Making a Spiderverse-Inspired Shader in Arnold | Greyscalegorilla
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- Learn how to create an #Arnold shader in #cinema4d inspired by Spider-Man: Into the Spider-verse.
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In this tutorial, you will learn about the techniques the animators used to create the film, and then follow along as we attempt to recreate this look in C4D with Arnold.
You'll see how to create a lambert utility to get a value of light to dark. Then you'll use that to create highlights, mid-tones, and shadows with their own half-tone patterns.
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I'm so happy this video is available again on the channel.
amazing stuff!!! Love it
OMG I haven't even watched this yet but this is a DOPE topic! I was working on this too!
Thank you for this great tutorial
This is absolutely next level Arnold shading, man, what a great tut.
Thanks 👍👍
Impressive! Most impressive!!
wow! that looks great!
Great one Chad! Thank you!
Loved your new layout!
Thanks mes!
Chad is the man! Thank you for sharing!!! This is so cool!
thanks a lot for an awesome tutorial!
Chad into the Arnoldverse!
Hahah yep!
I am new to C4D, well sort of new, and had no idea I could do I shading network like this. I am used to Maya. This is an amazing workflow. Thanks for sharing.
Yeah! More Arnold!!!
YEAH! it's really really cool, thanks chad, this tut is really helpful.
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
That amazing
This is an amazing introduction, thank you so much
You're very welcome!
Thank you! I don't use Cinema 4D but this video gave me a guide on how to do it in Maya
You...are...a...genius!!! Love it!
Thanks! 👍
You can do it in Vray, Use: Fall-off map,Fall-off-type = Shadow/light, feed that into a Vray Blend material for high/mid/shadow tones.
Ive been looking for this
Must watch this later!
I don't use Arnold. But man, this is awesome!
Hope we can get some Octane tuts on the same matter :)
Chad! Mind Blown!!! I too watched SpiderVerse and thought "how did they make those shaders" but didn't even have the slightest clue where to begin. Thank you for sharing. Got a feeling you gonna see this popping up in a lot of projects now. Let's just hope people have the sense to adapt the technique and not just use it verbatim.
Thanks for the kind words!
This looks fantastic - could this be pushed a little further with some sketch and toon addition?
Really great explained! I learned a lot of this and I love the look of the movie. I'm working in Maya so I'll attempt to make it happen there!
Have you managed to make it work in Maya? :) I got a bit stuck myself ahah
@@Ohmydumbledear Same :(
@@venny9792 I am in the process of figuring it out! I played around for days and I think I've found a good base that definitely needs tweaking/cleaning up but once I'm done with my renders this weekend I think I'll make a post somewhere to show my workaround :) (this was hard for a beginner though ahah i'm still a little lost)
Awesome! Going to try and replicate this shader in Maya (Arnold).
Did it work?
An amazing Lookdev tutorial, I love it ! :D
And this is totally repeatable in other software (maya in my case) if we have Arnold :)
Have you managed to do it in Maya? I admit I am struggling because I don't know much about shading, and the nodes have got me quite confused.. I would be super interested to see your node tree!
Nevermind I saw your other comments below, thank you for the tips, I will try it out on my own :)
@@Ohmydumbledear Cool, happy to help :)
Thank you so much:')
I don't know how to use c4d but Maya. And this is still very useful for me :)
I've seen some Maya/Arnold tutorials and the Arnold interface looked VERY different from the way it does in C4D. Did you struggle with that?
Love your tutorial on spider-verse
That halftone pattern only effect highlight and shadow not mid tone
I am gonna try this method in Corona.
I was able to recreate the halftone pattern in Physical using the Lumas effect in the luminance channel! It even works with GI!
i.imgur.com/5EUicMC.png yeah boiiii
OMG this tutorial !!
Wait till you see the next one. Creating a 4-Color CMYK shader!
Cool!
Needs more Chromatic aberration, but a really great shader!
I might actually do this for my College project!
