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- Saving Pull for Shu banner and Resources Calculation | Arknights
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Arknights is a free-to-play tower defense mobile game (TD GAME) developed by Chinese developers Studio Montagne and Hypergryph. then published in global by Yostar.
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this man can cook
Not just cook but also serve
he's not a cook anymore he is a chef now, he's been serving us for years
This many back-to-back limited banners is truly ruthless. Thank you for the good video!
Then after Shu it's Ela, then after Ela, Ash. It's gonna be super hard to save...
And ambiance synesthesia may have teased a babel or rhodes island op in the anniversary
and there will be 5th anniversary soon as well...
Bro, after that is Ascalon. They can't be doing this to us.
@@Mutualititve I know you know by now who will come out after Ascalon 😅
I'm planning to spark Texalter from the Virtuosa Banner and Ling from the Shu banner. F2p player, been saving pulls for a while, thanks to NFZen I think I will be able to manage it - barely. Wish me luck to pull both Texalter and Virtuosa with the free tickets we gonna get. Hope you, good doctors, will pull everyone you want too!
i also kinda want to spark ling, do tou think shes worth?
Good luck brother
Me too, but I want to spark Skadi-alter and Ling.
600 pulls in a couple of months?
...how? Good luck, praying you dont need to spark.
Did you get them? Its been a month
Hopes and prayers for all the F2P and low spenders. These upcoming banners are brutal with back-to-back limited banners.
I’m expecting to be disappointed. I managed to get 80 pulls for the Typhon banner and got off-banner Dorothy. Been saving ever since but I don’t think I’ll have enough for the spark.
3 back to back limited banners is so brutal. Honestly, I'm getting a little tired of how limiteds work in this game.
And then there's me who played 1 month ago and already going to miss out on the three limited banner massacre
And now theres a W alter thats ALSO limited 3-5 months after Shu/Zuo Le banner.
I dont mind the limited operators system, but there are definitely far too many, too close. And for FUCKS SAKE Hypergryph, stop giving alters to 5 and 6 stars...
@Nazuiko It's a pretty normal output, but this year in particular has 2 issues:
1) Pretty much every banner starting with Virtuosa onwards is good, which makes skipping characters not as straightforward, making it super hard to save.
2) New R6S event + Ash rerun, which basically adds 2 extra limited banners that would not be here on an average year.
Also, we did get Fang Alter, so there's that I suppose.
Thanks for info brother NFZen
thx as always for the video
With no pulls inbetween I usually get around 120 pulls per limited banner. With 120 pulls I have never failed to get the limited operator since global release.
This does include the 24 free pulls and yellow certs (always buy all tickets at once, but never go below 180 if a 6* you want gets into the shop).
If you are a bit lucky, you'll use less then 120 pulls and those can be saved up for other banners.
I have now already 250 pulls saved up (and 250 yellow certs). But this time it will be hard, since I want Degenbrecher and Ray. :D
Thank you! You make my life easier ^^
"what make her special is her chest" change my mind
I LOVE YOU BRO I NEEDED THIS SO MUCH GOD BLESS ❤❤❤
My man is on fire making these videos 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Tysm Zen! This really helps me decide who I'm gonna pull in the future
I WANT BOTH OF THEM SO BAD been saving since they've first been announced on cn
i just sparked texas alter lmfao and now i'm going to do the same with ling........gonna mega grind and maybe dolphin around the packs again in this banner
i would suggest saving for R6S for those who are with very low resources, because having a collab rerun is extremly rare, and a third rerun is very likely to not gonna happend(can, but better not risk, collab stuffs wont come back usually).
Instead limited operators from the game always come back, because they dont have to paid again their license or make a new contract.
I already decided for skip virtuosa and shu banner to get all R6 SIEGE operator since they announce the collab, cant wait for R6 banner on global.
