This is the same incredible Yoshi player from Melee now putting in work with Greninja in Smash 4! Amsa! That was a great fight. Thanks for posting these Spooky.
HEADSH0TSCOTT u must mean greninja. he got the most nerfs out of any character. i think he doesnt play yoshi because it's too different from melee yoshi.
Amazing that aMSa can beat players like Ally in Smash 4 and also beat players like KirbyKaze and Lucky in Melee. Fuck all of those who say aMSa is overrated and not good, he got 5th in Melee and 9th in Smash 4!
aMSa is my spirit animal. Abadango is my next favorite, with his spectacular Pac Man tactics and his silly Wario moves, but I'll always have a special place in my heart for the frog ninja. aMSa has been my favorite Melee player for a while, and now he's my favorite Sm4sh player too!
Salvy Games I main Sheik and secondary Marth in Melee, Pit in Brawl, and Sheik and secondary Pit in Smash 4. I use my favorite characters in every game, and in Melee and S4 that happens to be a top tier. But my mains have nothing to do with why I'm defending top tiers and "tier whores". People just need to git gud and deal with it because it's the same in every fighting game and won't change
lol m2k well now more than ever smash is sweaty ass hell and when everyone is on sheik you pretty much have to bring out a top teir. i used metaknight but after the leo thing i dropped him cause i hate dittos and thats all i found online its not that im bad im decent but if i lose to a sheik i will pick sheik myself and most of the time ill win. i did love sheik but i dropped her too when everyone hopped on her. thats when i chose metaknight cause everyone said he was ass.
Salvy Games to each their own but I'm not gonna let the fact that my character is popular stop me from using my favorite and best character. I don't necessarily like dittos either but I don't hate them enough to change my main lol. And no offense but if your pocket Sheik shouldn't be better than your actual main regardless of viability.
My sheik is better than my main because she was my main. For a long time but like I said dittos annoy me idk why they bug me so much. But then it was meta knight and now it's pacman. Sheik is way too good in this game dude you can't deny that she is almost lagless and that's powerful like I said pac man can only do so much but sheik can do what she wants.
I like watching the lower tier (For lack of a better word) characters, you get to see really cool combos and fun mix ups vs the play to win (not saying there's a problem with this it is there job and I get that...) Diddy Kongs, Shieks and the like that are in every game. LONG LIVE MR. GAME AND WATCH
Ugh it was invented in the USA by a guy working at the YMCA in Springfield Massachusetts throwing peaches into a basket yes the man was Canadian but it was then refurbished to be the sport we know now all in the USA from the get go.
bar3footbandit So... His logic of "throwing peaches into a basket" can't be valid for the invention of the sport. It could not been what he meant, but that's how he implied it.
Nehruda Yeah, it allows for better Up throw to Up Air in case he needs them, but for the most part he uses forward throw to try and go for edge guards, keeping up throw fresh.
guimartgon Yeah I've been you using the same unused shield for stringing combos, however those are test controls as I want to test them out and see what one work for me.
guimartgon That's actually wrong, aMSa doesn't use his C stick for attacks at all. He use the original input which is Y/X and move the analog stick up then A. He doesn't use the C stick to attack at all, proof is that he can perform smash attacks without the use of the C stick since he sets it to attack so he could use advance tech with Greninja The real reason is so that he could jump and shadow sneak at the same time which he didn't use often, but that's just what it is. My controls are the same as aMSa's and I main Greninja competitively. Also, if you check his highlights, you can see that he edge shadow sneak which is an unexpected shadow sneak performed on the edge to off stage.