Will this work in Maya as well using the Arnold Render?
omg an arnold tutorial!
amazing
Thanks!
the other thing that blew me away (actually took me a while to get used to) was instead of normal depth of field blur they color shifted the background, usually into red/blue, so it looked like old skool 3d comics - the further things were away from the focal point the more they were shifted. Viewing with old skool red/blue glasses would be a trip
Yah that was such a cool/creative solve for DOF
hell yea!
Chad be losing so Weight looking good mate! Also thank you for the tutorial, Absolute mad lad!
Thanks 👍
Learnt a lot. Thanks. But what light setup are you using for the scene?
Great work and tutorial! One thing though, correct me if I'm wrong, but recently I tried to learn more about shaders, materials and textures, and from what I understood what you did is not a shader, but a material. A shader is the program that tells the render engine how to render an object and different shaders can control different aspects, such as Metalness, Transmission, Subsurface (eg. aiStandardSurface, aiAmbientOcclusion, aiCurvature - those are shaders and each do a different thing). But when you combine more shaders and/or add textures you create a material, is this right?
This was cool 😊 will give it another go in Redshift, i don’t know how to replicate that uv transform node.. but i will 😎
keep us posted!
We can always cheat and achieve this look in comp using some AOVs.. and that will be possible using almost any renderer! That will be the easy way.. i guess..
@@micheloo that's cheating! JK, it's all cheating if you think about it! :)
Hi Chad, great stuff! Quick question, is there anything like the utility-lambert node in Redshift? I´ve been searching like a mad man, but to no success :(
Keyboard Shortcut: To give the currently active node a connection to the Arnold Beauty input - Option/Alt - W - 1, but you have to let go of the Option/Alt key before typing 1 on your keypad otherwise it won't work. This has been driving me crazy for a week. (Yes, I'm that much of a noob)
Would like to see this being used in a project...
May I throw the Arnold OSL shader node in the mix? It lets you program a neat halftone pattern with less nodes
Could you do a tutorial for the new ai optix denoiser in Arnold for the future?
I'd actually be quite interested in the lighting rig used here. The shader is extremely light dependant ( aren't they all ! ) but we only have a very quick glimpse at how the lights are set up here. Unless I missed a few seconds somewhere else... ;)
Please do in redshift!
Nice shader!
haha, just realised that you cant repeat this shader in 3dsmax since ramp rgd in max do not have position input!Any ideas how to make it in max way?
Can you please recreate this in Redshift? 🙏
Great work man! Is it possible to do something similar in Unity?
Arnold for 3ds Max doesn't seem to allow node input for the Ramp RGB point positions. If you or anyone else could offer an alternative solution, that'd be great.
I'm working on a project in Maya and it's going to have a character in it with texture maps for things such as skin tone, clothing, and such. I'm not sure if I saw it in the video but will I be able to overlay this shader on top of the textures I make on my own?
what is the shortcut to directly look at the beauty on a mac???!
Please do a Octane version of these :)
You can only do this in Arnold, there aren't the necessary tools in Octane or Redshift.
@@Greyscalegorilla damn.... that's too bad
@@Greyscalegorilla What about V-ray ?
oh(( learned Octane, thought abt learning Redshift, but not thinking abt Arnold :D pls, make a video abt differences (with specific examples) in these renders
You could also do it in post, if you'd like.
Just make a custom render pass or AOV with a neutral shader override, and make sure that you also have a material ID cryptomatte or something similar, a ID pass.
Then you could do this in post using Fusion 9 (it free!).
Also, the Redshift devs are trying to make their render engine easier to understand in the future, so with a bit of patience, you might be able to jump into it in version 3.
I have been working with RS for over 2 years now, and it has been great, right now you can do more with it than in Octane even!
Great tutorial, Chad! Quick question... Why did you use the "plus" blending mode for the highlight instead of screen? Doesn't that output your whites above 1?
Just personal pref. It could have easily been screen. Thanks for watching!
Well done... my only concern is that with the camera mapping, if the mesh moves the texture will not follow. that was the thing that most impressed me with the film was that the halftone seemed baked onto the mesh.but moved with the light.
