Yamaha's Highly Regarded P125 vs P515
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The P125 is well known for being a great beginner instrument, as well as being an affordable professional-level instrument. The P515 is well known for being a well-rounded digital piano with an impressive amount of positive qualities, such as better sounds, bigger speakers, a better action, and a higher build quality. Of course this comes at a higher price, so what are the differences between the two? - เพลง
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The P 515 has Binaural sampling for the CFX Grand when you plug in the headphones.
These are recordings done from the position of the player head.
When you connect an open back headphones, it sounds like you don't wear headphones at all, but the sounds are comming from the piano itself.
This is a magical feature
Good to know!!! I’ll expect that when my 515 comes! I currently have. Roland FP30 and I’ve wanted a Yamaha for a long time so I upgraded big time by getting the 515
Totally true, the first time tha you use the binaural sound you beliebe tha you are in front a real intrument and you forget switch on the headphones!, is wonderfull and is no only wonder of the amazing of 515, for me the most interesting characteristics is the real inreaction between keys like a real piano when you can apreciate the addition and subtraction of the two waves creating complex an real interaction like a real piano. For me is very real effect that is no so spread on other instruments.
Do you know if the 515 can drive high impedance headphones? I have HD800s I want to play with them but idk if the piano could drive them.
As Schwarzenegger says "I'll be Bach." Great playing!
Interesting fact for some people. He never put any accent into that line. It was just an American-esque "back", despite people remembering it as if he did.
Same for the *Field of Dreams* .. The voice never says "If you build it, _they_ will come". It's always been "he". Or like, it was always Loony _Tunes_ and never Loony _Toons_ .
@@moik5185 Please don't bother us with all the Mandela changes while we are trying to hide in the realm of "Musical-Instrument-Appreciation". LOL! Btw, are you familiar with Brian Staveley?
I bought a P125B to facilitate a return to piano playing (at my very amateur level) and to refresh my waning skills. For this purpose it suits me very well!
I am always gratified to learn that I didn't miss out too much by not springing for the P515. Thorough analyses like yours have helped validate my choice. I almost went for a Roland, and probably would have been OK with it, but definitely have no regrets. Your video has reinforced my satisfaction and for that I am grateful. Buyers remorse can be insidious!
For all who are interested in these lower tier Yamaha keyboards I would encourage getting an upgraded sustain pedal, as the one that is packaged with the unit is pretty cheap and not usable on most carpeted floors.
Yup, great advice - it's called the FC3A.
I have a P-255 I bought about 10 years ago. Paid $1,299.00. Price never went down. I love Yamaha.
Yamaha's hold their value so well!
Inflation 😂
I recently got the 515 after watching your videos and it’s incredible. Thanks so much for the reviews!
Oh I'm so happy for you! Yeah, the P515 is pretty awesome and I'm glad it's working out for you.
12:00 - that sample is really amazing! That's a good example of why more expensive pianos like P-515 are worth every penny of their price.
On the P-515:
If you hold the function button and hit the "others" bank, it opens up a menu with 480 gx voices.
I just thought I would let you know since you said there weren't many voices in them.
Great comparison video as always. I had fun jamming along on my own P-515!
Great to know! Thanks
Oh wow thanks for the tip. I'm getting this piano probably next week.
Yup, its very important especially if you use the sequencer.
The hidden XG voices are your only option to get a drum kit.
At this point I've watched so many of these videos that I know exactly what he's gonna play for each voice, also, please release a tutorial or sheet music for the test piece.
I would also like the sheet music for your recurring test piece I think it's a great sortof a warmup piece, abit like Bach's prelude in Cm but of course more advanced. I'd like to add that to my little assembly. And I'd like to try it on my newly arrived Kawai CA-99, shipment went crazy fast. The piano is a beast in terms of weight, almost like a regular upright. It is Not mobile. Please do not consider this instrument if you wish to move it often. ;-)
Lol same here
Excellent, I'm so glad you played them at the same time, on the same song. This way you can really hear the sound difference. Just keep that way for future comparison!