Thanks for the calcs, things are looking a little less dire thanks to event pulls than I'd predicted. I really want to guarantee Ling, and given that I *joined* the game to pick up Chongyue last year, I really wouldn't mind making it an account goal to just snag all the Sui sibs eventually.
I have a plan to spark Ling, Thx you as always NFZen🙏
I have at least 40 pulls saved now, do you think I would be able to save 300 pulls? Haven't cleared any of the reruns earlier btw
@@firstsunrise8759 kinda hard, you should have some green & gold cert to backup your pull.
@@firstsunrise8759if you go all in on farming 1-7 and do the originite shard farm and save up until shu you might be able to get.... somewhere in the realm of 230-250 pulls depending on how much sanity you spend on other events and general luck. Combined with a full gold cert ticket buy (260 gold certs) thats around 270-290 pulls, ish. That's good enough to use Originite Prime to make up the difference.
@@firstsunrise8759 i want to spark ling as well, im saving from after eyja alter banner, now i have 160/300, it should be 190/300 but -30 on typhon banner, for f2p i think its kinda hard, maybe u need to buy monthly card to get more resources and dont waste any green gold cert to material, just use it for pull resources
Thank you for this, NFZen. You are a God-sent to those who can't spend too much time in the game.
While calculating my pulls, I realized I could pull on both the R6S. My biggest dilemma, however, is who to go for 300 pulls: Virtuosa Banner or Shu Banner. If I go for Virtuosa's banner, I could spark Nearl Alter or W (maybe even Rosmontis). If I go for Shu's banner, I could spark Chongyue or Nian. I can even pull on both if Virtuosa arrives early to save the rest for the next limited. AAAAHHHH~ curse you HG for releasing those limited banners back-to-back ToT
Invest in W for sure. She definitely won't hurt you.
If you intend on getting Shu and using her, you might want at least 3 other siblings in your roster so you have the option to get one of her talent buffs, which gives 1 sp to everyone on field every 4 seconds and everyone +12% atk when there's four Sui operators in the squad.
also another opportunity to get choungyue, when ghosted
Skipping all till W alter comes
Skippin' all of em for bnuuy
already have like 60 pulls before chap 13 hopefully i can get into like 200 pulls until shu banner
Virtuosa, Degen, Reed alter and Sui.... Yea, its gonna be rough...
I will have to skip Shu banner for R6S to save pulls 😮
really sorry Degen... I absolutely need Ray
I wish Nian had the rate boost too ;___;
Saving for ling spark so this helps, I wonder if mlynar will be added to shop before this banner
No, unfortunately. In CN they haven't add him in shop & not in a short time. He appears (again) in current CN J.O. banner, which means he probably gonna appear in shop around 1 year later
@@helmifaiz4504 well unfortunate because it means I won't have him anytime soon...but also great because it means I can safely use my hoarded 580 yellow certs for silverash, blaze and bagpipe, their utility still shines to this day so I wanna get them and be done with kernel rotation xD
@@sorashizen5130btw SilverAsh will appear in Custom-Kernel-Banner later on CC pyrolisis
And Blaze & Bagpipe was buy-able in Kernel banner around 4,5 Anniversary (in CN server obviously). But since I don't too much information about Kernel Banner & the pattern, I can be wrong
With Nian on the same pool sa W it would be a nightmare getting here from this point on. And dusk might follow up
We need her!!!!
Honestly, I'd really want to pull on this banner to get Shu for the insane heals she can dish out for her allies, and not to mention the niche skill and kit she can offer for the team. However, I already have Saria, not the best in healing but substantial enough to pass, I mean, she's a 6* Guardian Defender! The same archetype Shu is in and I don't hafta explain that much.
