems really greedy.
but as for the gold discrepancy between u and oreo, i do think there is something impacting what it shows. cause as i wrote the gold has been very weird for us too. im just thinking it's items on heroes not being showed for the overall gold spent, so it can be hard to tell.
at least unless the gold written is bugged, you recoup the losses on 5, 7.5, 10 and 12.5 minutes from upgrade.
as for the dynamics in 1v1, a lot of units actually counter each other. so it can go back and forth for a while. but when we tried with ''random units'' like u guys did it usually ends faster, because you don't have all the counter units that are in a specific race, and might just have 3 different kind of ballista and all melee.
@@Inulnu yee that's why 3v3 might be more balanced w/ rng like hellhalt. Where like 1 trash roll can be helped by other dual but idk most of the times you dont end up fighting ur actual opponent since units are delayed a bit so it's random guess thats what makes it exciting the "dynamic" matchmaking.
Not sure if items count but I know I was full build & pretty sure oreo wasnt with his DR
Yea 4th mine isn't good, I'm just trolling lol. But 3rd gold mine is very good especially if u are the top player. Getting units early to rush as the guy on the top doesn't seem to matter too much from my experience.
@@oreo8118 Very wrong thinking.
The first player benefits the most from not going multiple mines in the beginning.
The first player sets the tone in terms of which half of the battlefield you are actually fighting on. so when the first player plays right then the enemy has to build for 2 lanes at the same time since they have to fight the lane that comes before them and the one that spawns with them.
a good example for this is.
a gold mine can be the difference between having 2 or 3 units. when the first player of the other team has the same unit you usually win. the small time you lose not having your first mine or second one will not impact the game as much as not holding middle or shifting the spawns.
When you do result oriented thinking and actions you end up cheating your way through all your school life until the end of the SAT's and then you realized you missed the most important part that is being able to aquire skills and knowledge, having discipline and not taking the easy way.
If you play right and you still lose that doesnt make it wrong.
If you play wrong and you win that doesnt make it right.
rule number one for any melee hero, especially when grunts are involved: cloak of flames is a must have !!! also anything that gives damage and mana regen to your hero (for example: strength hero you will get strength items, agility hero, agility gear, magic caster, magic gear).
these will provide damage boost for your hero... also if you have ghouls get cannibalize (it is worth it), and for grunts get the lower tear upgrades like passive regeneration, pillage and so on. AND FOR FUCK SAKE STOP BEING A COOKIE, last time i checked your name is not oreo !!!
Problem is cloak doesn't give you armor like in melee or at least like I think it does. Or e else it would def be a buy but I think it would lose value fast with units getting heals & more health idk 😅