I noticed that some of the halftones in the film were stationary and some moved slightly with the mesh. I haven't tackled that aspect yet.
still spot on.@@cgpov
Hello, i don't get to understand how to start the configuration of the standard surface to look like that... What are the lights and the sky set up? and i don't see a floor in the scene, how is the background set up in the Arnold Render viewport to look in that blue-grayish color? Please i hope you can help me with that. I'm counting on you. Thank you
By the way, i'm totally new in this shader program. And i watched another gsg tutorial for arnold beginners ... But i can't get my standard surface to look like in this tutorial :C And i really wanna know
This is so awesome! Any idea if this is doable in Maya? I have been trying to give it a shot this morning but I am getting lost in the inputs and outputs of the nodes, I never know which ones to select, seeing as in C4D it seems to just be "output - main - input", but in Maya there are a lot of options, so it gets confusing (I am also super new at shading, that doesn't help)
Isn't the Maya Arnold the same as C4D arnold? I mean it's quite similiar in approach. Maybe Arvid Schneider's tutorials can help you understand Maya's Arnold nodes? This tutorial can definitely translate to Maya.
@@BulletWhizza I am pretty sure it is the same, but the shading editor is a bit different - like you say it should translate no problem so that's exciting, it's more a matter of me not being very well-informed yet ahah! I will definitely check his tutorials out, thank you so much for the tip! :)
I am currently on an old version r16 C4D will this tutorial still work?
Can we have the project file for this?
Chad, mind making a water puddles tutorial with Arnold. I've tried duplicating the same methods from MAYATA tutorials to C4DTOA, but can't quite get it right
Mükemmel!!!
Hello, I just recently switched to using Arnold. I have been trying to work through it but my real time feedback in the IPR window is not complete. I have been having feedback on lights but not object changes. When I click the play button, I get the material update, which is confusing because my IPR isn't giving me any material update. How do I get past this ?
Is there a download for this shader
Is the ShaderBall scene available on the GSG site? It's used quite a bit in the RedShift training and it wasn't included from what I saw.
Only the material is provided. Thnx for watchin!
Speaking about the RedShift training, shouldn't scene files should be provided for what you are working on. Makes it hard to follow along and get similar results when my scenes and scaling don't match up with the training.
@@jimhall1131 thanks for the feedback, we'll keep that in mind going forward
@@Greyscalegorilla What kind of responses are these. Feels like I'm being spoken to by a bot. Moving forward? How about fixing what should of been there in the first place. The training comes at a premium price, scene files should be included. Watching the training without them is rather frustrating.
On the GSG store "Guide to Redshift" has a list of the features. One of them is Scene files and assets included. This may be true for the projects (haven't gotten there yet), but not so for the training section.
Please make for octane 🙏🙏🙏
looks cool. not the best decision to use camera projection though. it would not be producton friendly. you can map it in camera or screen space. use space transform node
whats the equivalent of the float ramp_rgba node in Maya? Great tutorial btw!
I would think it would be the same. Thanks for watching BTW
@@cgpov Whats the input? As there is no 'input' as such in the maya ramp nodes. Would it be UV coordinates?
I appear to be missing the shaders. I'm gonna reinstall arnold. Thanks :)
It does appear that both the float_ramp shader and ramp_rgb shader aren't currently supported in Mtoa, ie. they don't exist in maya. I haven't yet been able to find a work around.
can you make that shader in standar pls
EMVF I don’t think it’s possible currently. At least until standard supports some sort of raycasting node.
@@JohnCooganPlus maybe in r20
@@JohnCooganPlus maybe he can make the same shader in stander with other way i dont know maybe with a sketch and toon shader but i dont know
@@JohnCooganPlus Definitely possible in R20, just a quick test, i.ibb.co/Dw0STNF/tonemap.jpg
@@Gr4ph0s My work colleague and I just spent half and hour trying to recreate your example :) Wasn't easy, but I think we learned a lot. Thanks for showing that it's possible.
how can i turn it into octane ?