I'm more saving on the future collab R6S banner, and with Babel Event (The Darknights Memoir before the last Arc) releasing 6 months from now, as well as Logos and Theresa becoming playable as an Operator in the next chapter of Act 2, things are gonna get quite hectic with the schedule and I think we're gonna eat good this year my fellow Dokutahs! (along with Ambience Synesthesia 2024 concert). Ngl, I thought we're going to get Amiya Alter in the last chapter because I speculate that her pink eyes like Theresa made her become the Lord of Fiends, but nope I guess Amiya and Guardmiya is all we have. Unless HG makes another event setting in Kazdel after the Victoria Arc where she and Logos (by the time after the Victoria arc, where he's playable now), are handling a situation going on Kazdel.
But with all that said, I hope for the best for the Dokutahs who are gonna pull for the next few banners releasing these next months this year. Good luck y'all! Happy pulling ig
And also, thank you NFzen for the amazing video to inform us our daily orundum checks on which future banner we plan on pulling! ♦️♦️
Keep up the good work!
I NEED THE W ALTER RESOURCE CALCULATION RIGHT NOW IM CRYING
2800 or so (4.67 pulls) per week = 78,400 orundum bare minimum, guaranteed from daily missions + annihilations. Dont use OP on pulls thats silly.
Another 61,600 for a total of exactly 130,000 Orundum, or 216 pulls can be generated from 1-7 at maximum while still allowing for an estimated sufficient sanity for event clears as well, buying out the entire shops; you only need 200 to spark for W, so you should be guaranteed her if you dump everything you can into it.
I didnt include the Orundum/pulls from other sources, like the recruitment shop or the events themselves as its complicated and I dont personally have information there... So this is really speculation/estimation. Id suggest 16 pulls worth of Orundum, ignoring free tickets, to get enough pulls to spark on W by the 5th anniversary release. Not an AK expert, just a math nerd
I alre have pretty strong ops that can pass almost all existing and upcoming stages in the game. But i IS fan and Shu is pretty strong for roguelike stages so this is only single reason why i will pull for her
Bro, I gotta pray really hard when this banner drop
Do not tempt me i am saving for virtuosa
Looks whos grinding rocks again
"have 300 pulls is important"
f2p: ????
every limited banner ever.
As a new player, if I do one of the events from intermezzi and side story that are gonna rerun, will I get the same resources than a player who cleared the event for the first time?
Based on these estimates alongside my current stockpile, sparking Ling will leave just about 150 or so pulls left-over for Lucent Arrowhead and Originium Dust ...
I'm in tears. What an impossible dilemma.
Well it's not like you need 120 each. Maybe you'll get lucky and get them in 10 rolls each :)
@@monotechnic I spent 242 pulls on Muelsyse last year and did not get a copy of her. My luck is impeccably bad and I must prepare for it.
Thank you, though! Here's to hoping luck is on our side!
Positive note, you only need a max of 100 of your own pulls for Ela as we will get 2x 10 head hunting tickets as part of the event and you are forced to get her by pull 120. That leaves 120 of your own pulls for Ash.
@@kholdstare90 Yep, factored that in too! I made a napkin calculation a few days ago regarding the amount of pulls I needed to save, assuming that I had to spark on all three banners.
That's 276 for Shu (deducted the 24 free pulls), 100 for Ela (deducted the 20 free pulls), and 120 for Ash (no free pulls present). In other words, 496 pulls is the bare maximum you need to have on hand for the coming banners.
Current stockpile is at 185 pulls including permits and converted OP. Assuming that I do get the 177 pulls and ~250 OP in the meantime (including uncleared Episode/Intermezzi/Side Story stages), that would be about 437 pulls. This is not the optimistic prediction, since as stated there are additional pulls that NF didn't include (Paradox Sim, New Anni, Intel Certs, etc.). NF also didn't include how much orundum and OP we can gain during the LA and OD limited banners, which may JUST be enough to get me to 496 pulls.
... This is my calculus at the moment hehe. If things don't work out, I might prioritize the Siege characters instead and pull until Shu comes home OR I spend 200 pulls on her banner, whichever comes first.