Please note that P-125 has an USB Audio Interface which allows: to use yamaha speakers as computer/smartphone output speakers so you can have background music and play on yamaha at the same time (their volume can be adjusted with use of Yamaha smart piano app); the same way when you use Yamaha P-125 as MIDI controller, you can redirect audio from computer back to Yamaha P-125 speakers. For example, I use Pianoteq program (Linux/Windows) where I have more realistic piano sound and again, I can have it played on Yamaha P-125 speakers. :-D
Does it support ASIO so we cannot see noticeable sound lags? Cause On PSR-EW400 it was impossible to switch off synth sound, only to lower it's volume, and sound from VSTi was with lags.
One of the best info that i've read. If you buy that, you can access to so many realistics piano sounds. Thank you.
What, Pianoteq has a Linux version? I didn't even think to check. This is great news to me!
Hello from Latinoamerica, Can you help me, I want to use my speaker of Yamaha P-125 as my computer speakers, but I don't know how to do it, sorry for my bad english, hope some one can help me!!!
Thanks for the video! I wanted to hear about the action (keys), so if somebody else is interested, it starts on 17:20
Thank you!
I have learned so much about pianos from you. Thank you!
Interesting that on the first piece, the P125 actually sounded less “electronic” than the P515. It sounded better to me.
I like this type of comparison: When shopping, we often spend just as much time wondering if going one class higher is worth it for our needs than we do comparing similar products. This is the most relevant comparison video you could have made right now for me so thanks again for the great content!
If only cost was not a variable in the equation the choice would be much easier!
James, I got a P125 for myself just from your reviews. All the things you just said on past videos I was able to confirm at an open music store. Thank you so much for being so technical. I'm really enjoying my new piano. I was between it or FP-30, but the FP-30 keys felt a little clumsy at the bottom end (I felt the escapement, but it was so light).
I agree with you on the FP30. It's not as nimble and feels more clunky than the others in its price class.
I did not expect minecraft music but thank you for that
You're welcome!
I liked merging the pieces and it made sound comparing much easier.
Playing your song on both pianos in 1 time was perfect! Because your song repeats some measures and without having to stop our ears, and adjust to a new video, it’s perfect for “side by side” comparison!! Thank you!
Although with my limited skills the 125 would have probably been fine, I am glad I got the515. I love sitting down at it. Thanks for the great review!
Wow, I closed my eyes and put earphones on and listened to you go back and forth between pianos. The P515 sounded like the acoustic piano I played on for a talent show. Definitely brought me back, so I decided on the P515. Thank you!
I really did enjoy the "pop" the P125 gave though. I feel like the P515 can give the best of both worlds between classical and pop with all the customizations though.
The 515 have a more smooth piano sound I must admit. Have a 125, and I am totally satisfied. Its a really-really nice thing, that the 125 doesnt weigh much.
Combining your 2 pieces was utterly brilliant!
Thank you!
ThePianoforever it would be awesome if you make some sheet music available for the combo... I’m sure you’re familiar with some software that will make it pretty for printing. I’ve been using software for writing sheet music for the last 4 months. It’s amazing how simple it is to write music that way. Hearing your music played by software allows you to make sure you didn’t make mistakes in the writing and it gives you a new appreciation for how good humans are at expressing music. I may never be Sir Andras Schiff, but I’m better than software (well at least the software I use lol).
Sheet music for your test piece would be a treat to have for a newbie to the P124 keyboard. The music is so emotional and inspiring it would be a labor of love to work on.. thanks for your exceptional work.. your a true pro...
The fact you played a piece from a game that tugs at the nostalgic parts of my brain using the type of grand piano I like the most just earned you a subscriber
I wouldn't have known abut the P515 without your videos, I'm glad I have made the decision to get the P515. Unfortunately, it seems to be out of stock everywhere!
Thanks so much for posting another brilliant video. It’s rare to find such an in depth comparison of lower and higher priced models by the same manufacturer to help us decide whether it’s really worth the price bump and a worthwhile extra investment. Yes I’d love to see you also do a ‘rival’ comparison of the two Kawais at these price points - especially when you recently rated the P125 and ES110 very closely.