Can be used in Maya with arnold?
could this at all be possible with a combination of C4D's inbuilt shaders?
Yes! This can be done in any shader editor!
Any chance you could share the material? because it's really hard to learn without having the material in c4d and doing some tests if you could share the scene that would help a lot learning the shading 😉
This shader will be available on the GSG Connect Slack in the #freebies channel / You'll have to be a GSG Connect member to download
@@Greyscalegorilla Okay, can you tell me the Slack Link?
Can you do a Maya version please!
Not expecting you to be the one to answer, but any of my more experienced Blendheads know how transferable this is to Blender's cycles?
www.reddit.com/r/blender/comments/anghvq/spiderverse_procedural_shader_recipe/
the graphic elements aren't aligned to the camera, but I'd imagine you could use some kind of camera vector node to fix that.
@@YTRingoster Delish, thanks
Yeah! More Spider-Verse!!! (and more Chad as well :---) )
Such a great film!
Can anyone tell me which laptop is the best for aftereffects, cinema4d & maya
Please help!!
Yeah, a desktop not a laptop
how would one create a similar shader but with redshift?
Not entirely sure, but maybe once they release OSL support?
Chad replied above. Redshift does not have the necessary tools for this. yet.
Whats Arnold GUP release date?
Nothing official, but hopefully soon!
would you do this in blender please?
Would you be able to show us how to do this in maya? Pleasee!
I tried by myself on MtoA (Arnold for Maya), and it's exactly the same way with the same nodes. No difference. I just used a remap hsv instead of the first ramp node after the aiUtility...
@@RavenWhiteThibaultV do you know if it's the same for blender?
@@grimwingprime There isn't Arnold for Blender so you can't use the same nodes that in the tutorial. But what is important is the logic behind the process. I don't know Blender but I'm sure there are some nodes that can make the same things in Blender. Up to you to find them :)
Raven White ok thanks
@@RavenWhiteThibaultV How exactly does it work using the remap hsv? Are you able to provide a screenshot of your Hypershade/Attribute Editor?
Why not just make AOV's for direct lighting/shadows/etc, and do it in post with much more control and versatility?
To me its just bump map/normal map of the pattern ( or even rough map depends on the wanted behavior ) and interesting combination of reflectivity/roughness w/ some color falloff's something inbetween plastic and fabric w/ some masks for other elements.
Looks fairly easy to do. Try to make photorealistic vinyl record material, that thing is struggle, 3 days and no results imgur.com/a/7LGknjn :D
if only there was a blender version ;; _ ;;
7:49 was way better imo (not spiderverse, but better)
Can I do this in Maya ?
Yep a few people have had success with this technique in Maya
Have you seen shading in "The Witness" episode of "Love, Death and Robots" by Bastein Grivet who also worked on Spider-man : Spiderverse ?
www.imdb.com/title/tt9788486/?ref_=ttfc_fc_tt
i spent the whole movie wondering about the same thing...
Please show us a Maya version!
Great Tut! Here's a great Blender vid that can be used to get a similar look. th-cam.com/video/7afTgY5V7pw/w-d-xo.html
can't set ramp interpolation of all knots to "Step". I've selected "none", but it doesn't work. How is this called in version 5.0.1.5? Thank you!
Are you in R20?
@@cgpovstill using r19
2 minute job with OSL render.otoy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=355496#p355496
I thought that he was gonna do it in maya
Didn’t get stuck is just when I render the scene don’t look like your
Element 3D can provide better lighting! lol
Lower your cameras shutter Chad :)
Yah I need to find the right setting. Having hue lights flicker issues.
@@cgpov The lighting is looking awsome actually. The skin color is perfect too. If you're using Rgb Led strips, problem may occur because of the driver. Check this video out. I hope it's going to be helpful. /watch?v=ixfHxOnGJPITh
Lol ShaderVerse xD
Chad-er-Verse XD
The sound in that intro was really off sync