Hope my musings helped someone else with their savings plan lmao
Edit: Forgot about yellow certificate permits and interim daily/weekly orundum between the Shu and Siege banners. 258 yellow certificates = 38 permits. Daily/weekly orundum from Shu to Ash event = ~30 to 40 permits. Sparks/guarantees for all three banners is definitely possible lmao
Thanks to @monotechnic and @Caufry-kh1mk for putting them to my attention!
@@blumstein3468 yeah that's fair. I rolled 100 on Mlynar and did not get him. But also have rolled lucky before. I understand the mentality of preparing for the worst though.
Maybe buy the monthly Gold cert HH tickets? If you have some.
waiting R6 info for get all Oprator
Man, i need the 300 pulls.. i want ling so bad 😭
Man, the spark system sucks so much, after 3 years playing I still can not spark Nian, first because R6, then because bad RNG in Nearl Light, then because MH collab and now for the R6 2.0 collab. Considering I only pull in limited banners this sucks even more.
and now f#cking Nian is not even in the rate up boost, only in the spark. I hate the system so much
I feel your pain because I skipped nian's banner twice, and now I'm suffering to get her. I have 300 pulls saved but now I'm afraid I won't get the rainbow six characters @@sebastiangomez1476
Agreed, wish it got lowered or even reworked entirely
The limited pool is getting oversaturated, they will need a rework like the kernel headhunting eventually
So skip everything except Degenbrecher and 4 limited banner got it, thanks
So as I understand now it is almost impossible to get Nian besides 300 pulls guarantee
man, i can only hope to get shu early (probably not) and to keep the rest for the r6s collab
So i have 445 pulls right now. Here i come degenbrecher, shu, zuo, ling, ela, ash( ash maybe) cant forget yellow cert shop pulls..have like 83certs ...so maybe after degen or at shu banner i will definetly have another 38 pulls or 2x 38 at shu after going 300...yeah i can do this ..+ maybe one monthly card..its stacked but i dont really wanna spend tho..so maybe not...good luck to everyone
Thanks nftzen😍 quick question between dusk/nian which one do you think is better?!
If you talking about combat performance, Dusk is better
For defender better have shu, so nian become unnecesary defender. Because there are horn, mudrock, saria and they better.
Already got Chongyue and the drunk blue lady, so this time I'm saving to get Shu and one more sibling for that sweet Sui synergy squad, preferably Dusk. The next months are going to be merciless.
Hmm....maybe i will skip shu and pull rainbow six collab event
Got 250 pulls atm but since I wanna get Virtuosa I'm afraid I might not be able to spark a sibling on Shoe's banner 😭.
For the R6S collab, will there be 2 separate banner (the new and rerun) or combine together. Since I've started playing AK like 2 years ago.
It will be two separate banners, one with Ela first and one with Ash after. Will need 120 pulls each banner to guarantee, 240 total 👍
Segun mis calculos contando actualmente con 48000 Orundum y con 8 pases mensuales comprados por adelantado, deberia conseguir llegar a los 300 pulls exactos al finalizar el banner de mommy Shu, gl Dokutahs.
Honestly I don't like r6s I'm not into fps hooman
I want my ancestors rice field and snek😊
New f2p player here trying to spark Chongyue. Cant really rely on the calculation since I cant really clear the stages in the event. I wish I could spark him soon 😢
at this point, I,ll hard skip everyone but shu, wis'adel and logos
sad that i'll skip rainbow6 but welp. such is the life of an f2p
I am not only need to calculate for Shu banner, but also for both R6 banner because I started playing after Op Originium Dust. I might become a dolphin if I am unclucky enough.
I can only hope i'll be clucky enough to get both and more. Been saving a lot but you know how rng is...