I shall do an ES8 vs. ES110 in the future.
@@ThePianoforever It'll be the same type of situation. ES8 is another league while the ES110 is a wonderful value and fine keyboard. It's just the Kawai version of it.
Great video! I have a P515 on order. My local Yamaha dealer has told me they are having a hard time getting them in from Yamaha becase of the demand for the P515.
It's true. Same for basically all Yamaha digital pianos. Most places are all sold out.
Dennis Stone: You’re not alone. I’m having the same problem. One website hoped to have them back in stock by July; now they’re saying, maybe by the end of summer.🎹🙁
I was also told the ongoing Corona virus situation was creating problems with manufacturing, exporting & importing these instruments.
Same here in Brazil. I've put my Roland piano on sale to buy the P515 but its hard to get a decent price
That Minecraft piece just hits different, especially with that beautiful Bosendorfer sound
Hey, I love love love your reviews! As a new pianist, I want to know what somebody with experience actually LIKES and CARES about - not just a technical description! Based on your reviews, I recently bought a P125 and I jokingly describe my relationship with it as a love affair...
Is it possible to have you post what songs you play in your reviews?
Just discovered your channel. Glad to see these 2 models compared. I currently have a 1926 Steinway Model B that I purchased after a partial rebuild after many years college student abuse. Needs serious voicing and regulation. Occasionally, I will be called upon to play at a venue that is either outdoors or doesn't have a piano. Years ago, I could borrow a P-100 and rent an amp, and that worked well for weddings and receptions.
1. The 515 has MIDI connector; the 125 does not. I "think" you can still connect the 125 to a computer via USB in order to input into a program such as Finale. I will definitely need something that I can interface with Finale.
2. As you addressed, both of these pianos are portable, but the 515 costs 2x as much and weighs about 2x the 125. So it's a matter of which one I'd rather drag around for the rare occasion.
3. Since I will likely be spending a lot of time practicing on this piano - as well as recording, arranging, and gigging - I'm asking for an opinion that likely doesn't have a definite answer. You're certainly more advanced than I, but would you be satisfied if you were confined to practicing and performing on the 125 for an extended period of time, or might you be constantly wishing you had spent 2x the $$ and gotten the 515? - except when you're loading and unloading it into and out of the vehicle. LOL.
Thanks,
Keith Looking forward to exploring more of your videos.
I really appreciate your in-depth comparisons!
Thanks James.. Interesting review! I wonder how P515 vs ES8 would would look like..
Coming in the future!
The P 125 sounds cleaner on the recording than the P515 which sounds smoother and richer but not as defined as the P125 .
Thank you for pumping out these vids!!
Love the videos! I’m a relatively new pianist but your videos keep me encouraged to continue playing and hopefully one day be on your level. Bought a kawai ES110 because of you! Keep the vids coming!
And I’m interested in the metronome!
Thanks for your feedback, it inspires me to continue what I do.
I owned a P-125 for a couple years and played it almost every day. It is an amazing instrument for the price - definitely high value. This video clearly shows the superiority of the 515, but if you're looking for something under $1000 that you can just sit down and play, the 125 won't let you down.
Is the p125 sufficient for develop decent technique? Are the keys "clicking" when they are played?
@@tomschmidt1227 need to know this as well
@@tomschmidt1227 I think its the es110 that feel like its clicked but not p125, did you get the info ? i want to buy 125
Just found your channel a few weeks ago. You're the best piano reviewer on youtube.
The test piece merger was super fun
Thank you for these fair and high quality reviews.
Really loved it.. one of the best reviewer on youtube.
The P125 is nice for the money but the P515's sound, feel, action, versatility is on a higher level. The P125 has less weight in its favor. But the P515 is in a different league.
*The P515 hits a perfect balance between quality and price, in my opinion as a hobbyist.*
I already won my metronome. I'm just waiting to arrive! But good luck to the participants. Very cool video, James.
I have sent it to you, hopefully it doesn't get lost in the mail!