Man. With reactions like those Amsa doesn't even need to play greninja. He could have gone far if he chose a top tier character (shiek, Diddy, luigi, etc) the patience is monstrous. He didn't fall for ally's up smashes that entire first game.
its still too early to denote the top tiers IMO (lest remember how much tiers change), also consider that Evo is going custom tourney, i really would love to see his smash 4 yoshi, annyways, amsa is the unexpected smasher, he is a god
Andres Garza This. There's no such thing as top tiers right now. There are some characters widely considered to be near the top but not like the public isn't mostly uninformed. Even top players disagree a lot on top characters, though there are some (diddy, sheik, etc.) who are commonly agreed on as top. There's so many characters that are really unexplored; this game has 50 some characters... this game's got a looong way to go before things really start getting figured out. I would also argue there are many characters that have great options and tools but are simply harder and it will take a lot of time before someone makes a breakthrough performance or puts enough time into reaching that character's potential. Out of the entire cast, there's only a few that are anywhere close to being agreed on by high level players to being near the bottom of the roster. Even among those there are lots of disagreements.
+7Jamal8 You won't like Smash 4 much better in the long run. It's kinda fun now, since it's a new engine and all, but it's bound not to last, methinks.
smash 4 hovers between melee and brawl it has potential to have a solid competitive scene, look at evo and apex, both melee and smash 4 had huge succes
Alphahunter456 Smash 4 won't last as long though. Sakurai never said where between Melee and Brawl it would hover, and it's clear to see that it's much closer to Brawl than Melee.
Last hit does good knockback, while multiple hit gives the chance to DI out of it. Amsa doesn't want to let Ally back away. If Ally DIs that gives him a chance to regain stage control. Amsa just wanted him on the defensive, and constantly offstage.
HeroOfTheWinds Except this was before they made the A+B=Smash. My controls are the same way only for Greninja so that I could jump into a shadow sneak to edge guard while they can't see the shadow. I use the Smash attack Side A together. I set the C stick to tilt so that if my opponent miss a tech, I could pivot tilt to jab lock Since I don't play with tap jump on, it will be extremely difficult to edge guard shadow sneak because there will be no way to jump, so I made the d pad up and side d pad do jump with my left thumb.
+Vinson Games Sorry but i dont get why you can't jump on the edgeguard shadowsneak? I'm trying to main greninja and having the same controls as the best greninja might help.
Finally, someone picked the best looking stage instead of Smashville x100. I know the competitive use of that stage but Smashville songs are Anti-hype.
mario can ko without the up-smash at these percents mang.. losing a couple frames on a badish move is much more worth than running at 120% predictability.
Back of the head of upsmash has insane range and it pushes enemies away if they shield, too. Thing is, Amsa never shielded then, he just avoided every one. I'm a little mad at Ally for not edgeguarding a little harder but I think he was worried that Greninja's UpB could gimp him under the stage.
sng allah I understand that part but the "human" part is necessary to an extent. He was great and that's that. These fairy tale mentions about "God" and such is laughable. If he was or anyone to be exact then they wouldn't lose ever. So logic sealed here and yes, Smash-4 wont have that type of dominance like the rest of the games carried and if that happens it wont feel the same but "nerf-ed" pun intended.
I didn't say he was a god. My meaning of human is "back down to earth" Sry don't get into smash terms that much. I'm more of a sports person. So my meaning of "He's human again" is different.
Ok I swear these "Better nerf Greninja" memes are getting extremely old. Not only are they done to death, but they are completely irrelevant now because the last few patches have actually buffed Greninja. I agree they went too hard on him in the first few patches, but most of what they've done is patch bugs and glitches involving his Shadow Sneak. Otherwise he's only gotten improved recently. A more appropriate meme currently would be "better buff Ike/Kirby" who have received nonstop buffs at almost every patch. But even that would get old.
+Dr. S Funny how Greninja and Mario are both my mains in competitive Smash, but in all honesty, Mario is just fine, maybe needs a nerf. Greninja needs to have a guaranteed down throw follow up.
Greninja got so much Nerf... he was awesome :/ And Mario is sick but compared to Sheik or Zero Suit Samus and the other Top Chars his combos are not very cool like he used to be Dx
Amsa seems to like characters with long tongues...
***** Haha yeah he does. Whats up with that pic? Whats the story on that?
+Tango Down But in PM he plays Lucario
+Owain FireEmblem Later we'll find out that Lucario is actually just 3 Lickitung crammed into a fursuit who combine their tongues.