1 pull and dream
i want to spark nian... been saving forever, at 250 pulls now 😭😭😭
The real strategy game is how to save enough pulls for everyone 😂
I will save 300 pull for alcoholic dragon
I need suzuran
GIVE ME STRENGTH, FOR LING AND SHU
"Wake tf up, Doctor. We have a wallet to burn. "
so it's really like what happend on texas banner gonna be whale again and spend 150$ for the extra 120 pulls, hope chongyue or ling comes without crossing the 300 pull
We are so dead boys. 5 limited, 2 are collab limited, aka nigh true limited, Degenbrecher and Ray in the span of 6 months. Like bro, F2P players can't live like this.
im saving for Ash
As a F2P player, I am more interested in whether I can be distracted by other banners and how much can I spend on them, taking into account the fact that I need to save 240 pools for R6?
Only 200, actually, since crossover events give you 20 free pulls. that means only 100 for each banner to reach pity.
@@torinriley7569r6 rerun banner wont give free pulls tho so i'd be 220
@@torinriley7569 only for Ela, Ash rerun banner doesn't give you free 20 pulls
@@torinriley7569 ash rerun doesn't have 20 rolls free , so you need 220 rolls
@@torinriley7569 collab rerun doesn't give 20 free pulls so its 220
I need some advice, i had have eyja alter as my main medic, as we know the next limited is virtuosa and now i had save 300 pull
Nah my question , is it worth it to spark all my pull on virtuosa banner and buy skalter, even though I already have eyja alter or i just save it for next limited banner like ray or shu?
Skalter is not a medic although she can heal - she is used for difficult stages where her S2 boost surrounding operators with higher stats. I am saving for Skalter as well but I would prioritize upcoming operators like Degen/Ray/Shu etc. Conclusion: prioritize newer operators because Skalter no longer has any rate up and only sparking gives you 100% chance. If you miss Shu because you want to spark Skalter, it is going to be another pain to go spark for Shu later...
Skalters buffs are broken, i was lucky enough to get her and Spalter when trying to get Mumu and always take her everywhere, she can make weak ops, not so weak anymore. I didnt get Mumu however :/
I may or may not care about Shu, as I will pull for Degenbrecher as best as I can first before I consider rolling for Shu
This vid is a godsend. Now I can skip Shu banner in peace, knowing Ling will still have 5 times rate up for another year. 😂👌
is it possible u make a video about how many pulls we can save until Wisadel and Theresa banner?
Yes
Theresa is a free 6 star operator, you can get her by clearing 14-21 stage.
I want to get 3 sui sisters for shu skill
I'm in dilemma.. I want Degen, Shu and Zuo Le but R6S banners are too close. The only R6S interest me just Ela and base skills. Also there's a chance 5th Anniversary will have interesting operators.
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Sooo can you do the calculation for the R6 collab? I missed it last time so I am hoping to get every operator this time. Already have 80 pulls saved just that there are so many good ops in between so I am not sure how much I should save for the full R6 package
He said that the next video will be calculation for the collab
The only limited Ops between now and R6S#2 are Virtuosa and Shu, and only Shu takes a whole year to return. Virtuosa will return 6 months after her debut. They're also both not essential meta units.
So I'd say that, with you missing BOTH R6S Ops, not going full send for them would be an undeniable mistake.
Degenbrecher or Ela?
I may not have enough for 300 but pls RNGesus gib me Shuuuu. Succ my resources dry idc just gimme that ricefield to plant on
i am skipping all of these, thank you!!
Thanks for the video! Really helpful.
My current plan is to pull 1000/10 bnuuy Ray and then go for Shu and potentially spark my boi Chongyue who I had to skip to guarantee waifu Mumu last year (and turned out to be needed, my pulls...), considering I have like 200 pulls rn the situation looks pretty good, but... yeah, we will see depending on what stuff gets announced, really excited for the 5th anniversary banner in special.
Saving for ela
She awesome sniper
I think skip for r6 collab ops and i planning to get degen
For me problem Shu baner it's next R6 two baners.
r6 banners kinda sucks, mommy Shu plap plap plap man
Estou bem indeciso no que fazer. Evento do R6 me agrada muito. Creio que vou guardar os pulls pra ele. Por agora vou dar uns 50 pulls no banner da Viviana e uns 50 na Degenbrecher........eu acho não sei estou bem indeciso😂😂😂
man... i was willing to get a full r6 oprtr by filling my orundum (cz i'm f4p) but this limited oprtr bruh....