Thanks for this video James! I am looking to get the P125 since it's more for my skill level and price range, but these are both great pianos by Yamaha and I'm glad to see you compared them both :)
+1 for win the tuner 🎹! Thanks James for another great review. I would love see the Roland Juno DS88 review on the channel 😁!
Thank you so much ! I was really hesitating between the 2 ! I would really like to win too !
I think the 515 feels like it has smoother transitions and more richness... still the P125 is pretty ok. Would be fine for live.
Hoping to be able to buy the p515 soon! looks like a wonderful piano
Thanks for the 125 vs 515 review James! Being on a budget and needing a new keyboard I have been on the fence about which to get. Based on this video I now know which I will get. Thanks for the in depth comparison!!
...as a side note, I'm also interested in the giveaway....thanks!
they are both great. obviously the expensive one has better speakers but does sound richer and thicker sounding. You are doing some great videos fella, keep it up.
When you compared the grand piano samples between the P-125 (I own one) and the P-515, I could be wrong, but it sounded more like the P-515 was emulating a GP with the lid down (less bright) and the P-125 with lid up.
Love your reviews. So much information both pro and con. Thanks
This was a great video! I used this to help me decide on my first piano (I play strings usually). Got the p125. My boyfriend ended up buying the p 515 for himself a few months later.
very grateful you take the time and energy to make these videos, you've been a real blessing thank you for all your hard work!!
Nice playing James.I really like the sound of the CFX and the Bosendorfer on the P515, i have one myself and love it.I also like the App and the Bluetooth connection.
No mention of the iOS app comparison capabilities of both. They make using the P125 for instance much easier
Keep doing what you’re doing. Love it.
I like it when you back and fourth between the instruments within in the same song, especially the same phrase. It makes it much easier to identify the differences between the instruments
When you merged the treble and bass test piece it was absolutely gorgeous, you could definitely do that, or keep them separate, either way sounds great
They're in different keys so I wasn't sure how that would work, glad you liked it!
Thanks for the video! I want to save up for the P515, seems like a beast keyboard. Rock on,
I did the same and now i am convinced that is the piano that I want. I´ll never be up of my P-515 and each time love more this sound. I am the eternal learner with a giant piano.
Great review, as always. Please do the P515 vs. ES8 next!
Coming soon!
Treble piece seems to be getting better and better
Simply love your reviews, please keep your health. I previously asked for a more pricier review, the Kawai CA-99 but heck you can skip that, I went and testplayed it. I have bought it and should have it next week. However you should still consider this instrument as a review as it has a proper soundboard despite being an electric piano. So it's not a hybrid per se, placing it on an intereresting level between hybrids (6000-8000 USD) and high end electric pianos (2000-3500USD).
I plan on reviewing those sort of instruments on the channel in the future. I just want to review stage pianos first because I find them to be very valuable and helpful (and more affordable!) I've just ordered a Crumar Seven, and there's still many more I want to review, but console pianos are on the horizon. How do you like the action on your CA99? I tried it briefly at NAMM and didn't notice any major differences between it and the original GF action, even though it uses the GFIII.
This is a great comparison. Thanks. Waiting on the stores to open to try them out. I would like to compare the P-515 escapement with a grand piano. I would use the Korg tuner to test the pitch on my recorder and guitar. When playing a recorder, you have to make sure you are not overblowing or you will be out of tune.
I think you'll find the escapement in the P515 to be nonexistent compared to that of a real piano. It's not that big of an issue IMO, escapement on digital pianos isn't always a bonus.
Fantastic comparison!! That’s how it should be, playing the same piece of music and merging the keyboards really truly does show the differences!!!
I just love the p515 comparisons because it's the one I'm considering ATM.
As an owner of a P515, you won't regret it! Personally, I love the Bösendorfor sample for smooth Classical music and Rock Grand for Journey covers!
I have a 10 year old Kawai digital piano that is getting mighty long in the tooth. The 125 seems good enough for playing in the gymnasium at church. With 500W of stereo amplification it should sound good. The distortion you mentioned on the right speaker scares me a bit. I like the piano better in the Kawai es110, but the rest of the sounds are better to me on the Yamaha.I love your reviews, you demo all the nuances of each piano.