MasterWolz Actually that seems about right
+Jason Burge it's called Lenny face. It's used when a sexual reference happens
Best Greninja out without a DOUBT right now
I main greninja and i must say he is DEFINITELY the best greninja
aMSa my Greninja sensei ^_^
i main greninja and i can't wait to show im better in a streamed tournament someday
Noah Hopkins LOL
***** lots of love to you too brother
Love watching aMSa's greninja, so patient, but so stylish
freaking love this character
+OmegasWorkshop Amen
Fantastic set, wish we woulda saw stuff like that in Top 8 :/
This is the same incredible Yoshi player from Melee now putting in work with Greninja in Smash 4! Amsa! That was a great fight.
Thanks for posting these Spooky.
Lol a game where Yoshi is actually good and Amsa doesn't use them
I don't blame him. I think having completely different characters between games is a good idea, it just kinda helps you get in a different mindset.
Yoshi got nerfed to shit in 1.04 (though he's still high-tier). I quit Yosh after that, can't really blame aMSa either
HEADSH0TSCOTT u must mean greninja. he got the most nerfs out of any character. i think he doesnt play yoshi because it's too different from melee yoshi.
kawomon Yeah Grenin also got hit bad. Whats annoying is the nerfs make the characters play slower.
dude071297 They didn't nerf Yoshi
Amazing that aMSa can beat players like Ally in Smash 4 and also beat players like KirbyKaze and Lucky in Melee. Fuck all of those who say aMSa is overrated and not good, he got 5th in Melee and 9th in Smash 4!
Mew2King got 9th in Melee and 5th in Smash 4 XD
ClassicGaming7 Yeah, funny because the guys in this video also said he was a mini-Mew2King
More like underrated :/
***** loser buster butts
Lazarus Nazareth lol wtf
Patch 6.9.6
>Greninja removed.
EpicAO Greninja made into a mii costume
EpicAO What do you mean greninja removed?
Scott Chiste Nerfed so much, they just get rid of him.
Sure......
Scott Chiste In case you were wondering we haven't had a "patch 6.9.6" yet so... ya
aMSa is my spirit animal. Abadango is my next favorite, with his spectacular Pac Man tactics and his silly Wario moves, but I'll always have a special place in my heart for the frog ninja. aMSa has been my favorite Melee player for a while, and now he's my favorite Sm4sh player too!
I wish I could meet aMSa in real life someday, he seems to be so cool to hang around with
I love being friends with Japanese people!
If only the rest of the tournament could have been this based.
+lol m2k you use top tiers don't you haha.
Salvy Games I main Sheik and secondary Marth in Melee, Pit in Brawl, and Sheik and secondary Pit in Smash 4. I use my favorite characters in every game, and in Melee and S4 that happens to be a top tier. But my mains have nothing to do with why I'm defending top tiers and "tier whores". People just need to git gud and deal with it because it's the same in every fighting game and won't change
lol m2k well now more than ever smash is sweaty ass hell and when everyone is on sheik you pretty much have to bring out a top teir. i used metaknight but after the leo thing i dropped him cause i hate dittos and thats all i found online its not that im bad im decent but if i lose to a sheik i will pick sheik myself and most of the time ill win. i did love sheik but i dropped her too when everyone hopped on her. thats when i chose metaknight cause everyone said he was ass.
Salvy Games to each their own but I'm not gonna let the fact that my character is popular stop me from using my favorite and best character. I don't necessarily like dittos either but I don't hate them enough to change my main lol. And no offense but if your pocket Sheik shouldn't be better than your actual main regardless of viability.
My sheik is better than my main because she was my main. For a long time but like I said dittos annoy me idk why they bug me so much. But then it was meta knight and now it's pacman. Sheik is way too good in this game dude you can't deny that she is almost lagless and that's powerful like I said pac man can only do so much but sheik can do what she wants.
I like watching the lower tier (For lack of a better word) characters, you get to see really cool combos and fun mix ups vs the play to win (not saying there's a problem with this it is there job and I get that...) Diddy Kongs, Shieks and the like that are in every game.