I'm F2P, should I pull for Shu or save it for R6S? I don't have any Sui Siblings yet
R6S
Sui siblings return once a year and you'll have a full year to save 300 pulls to spark the one you missed from the year before.
R6S took 3 years to get another rerun. B4 that, it was general consensus that collabs never return, as this R6S#2 is the first and only time a collab has ever come back.
If you're a collector, I'll go all in for R6S (x2 remember, there are 2 banners, Ash and Ela) and never look back. 240 pulls is the maximum you'll need to guarantee both of them.
Ehh I’m skipping this for r6. Sorry.
hey, decide already. are you going to save for Virtuosa or save for Shu? Next week what? Save for Ela? xDDDDD
But i wanna spark texalter 😢
Not on this banner.
@@cheesegan4070 No but she will be on Virtuosa banner
I want Virtuosa and Shu, Im gonna skip Ela and company, not interested in R6 operators
Hello Nufaz!
so basically, if I start skipping all the way until shu banner, I have enough to go all the way to 300 pull... I am aiming to collect all the sibling.... only missing nian as the sibling
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO PRECISELY EXPLAINS HOW THIS RATE UP STUFF WORKK 😭💕
look at those ppl who want to skip everything...
they think this is genshin a super petty games
I mean it can be, just not a super one
Degen when😢
Probably mid/late June
@@bartekrudy1161 Still far enough, we need around 160 pulls to guarantee standard banner right? Maybe i could spend some for next limited banner then
@@SimbahPardimin To guarantee standard solo rate up u need between 151-249 pulls. In solo banners if you don't get rate up in 150 pulls next 6* u get will be the rate up one. It doesn't guarantee u 6* on the next pull or multi just that when u will pull a 6* it will be rate up one.
@@bartekrudy1161 but i've see some people gacha Jessica banner when they're reached 150 then the next six star is would be Jessica, 300 pulls is supposed to spark limited banner isn't it?
Well thats what i said. If u don't get rate up character in 150 next 6* will be rate up. You still need to pull the 6* right? Think of it like this example: Lets say u got some random off banner 6* at 137 pull, then u did 2 multis and are now at 157. You know next 6* will be guaranteed rate up one but can u guess how many pulls u will do until u get one? 10?,20?,30?
Let's be honest, Arknights wil be "dead" if HG keeps making this fcking shit schedule
? for a whale, more options to spend, for a F2P more free pulls.
who is losing out?
@@bloodred255 Wait, wait, wait, are you assuming people are pulling just for pullings sake, and not to get characters??? That's the only way I can interpret this and it's baffling and psychoanalyzable. If the point is just the pulls, why not just use one of those pulling simulators?
F2p are losing out hard if the point of pulling is to get characters you like lmao, this wall of limited and meta ops is taking away pulls that could have gone elsewhere if you want a _chance_ at getting them. Realisitcally, you either have a lot saved up, or your screwed. I want both Shu and the r6 ops, and that means I have to skip out on a lot of other characters I want, and even if I scounge up every possible pull, there's a solid chance I'll still wind up missing out on one or more limited characters, and that sucks.
@@Ezekiel_Allium Welcome to gacha games, u will get used to it, and if not go play normal games without microtransactions if u are not patient and/or can't stand FOMO.
@@bartekrudy1161 you would have a point if the schedule was always like this. But it's not. Normally it's totally feasible to be able to save up for limited characters and still have some pulls on the side for whatever other character catches your eye.
@@Ezekiel_Allium Well the schedule looks pretty normal excluding collab.
Ill do anything to get Shu please i need dragon mommy 😭😭😭😳🫶🏻