Thank - you for giving an opinion on the P-515. I have considered purchasing one as a gift for my nephew who is interested in learning piano and I am very happy to hear your opinion. (BTW- Consider me interested in the metronome/tuner! I have been a long time subscriber absolutely love your videos and I own multiple instruments of various types so I could make great use of the Korg Metronome/Tuner - yeah that is rather self-serving 😊). Great review. 👍🎵🎼🎼🎶🎹
Congratulations, you won! I am on the road right now so the shipping will be delayed until I return to the studio, which should be in about 30 days. Please reach out to me at the contact page at aloveofmusic.com to send me your info as soon as you want.
P515 is the best I’ve played in its class. It’s much better than I thought it was going to be.
I agree with you, I am impressed at how truly good it is.
The 515 has beautiful note separation where it seemed to have some blurr on the 125 just in that first long piece you played. I think I may just go for a 515.
A nicely informarive video. thanks for this dude.
Love the Minecraft refernce XD. Excellent playing
Glad you enjoyed!
Thanks a lot
I brought P-125
In Egypt we don't have P-515
I'm looking forward to give it a test. I had a try at the CP88 today and I must say I was quite impressed by it. I was contemplating the idea of an MP11SE for a while. But after looking all your videos on those two pianos and the P515. I think the P515 would be the best one for me to complement my acoustic. Your videos have been very helpful to me confirming my own finding on various keyboards I was trying (like the nord the various casio etc...)
Hello James, thanks again for another wonderful work.
I think would be very interesting to compare the old action by casio, responsive hammer tri-sensor 2 ( for example px560) with the new action of the px s series.
Best regards
Wonderful reviews, very inspiring and educational.
11:50 May be i'm so strange, but i think, in this moment P-125 is much impressive sound, much different between keys. P-515 is so soaps sounds and sound between key is so smooth.
Both nice pianos. The 515 is really rich in sound.
I realized right away the bass was much weaker on P125 and the sound overall was more bland. It's not a bad sound but it just doesn't have the depth.
That's fantastic comparisons; thanks a lot, James! I have got an acoustic piano already, but I need a digital one to work with some apps, music software (Logic Pro, GarageBand etc.) or gig in bands. Will P125 be the better choice?
P125 sounds actually better to me, high mids are not that dominant. But that might be just my ears.
Great review! Thanx! Wish there was a review of the cp4 vs 515.
Awesome video
Good playing
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05:36 ... merged test pieces. Directly and alternately comparing default patch on both.
Very nice, eh. VERY. 👍🏼
For a beginner, would you say we’ll be able to notice the quality of the action in the P125? How long have you had yours? I’m hearing mixed reviews that the P125 action is fairly lacking and that the keys get noisy after a few months. Don’t know if non pianists would mind or notice? I really want to purchase the P125 and your reviews have helped!
I am a "beginner" (picking up piano after decades of not playing) and I bought the P125.
I have honestly just fallen in love with this instrument! Beautiful, clear, clean, and neatly fits under the TV in my apartment - it's as if it didn't take any room at all. I play it for probably at least an hour a day.... And it just sounds wonderful!
I would recommend to get the wooden case and the 3-play pedals - that makes it act and feel like a "real piano".
No matter what you buy, there will be differences. My standard is that it HAS to feel like a true "instrument". Just today, I played a Casio 160 digital piano, which is a fairly well rated "beginner" piano and was startled - it just didn't feel like a "true instrument" to me. No surprises, the owner had "upgraded" to a "real piano" and if I had that, I would be tempted to do the same.
The P-515 seems to be sold out everywhere, especially if you’re looking for a “bundle” package.
One well-known website expected to have them back in stock by July 2020. Now (June 16, 2020) they’re hoping for late September.
I guess I’ll just have to wait .🙁🎹
Great comparison!
Just a question though. Is the touch / action same on both of them??
I'd actually be very keen to hear the difference in sound that something like a Hybrid Grand (Yamaha N3X) would make in comparison to something like the Yamaha C3X - would you be able to play a few pieces and see if a digital hybrid comes close to reproducing the expressiveness out of an acoustic?