LONG LIVE MR. GAME AND WATCH
I FOUND HIM I FOUND HIM I FOUND HIM! YES! I have been looking for a pro Greninja for so long and I FOUND HIM. aMSa baby, THE BEST GEKKOUGA AROUND
If you like Melee, you should check out his Yoshi.
Oh I have. It's glorious.
Hmm... What would happen if aMSa went up against iStudying? Man, what a rush!
He makes me want to play Greninja.
Yeah I know. Gekkouga is my one of my mains now.
Tom O Maolain *Greninja
***** Gekkouga*
Tom O Maolain *Greninja
*****
Gekkouga*
How the hell do you become that good at responding to attacks so quickly?
practice
"Best thing to come out of Canada for Basketball was Steve Nash and he don't even dunk!"
But… Basketball was INVENTED in Canada.
Ugh it was invented in the USA by a guy working at the YMCA in Springfield Massachusetts throwing peaches into a basket yes the man was Canadian but it was then refurbished to be the sport we know now all in the USA from the get go.
Noob Entertainment I doubt throwing stuff in a bucket was first done in the US.
TheRandomThings23 So?....
bar3footbandit So...
His logic of "throwing peaches into a basket" can't be valid for the invention of the sport. It could not been what he meant, but that's how he implied it.
I think he means that the guy who invented basketball got his inspiration from that.
Did aMSa just set his taunts into jump buttons? Well damn
Nehruda Yeah, it allows for better Up throw to Up Air in case he needs them, but for the most part he uses forward throw to try and go for edge guards, keeping up throw fresh.
guimartgon Yeah I thought there was more to that input but I guess its character specific...
It's just that you need to jump immediately in order to connect Uthrow to Uair with Greninja. I honestly set my unused shield button to jump with him.
guimartgon Yeah I've been you using the same unused shield for stringing combos, however those are test controls as I want to test them out and see what one work for me.
guimartgon That's actually wrong, aMSa doesn't use his C stick for attacks at all. He use the original input which is Y/X and move the analog stick up then A. He doesn't use the C stick to attack at all, proof is that he can perform smash attacks without the use of the C stick since he sets it to attack so he could use advance tech with Greninja
The real reason is so that he could jump and shadow sneak at the same time which he didn't use often, but that's just what it is. My controls are the same as aMSa's and I main Greninja competitively. Also, if you check his highlights, you can see that he edge shadow sneak which is an unexpected shadow sneak performed on the edge to off stage.
Shoutouts to all my loyal brothers who stuck with Greninja since the beginning of the 3ds days like myself
+smashvideos 7
YEH YEH!
GRENINJA, ZELDA, LUCINA BOYZ
WOOOO HIGH FIVE
Greninja Since release ;)
Does anyone know who brought him to losers
amSa is so amazing with greninja wow that d-tilt to f-air is so smooth
Were there any peaches on this tourney?
Man. With reactions like those Amsa doesn't even need to play greninja. He could have gone far if he chose a top tier character (shiek, Diddy, luigi, etc) the patience is monstrous. He didn't fall for ally's up smashes that entire first game.
He's playing a character he likes
its still too early to denote the top tiers IMO (lest remember how much tiers change), also consider that Evo is going custom tourney, i really would love to see his smash 4 yoshi, annyways, amsa is the unexpected smasher, he is a god
Andres Garza This. There's no such thing as top tiers right now. There are some characters widely considered to be near the top but not like the public isn't mostly uninformed. Even top players disagree a lot on top characters, though there are some (diddy, sheik, etc.) who are commonly agreed on as top.
There's so many characters that are really unexplored; this game has 50 some characters... this game's got a looong way to go before things really start getting figured out.
I would also argue there are many characters that have great options and tools but are simply harder and it will take a lot of time before someone makes a breakthrough performance or puts enough time into reaching that character's potential.
Out of the entire cast, there's only a few that are anywhere close to being agreed on by high level players to being near the bottom of the roster. Even among those there are lots of disagreements.
greninja is top tier even after the nerf I believe his top 10
This match was insane!
I like how aMSa starts out! Gets a feel of how his opponent plays in the beginning and dominates in the end.
Glad to see that aMSa is doing well in this game, especially with Greninja. I have no doubt about his viability seeing this level of play.
Same bro
is it worth to play super smash 4? when you play melee on a high level? brawl was fun but it was not fun on high level lol no wave dash and stuff
+7Jamal8 You won't like Smash 4 much better in the long run. It's kinda fun now, since it's a new engine and all, but it's bound not to last, methinks.
smash 4 hovers between melee and brawl
it has potential to have a solid competitive scene,
look at evo and apex, both melee and smash 4 had huge succes
Alphahunter456 Smash 4 won't last as long though. Sakurai never said where between Melee and Brawl it would hover, and it's clear to see that it's much closer to Brawl than Melee.
As a Greninja main, THAT WAS AWESOME!!!!!!
But seriously though, we need more Greninja players.
*More better Greninja players* Seriously, all the other Greninja's do is spam Neutral B and Side B. Makes me cringe everytime...
dialgaveal30 LOL In all honesty when I play as Greninja I never realized that I use Neutral B so many times to space and use the smashes to get KO's.
And people say Smash 4 isn't competitive...
Rip amsa's top 16 placements after this
Scrub here, can somebody tell me why he is sticking to the 1,2,3 jab instead of the multihit one?
Last hit does good knockback, while multiple hit gives the chance to DI out of it. Amsa doesn't want to let Ally back away. If Ally DIs that gives him a chance to regain stage control. Amsa just wanted him on the defensive, and constantly offstage.
Because by using the multi-hit jab (jab flurry) it gives ally the chance to escape and punish him, you can escape the multi hit jabs
Amsa making me happy to be a greninja mainer!
They get the judges pumped up before the games by showing them magic tricks
7:18 - Head to the dojo and break a board good!
why is the movement speed faster than usual?
Fast fall. If you dont have any upwards momentum, push the stick down and your character will go down faster
So... how does amsa use the d pad for jump? Lol
where did the yoshi go ;-;
AmSa's controls are... Interesting. How does he use his smash attack so quickly?
***** But he disabled smash attacks with the cstick :/
There is an alternate way to get a quick smash, use A+B and tilt/slam in desired direction.
HeroOfTheWinds Except this was before they made the A+B=Smash. My controls are the same way only for Greninja so that I could jump into a shadow sneak to edge guard while they can't see the shadow. I use the Smash attack Side A together. I set the C stick to tilt so that if my opponent miss a tech, I could pivot tilt to jab lock Since I don't play with tap jump on, it will be extremely difficult to edge guard shadow sneak because there will be no way to jump, so I made the d pad up and side d pad do jump with my left thumb.
HeroOfTheWinds That didn't exist then.
+Vinson Games Sorry but i dont get why you can't jump on the edgeguard shadowsneak? I'm trying to main greninja and having the same controls as the best greninja might help.
Finally, a decent Smash 4 match
*in Apex 2015
*with greninja
Like a boss!
+Silver The "Psychic" Hedgehog Who even says "Like a boss" anymore
Mogan Moe A lot of people that you and I don't know.
amsa's DI on mario's D throw is crazy
aMSa is one of my favorite players. He always plays as the low tiers and makes that character a high tier!
i would really love to train with one of these competitive players. Anybody really good and willing to help me out?
I thought omega stages weren't legal
"He is off to a ROCKIn' start tryin' to remove this stock ASAP"
Aaahhh, I see what you did there.
9:48 SHOUTOUT TO CONEY
aMSa's Greninja is fucking amazing.
They're using both my mains so this is a great study video for me
Dtilt to Fair is legit?
At certain % yes :)
Amsa is definitely one of my favorite players
Amsa is sick at everything
a greninja with a stock lead and rage is some scary stuff
Indeed
aMSa is such an awesome smasher!
Amsa makes me want to use Greninja along with my MK..
I used to say Canadia all the time!
Is this man the truth?
Finally, someone picked the best looking stage instead of Smashville x100. I know the competitive use of that stage but Smashville songs are Anti-hype.