Why not start with the p515 if you can afford it, the keybed is so much better and realistic? If someone can afford and says he is really dedicated to learn piano, and the want a slab model, i do advice them either a P515 or if locally available a kawai MP11
Many thanks! As always, this is a fantastic review! May I ask you a question: We are currently using a Yamaha P85 in our studio. I have two bands and we only play for fun at my home. We also have a Korg keyboard for all sounds other than the piano sound. Would the P125 would be a small, medium or huge improvement? The P85 is connected to an amp with two big BOSE speakers. We are playing old rock, rock, pop and some country songs. Thanks in advance for the answer! Keep up the very good work...
Hi James, can you review Roland JUNO DS 88 vs Yamaha MX 88. This is a middle class digital piano. Thank you for all your great videos review. Super informative.
The more affordable P125 won't let you down - so if you are on a budget or just not willing to spend too much for a hobby, just go with it! ;)
funny thing is i own the p515, but i'm contemplating the p125, because of its light weight body, and i kind of think the sound is little better. smh
I don't need the tuner but I do need that piano.
I think this finally sold the P125 for me. While I will use it with midi sample libraries most of the time, the sounds are good and fun enough for me whenever I don't want to bother with my DAW.
Thank you!
piano sound 2 on the p125 is the Live! Grand
Nice review! I hope your staying safe! Do you think the Fender Rhodes on the P-125 is better than the P-515? To my ears, I thought so. I actually liked the P-125 DX-7 sample a lot better!
Both the Rhodes sounds are pretty good in my opinion. And I agree with you on the DX-7 sound haha.
ThePianoforever Alright! Well, stay safe and keep up these awesome videos!
I am considering buying either the DGX 670 or the P 515. I am 74 and never played piano before but have always wanted to learn. Especially since my father was a very accomplished player. I am in love with the Bosendorfer sound in the P 515. Unfortunately it is not available in the DGX 670. Am I being too selective and critical especially for someone who is very new to the piano? Also I have taken to heart your discussions of the touch on the 515 because of the wooden keys and the design which is a step up from the DGX 670. I would also like to know if you recommend any particular online lesson study course. I would lean and little more towards classical bt with a desire to be able to play some Frank Sinatra etc. Thanks for your help. Also look forward to any comments from others. Thanks all
If you have the extra money the P515 is a excellent choice. The quality of the sound is fantastic.
Would also be nice to get a side by side comparison of a digital piano and an acoustic piano, if you already haven't made one. I know it's a bit harder to fit them so it's easy to switch back and forth but still hehe.
I've done a few videos like that on the channel, if I remember correctly there is one with the CP88, the Nord Stage 3, and the RD2000 vs. a real acoustic piano.
This was a fun one
Hey, James. I'm curious to know if the in-person experience is the same as it comes through over the video. You can tell the difference in audio quality between the 515 and the 125, but the contrast is not stark, by any means. The 515 does sound a little deeper and richer, but through the video it is very subtle and you have to listen closely to catch it. Is that the same experience in person? Or is it as subtle in person as it is through the video?
Also, if you happen to know the piece, I'd love for you to play Mariage d'Amore in one of these review or comparison videos.
Hey Chris! Listening to these sort of videos on decent headphones or speakers is paramount, laptop or phone speakers make everything sound poor. I thought the sound difference in the video was pretty noticeable but it's definitely much more noticable in person. The P515 has huge speakers that are way louder and higher quality than the P125, and you can hear the quality difference immediately.
Minecraft music?! My girls used to play the game constantly. I recognised it straightaway Lol!
@@ThePianoforever Yeah, I was using headphones, but my good pair of headphones don't have USB connections for my computer. I could still hear the difference, but your point is probably on point. If I had higher quality headphones for my computer, it may have been more apparent.
I have a p-125 and am seriously considering grabbing the 515...problem is I'm also interested in the ES-8 and CA 48. I can't wait for the ES-8 Vs p515 comparison vid. The only thing holding me back on buying the 515 is that the action on the 125 is kinda bad and I'm not sure if the 515 is gonna be much better.