Go kk rider begs to differ
The5jetmen it can beg all it wants
that's what happens when you pick Mario
mario is top 10
lmao yeah... right!
I got second place in a local tournament as Mario, where the person who beat me was...also Mario
Space Wizard must of been a casual game lol
you suck at trolling
Ally needs to get out of the habit of jumping everytime he gets hit
mario can ko without the up-smash at these percents mang..
losing a couple frames on a badish move is much more worth than running at 120% predictability.
Back of the head of upsmash has insane range and it pushes enemies away if they shield, too. Thing is, Amsa never shielded then, he just avoided every one. I'm a little mad at Ally for not edgeguarding a little harder but I think he was worried that Greninja's UpB could gimp him under the stage.
*hugs*
Ally should of used more fireballs to slow down greninja
Let's go aMSa!
I must learn from and surpass this Greninja.
You could *maybe* be a better Greninja than him, but overall he'll still be the better player.
hermesleao because he's asian
***** No.
Because he's Amsa.
:v
+theofficiallonewolf I've already surpass this Greninja. Well the one in this video. I didn't surpass aMSa yet, but I'm getting there.
lol ally is human when there's no broken MK and Snake. He's never going to dominate tournies ever again.
Lol human due to him winning okay. Exactly this game doesn't measurable critical standard foundation but the "free for all" tag.
***** just saying. He's finished. Never dominating again like brawl.
lol he got top 16 at an 800+ man tourney, that's still pretty damn good
sng allah
I understand that part but the "human" part is necessary to an extent. He was great and that's that. These fairy tale mentions about "God" and such is laughable. If he was or anyone to be exact then they wouldn't lose ever. So logic sealed here and yes, Smash-4 wont have that type of dominance like the rest of the games carried and if that happens it wont feel the same but "nerf-ed" pun intended.
I didn't say he was a god. My meaning of human is "back down to earth" Sry don't get into smash terms that much. I'm more of a sports person. So my meaning of "He's human again" is different.
Omg that Greninja so NOICE!!
Ok I swear these "Better nerf Greninja" memes are getting extremely old. Not only are they done to death, but they are completely irrelevant now because the last few patches have actually buffed Greninja. I agree they went too hard on him in the first few patches, but most of what they've done is patch bugs and glitches involving his Shadow Sneak. Otherwise he's only gotten improved recently. A more appropriate meme currently would be "better buff Ike/Kirby" who have received nonstop buffs at almost every patch. But even that would get old.
That greninja though. BOSS
Mario needs a buff, his combos would be sick!
Replace your sentence with greninja and I'll accept it.
Rock aka "Mega Man" Greninja and Mario.
+Dr. S Funny how Greninja and Mario are both my mains in competitive Smash, but in all honesty, Mario is just fine, maybe needs a nerf. Greninja needs to have a guaranteed down throw follow up.
Greninja got so much Nerf... he was awesome :/
And Mario is sick but compared to Sheik or Zero Suit Samus and the other Top Chars his combos are not very cool like he used to be Dx
before the nerf
+charmfire luxbolt lol no this was after the nerf
Arikado X was this 1.0.4
charmfire luxbolt yea the patch that nerfed greninja and sheik
Arikado X then why was diddys up air so strong
charmfire luxbolt cuz diddy was nerfed in patch 1.0.6 (or 1.0.5, i forgot)
Not really johning for him but ally wasn't at his top that day :p also he played that MU like straight ass lol i think a rematch would be mad hype
+hell-dew Well he was playing a Greninja. No one knows the MU since no one uses him so that is why he lost. He wasn't comfortable with it.
greninja new meta
aMSa is a total badass.
dat voice crack
ALLY IS MY ALLY. MARIO 4 LYFE
Amsa is awesome :O
i FAKIN LOVE aMSa & i believe a LOT of folks be Sleepin on him His Greninja is jus...................... GOT DAMN . !!!
Ally got so desperate that first match.
Amsa is sooooooooo goood.
I want to marry Amsa!
Lol such gamer geeks hahaha
Amsa in Italy is a garbage company